From sacadmin Fri Dec 15 17:49:43 2006 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBG1ng04026945 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBG1nfeF003469 for <@sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:49:41 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JAC00C03FQS9K00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JAC00KOCFQS4U70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBG1ncrw013500; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBG1nb2w073114; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:37 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 To: Firmware Arch , Tarl Neustaedter , Gaopeng Chen - Sun China Message-id: <458350B1.8000907@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) Status: RO Content-Length: 473 I'm sponsoring this fast track for Tarl. This case is a binding update to the USB bus bindings. It adds Interface Association descriptors to the bus bindings as a template for the device tree. The materials are in the inception.materials directory, and include a summary of changes, the old and new bindings and a diff of the old and new bindings and an interface table. The case requests minor/micro/patch OS binding and minor/micro binding for the firmware. -David From sacadmin Mon Dec 18 18:54:00 2006 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBJ2rxTd023051 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ2roOH004171 for <@sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:53:58 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 (built Dec 2 2004)) id <0JAI00E022PX0W00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com ([10.4.134.5]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 (built Dec 2 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JAI008M22PWAM80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.39.120]) by nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBJ2rudk022338 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-10.sun.com by d1-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JAI003012KLJZ00@d1-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Hitendra.Zhangada@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.153.85.36] by d1-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JAI00DYU2PWNS6O@d1-sfbay-10.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:55 -0800 From: Hitendra Zhangada Subject: Re: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 In-reply-to: <458350B1.8000907@sun.com> Sender: Hitendra.Zhangada@sun.com To: Firmware Arch Cc: Tarl Neustaedter , Gaopeng Chen - Sun China Message-id: <45875443.5090308@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <458350B1.8000907@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20060120 Status: RO Content-Length: 2149 David Kahn wrote On 12/15/06 17:49,: > > I'm sponsoring this fast track for Tarl. > > This case is a binding update to the USB bus bindings. > It adds Interface Association descriptors to the bus > bindings as a template for the device tree. > > The materials are in the inception.materials directory, > and include a summary of changes, the old and new bindings > and a diff of the old and new bindings and an > interface table. 1. Can we change the interface table to add header for both imported and exported interfaces? I generally use, ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Description ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Change Comnitted -> Committed for "name" property. 3. Is there an ARC case which covers the old USB bindings? If so then please add that to the "Description" column. I have a feeling that this is the first time USB bindings are submitted to ARC. In this case can we use this current case to establish the OFWG USB Bus bindings as a baseline and also amend it at the same time? In past we have recommended that base line bindings be established before they can be changed. I am not asking for another case for it but what I am suggesting is that we establish baseline at the same time we are amending it. What this would mean is that the imported interface will move to exported interface table as both old and new bindings are exported by this case with classification of "Committed" for both. Since old binding is not obsoleted, I think we can do that here. Thanks a lot for the summary, diffs files, etc. That really helps to understand the differences. Thanks. > > The case requests minor/micro/patch OS binding > and minor/micro binding for the firmware. > > -David > -- Hitendra Zhangada ============================================= SPS Common SW Features Engineering Systems Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Work Ph# (858) 625 3757, Ext. x53757 SUN Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu From sacadmin Mon Dec 18 19:21:18 2006 Received: from sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.17]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBJ3LHER023799 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3LH319210 for <@sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:21:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JAI004053ZHQT00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JAI007OS3ZGHMD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (dt101-150.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.101.150]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3LESf018152; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBJ3LDGi020627; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:27 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: Re: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 To: Hitendra Zhangada Cc: Firmware Arch , Tarl Neustaedter , Gaopeng Chen - Sun China Message-id: <45875AB7.1040401@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) Status: RO Content-Length: 1421 I reformatted and updated the interface table as suggested including fixing that typo. The file is under SCCS in the same directory. Hitendra Zhangada wrote: > > 3. Is there an ARC case which covers the old USB bindings? If so > then please add that to the "Description" column. I have a feeling > that this is the first time USB bindings are submitted to ARC. > In this case can we use this current case to establish the OFWG USB > Bus bindings as a baseline and also amend it at the same time? > > In past we have recommended that base line bindings be established > before they can be changed. I am not asking for another case for > it but what I am suggesting is that we establish baseline at the same > time we are amending it. What this would mean is that the imported > interface will move to exported interface table as both old and > new bindings are exported by this case with classification of > "Committed" for both. Since old binding is not obsoleted, I think > we can do that here. I couldn't find a case for the original USB bindings, so we can say that this case accepts the USB binding as published by the OFWG and possibly modified by other ARC cases as a baseline (uncommitted) and that this case creates a new baseline USB bus binding. It should be sufficient to state that here, since this is being logged in the case mail file. -David From sacadmin Mon Dec 18 19:37:44 2006 Received: from sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.17]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBJ3biN0024195 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3bi327806 for <@sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:37:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 (built Dec 2 2004)) id <0JAI00M0O4QUQT00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-prc-02.singapore.sun.com ([129.158.71.110]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 (built Dec 2 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JAI0089U4QQADB0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from highroc.PRC.Sun.COM (highroc.PRC.Sun.COM [129.158.215.199]) by dm-prc-02.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3bYlj005459; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:37:35 +0800 (SGT) Received: from highroc.PRC.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by highroc.PRC.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBJ3Zme6003793; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:35:49 +0800 (CST) Received: (from gc161489@localhost) by highroc.PRC.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id kBJ3Zmdm003792; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:35:48 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:35:47 +0800 From: Gaopeng Chen - Sun China Subject: Re: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 In-reply-to: <45875443.5090308@Sun.COM> To: Hitendra Zhangada Cc: Firmware Arch , Tarl Neustaedter Reply-to: Gaopeng.Chen@sun.com Message-id: <1166499347.18198.497.camel@highroc> Organization: SUN MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <458350B1.8000907@sun.com> <45875443.5090308@Sun.COM> X-Authentication-warning: highroc.PRC.Sun.COM: gc161489 set sender to Gaopeng.Chen@sun.com using -f Status: RO Content-Length: 1683 > > 3. Is there an ARC case which covers the old USB bindings? If so > then please add that to the "Description" column. I have a feeling > that this is the first time USB bindings are submitted to ARC. > In this case can we use this current case to establish the OFWG USB > Bus bindings as a baseline and also amend it at the same time? The old USB bindings is covered in PSARC/1998/111. This usb binding is updated from that old one. Maybe we should point it out somewhere. Thanks. http://sac.sfbay/PSARC/1998/111/incept.materials/ > > In past we have recommended that base line bindings be established > before they can be changed. I am not asking for another case for > it but what I am suggesting is that we establish baseline at the same > time we are amending it. What this would mean is that the imported > interface will move to exported interface table as both old and > new bindings are exported by this case with classification of > "Committed" for both. Since old binding is not obsoleted, I think > we can do that here. > > Thanks a lot for the summary, diffs files, etc. That really helps > to understand the differences. > > > Thanks. > > > > > The case requests minor/micro/patch OS binding > > and minor/micro binding for the firmware. > > > > -David > > > > -- > Hitendra Zhangada > ============================================= > SPS Common SW Features Engineering > Systems Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. > Work Ph# (858) 625 3757, Ext. x53757 > SUN Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu -- Best Regards, GaoPeng Chen Call: +86-10-62673005 Ext: x82005 Sun Microsystem Inc. China From sacadmin Mon Dec 18 19:46:47 2006 Received: from sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.17]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBJ3klxU024244 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3kk302984 for <@sunmail1brm.central.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JAI00B0555XY400@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:46:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JAI0034855WTW60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kBJ3kged020494; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBJ3kfBv021798; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:46:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:46:56 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: Re: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 To: Gaopeng Chen - Sun China Cc: Hitendra Zhangada , Firmware Arch , Tarl Neustaedter Message-id: <458760B0.7050507@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) Status: RO Content-Length: 297 Gaopeng Chen - Sun China wrote: > The old USB bindings is covered in PSARC/1998/111. This usb binding is > updated from that old one. Maybe we should point it out somewhere. > Thanks. > http://sac.sfbay/PSARC/1998/111/incept.materials/ Thanks .. I'll add that to the interface table. -David From sacadmin Mon Jan 22 10:38:19 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0MIcICv023656 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l0MIbnPe004055; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:38:12 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JCA00A0993LHT00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM ([10.6.92.101]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JCA00DOD93L7590@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l0MIbmD0020101; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmk@localhost) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0/Submit) id l0MIbmAY020100; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:37:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: David Kahn Subject: Re: FWARC/2006/671 - USB Binding update for IA - fast track timeout 12/22/2006 To: David.Kahn@sun.com, Gaopeng.Chen@sun.com, Tarl.Neustaedter@sun.com, fwarc@sun.com Message-id: <200701221837.l0MIbmAY020100@noho.SFBay.Sun.COM> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 Status: RO Content-Length: 48 For the record, this case is approved. -David