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From sacadmin Thu Jan 10 16:31:12 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0B0VBSa016412 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0B0V4sT008404 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:31:10 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUG00A0HERVME00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:31:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUG0000TERUO9A0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:31:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0B0V6qX013344 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JUG00F01ECN1W00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:31:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.154.98] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JUG00G9VERINEC0@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:30:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:30:54 -0800 From: Aarti Pai Subject: Inception Materials for FWARC/2008/013 SAS Address Sender: Aarti.Pai@sun.com To: fwarc@sun.com Cc: Conrad Turlik Reply-to: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Message-id: <4786B8BE.5030106@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ORxa7x2osmJAVOrK0LT5cQ)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070802) Status: RO Content-Length: 1388 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ORxa7x2osmJAVOrK0LT5cQ) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT sac% pwd /shared/sac/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013 sac% ls -l inception.materials total 65 -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sac 3521 Jan 10 16:25 interfaces-sas.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sac 4100 Jan 10 16:25 onepager-SAS.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sac 23011 Jan 10 16:25 sas-bindings.txt Aarti --Boundary_(ID_ORxa7x2osmJAVOrK0LT5cQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT sac% pwd
/shared/sac/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013
sac% ls -l inception.materials
total 65
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sac         3521 Jan 10 16:25 interfaces-sas.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sac         4100 Jan 10 16:25 onepager-SAS.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sac        23011 Jan 10 16:25 sas-bindings.txt

Aarti
--Boundary_(ID_ORxa7x2osmJAVOrK0LT5cQ)-- From sacadmin Thu Jan 10 17:34:45 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0B1Yi9C018599 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0B1YaXZ002486 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:34:43 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUG00903HPUUC00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUG00M8YHPU9350@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0B1Ygti039087 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0B1YfrU030478 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:40 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: owner/intern needed for 2008/013 - scsi/sas binding To: Firmware ARC Message-id: <4786C7B0.7060203@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 26 Any volunteers? -David From sacadmin Thu Jan 10 17:46:32 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0B1kVui018695 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0B1kTBD007160 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:30 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUG00G03I9GU900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUG0007GI9GO4F0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0B1kSZN001104 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JUG00F01I7QRX00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Hitendra.Zhangada@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.153.85.35] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JUG00ITBI9F0CF0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:27 -0800 From: Hitendra Zhangada Subject: Re: owner/intern needed for 2008/013 - scsi/sas binding In-reply-to: <4786C7B0.7060203@sun.com> Sender: Hitendra.Zhangada@sun.com To: Firmware ARC Message-id: <4786CA73.6010208@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4786C7B0.7060203@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12pre (X11/20071231) Status: RO Content-Length: 397 David Kahn wrote: > > Any volunteers? > > -David > I was going to help Conrad but I will be on vacation from Jan 17th till Feb 4th. He is trying to get Sunit to own the case. -- Hitendra Zhangada ==================================== SPS Common SW Features Engineering Software Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sun Ph# (858) 625 3757, Sun Ext. x53757 Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu From sacadmin Thu Jan 10 20:38:29 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0B4cTOA020301 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0B4cTd2014615 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUG00801Q825500@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUG007A7Q82P110@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0B4cQtp014580 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:38:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JUG00G01Q3VN700@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from S.Jain@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.127] ([68.123.180.122]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JUG00ATXQ81FUC0@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:39:28 -0800 From: Sunit Jain Subject: Re: owner/intern needed for 2008/013 - scsi/sas binding In-reply-to: <4786CA73.6010208@Sun.COM> Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Firmware ARC Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <4786F300.80609@Sun.Com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4786C7B0.7060203@sun.com> <4786CA73.6010208@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 269 Yes, I can own this case. Regards, Sunit Hitendra Zhangada wrote: > David Kahn wrote: >> >> Any volunteers? >> >> -David >> > > > I was going to help Conrad but I will be on vacation > from Jan 17th till Feb 4th. He is trying to get Sunit > to own the case. > > > From sacadmin Thu Jan 17 16:23:03 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0I0N3pr014921 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0I0N1rZ012872 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUT00K0RD2EBP00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUT000UYD2E5R80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0I0N1JB025702 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:23:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JUT00I01CYUYA00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Eduardo.Horvath@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.146.96.43] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JUT0079CD2C8C50@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:23:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:00 -0800 From: Eduardo E Horvath Subject: Re: SAS drivers FWARC/2008/013 In-reply-to: <478FE480.2070907@sun.com> Sender: Eduardo.Horvath@sun.com To: David Kahn Cc: Chris Horne , David Hollister , Conrad Turlik , Firmware Arch Message-id: <478FF164.70607@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <478E87C7.9060809@sun.com> <478E95E0.2030100@sun.com> <478EDDE2.7030706@sun.com> <478F8252.3060609@sun.com> <478FB51F.4010503@sun.com> <478FBEAD.8010304@sun.com> <478FCE03.6040201@sun.com> <478FE480.2070907@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12pre (X11/20080116) Status: RO Content-Length: 3328 David Kahn wrote: > > > Chris Horne wrote: > >> In a complex, multi-level SAS-expander config with subtractive >> (default-route) routing between SAS-expanders (think genesis), >> constructing >> an initiator-port to routing table is a complex >> task involving sophisticated use of the SMP protocol. >> >> Given a , if you don't know the initiator port >> on which you expect to find a device (from the port-node unit-address), >> you would need to either: >> >> o perform the complex routing table construction before you can >> access the >> >> ...how long will it take to form the routing table with an >> HBA that connects to lots of physical SAS domains. >> >> o or send the request down *all* initiator ports, and find one >> that 'works' >> >> Without an port-node to provide persistence of a specific >> path in it's unit-address, which method are you recommending? > > You tell me Chris. I would rather leave that to the > implementation to figure out. > > How complex will real fabrics be? Even though in theory > a pci express fabric could be up to 255 levels deep, we > know that in real life we'll never see anything that deep. > > If we have to allow for an optional port# to be specified > as part of the path, we could do something like: > > disk@[,]w[,] > > If we have to, I suppose. We don't need a node for the port > to be able to specify a port#. Or it could be an optional > argument, as disk@<...>:port=2. We already use an option to > indicate the partition number. In a meeting we recently had about a future driver for a PMC SAS HBA some of these issues were discussed. My take on this issue is as follows, and it goes way back to the Leadville days: The original Sun FCAL HBAs (soc+) only handled the fibre-channel protocol. FC encapsulation of SCSI packets was handled in the sf driver. This forced us to expose the port in the device tree. The Leadville stack was designed around this feature as a way to handle multiple protocols, such as TCP/IP over FCAL. When we started to see devices like the ones from QLogic which are really native SCSI controllers that happen to use FCAL as a transport layer, a lot of work went into exposing the FCAL ports so the devices could fit into the Leadville stack. For SAS, we have 3 protocols that we might want to support: SSP for SCSI packets STP for SATA/IDE packets SMP for management packets Now STP has generally been deprecated in favor of the SAT protocol which uses SSP. Most SAS HBAs handle SSP and STP natively, so the only packets we're really concerned about are SMP ones to discover fabrics, etc. Those HBAs hide most of the details of the fabric topology from the driver, and extracting this information is difficult. In future, we may see devices that only transport native SAS packets, rather than taking SCSI packets and encapsulating them within SAS packets. In that case it may be necessary to do SCSI to SAS encapsulation in firmware, as well as fabric discovery, etc. That would be a good justification for exposing the SAS initiator port in the OBP tree. But I think we shouldn't do this for HBAs with firmware that handles the SCSI encapsulation itself. -- Eduardo Horvath From sacadmin Thu Jan 17 16:28:59 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0I0SwBY014999 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0I0SwH1020571 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:28:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUT00601DCAH500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUT00L7DDC9P390@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0I0SvRk048287; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0I0SuVb095795; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:28:56 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: Re: SAS drivers FWARC/2008/013 In-reply-to: <478FF164.70607@sun.com> To: Eduardo E Horvath Cc: Chris Horne , David Hollister , Conrad Turlik , Firmware Arch Message-id: <478FF2C8.4000000@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <478E87C7.9060809@sun.com> <478E95E0.2030100@sun.com> <478EDDE2.7030706@sun.com> <478F8252.3060609@sun.com> <478FB51F.4010503@sun.com> <478FBEAD.8010304@sun.com> <478FCE03.6040201@sun.com> <478FE480.2070907@sun.com> <478FF164.70607@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 764 As far as fc/leadville is concerned, we didn't want the fp node either, but we made a concession to the leadville folks. It's not there because we need the node. Leadville needed to have the node, and it was already far along in development. Making them change it would have affected their product schedules. I was part of that decision, and I've always regretted it. It was really the only way out at the time. So that's enough of the history lesson, but it explains why we allowed the fp node at the time. (I think it also had to do with being able to layer different protocols on top of fc.) We don't have that issue with this stuff. If we need to expose the port# or phy# or whatever, we can do that without an extra device node, if we have to. -David From sacadmin Fri Jan 18 16:46:32 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0J0kWHC012360 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0J0kUUb019620 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUV0030J8TIJA00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUV00NRD8TI2I00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0J0kUkf021602 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:46:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JUV003018RC1E00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from S.Jain@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.150.16.246] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JUV00CSR8TH8ID0@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:46:27 -0800 From: Sunit Jain Subject: FWARC/2008/013 - SCSI SAS bindings - material updated Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Firmware Arch Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <47914863.9070104@Sun.Com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12pre (Windows/20080117) Status: RO Content-Length: 404 Materials for FWARC/2008/013 "SCSI SAS bindings" have been copied to the case directory. http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/inception.materials/ fwarc-20q.txt 20 Questions onepager-SAS.txt 1-pager sas-bindings.txt SCSI SAS bindings interfaces-sas.txt Interface table Case is scheduled for an inception review on January 28th 2008. Thanks, Sunit From sacadmin Fri Jan 18 19:21:31 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0J3LUOY019305 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0J3LRgf006608 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:21:29 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JUV00G09FZRU600@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:21:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JUV00NPVFZR2D60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:21:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0J3LQUS023860; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0J3LQUL029652; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:21:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:21:26 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: Re: FWARC/2008/013 - dmk's issues To: Sunit Jain Cc: Firmware Arch Message-id: <47916CB6.4040001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 1705 This is for the inception review. 1. Need more info on the synthetic address format for sata devices. (How is it constructed, why is it guaranteed to be unique?) 2. I still don't understand the PP,lun form of the unit address. - How does the phy + lun uniquely identify a target? Shouldn't it be PP,w[,lun] ? - I'm not sure that the phy# makes sense in the unit address. When I read the sas spec, it said that sw can assign phys to ports in different ways and the same phy can be used with one or more ports. Doesn't the logical port number make more sense from both a connectivity point of view and a user-friendly point of view? In either case, if the admin changes the configuration of the port, the pathnames can change. Either way is not particularly friendly since there doesn't seem to be a way to label port numbers on the connector. 3. Is there a transition plan for existing sas firmware and OS drivers? Are we actually going to change the way that existing sas devices already in the field report themselves and create problems for the user and the OS in this case? This needs to be considered and covered. For plug-in devices, I would imagine that they would continue to behave as they do today, unless the admin decides to upgrade the firmware on the plug-in card. For on-board devices, we probably need to make sure that we're not just arbitrarily changing the behavior of existing devices unless the admin decides that they want to do that since the device pathnames and drivers will change. How will the project manage this? -David From sacadmin Wed Jan 30 13:43:29 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0ULhSfU020823 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m0ULhNNV023727; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:43:27 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVH00E018CE3900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:43:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVH007ST8CDOG90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:43:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m0ULhPqn020047; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:43:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVH00H017GMJU00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM) ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:43:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.150.34.58] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVH002GN8C3CM50@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:43:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:14 -0800 From: Aarti Pai Subject: FWARC Agenda -02/04/2008 : Inception: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding (2008/013) Sender: Aarti.Pai@sun.com To: fwarc@sun.com Cc: Sunit.Jain@sun.com, Narayan.Venkat@sun.com, Conrad.Turlik@sun.com Message-id: <47A0EF72.2050307@Sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12pre (Windows/20080128) Status: RO Content-Length: 1083 Firmware Architecture Review Committee FWARC meets on Mondays (as needed): West Coast: 11:00am-1:00pm PST East Coast: 2:00pm-4:00pm EST Case submitters are asked to show up at least 15 minutes before the scheduled start time. All FWARC meetings are open: anyone from Engineering may attend (unless otherwise noted). TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: Dial in - 1-866-839-8145 (Within US) - 1-865-524-6352 (International Access) - x26041 (direct-dial inside Sun) Participant Code: 4694463# Host Code: 3403# AT&T Operator: 1-800-526-2655 FWARC meetings may be recorded. ========================================================================= ARCHITECTURE REVIEW SCHEDULE: 02/04/2008 ---------- 11:00-11:10 project issue id 11:10-12:10 Inception: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding (2008/013) Submitter: conrad.turlik@sun.com Owner: Sunit Jain Intern: Narayan Venkat Exposure: closed From sacadmin Mon Feb 4 11:01:26 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14J1QsZ016906 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m14J1Lde010177; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVQ0038JA6DR100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVQ00KAIA6AJB90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m14J1MK6012517; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVQ00E019NLX700@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Hitendra.Zhangada@Sun.COM); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.37.167] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVQ00IK8A5ZXV50@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:03:02 -0800 From: Hitendra Zhangada Subject: Re: FWARC Agenda -02/04/2008 : Inception: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding (2008/013) In-reply-to: <47A0EF72.2050307@Sun.com> Sender: Hitendra.Zhangada@sun.com To: Aarti Pai Cc: fwarc@sun.com, Sunit.Jain@sun.com, Narayan.Venkat@sun.com, Conrad.Turlik@sun.com Message-id: <47A76166.7040508@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47A0EF72.2050307@Sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 1469 Aarti Pai wrote: > Firmware Architecture Review Committee > FWARC meets on Mondays (as needed): > West Coast: 11:00am-1:00pm PST > East Coast: 2:00pm-4:00pm EST > > Case submitters are asked to show up at least 15 minutes before the > scheduled start time. > > All FWARC meetings are open: anyone from Engineering may attend > (unless otherwise noted). > TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: > Dial in - 1-866-839-8145 (Within US) > - 1-865-524-6352 (International Access) > - x26041 (direct-dial inside Sun) > > Participant Code: 4694463# > Host Code: 3403# The code does not work. What's the correct code? > > AT&T Operator: 1-800-526-2655 > > FWARC meetings may be recorded. > > ========================================================================= > ARCHITECTURE REVIEW SCHEDULE: > > 02/04/2008 > ---------- > 11:00-11:10 project issue id > 11:10-12:10 Inception: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding (2008/013) > Submitter: conrad.turlik@sun.com > Owner: Sunit Jain > Intern: Narayan Venkat > Exposure: closed > > -- Hitendra Zhangada ============================================= SPS Common SW Features Engineering Software Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Work Ph# (858) 625 3757, Ext. x53757 SUN Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu From sacadmin Mon Feb 4 11:04:38 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14J4bSf017668 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m14J4Wsg027308; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:04:34 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVQ00M0FABLIE00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:04:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVQ006Y2ABKTSC0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:04:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m14J4VbK052024; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14J4UDk066271; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:04:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:04:30 -0800 From: David Kahn Subject: Re: FWARC Agenda -02/04/2008 : Inception: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding (2008/013) To: Aarti Pai , fwarc@sun.com Cc: Sunit.Jain@sun.com, Narayan.Venkat@sun.com, Conrad.Turlik@sun.com Message-id: <47A761BE.9070503@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 423 There appears to be a problem with this number, so let's use my conf number instead for today. Dial in Number: 866-545-5198 865-521-8904 Access Code: 9014159 Aarti Pai wrote: > TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: > Dial in - 1-866-839-8145 (Within US) > - 1-865-524-6352 (International Access) > - x26041 (direct-dial inside Sun) > > Participant Code: 4694463# > Host Code: 3403# From sacadmin Tue Feb 5 13:50:23 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15LoMmV011199 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m15LoJKE008177 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:50:21 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVS00201CNW4800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:50:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVS007XRCNVSY60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:50:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m15LoJP3011006 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVS00K01C0CDB00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:50:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.154.54] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVS00HYPCNMXK90@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:50:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:50:10 -0800 From: Aarti Pai Subject: Meeting Minutes for FWARC - 02/04/2008 - [2008/013] Sender: Aarti.Pai@sun.com To: fwarc@sun.com Cc: Eduardo Horvath , Conrad Turlik Reply-to: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Message-id: <47A8DA12.7050306@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070802) Status: RO Content-Length: 471 Minutes/Audio for FWARC meeting - 02/04/2008 are now available: - Arc Business: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/FWARC/2008/20080204.arcbiz Audio: None - Inception Case SAS Address (2008/013): http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/FWARC/2008/20080204.2008.013.inception Audio: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/FWARC/2008/20080204.2008.013.inception.mp3 Please contact me directly if you require any corrections/modifications to these minutes. Aarti From sacadmin Tue Aug 19 09:46:05 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7JGk5tQ015464 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m7JGjvtA011799 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc-members@sun.com>; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K5U00J0NX8RGM00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc-members@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc-members@sun.com); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:46:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K5U006HQX8OZ8E0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc-members@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc-members@sun.com); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m7JGk0bX010002 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K5U00E01WN6ZC00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from S.Jain@Sun.COM) for fwarc-members@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc-members@sun.com); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.145.154.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K5U00MX6X8LLG30@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc-members@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc-members@sun.com); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:45:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:45:57 -0700 From: Sunit Jain Subject: FWARC/2008/013 - SAS bindings Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Cc: fwarc-members@sun.com, Conrad Turlik , Eduardo E Horvath - Sun Microsystems - Newark United States , John.Plocher@sun.com, Narayan Vankat Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <48AAF8C5.8040901@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fmMPms6msBtH8K+p65BVXQ)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080228) Status: RO Content-Length: 8774 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fmMPms6msBtH8K+p65BVXQ) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Aarti, Project team wants to come back for a commitment review for FWARC/2008/013. Could you please schedule a review for August 25th? Case materials are at: Updated SAS bindings: http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/sas-bindings.txt Updated Interface table: http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/interfaces-sas.txt Updated issue list: http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/issues Original issue list is at: http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/issues Thanks, Sunit -- *Sunit Jain* Common Software Engineering *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* 14 Network Circle, Mailstop UMPK14-205, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Phone/Fax 510-996-7099 Internal x31726 Email S.Jain@Sun.Com --Boundary_(ID_fmMPms6msBtH8K+p65BVXQ) Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6LmoNp8JUnxL1t2JDS4xGQ)" --Boundary_(ID_6LmoNp8JUnxL1t2JDS4xGQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Aarti,

Project team wants to come back for a commitment review for FWARC/2008/013. Could you please schedule
a review for August 25th?

Case materials are at:

Updated SAS bindings:
    http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/sas-bindings.txt
Updated Interface table:
    http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/interfaces-sas.txt
Updated issue list:
    http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment.materials/issues
Original issue list is at:
    http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/issues

Thanks,
Sunit

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Sun Microsystems, Inc.
14 Network Circle,
Mailstop UMPK14-205,
Menlo Park, CA 94025
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Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:27:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K6500401UJND200@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Chris.Horne@Sun.COM) for FWARC@sun.com (ORCPT FWARC@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.50] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K65001RQXLMLU10@mail-amer.sun.com> for FWARC@sun.com (ORCPT FWARC@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:25:16 -0600 From: Chris Horne Subject: Re: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding [FWARC/2008/013] In-reply-to: <48B1C8B1.6020601@sun.com> Sender: Chris.Horne@sun.com To: FWARC@sun.com Message-id: <48B2CEDC.8050401@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <48B1C8B1.6020601@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061204) Status: RO Content-Length: 3709 Correcting case number in subject line (was 2008/077) > I have two subjects I want to comment on relative to FWARC 2008/013. > > The purpose of these comments is to acknowledge an 'iport' divergence > between OBP and Solaris regarding device paths, and to bring up > unpopular unit-address compatibility issues surrounding SAS1.0 and > SAS2.0. > > A: 'iport' divergence: > > As part of support for SAS2.0, Solaris will be representing SCSI > initiator ports in /devices paths. The FWARC 2008/013 case does not > include 'iport' nodes. Solaris and OBP have agreed to diverge on > 'iport' representation in paths. For Solaris, an API will be > provided that allows SAS HBA drivers to dynamically manage the > formation of SCSI initiator ports on the SAS transport. > > o Solaris code that needs to convert a /devices path to an OBP > path will use the new 'obp-path' Solaris property being added > to fix 6616427. > > o For NDI_PROMNAME paths, the Solaris resolve_pathname() > implementation will need to be enhanced to resolve paths from > OBP that don't contain initiator port path components. > > B: compatibility issue: SAS1.0.vs.SAS2.0 > > o generic name: > > I think "sas" is a more appropriate generic name than "scsi" > for "sas" HBAs. Given that HBAs covered by 2008/013 will > connect to both SAS devices (using SCSI protocol) and SATA > devices (using ATA protocol), I think that using "scsi" as the > generic name is unnecessarily confusing. > > o SATA unit-address issue: > > This has been the most contentious aspect of 2008/013. I know > we thought we had put this issue to bed, but I have a few > points I want to make. > > * During meetings discussing this topic, it was my > understanding that the @PP form of unit address was *not* to > be considered a canonical unit-address format. In subsequent > communication with the project team, it seems they have > chosen to make @PP canonical. > > * During meetings discussing this topic, there was a desire to > select a unit-address based on device-identity, but we ended > up compromising for SATA devices because of 'affiliations'. > > o We failed to recognize during these discussions that > 'affiliations' are an expander issue, and don't pose a > problem in choosing a identity-oriented unit-address for > SATA devices directly connected to an HBA (specifically, > an identity-oriented unit-address that uses the same > algorithm that SAS2.0 defines for the 'device-name' of a > SATA device) . > > o We failed to fully recognize during these discussions > that SAS2.0 avoids affiliation issues by its definition > of 'device-name' for SATA devices and communication of > 'device-name' as an integral part of SAS discovery. The > device name for SATA devices is described in section > 4.2.7 of the SAS-2 draft spec (T10-1760D), revision 14c > and is based on bytes 108-111 of ATA IDENTIFY-DEVICE data. > > I am revisiting this topic because I think that replacing a SAS1.0 > HBA with a SAS2.0 HBA without breaking things would be of benefit, > and with forethought is achievable. > > For A we have agreed to diverge. > > For B I expect my view to be in the minority, but I would like to > request, at a minimum, a change in the IAM file case name to explicitly > call out SAS1.0 instead of SAS. > > -Chris > > > From sacadmin Mon Aug 25 11:02:26 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7PI2P8k017897 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m7PI2LOK016832 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:FWARC@sun.com>; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:02:24 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K660090X4RY8T00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for FWARC@sun.com (ORCPT FWARC@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K6600JDT4RXPJF0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for FWARC@sun.com (ORCPT FWARC@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:02:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m7PI2LhQ013051 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K6600G0143YJC00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Hitendra.Zhangada@Sun.COM) for FWARC@sun.com (ORCPT FWARC@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.85.16] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K66000C04R22Z40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:01:50 -0700 From: Hitendra Zhangada Subject: Issues to discuss for 2008/013 - SAS Bindings Sender: Hitendra.Zhangada@sun.com To: FWARC@sun.com, Eduardo Horvath Cc: "Lee, Pingchun" , Chris Horne Message-id: <48B2F38E.7030305@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) Status: RO Content-Length: 1049 Here are few issues to be discussed at the meeting today. 1. In the specification section 2.2, definition of SASAddress have typos. Remove "name" and "followings" from the first line of the description. Also, replace "format" with the "address" in the second line. 2. Section 4.1.1, "local-wwid" property. I don't see this property in the interface table. The value of this property is derived from the System MAC address. Supernova's POR is to eliminate System MAC address from their system. There have been discussions in this area but if they want to support SCSI SAS on their system then they will either need system MAC address or we need to use some other MAC address. 3. In Interface table, exported interfaces, comments for "scsi-sas", replace "type" with "device_type". -- Hitendra Zhangada ==================================== SPS Common SW Features Engineering Software Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sun Ph# (858) 625 3757, Sun Ext. x53757 Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu From sacadmin Mon Aug 25 11:52:48 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7PIqlD7019499 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m7PIqfqN004182 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:52:46 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K6600C0573XQ800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K66009XC73X8Z50@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m7PIqjtT024999 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K66003014Q64Z00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Tarl.Neustaedter@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.9.171] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K6600M9C73GEVC0@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:52:28 -0400 From: Tarl Neustaedter Subject: Re: SCSI SAS 1275 Binding [FWARC/2008/013] In-reply-to: <48B2CEDC.8050401@sun.com> Sender: Tarl.Neustaedter@sun.com To: Chris Horne Cc: Eduardo E Horvath , Firmware Arch Message-id: <48B2FF6C.9030500@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Scalable Systems Group MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <48B1C8B1.6020601@sun.com> <48B2CEDC.8050401@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17pre (X11/20080816) Status: RO Content-Length: 859 My comments on the unit address issue - The issue I'm concerned with is that under section 3.1 there are two unit address formats defined, with ambiguity on which form is canonical. The spec currently says the second form "is useable" for directly attached disks, but leaves ambiguous on whether it's canonical for that case. Indeed, as of last friday, there has been exploration on adding an NVRAM switch to select between forms of address. My previous understanding had been that the SASAddress representation was canonical, any time an address was produced (e.g., by encode-unit), it would be in the canonical form. Period. Since that appears to no longer be the case, we need to specify the precise algorithm by which the decision is made to generate the alternate form of address, and that algorithm *must* be followed by both Solaris and OBP. Always. From sacadmin Wed Sep 17 20:54:46 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8I3sjv1026612 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8I3sgAM021353 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:54:44 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7D00I07HJ6K700@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7D00ITSHJ6S6D0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8I3sg6o025405 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:54:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7D00401HD0HQ00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from S.Jain@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.150.16.30] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7D0059WHJ5P500@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:54:39 -0700 From: Sunit Jain Subject: Converting to fast-track: FWARC/2008/013 - SCSI SAS 1275 bindings Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Firmware Arch Cc: Chris Horne , Matthew Jacob , David Hollister , George Tapia Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <48D1D0FF.7020703@Sun.Com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12pre (Windows/20080123) Status: RO Content-Length: 609 I am converting this case to fast-track case for Tarl Neustaedter. This case defines the SCSI SAS Bindings. The case materials have been submitted to the case material directory at : http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/sas-bindings.txt http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interface-sas.txt Related SAS & SATA specification documents are also available at: http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/specifications/ Case timer is set to expire on September 24th, 2008. Regards, Sunit From sacadmin Thu Sep 18 08:21:57 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8IFLvLd012543 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8IFLu4d017024 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:fwarc@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7E0000LDCL0Y00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7E00N76DCK1A00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8IFLur4029398 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:21:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7E00J01D5GEU00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from S.Jain@Sun.COM) for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.145.154.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7E00BOUDCCIE70@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:48 -0700 From: Sunit Jain Subject: Re: Converting to fast-track: FWARC/2008/013 - SCSI SAS 1275 bindings In-reply-to: <48D1D0FF.7020703@Sun.Com> Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Firmware Arch Cc: Chris Horne , Matthew Jacob , David Hollister , George Tapia Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <48D2720C.1080302@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_N0Af6XlSgQY6g//R1sSucw)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <48D1D0FF.7020703@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) Status: RO Content-Length: 9623 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_N0Af6XlSgQY6g//R1sSucw) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 09/17/08 08:54 PM, Sunit Jain wrote: > > I am converting this case to fast-track case for Tarl Neustaedter. > This case defines the SCSI SAS Bindings. The case materials have been > submitted to the case material directory at : > > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/sas-bindings.txt > > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interface-sas.txt > Typo in above url for the interface table. The correct url for the interface table is -- http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interfaces-sas.txt Regards, Sunit > > Related SAS & SATA specification documents are also available at: > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/specifications/ > > > Case timer is set to expire on September 24th, 2008. > > Regards, > Sunit > > -- *Sunit Jain* Common Software Engineering *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* 14 Network Circle, Mailstop UMPK14-205, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Phone/Fax 510-996-7099 Internal x31726 Email S.Jain@Sun.Com --Boundary_(ID_N0Af6XlSgQY6g//R1sSucw) Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0gBSWsFPhbmTKKbMZhZlEA)" --Boundary_(ID_0gBSWsFPhbmTKKbMZhZlEA) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

On 09/17/08 08:54 PM, Sunit Jain wrote:

I am converting this case to fast-track case for Tarl Neustaedter.
This case defines the SCSI SAS Bindings. The case materials have been
submitted to the case material directory at :

http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/sas-bindings.txt
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interface-sas.txt

Typo in above url for the interface table. The correct url for the interface table is --
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interfaces-sas.txt

Regards,
Sunit

Related SAS & SATA specification documents are also available at:
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/specifications/

Case timer is set to expire on September 24th, 2008.

Regards,
Sunit

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Sunit Signature

Sunit Jain
Common Software Engineering

Sun Microsystems, Inc.
14 Network Circle,
Mailstop UMPK14-205,
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Phone/Fax 510-996-7099
Internal x31726
Email S.Jain@Sun.Com

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Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.145.154.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7R003OKGIO78C0@mail-amer.sun.com> for fwarc@sun.com (ORCPT fwarc@sun.com); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:59:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:59:12 -0700 From: Sunit Jain Subject: Re: Converting to fast-track: FWARC/2008/013 - SCSI SAS 1275 bindings In-reply-to: <48D1D0FF.7020703@Sun.Com> Sender: S.Jain@sun.com To: Firmware Arch Cc: Chris Horne , Matthew Jacob , David Hollister , George Tapia Reply-to: S.Jain@sun.com Message-id: <48DBC360.1050809@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yxMAl0SOggRCcA5ZSCysaA)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <48D1D0FF.7020703@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) Status: RO Content-Length: 9159 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_yxMAl0SOggRCcA5ZSCysaA) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Case timer expired yesterday. Can is now approved, IAM* file has been updated. Regards, Sunit On 09/17/08 08:54 PM, Sunit Jain wrote: > > I am converting this case to fast-track case for Tarl Neustaedter. > This case defines the SCSI SAS Bindings. The case materials have been > submitted to the case material directory at : > > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/sas-bindings.txt > > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interface-sas.txt > > > Related SAS & SATA specification documents are also available at: > > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/specifications/ > > > Case timer is set to expire on September 24th, 2008. > > Regards, > Sunit > > -- *Sunit Jain* Common Software Engineering *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* 14 Network Circle, Mailstop UMPK14-205, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Phone/Fax 510-996-7099 Internal x31726 Email S.Jain@Sun.Com --Boundary_(ID_yxMAl0SOggRCcA5ZSCysaA) Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MMa8GW0qjJiCFFBKXk4n1Q)" --Boundary_(ID_MMa8GW0qjJiCFFBKXk4n1Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Case timer expired yesterday. Can is now approved, IAM* file has been updated.

Regards,
Sunit

On 09/17/08 08:54 PM, Sunit Jain wrote:

I am converting this case to fast-track case for Tarl Neustaedter.
This case defines the SCSI SAS Bindings. The case materials have been
submitted to the case material directory at :

   http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/sas-bindings.txt
   http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/interface-sas.txt

Related SAS & SATA specification documents are also available at:
   http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2008/013/commitment2.materials/specifications/

Case timer is set to expire on September 24th, 2008.

Regards,
Sunit

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Sunit Signature

Sunit Jain
Common Software Engineering

Sun Microsystems, Inc.
14 Network Circle,
Mailstop UMPK14-205,
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Phone/Fax 510-996-7099
Internal x31726
Email S.Jain@Sun.Com

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