From sacadmin Mon Jun 25 16:58:32 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5PNwWPI003404 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l5PNuj0Y026470 for <@newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JK700L27UIPI700@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:56:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JK70047MUIG26F0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l5PNueM4024334 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JK700J01UDWL100@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.86.55] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JK700J9FUIB4MA0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:56:35 -0700 From: Terrence Miller Subject: [Fwd: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20] Sender: Terrence.Miller@sun.com To: lsarc@sun.com Reply-to: Terrence.Miller@sun.com Message-id: <46805633.9080606@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5ilCDy945QFS6ZJtlNVvBQ)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041221 Status: RO Content-Length: 3915 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_5ilCDy945QFS6ZJtlNVvBQ) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The attachment is also in the case directory -------- Original Message -------- Subject: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:14:03 -0700 From: Karen Langford To: Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM Hi Terrence, Attached is the new feature list for BDB 4.5. Thanks, Karen -- Terrence **************************************************** | Terrence C. Miller | Sun Microsystems | | terrence.miller@Sun.COM | M.S. MPK16-303 | | 650-786-9192 | 16 Network Circle | | | Menlo Park, CA 94025 | **************************************************** --Boundary_(ID_5ilCDy945QFS6ZJtlNVvBQ) Content-type: text/plain; name=bdb_45_new_features.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=bdb_45_new_features.txt ++ New Features Summary BDB 4.2 -> BDB 4.5 ========================================== - multi-version concurreny control - imporves performance of highly concurrent, mixed read/write systems by giving each user their own “snapshot” of the database and managing concurrent changes by many users - online upgrade - utility for performing hot backups - major improvements to the replication feature - choice of using replication manager with default TPC/IP setup or lower level configuration API - support for delayed client synchronzation - support for client-to-client sync - support for bulk transfer ++ Overview of new features from Oracle's change log ==================================================== The "change log" for BDB 4.5 says ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.5.20/if.4.5.20.html ): New Features: A new event style notification. Multi-Version Concurrency Control for the Btree/Recno access methods. A new replication framework with a default TCP/IP setup. A new port to the BREW platform (a cell phone OS), not fully supported but ready for testing. Several enhancements to the Java Collections API including the implementation of the size() method. Online replication upgrades for high availability replicated 24/7 systems. The "change log" for BDB 4.4 says ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.4.20/if.4.4.20.html ): New Features: Add support to compact an existing Btree database. [#6750] Add support for named in-memory databases. [#9927] Add support for database environment recovery serialization. This simplifies multi-process application architectures. Add DB_REGISTER flag to DB_ENV->open(). [#11511] Add utility for performing hot backups of a database environment. [#11536] Add replication configuration API. [#12110] Add replication support to return error instead of waiting for client sync to complete. [#12110] Add replication support for delayed client synchronization. [#12110] Add replication support for client-to-client synchronization. [#12110] Add replication support for bulk transfer. [#12110] Add new flags DB_DSYNC_DB and DB_DSYNC_LOG [12941] Add DbEnv.log_printf, a new DbEnv method which logs printf style formatted strings into the Berkeley DB database environment log. [#13241] The "change log" for BDB 4.3 says ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.3.29/if.4.3.29.html ): New Features: Add support for light weight, transactionally protected Sequence Number generation. [#5739] Add support for Degree 2 isolation. [#8689] Add election generation information to replication to support Paxos compliance. [#9068] Add support for 64-bit and ANSI C implementations of the RPCGEN utility. [#9548] --Boundary_(ID_5ilCDy945QFS6ZJtlNVvBQ)-- From sacadmin Tue Sep 4 16:37:03 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l84Nb3gt029777 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l84NYHOH026378 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JNV0070LAT63900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JNV00H16AT5XCE0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:34:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l84NYHIX015523 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JNV00101A4J9Z00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.20.79] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JNV00ALHASYF850@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:05 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: Terrence.Miller@sun.com Cc: lsarc@sun.com, Rob Stephens Message-id: <46DDEB6D.6020803@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 1080 Hi Terrence, (I'm resending this as I know you've had trouble with your email). This email is a followup to the preinception review where we discussed packaging BDB 4.2 and BDB 4.5 together. As a result ARC requested that we address a couple of issues relating to backward compatibility before approving us to make this case a fasttrack. The issues are addressed below: (link to preiception minutes: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2007/20070626.html) 1) Can existing customers determine which library to use? Yes, with two existing libraries in place old and new applications can determine which library they need to link to. eg: so.1 and so.2 2)Can an old application link to the new library? No, the application will need to be recomipled against the new library. The old library will be delivered for backwards compatibility purposes. However database upgrade is supported from 4.2 to 4.5 with the use of the db_upgrade utility provided in the package. Based on this information we would like to proceed with this case as a fasttrack. Thanks, Karen From sacadmin Mon Oct 8 11:03:31 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l98I3VXa010409 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l98I06ke012424 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPL00B1BU0GJ400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPL009XRU0FGI00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); 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Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.145.154.61] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPN00GU4P9C5M40@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:12:47 -0700 From: Aarti Pai Subject: Additional materials for LSARC/ 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 Sender: Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM To: lsarc@Sun.COM Cc: Karen Langford Reply-to: Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM Message-id: <470BC49F.8020203@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_f9JPTkXoWlPXFn+vh23QXA)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4v; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070109 Status: RO Content-Length: 1639 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_f9JPTkXoWlPXFn+vh23QXA) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT New materials are noted below. Aarti sac% ls -l inception.materials total 129 -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sacmail 16326 Oct 9 11:13 Architecture.pdf <==New File -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sacmail 41435 Oct 9 11:13 Questionairre.txt <==New File drwxr-sr-x 14 apai sacmail 15 Sep 20 2006 docs -rw-r--r-- 1 apai sacmail 4600 Oct 9 11:13 sol_pkgmap.txt <==New File --Boundary_(ID_f9JPTkXoWlPXFn+vh23QXA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT New materials are noted below.
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sac% ls -l inception.materials
total 129
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sacmail    16326 Oct  9 11:13 Architecture.pdf  <==New File
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sacmail    41435 Oct  9 11:13 Questionairre.txt <==New File
drwxr-sr-x  14 apai     sacmail       15 Sep 20  2006 docs
-rw-r--r--   1 apai     sacmail     4600 Oct  9 11:13 sol_pkgmap.txt <==New File

 --Boundary_(ID_f9JPTkXoWlPXFn+vh23QXA)-- From sacadmin Wed Oct 10 16:30:14 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9ANUDlx029859 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9ANQpR9011333 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:26:57 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPP00I01YGVNQ00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPP004EJYGUCTF0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9ANQsYi021770 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPP00G01Y7FYU00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.10.100] (adsl-69-107-143-125.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.107.143.125]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPP00B6FYGU4S30@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:26:47 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: lsarc@sun.com Cc: Rob Stephens Message-id: <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 474 Hello, We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a sponsor. Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for review in: http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ Can you please assign us a sponsor? Thank you, Karen From sacadmin Thu Oct 11 10:23:28 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9BHNRVK022266 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BHK5XI013220 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:20:10 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPR00303C5LXR00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPR00C9SC5LICD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9BHK9wT003078 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPR00401BP4O700@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.86.55] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPR00M82C5K73F0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:20:08 -0700 From: Terrence Miller Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> Sender: Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM To: Karen Langford Cc: lsarc@Sun.COM, Rob Stephens Reply-to: Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM Message-id: <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041221 Status: RO Content-Length: 1246 I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your general broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the charity of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC process. Karen Langford wrote: > Hello, > > We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest version > of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in > Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. > We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a > sponsor. > > Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for > review in: > > http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ > > Can you please assign us a sponsor? > Thank you, > Karen -- Terrence **************************************************** | Terrence C. Miller | Sun Microsystems | | terrence.miller@Sun.COM | M.S. MPK16-303 | | 650-786-9192 | 16 Network Circle | | | Menlo Park, CA 94025 | **************************************************** From sacadmin Thu Oct 11 10:54:05 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9BHs4tq024087 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BHogd0013711; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPR00E09DKJHH00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-uk-02.uk.sun.com ([129.156.101.196]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPR00DUMDKI0120@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serinus.UK.Sun.COM (serinus.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.173.208]) by dm-uk-02.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BHodCB019944; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (vpn-129-150-64-100.East.Sun.COM [129.150.64.100]) by serinus.UK.Sun.COM (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/CTE 3.0) with ESMTP id l9BHoLhQ008146; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:50:00 -0400 From: James Gates Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> To: Terrence.Miller@SUN.COM Cc: Karen Langford , lsarc@SUN.COM, Rob Stephens , Masood Mortazavi Message-id: <470E6248.30208@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060509 Status: RO Content-Length: 1057 As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with Karen's DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can represent DBTG's interests in LSARC. Terrence Miller wrote: > I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization > has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your general > broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the > charity > of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC > process. > > Karen Langford wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >> sponsor. >> >> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >> review in: >> >> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >> >> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >> Thank you, >> Karen > > From sacadmin Thu Oct 11 11:07:15 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9BI7ED3024839 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BI3tYf021468 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:03:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPR00F1LE6K2X00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPR00D7OE6J0140@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9BI3tMF016551 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPR00001DURM500@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.10.100] (adsl-69-107-143-125.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.107.143.125]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPR00LFUE6CIQ00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:42 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470E6248.30208@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: James Gates Cc: Terrence.Miller@sun.com, lsarc@sun.com, Rob Stephens , Masood Mortazavi Message-id: <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> <470E6248.30208@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 1224 Hi James, Thanks for raising your hand on this. Do you have a timeframe for finishing your internship? Karen James Gates wrote: > As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with Karen's > DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can represent > DBTG's interests in LSARC. > > > Terrence Miller wrote: >> I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization >> has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your >> general >> broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the >> charity >> of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC >> process. >> >> Karen Langford wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >>> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >>> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >>> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >>> sponsor. >>> >>> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >>> review in: >>> >>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >>> >>> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >>> Thank you, >>> Karen >> >> From sacadmin Thu Oct 11 11:23:16 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9BINFBI025366 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BIJrFB018276; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:19:56 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPR0071NEX4RX00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-uk-02.uk.sun.com ([129.156.101.196]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPR006UEEX1CZ10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from serinus.UK.Sun.COM (serinus.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.173.208]) by dm-uk-02.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BIJkiw026592; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:19:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (vpn-129-150-64-100.East.Sun.COM [129.150.64.100]) by serinus.UK.Sun.COM (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/CTE 3.0) with ESMTP id l9BIJP6A008740; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:19:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:19:01 -0400 From: James Gates Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: Terrence.Miller@sun.com, lsarc@sun.com, Rob Stephens , Masood Mortazavi Message-id: <470E6915.6060005@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> <470E6248.30208@sun.com> <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060509 Status: RO Content-Length: 1563 I don't have an end date yet, but it won't be within the lifetime of this case (you're still dependent on Terrence). Someone from the existing LSARC team can probably give you an idea of the average length of internship. I will let you know when I'm done. Karen Langford wrote: > Hi James, > Thanks for raising your hand on this. Do you have a timeframe for > finishing your internship? > Karen > > James Gates wrote: > >> As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with Karen's >> DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can represent >> DBTG's interests in LSARC. >> >> >> Terrence Miller wrote: >> >>> I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization >>> has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your >>> general >>> broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the >>> charity >>> of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC >>> process. >>> >>> Karen Langford wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >>>> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >>>> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >>>> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >>>> sponsor. >>>> >>>> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >>>> review in: >>>> >>>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >>>> >>>> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >>>> Thank you, >>>> Karen >>> >>> >>> From sacadmin Thu Oct 11 11:35:03 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9BIZ3qm025411 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BIVkuX011273; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPR00G01FGYMV00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPR00CLPFGXZU50@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9BIVhMD009599; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:31:43 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470E6915.6060005@sun.com> To: James Gates Cc: Karen Langford , Terrence.Miller@sun.com, lsarc@sun.com, Rob Stephens , Masood Mortazavi Message-id: <470E6C0F.1000301@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> <470E6248.30208@sun.com> <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> <470E6915.6060005@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 2014 Interns can start sponsoring fasttracks once they've seen a few and understand how they work. Average length of internships is usually measured in months to years, depending on how actively the intern participates. (I think I was an intern for 2 years or so.) -alan- James Gates wrote: > I don't have an end date yet, but it won't be within the lifetime of > this case (you're still dependent on Terrence). Someone from the > existing LSARC team can probably give you an idea of the average length > of internship. I will let you know when I'm done. > > > Karen Langford wrote: >> Hi James, >> Thanks for raising your hand on this. Do you have a timeframe for >> finishing your internship? >> Karen >> >> James Gates wrote: >> >>> As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with >>> Karen's DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can >>> represent DBTG's interests in LSARC. >>> >>> >>> Terrence Miller wrote: >>> >>>> I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization >>>> has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your >>>> general >>>> broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the >>>> charity >>>> of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC >>>> process. >>>> >>>> Karen Langford wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >>>>> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >>>>> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >>>>> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >>>>> sponsor. >>>>> >>>>> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >>>>> review in: >>>>> >>>>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >>>>> >>>>> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Karen >>>> >>>> >>>> -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From sacadmin Mon Oct 22 15:02:06 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9MM25DF018410 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9MLwZNk021655 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:58:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQC007012DODQ00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQC000B42DNW760@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9MLwZSp015111 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQC00I012DDZE00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.144.89.138] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQC0017J2DNE520@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:35 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <470E6C0F.1000301@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <471D1D0B.3060804@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> <470E6248.30208@sun.com> <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> <470E6915.6060005@sun.com> <470E6C0F.1000301@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 2260 Hello, Its been a couple of weeks and I haven't heard anything regarding this case. One question: has a time-out been assigned? If not could we set one for 2 weeks time? Thanks, Karen Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Interns can start sponsoring fasttracks once they've seen a few and understand > how they work. Average length of internships is usually measured in months to > years, depending on how actively the intern participates. (I think I was an > intern for 2 years or so.) > > -alan- > > James Gates wrote: > >> I don't have an end date yet, but it won't be within the lifetime of >> this case (you're still dependent on Terrence). Someone from the >> existing LSARC team can probably give you an idea of the average length >> of internship. I will let you know when I'm done. >> >> >> Karen Langford wrote: >> >>> Hi James, >>> Thanks for raising your hand on this. Do you have a timeframe for >>> finishing your internship? >>> Karen >>> >>> James Gates wrote: >>> >>> >>>> As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with >>>> Karen's DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can >>>> represent DBTG's interests in LSARC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Terrence Miller wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization >>>>> has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your >>>>> general >>>>> broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the >>>>> charity >>>>> of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC >>>>> process. >>>>> >>>>> Karen Langford wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >>>>>> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >>>>>> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >>>>>> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >>>>>> sponsor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >>>>>> review in: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > From sacadmin Tue Oct 30 17:13:49 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9V0DnDR026639 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9V0ADSA006109 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:10:15 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQR00J031T0OQ00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQR007C71T0BQ90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9V0ACOm026997 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQR007011R25B00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.10.100] (adsl-69-107-137-51.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.107.137.51]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQR002931SMDQ00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:09:57 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com Cc: lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <4727C7D5.7080308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 3373 Hi Alan, Can you please help me out? Yet another week has passed with no response regarding this fast track case. I'm wondering if the lack of interest is due to the trivialness of our case ie: we want to upgrade to Berkeley Database 4.5.20,( we already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in Solaris/Nevada). If this is true can someone approve this case. Or at least assign us a 2 week time-out. We're also looking for help/advice on delivering a source package ie: what values go in the pkginfo file, file permissions, and install locations. I'd really appreciate it if you could point me to someone who can advise us. Thanks, Karen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:58:35 -0700 From: Karen Langford To: lsarc@sun.com References: <46E5804D.20707@sun.com> <46E58C0B.8010507@Sun.Com> <46E58CF9.70703@sun.com> <470D5FB7.20706@sun.com> <470E5B48.7060308@Sun.COM> <470E6248.30208@sun.com> <470E657E.5000406@sun.com> <470E6915.6060005@sun.com> <470E6C0F.1000301@sun.com> Hello, Its been a couple of weeks and I haven't heard anything regarding this case. One question: has a time-out been assigned? If not could we set one for 2 weeks time? Thanks, Karen Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Interns can start sponsoring fasttracks once they've seen a few and understand > how they work. Average length of internships is usually measured in months to > years, depending on how actively the intern participates. (I think I was an > intern for 2 years or so.) > > -alan- > > James Gates wrote: > >> I don't have an end date yet, but it won't be within the lifetime of >> this case (you're still dependent on Terrence). Someone from the >> existing LSARC team can probably give you an idea of the average length >> of internship. I will let you know when I'm done. >> >> >> Karen Langford wrote: >> >>> Hi James, >>> Thanks for raising your hand on this. Do you have a timeframe for >>> finishing your internship? >>> Karen >>> >>> James Gates wrote: >>> >>> >>>> As I am in the RPE database team, I have a lot of contact with >>>> Karen's DBTG organization. Once my internship is complete, I can >>>> represent DBTG's interests in LSARC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Terrence Miller wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'll take this one. However, I recommend that if your organization >>>>> has no LSARC members or fast-track licensees (assumed else why your >>>>> general >>>>> broadcast) you inform your management that they are dependent on the >>>>> charity >>>>> of strangers :-) and should nominate someone to assist with the ARC >>>>> process. >>>>> >>>>> Karen Langford wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are looking to get ARC approval to use BDB 4.5.20, the latest >>>>>> version of the Berkeley Database. We already deliver BDB 4.2.52 in >>>>>> Solaris/Nevada and other Sun products as a shared component. >>>>>> We believe this case qualifies as a Fast track however we require a >>>>>> sponsor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Our team has all required documentation for our case and ready for >>>>>> review in: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2007/299/inception.materials/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please assign us a sponsor? >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > From sacadmin Tue Oct 30 17:28:44 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9V0ShFk026682 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9V0P9br002301 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:25:09 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQR00H132HV4S00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQR003I62HUC790@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9V0P6vU022202; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:25:06 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <4727C7D5.7080308@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <4727CB62.70605@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4727C7D5.7080308@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 1518 Karen Langford wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Can you please help me out? > > Yet another week has passed with no response regarding this fast track > case. > > I'm wondering if the lack of interest is due to the trivialness of our > case ie: we want > to upgrade to Berkeley Database 4.5.20,( we already deliver BDB 4.2.52 > in Solaris/Nevada). > If this is true can someone approve this case. Or at least assign us a 2 > week time-out. The lack of interest is most likely from a lack of time - personally, I was out of town for almost two weeks. The materials seem a bit big for a fasttrack though, yet without answering the real question: What's the difference between the previous version and this one? A fasttrack would throw away 90% of the information you put in the inception.materials directory and focus on answering that question, along with the related question of why this change requires shipping both old and new versions. > We're also looking for help/advice on delivering a source package ie: > what values go in > the pkginfo file, file permissions, and install locations. I'd really > appreciate it if > you could point me to someone who can advise us. Someone from SFW maybe, though source packages are really falling out of use quickly, as we move to just having real open source repositories publically available. I've never been involved with such a thing, so I wouldn't know. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From sacadmin Wed Oct 31 11:44:17 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9VIiGeg024212 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9VIeT9M010911 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:40:41 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQS00E13H7QN700@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQS0082TH7P35B0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9VIeb7A010616 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQS00D01GJNHA00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.144.89.150] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQS00DTUH7KOT40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:40:33 -0700 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - request for Fast track sponsor In-reply-to: <4727CB62.70605@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <4728CC21.8040501@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4727C7D5.7080308@sun.com> <4727CB62.70605@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Status: RO Content-Length: 2528 Hi Alan, Thanks for getting back to me. Just some background, we had an inception review back in June where we presented the new features (list is in our case folder) to show this was a minor update. We also explained that we would continue to deliver the old package for customers still using BDB 4.2 and who weren't planning to upgrade to BDB 4.5. The review ended with the ARC team agreeing that we could go fast track conditional on us answering two questions regarding the packaging of both 4.2 & 4.5. We sent out an email answering these issues to Terrence Miller and the lsarc alias back in Sep, and received no response. Terrence was assigned to this case however he doesn't have time to work on cases that don't come out of his organization. He suggested James Gates run with our case (sponsor our fast track?). We don't care who sponsors our case or even if its a fast track (although it would make life easier for everyone) we just want to see some forward movement on this case. Thanks, Karen Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Karen Langford wrote: > >> Hi Alan, >> >> Can you please help me out? >> >> Yet another week has passed with no response regarding this fast track >> case. >> >> I'm wondering if the lack of interest is due to the trivialness of our >> case ie: we want >> to upgrade to Berkeley Database 4.5.20,( we already deliver BDB 4.2.52 >> in Solaris/Nevada). >> If this is true can someone approve this case. Or at least assign us a 2 >> week time-out. >> > > The lack of interest is most likely from a lack of time - personally, I was > out of town for almost two weeks. > > The materials seem a bit big for a fasttrack though, yet without answering the > real question: > What's the difference between the previous version and this one? > > A fasttrack would throw away 90% of the information you put in the > inception.materials directory and focus on answering that question, along > with the related question of why this change requires shipping both old > and new versions. > > >> We're also looking for help/advice on delivering a source package ie: >> what values go in >> the pkginfo file, file permissions, and install locations. I'd really >> appreciate it if >> you could point me to someone who can advise us. >> > > Someone from SFW maybe, though source packages are really falling out of > use quickly, as we move to just having real open source repositories > publically available. I've never been involved with such a thing, so > I wouldn't know. > > From sacadmin Fri Dec 7 13:23:20 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7LNK5o009285 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7LNJhd001193 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP000097EVMY00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:23:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP00FS37ETS5E0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:23:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7LNHQF018307 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:23:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP00G016P34V00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:23:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from Macintosh-4.local ([129.150.38.152]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP0079B7EPAPC0@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:23:14 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:23:13 -0700 From: "Mark A. Carlson" Subject: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track Sender: Mark.Carlson@sun.com To: lsarc Cc: Karen Langford , Rob Stephens Message-id: <4759B9C1.6080706@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7MM2y502LkJ/IktjcqPG8g)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 6218 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_7MM2y502LkJ/IktjcqPG8g) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer expires 12/14/07. Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case directory. --Boundary_(ID_7MM2y502LkJ/IktjcqPG8g) Content-type: text/plain; name=fast_track_proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=fast_track_proposal.txt Template Version: %Z%%M% %I% %E% SMI 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Berkeley Database 4.5.20 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Karen Langford 1.3. Date of This Document: 05/24/2007 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: NA 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: William Franklin 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: Database Technology Group 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: Masood.Mortazavi@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: Karen.Langford@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: Rebecca.Hansen@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: NA 2. Project Summary 2.1. Project Description: Currently, the Berkeley Database (BDB) ships within a number of Sun products. This ARC case is to establish BDB 4.5.20, the latest version of the Berkeley Database, as an accepted database technology for product use within Sun, including Solaris, and the Sun Java Enterprise System. We are also looking for guidance on the correct way to uniquely name BDB's packages and installpath so that more than one version of BDB can exist on the same platform. 2.2. Risks and Assumptions: Many products currently use prior versions of Berkeley DB. These products may not be able to upgrade immediately to this new version of Berkeley DB. 3. Business Summary 3.1. Problem Area: There are at least 20 Sun products that currently use Berkeley DB today. We anticipate they will want to upgrade to this new release within the year. 3.2. Market/Requester: There is no specific market. The requester is the Database Technology Group, with the support of the various Berkeley DB users (in particular the NICP Software group). 3.3. Business Justification: Allows our products to use the latest of Berkeley BDB technology which is centerally managed by DBTG. 3.4. Competitive Analysis: This case does not change the competetive landscape in any real way; it is a version update. 3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure: There is no real window that will close on us here, but the sooner we make this version available to product groups the sooner they can move to this new version. 3.6. How will you know when you are done?: When DBTG makes an ARC approved BDB binaries available for use. 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Berkeley DB is a C-based, record-level database package. It allows very fast, vertically scalable, transactional access to persistent data. It is already in heavy use within Sun; in particular it is the underlying data store for Sun Java Directory Service. For more information on the new features of BDB 4.5.20 please see if.4.5.20.html in the case directory 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): NA 4.3. In Scope: NA 4.4. Out of Scope: NA 4.5. Interfaces: The Berkeley Database is a third party product and according to our licensing agreement the interfaces cannot be made available directly to the customer. This has not changed. Any redistribution of the libraries must include the original Sleepycat/Oracle license agreement. 4.6. Doc Impact: None. 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: NA 4.8. HA Impact: New in the Berkeley DB Release 4.5 is the non-stop upgrade feature - which enables a replicated BDB system to be upgraded without downtime. Also new is the replication framework feature - which provides a pre-built and supported set of functions for quickly building replicated or highly available systems. 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: NA 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: For Solaris and Nevada: Cluster id: SUNWCbdb Metaclusters: SUNWCXall, SUNWCall, SUNWCprog, SUNWCuser, SUNWreq Cluster name: BerkeleyDB-Base 4.2.52 Packages: SUNWbdb, SUNWbdbj We will add packages for the new release. 4.11. Security Impact: NA 4.12. Dependencies: Solaris and Nevada Access Manager Directory Server Messaging Server Message Queue Mail Server Calendar Server Evolution PHP Flexline 600 & Virtual Storage Manager ( StorageTek ) Identity Server Instant Messaging Mars Keystone Niagra / Rock SP N1 Sun Cluster N1 Grid Portal Server NSS Open Office OPL StarOffice WPSync Sendmail Solaris SNMP Agent CDE Tooltalk Solaris Encryption Framework SJS Web Server 5. Reference Documents: Please see the docs folder under inception.materials. 6. Resources and Schedule: 6.1. Projected Availability: September 1, solely based on time required to garner ARC approval. 6.2. Cost of Effort: Estimated at 3 person months. 6.3. Cost of Capital Resources: Negligble. 6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information: 6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name: Software 6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected: Standard 6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions: - Must be delivered as Solaris packages, Linux RPMs, Windows zip, and HP depots. - Must be delivered in time for next edition of Sun Java Enterprise System. 6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements: No 6.4.6. Notes: NA 6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release: September 1, 2007. 6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date: There will be no code review, this is 3rd-party code. 6.4.9. Update approval addition: No additions. 6.5. ARC review type: Standard 7. Prototype Availability: 7.1. Prototype Availability: Berkeley DB 4.5.20 is available today. 7.2. Prototype Cost: None --Boundary_(ID_7MM2y502LkJ/IktjcqPG8g)-- From Mark.Carlson@sun.com Fri Dec 7 13:26:22 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7LQMFJ009303 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7LQIpV025600 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP0000J7JVW900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:26:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP00F4J7JQS7E0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7LQE6L016645 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:26:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP00E016YX4X00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from Macintosh-4.local ([129.150.38.152]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP00AQL7JOOS10@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:26:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:26:11 -0700 From: "Mark A. Carlson" Subject: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track Sender: Mark.Carlson@sun.com To: lsarc-ext@sun.com Cc: Karen Langford , Rob Stephens Message-id: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SFNdG+RhOl0S9oWV13LOQw)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 6218 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_SFNdG+RhOl0S9oWV13LOQw) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer expires 12/14/07. Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case directory. --Boundary_(ID_SFNdG+RhOl0S9oWV13LOQw) Content-type: text/plain; name=fast_track_proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=fast_track_proposal.txt Template Version: %Z%%M% %I% %E% SMI 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Berkeley Database 4.5.20 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Karen Langford 1.3. Date of This Document: 05/24/2007 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: NA 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: William Franklin 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: Database Technology Group 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: Masood.Mortazavi@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: Karen.Langford@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: Rebecca.Hansen@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: NA 2. Project Summary 2.1. Project Description: Currently, the Berkeley Database (BDB) ships within a number of Sun products. This ARC case is to establish BDB 4.5.20, the latest version of the Berkeley Database, as an accepted database technology for product use within Sun, including Solaris, and the Sun Java Enterprise System. We are also looking for guidance on the correct way to uniquely name BDB's packages and installpath so that more than one version of BDB can exist on the same platform. 2.2. Risks and Assumptions: Many products currently use prior versions of Berkeley DB. These products may not be able to upgrade immediately to this new version of Berkeley DB. 3. Business Summary 3.1. Problem Area: There are at least 20 Sun products that currently use Berkeley DB today. We anticipate they will want to upgrade to this new release within the year. 3.2. Market/Requester: There is no specific market. The requester is the Database Technology Group, with the support of the various Berkeley DB users (in particular the NICP Software group). 3.3. Business Justification: Allows our products to use the latest of Berkeley BDB technology which is centerally managed by DBTG. 3.4. Competitive Analysis: This case does not change the competetive landscape in any real way; it is a version update. 3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure: There is no real window that will close on us here, but the sooner we make this version available to product groups the sooner they can move to this new version. 3.6. How will you know when you are done?: When DBTG makes an ARC approved BDB binaries available for use. 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Berkeley DB is a C-based, record-level database package. It allows very fast, vertically scalable, transactional access to persistent data. It is already in heavy use within Sun; in particular it is the underlying data store for Sun Java Directory Service. For more information on the new features of BDB 4.5.20 please see if.4.5.20.html in the case directory 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): NA 4.3. In Scope: NA 4.4. Out of Scope: NA 4.5. Interfaces: The Berkeley Database is a third party product and according to our licensing agreement the interfaces cannot be made available directly to the customer. This has not changed. Any redistribution of the libraries must include the original Sleepycat/Oracle license agreement. 4.6. Doc Impact: None. 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: NA 4.8. HA Impact: New in the Berkeley DB Release 4.5 is the non-stop upgrade feature - which enables a replicated BDB system to be upgraded without downtime. Also new is the replication framework feature - which provides a pre-built and supported set of functions for quickly building replicated or highly available systems. 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: NA 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: For Solaris and Nevada: Cluster id: SUNWCbdb Metaclusters: SUNWCXall, SUNWCall, SUNWCprog, SUNWCuser, SUNWreq Cluster name: BerkeleyDB-Base 4.2.52 Packages: SUNWbdb, SUNWbdbj We will add packages for the new release. 4.11. Security Impact: NA 4.12. Dependencies: Solaris and Nevada Access Manager Directory Server Messaging Server Message Queue Mail Server Calendar Server Evolution PHP Flexline 600 & Virtual Storage Manager ( StorageTek ) Identity Server Instant Messaging Mars Keystone Niagra / Rock SP N1 Sun Cluster N1 Grid Portal Server NSS Open Office OPL StarOffice WPSync Sendmail Solaris SNMP Agent CDE Tooltalk Solaris Encryption Framework SJS Web Server 5. Reference Documents: Please see the docs folder under inception.materials. 6. Resources and Schedule: 6.1. Projected Availability: September 1, solely based on time required to garner ARC approval. 6.2. Cost of Effort: Estimated at 3 person months. 6.3. Cost of Capital Resources: Negligble. 6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information: 6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name: Software 6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected: Standard 6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions: - Must be delivered as Solaris packages, Linux RPMs, Windows zip, and HP depots. - Must be delivered in time for next edition of Sun Java Enterprise System. 6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements: No 6.4.6. Notes: NA 6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release: September 1, 2007. 6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date: There will be no code review, this is 3rd-party code. 6.4.9. Update approval addition: No additions. 6.5. ARC review type: Standard 7. Prototype Availability: 7.1. Prototype Availability: Berkeley DB 4.5.20 is available today. 7.2. Prototype Cost: None --Boundary_(ID_SFNdG+RhOl0S9oWV13LOQw)-- From danek.duvall@sun.com Fri Dec 7 13:41:05 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7Lf5dF009410 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7Lf3gn003689; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:41:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP00A0Z88GFI00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP00C4Q88DXXC0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7Lf1Ba008815; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB7Lf0C0008956; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lB7Lf0sr008955; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:41:00 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> To: "Mark A. Carlson" Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Rob Stephens , Karen Langford Message-id: <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 305 On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:26:11PM -0700, Mark A. Carlson wrote: > I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer > expires 12/14/07. > Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case > directory. Is there any architectural content to this case? Danek From sacadmin Fri Dec 7 13:47:14 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7LlD7W009473 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7Ll08F019482 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:47:12 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP00B1D8IM3200@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP00C3F8IMY4E0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7LlAxw014699 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP005018FKM100@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.4] ([24.10.86.139]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP00AUX8ILLC70@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:04 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759B9C1.6080706@sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: "Mark A. Carlson" Cc: lsarc , Karen Langford , Rob Stephens Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <4759BF58.4000309@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759B9C1.6080706@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070622) Status: RO Content-Length: 516 Karen, Just a couple of questions: Is this project targeting a Patch release, Minor release or Major release of the product? What are the taxonomy classifications of the interfaces exposed by this project? I do not see words like Volatile, Uncommitted and Committed within the document. Thanks, John Mark A. Carlson wrote: > I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer > expires 12/14/07. > Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case > directory. > From sacadmin Fri Dec 7 14:24:37 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7MObFT010355 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7MObPL010836 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP00505A91H800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:24:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP004SSA90AO00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:24:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7MOaTK019093 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP00201A65AB00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from rob.stephens@sun.com) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.106] ([67.181.5.198]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP00GL7A8ZEI30@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:24:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:24:35 -0800 From: Rob Stephens Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759BF58.4000309@sun.com> Sender: Robert.Stephens@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc , Karen Langford Message-id: <4759C823.7010607@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PAfseDf4J1dLarCh0G50MQ)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759B9C1.6080706@sun.com> <4759BF58.4000309@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 4027 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_PAfseDf4J1dLarCh0G50MQ) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Fischer wrote: > Karen, > > Just a couple of questions: > > Is this project targeting a Patch release, Minor release or Major > release of the product? This is a minor update release of bdb 4.2 which is already in S10 and Nevada. This project is targeting Nevada. > > What are the taxonomy classifications of the interfaces exposed by this > project? I do not see words like Volatile, Uncommitted and Committed > within the document. Karen- Didnt we have the interface doc from the previous case > > Thanks, > > John > > > Mark A. Carlson wrote: >> I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The >> timer expires 12/14/07. >> Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the >> case directory. >> -- * Rob Stephens * Chief of Staff & Operations Solaris, Core OS *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* Bay Area, California US Phone 1-877-244-4740 or x51734 Mobile 1-510-928-2996 Fax 1-877-244-4740 Email Robert.Stephens@Sun.COM Bill's Staff - Useful Links --Boundary_(ID_PAfseDf4J1dLarCh0G50MQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

John Fischer wrote:
Karen,

Just a couple of questions:

Is this project targeting a Patch release, Minor release or Major
release of the product?
This is a minor update release of bdb 4.2 which is already in S10 and Nevada.  This project is targeting Nevada.

What are the taxonomy classifications of the interfaces exposed by this
project?  I do not see words like Volatile, Uncommitted and Committed
within the document.
Karen-  Didnt we have the interface doc from the previous case

Thanks,

John


Mark A. Carlson wrote:
I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer expires 12/14/07.
Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case directory.


--
Rob Stephens
Chief of Staff & Operations
Solaris, Core OS
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Bay Area, California US
Phone 1-877-244-4740 or x51734
Mobile 1-510-928-2996
Fax 1-877-244-4740
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--Boundary_(ID_PAfseDf4J1dLarCh0G50MQ)-- From rob.stephens@sun.com Fri Dec 7 14:25:29 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7MPS4S010467 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7MPNAe006873 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:25:27 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP0090FAACKM00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP0018WAABGVC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7MPNBE019192 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP00201A65AB00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from rob.stephens@sun.com) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.106] ([67.181.5.198]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP00GLKAAAEI30@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:25:21 -0800 From: Rob Stephens Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Robert.Stephens@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Karen Langford Message-id: <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GRooDOHE/40NkVJ8K8e6cw)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 3401 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_GRooDOHE/40NkVJ8K8e6cw) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Danek Duvall wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:26:11PM -0700, Mark A. Carlson wrote: > > >> I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer >> expires 12/14/07. >> Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case >> directory. >> > > Is there any architectural content to this case? > Karen- If we did not include the arch doc.. please include the one from the 4.2 case. It has not changed. > Danek > > -- * Rob Stephens * Chief of Staff & Operations Solaris, Core OS *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* Bay Area, California US Phone 1-877-244-4740 or x51734 Mobile 1-510-928-2996 Fax 1-877-244-4740 Email Robert.Stephens@Sun.COM Bill's Staff - Useful Links --Boundary_(ID_GRooDOHE/40NkVJ8K8e6cw) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Danek Duvall wrote: 
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:26:11PM -0700, Mark A. Carlson wrote:

  
I am sponsoring this fast-track on behalf of Karen Langford. The timer 
expires 12/14/07.
Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be found in the case 
directory.
    

Is there any architectural content to this case?
Karen- If we did not include the arch doc.. please include the one from the 4.2 case.  It has not changed.
Danek

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--Boundary_(ID_GRooDOHE/40NkVJ8K8e6cw)-- From danek.duvall@sun.com Fri Dec 7 14:32:25 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7MWPJE011381 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7MWPFR020148; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP00609ALZ4F00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP0044PALYAQ10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7MWMBn033606; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB7MWMDA009317; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lB7MWMLh009316; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:32:21 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> To: Rob Stephens Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Karen Langford Message-id: <20071207223221.GK6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 310 On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:25:21PM -0800, Rob Stephens wrote: > Karen- If we did not include the arch doc.. please include the one from the > 4.2 case. It has not changed. If there are no architectural changes from the last time you proposed a BDB case, then there's no reason to present a new one. Danek From sacadmin Fri Dec 7 14:38:50 2007 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7McnLU011400 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7MakEm007182; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 06:36:51 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP0060JATBGT00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP0044XATBB210@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7Makqd000831; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:36:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:36:46 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759C823.7010607@sun.com> To: Rob Stephens Cc: John.Fischer@sun.com, "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc , Karen Langford Message-id: <4759CAFE.40001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4759B9C1.6080706@sun.com> <4759BF58.4000309@sun.com> <4759C823.7010607@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071105) Status: RO Content-Length: 505 Rob Stephens wrote: > John Fischer wrote: >> What are the taxonomy classifications of the interfaces exposed by this >> project? I do not see words like Volatile, Uncommitted and Committed >> within the document. > Karen- Didnt we have the interface doc from the previous case If it was in the previous case we don't want to see it again, we just want to see what's changed since then. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From John.Plocher@sun.com Fri Dec 7 14:43:05 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB7Mh4lC011525 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lB7Mh1AV015401 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:43:04 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSP00J0LB3QQT00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSP00DY2B3PWA30@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lB7Mh1Ex021177 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSP00E01B25N500@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.58.87]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSP007TFB3P5HC0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:43:01 -0800 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> Sender: John.Plocher@sun.com To: Rob Stephens Cc: Danek Duvall , Karen Langford , "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4759CC75.7000607@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 635 Rob Stephens wrote: >> Is there any architectural content to this case? > Karen- If we did not include the arch doc.. please include the > one from the 4.2 case. It has not changed. If I interpret your comments correctly, you are saying that this project is not making any architectural changes whatsoever. If that is so (i.e., no publicly usable interfaces were added, deleted or changed and the behavior of BDB.new is effectively the same as BDB.old), then what actions or deliverables do you expect the Architecture Review process to do here? (i.e., you make it sound like this should have been a simple self-review) -John From Karen.Langford@sun.com Mon Dec 10 16:54:37 2007 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBB0sao2017018 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBB0sWZS002879 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:54:35 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSV00C0H16XUH00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSV004Z916VKM20@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBB0sVZX014111 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSV0060113WCG00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.144.89.237] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSV00AFC16U2F40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:29 -0800 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <4759CC75.7000607@Sun.Com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: John Plocher Cc: Rob Stephens , Danek Duvall , "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <475DDFC5.1030207@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> <4759CC75.7000607@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 973 John Plocher wrote: > Rob Stephens wrote: >>> Is there any architectural content to this case? >> Karen- If we did not include the arch doc.. please include the >> one from the 4.2 case. It has not changed. > > > If I interpret your comments correctly, you are saying that this > project is not making any architectural changes whatsoever. > > If that is so (i.e., no publicly usable interfaces were added, > deleted or changed and the behavior of BDB.new is effectively > the same as BDB.old), then what actions or deliverables do you > expect the Architecture Review process to do here? (i.e., you > make it sound like this should have been a simple self-review) We were looking to ARC for guidance on how to deliver both the new and old library( included for customers not upgrading to the new one). ARC advised us re this issue during our preinception meeting. We incorporated ARC's advice and are now looking for closure on our case. Thanks, Karen > > -John > From Danek.Duvall@sun.com Mon Dec 10 17:02:17 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBB12Hpt017752 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBB12Faw058017; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:02:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSV00E0L1JS2P00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSV004FI1JQKM30@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBB12D0l003703; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBB12Djd023182; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lBB12D2m023181; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:02:13 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC 2007/299 - Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - fast-track In-reply-to: <475DDFC5.1030207@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: John Plocher , Rob Stephens , "Mark A. Carlson" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20071211010213.GB21895@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4759BA73.80300@sun.com> <20071207214100.GJ6122@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4759C851.4060104@sun.com> <4759CC75.7000607@Sun.Com> <475DDFC5.1030207@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 563 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 04:54:29PM -0800, Karen Langford wrote: > We were looking to ARC for guidance on how to deliver both the new and > old library( included for customers not upgrading to the new one). ARC > advised us re this issue during our preinception meeting. We incorporated > ARC's advice and are now looking for closure on our case. So the minutes for the preinception are empty, and there's nothing in this case talking about either this issue or its resolution. If that's the primary issue for this case, it should be found somewhere ... Danek From Mark.Carlson@sun.com Thu Dec 13 06:01:49 2007 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDE1m1K008167 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDE1N9S020587 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:01:48 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSZ00FQFQYY3V10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSZ00F3KQCONN10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBDDmO9u004923 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSZ00C01QA1QA00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from Macintosh-4.local ([129.150.32.30]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSZ004AGQCJYDF0@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:48:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:48:19 -0700 From: "Mark A. Carlson" Subject: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted Sender: Mark.Carlson@sun.com To: lsarc-ext@sun.com Cc: Karen Strong , Rob Stephens Message-id: <47613823.8070709@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wCp8wpKZAv9IvdQDIMHGuw)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 10876 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wCp8wpKZAv9IvdQDIMHGuw) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT New Materials have been provided in the case directory and the timer has been restarted. -rw-rw-r-- 1 markcarl sac 7222 Dec 13 05:42 Proposal.txt -- mark --Boundary_(ID_wCp8wpKZAv9IvdQDIMHGuw) Content-type: message/rfc822; name="Re: ACTION REQUIRED: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20.eml" Return-path: Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.34.119]) by amer5-mail1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JSY00EPLEOIBR00@amer5-mail1.central.sun.com> for Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:38:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JSY00D01EECND00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM (ORCPT Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.144.89.237] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JSY00CILEOHCT20@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:38:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:38:41 -0800 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: ACTION REQUIRED: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 In-reply-to: <475EDF38.5010209@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@Sun.COM To: "Mark A. Carlson" Cc: Rob Stephens Message-id: <476046D1.6000109@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SVJEIB/4LFkrs42BgjGsiw)" References: <474DE106.7040107@sun.com> <474DE337.9020305@sun.com> <474DFF54.4060609@sun.com> <474EDF65.8030003@sun.com> <474F0EED.3010407@sun.com> <4750B7D2.50706@sun.com> <4757043E.5020109@sun.com> <47570950.8000706@Sun.com> <4759951F.4030403@sun.com> <475998E2.2050908@sun.com> <47599F24.40904@Sun.com> <4759A44B.80007@sun.com> <4759A8AA.7080407@sun.com> <4759AAFA.30000@sun.com> <475EDF38.5010209@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Original-recipient: rfc822;Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_SVJEIB/4LFkrs42BgjGsiw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Mark, I have attached a document which covers what we effectively want ARC to approve. ie: delivering both the old and new libraries in the same package. As I mentioned this was ARC's suggestion to us back in the preinception meeting. This document includes the relevant info from the Questionairre and the package map as an appendix to save folk having to wade through these docs in the case folder. I also added under the Upgrade section the answers to issues that came out of the preincepetion meeting regarding this topic. If this doc is what you were looking for can you send it out to the group and reset our time out? Thanks, Karen Mark A. Carlson wrote: > Karen, > > At LSARC today, the committee decided to put the case in "need spec" > in order for you to research the multiple database version deliveries, > document > your plan and provide a document for us to approve. > > Thanks, > > -- mark --Boundary_(ID_SVJEIB/4LFkrs42BgjGsiw) Content-type: text/plain; name=Proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=Proposal.txt Berkeley Database 4.5.20 - LSARC 2007/299 1. Project Summary Berkeley DB (BDB) is a C-based, record-level database package. This ARC case is to establish BDB 4.5.20, the latest version of the Berkeley Database, as an accepted database technology for product use within Sun, including Solaris, and the Sun Java Enterprise System. BDB 4.2.52, approved by ARC (2003/585), is currently used by a number of Sun products and is available in Nevada/S10 and the Java Enterprise System as a shared component. 2. Issue Requiring ARC Guidance Due to a number of customers running legacy systems on BDB 4.2 and not willing to upgrade to BDB 4.5, we need to deliver both versions. How do we do this taking into account the lack of versioning in the existing package names ie: SUNWbdb, SUNWbdbj? 3. Proposal In preinception ARC proposed we deliver both libaries in the same package. See Appendix A for package maps layouts. 3.1 Packaging Proposal As mentioned we will deliver BDB 4.2 and BDB 4.5 in the same packages,ie: SUNWbdb - Berkeley DB for C/C++ applications SUNWbdbj - Berkeley DB for Java applications BDB 4.2 is currently installed under: /usr/lib/bdb - c utilities /usr/lib - libraries (versioned ie: libdb.so.1, libdb_java.so.1) /usr/share - db.jar We propose to install BDB 4.5 under: /usr/lib/bdb45 - c utilities /usr/lib - libraries (versioned ie: libdb.so.3, libdb_java.so.3) /usr/share/bdb45 - db.jar 3.2 Upgrading The new packages will not overwrite an old install of BDB. Versioning of the libraries will allow old and new applications to determine which library they need to link to. eg: so.1 and so.3. To upgrade customers will need to recompile their application against the new library. Database upgrade is supported from 4.2 to 4.5 with the use of the db_upgrade utility provided in the package. Note the database format is the same, but log files change between versions. 4. Other Issues Requiring ARC Guidance 4.1 Valid 64 bit subdirectory name We currently install 64 bit packages under the subdirectory name sparcv ie: for BDB 4.2 64-bit we install to /usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb Is sparcv9 a valid subdirectory name? 4.2 Solaris AMD 64 Also we'd like to notify ARC that we plan to deliver BDB on Solaris AMD 64 bit. Currently, BDB is avilable in Solaris for sparc 32/64 bit and x86 32 bit. Appendix A ---------- Proposed Solaris package map containg both BDB 4.2.52 & 4.5.20. Pkgmap for SUNWbdbj : 1 14580 1 i copyright 93 8257 1190393157 1 i depend 72 6053 1190393157 1 i pkginfo 579 46811 1190393157 1 f none usr/lib/libdb_java.so.1 0755 root bin 1340532 28954 1190390939 1 f none usr/lib/libdb_java.so.3 0755 root bin 1970232 39812 1190391138 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/libdb_java.so.1 0755 root bin 1531360 65315 1190391922 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/libdb_java.so.3 0755 root bin 2225720 35617 1190392298 1 d none usr/share/bdb45 0755 root bin 1 f none usr/share/bdb45/db.jar 0444 root bin 163073 52193 1190390984 1 f none usr/share/db.jar 0444 root bin 163073 52193 1190390984 Pkgmap for SUNWbdb : 1 14254 1 i copyright 93 8257 1190393152 1 i depend 72 6053 1190393152 1 i pkginfo 579 46718 1190393152 1 d none usr/lib/bdb 0755 root bin 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/NOTICE 0444 root bin 384 36065 1190390997 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_archive 0555 root bin 9368 29912 1190390985 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_checkpoint 0555 root bin 12240 966 1190390985 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_deadlock 0555 root bin 11792 43156 1190390985 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_dump 0555 root bin 16868 44857 1190390986 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_load 0555 root bin 25488 38836 1190390986 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_printlog 0555 root bin 12236 17888 1190390986 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_recover 0555 root bin 10540 34770 1190390987 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_stat 0555 root bin 34748 34944 1190390987 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_upgrade 0555 root bin 9748 50050 1190390987 1 f none usr/lib/bdb/db_verify 0555 root bin 12060 21808 1190390988 1 d none usr/lib/bdb45 0755 root bin 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/NOTICE 0444 root bin 384 36065 1190391230 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_archive 0555 root bin 10456 35576 1190391213 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_checkpoint 0555 root bin 13600 24758 1190391213 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_deadlock 0555 root bin 13840 40102 1190391214 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_dump 0555 root bin 16628 17592 1190391214 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_hotbackup 0555 root bin 19484 64238 1190391215 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_load 0555 root bin 28368 28511 1190391215 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_printlog 0555 root bin 85424 55579 1190391215 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_recover 0555 root bin 11636 42065 1190391216 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_stat 0555 root bin 15288 34347 1190391216 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_upgrade 0555 root bin 11020 3817 1190391217 1 f none usr/lib/bdb45/db_verify 0555 root bin 13404 39976 1190391217 1 f none usr/lib/libdb.so.1 0755 root bin 1198064 31921 1190390922 1 f none usr/lib/libdb.so.3 0755 root bin 1779608 16571 1190391114 1 d none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb 0755 root bin 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/NOTICE 0444 root bin 384 36065 1190391984 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_archive 0555 root bin 11968 45719 1190391969 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_checkpoint 0555 root bin 15216 17786 1190391970 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_deadlock 0555 root bin 14616 59955 1190391970 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_dump 0555 root bin 20424 29889 1190391970 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_load 0555 root bin 30344 55510 1190391971 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_printlog 0555 root bin 15688 38814 1190391971 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_recover 0555 root bin 13272 49572 1190391971 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_stat 0555 root bin 40120 52839 1190391972 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_upgrade 0555 root bin 12392 6234 1190391972 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb/db_verify 0555 root bin 14648 45501 1190391972 1 d none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45 0755 root bin 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/NOTICE 0444 root bin 384 36065 1190392400 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_archive 0555 root bin 13168 46078 1190392377 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_checkpoint 0555 root bin 16832 45512 1190392378 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_deadlock 0555 root bin 17112 52282 1190392378 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_dump 0555 root bin 19936 45208 1190392378 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_hotbackup 0555 root bin 24128 2522 1190392379 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_load 0555 root bin 33032 14182 1190392379 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_printlog 0555 root bin 99896 50213 1190392380 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_recover 0555 root bin 14456 56102 1190392380 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_stat 0555 root bin 18256 63706 1190392380 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_upgrade 0555 root bin 13832 15637 1190392381 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45/db_verify 0555 root bin 16088 59610 1190392381 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/libdb.so.1 0755 root bin 1354216 50524 1190391904 1 f none usr/lib/sparcv9/libdb.so.3 0755 root bin 1984312 34654 1190392273 --Boundary_(ID_SVJEIB/4LFkrs42BgjGsiw)-- --Boundary_(ID_wCp8wpKZAv9IvdQDIMHGuw)-- From alan.coopersmith@sun.com Thu Dec 13 08:35:42 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDGZgU0012341 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDGZejW009800; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JSZ00G4DY3G7O00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:35:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JSZ00FFMY3GJT80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:35:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (vpn-129-150-19-110.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.19.110]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDGZakg018651; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:35:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:35:34 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted In-reply-to: <47613823.8070709@sun.com> To: "Mark A. Carlson" Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Karen Strong , Rob Stephens Message-id: <47615F56.8060508@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47613823.8070709@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060602) Status: RO Content-Length: 1765 > Due to a number of customers running legacy systems on BDB 4.2 and not > willing to upgrade to BDB 4.5, we need to deliver both versions. Are the two versions incompatible in either their API's or database formats? Are any of the consumers middleware libraries that could cause both versions to be loaded in the same process? Is either version exposed for use by software built outside of Sun? (I know previous cases limited them to Sun only, but thought someone mentioned this was changing.) > 4. Other Issues Requiring ARC Guidance > > 4.1 Valid 64 bit subdirectory name > > We currently install 64 bit packages under the subdirectory name sparcv > ie: for BDB 4.2 64-bit we install to /usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb > Is sparcv9 a valid subdirectory name? Absolutely - you can see that's where all the other 64-bit libraries are installed on SPARC. The rule in general is for any shared library, the 32-bit version goes in .../lib/ and the 64-bit version in .../lib/sparcv9 on SPARC platforms, .../lib/amd64 on x86/x64 platforms. There's a .../lib/64 symlink to either sparcv9 or amd64 to provide platform independent pathnames. It usually goes at the end of the directory path though, so for the files other than the libdb.so in your pkgmap, we'd normally see usr/lib/bdb45/sparcv9 instead of usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45 . > 4.2 Solaris AMD 64 > > Also we'd like to notify ARC that we plan to deliver BDB on Solaris AMD 64 bit. > Currently, BDB is avilable in Solaris for sparc 32/64 bit and x86 32 bit. If you'd mentioned you weren't, we'd have told you to do this anyway, so that's good. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From Karen.Langford@sun.com Thu Dec 13 12:58:39 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDKwdLL017787 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDKwdj3020682 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT000B0BA9RH600@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT0008G7A9QE050@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBDKwcos021939 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JT000301A85UN00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.144.89.237] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JT0006OPA9PIK20@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:58:37 -0800 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted] In-reply-to: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: "Mark A. Carlson" , Alan Coopersmith Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Rob Stephens Message-id: <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 2102 My apologies if folk get this email twice. >> Due to a number of customers running legacy systems on BDB 4.2 and >> not willing to upgrade to BDB 4.5, we need to deliver both versions. > > Are the two versions incompatible in either their API's or database > formats? No, just the log file formats have changed. > > Are any of the consumers middleware libraries that could cause both > versions > to be loaded in the same process? No. > > Is either version exposed for use by software built outside of Sun? Yes, BUT external use is governed by the OS license provide by Oracle. They are not FREELY redistributable unless the consuming product is made open source. (BSD like license) This is clearly highlighted in the license file being delivered. > (I know previous cases limited them to Sun only, but thought someone > mentioned > this was changing.) > >> 4. Other Issues Requiring ARC Guidance >> >> 4.1 Valid 64 bit subdirectory name >> >> We currently install 64 bit packages under the subdirectory >> name sparcv >> ie: for BDB 4.2 64-bit we install to /usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb >> Is sparcv9 a valid subdirectory name? > > Absolutely - you can see that's where all the other 64-bit libraries > are installed on SPARC. The rule in general is for any shared > library, the > 32-bit version goes in .../lib/ and the 64-bit version in > .../lib/sparcv9 on > SPARC platforms, .../lib/amd64 on x86/x64 platforms. There's a > .../lib/64 > symlink to either sparcv9 or amd64 to provide platform independent > pathnames. > > It usually goes at the end of the directory path though, so for the > files other than the libdb.so in your pkgmap, we'd normally see > usr/lib/bdb45/sparcv9 instead of usr/lib/sparcv9/bdb45 . Thanks for this. > >> 4.2 Solaris AMD 64 >> >> Also we'd like to notify ARC that we plan to deliver BDB on >> Solaris AMD 64 bit. Currently, BDB is avilable in Solaris for sparc >> 32/64 bit and x86 32 bit. > > If you'd mentioned you weren't, we'd have told you to do this anyway, > so that's good. Got you. Thanks again, Karen From Danek.Duvall@sun.com Thu Dec 13 13:48:06 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDLm558020036 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDLm0i6024166; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:48:03 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT000509CK3BG00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT0000HGCK0CN40@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBDLm0Eu056027; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBDLm0uI008405; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lBDLm0uZ008404; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:48:00 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted] In-reply-to: <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , Alan Coopersmith , Rob Stephens , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 761 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:58:37PM -0800, Karen Langford wrote: > My apologies if folk get this email twice. > > >> Due to a number of customers running legacy systems on BDB 4.2 and > >> not willing to upgrade to BDB 4.5, we need to deliver both versions. > > > > Are the two versions incompatible in either their API's or database > > formats? > No, just the log file formats have changed. What are log files in this case? If there are no incompatibilities between the two versions, then why are both required on the system at the same time? If it's simply that known consumers don't trust you and are scared that it won't work, I don't think it's a great idea to acquiesce. If there actually are incompatibilities then I can see the need. Danek From Karen.Langford@sun.com Fri Dec 14 14:02:15 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEM2Fww015922 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBEM2EjV012345 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT2002557VQ1X00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT2000R77VN0510@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBEM2Ba7011320 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JT200L017E05Z00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.100] ([69.107.137.51]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JT200H8R7VAO030@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:01:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:01:56 -0800 From: Karen Langford Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted] In-reply-to: <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , Alan Coopersmith , Rob Stephens , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 1769 Danek Duvall wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:58:37PM -0800, Karen Langford wrote: > > >> My apologies if folk get this email twice. >> >> >>>> Due to a number of customers running legacy systems on BDB 4.2 and >>>> not willing to upgrade to BDB 4.5, we need to deliver both versions. >>>> >>> Are the two versions incompatible in either their API's or database >>> formats? >>> >> No, just the log file formats have changed. >> > > What are log files in this case? > History of the database's transactions. > If there are no incompatibilities between the two versions, then why are > both required on the system at the same time? If it's simply that known > consumers don't trust you and are scared that it won't work, I don't think > it's a great idea to acquiesce. If there actually are incompatibilities > then I can see the need. > We haven't discovered any incompatibilities nor does Oracle publish any incompatibilities between the two versions. Removing 4.2 from the release and only delivering 4.5 creates a risk for product consumers. In the past we've had consumers express concern about breakage if we replaced the library, that said, if we did replace the library they'd have to do a database upgrade (which is done with a tool provided). So while there isn't any true library incompatibilities there are necessary steps for an application using an old library to upgrade to a new one. Note when we did the ARC case for 4.2 we presented that multiple libraries were desired and it was agreed that they were indeed necessary. For this reason and on the advice of LSARC we reengineered the build environment so the libraries would follow Sun ABI guidelines,ie so.1, so.2 and so.3. Karen > Danek > From danek.duvall@sun.com Fri Dec 14 14:51:05 2007 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEMp4xw016466 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBEMotdV024330; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:51:01 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT200G01A4ZXB00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT200CHDA4YE070@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBEMov49014646; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBEMovfp002295; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lBEMovQR002294; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:56 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted] In-reply-to: <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , Alan Coopersmith , Rob Stephens , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 2061 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 02:01:56PM -0800, Karen Langford wrote: > We haven't discovered any incompatibilities nor does Oracle publish any > incompatibilities between the two versions. Removing 4.2 from the release > and only delivering 4.5 creates a risk for product consumers. In the past > we've had consumers express concern about breakage if we replaced the > library, > that said, if we did replace the library they'd have to do a database > upgrade > (which is done with a tool provided). So while there isn't any true library > incompatibilities there are necessary steps for an application using > an old library to upgrade to a new one. > Note when we did the ARC case for 4.2 we presented that multiple libraries > were desired and it was agreed that they were indeed necessary. > For this reason and on the advice of LSARC we reengineered the build > environment so the libraries would follow Sun ABI guidelines,ie so.1, so.2 > and so.3. Okay. I'm extremely uncomfortable with having multiple copies of the library (any library, really) on the system without at least some very strong guidelines (rules, for Sun projects) on how to navigate the problems inherent in the situation. Without guidance, it's untenable, and leads us into DLL hell, just like Windows, and just like Linux. With proper backwards compatibility, we don't have to go in that direction at all, and if there is no incompatibility here as you say, then there's no need for multiple copies. Just because the ARC said you could do that if you had to doesn't mean you should if you can avoid it. As E7 in the Libraries Best Practice states (and which you claim to conform to), changing the major version of a library should be an extremely rare event, needed only when there are incompatible changes. Are your customers' concerns about breakage founded? What are the "necessary steps" customers would need to do on upgrade? Are all database files subject to explicit upgrade procedures? What would it take to make any such upgrade steps hidden from the user? Danek From Karen.Langford@sun.com Mon Dec 17 16:33:30 2007 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBI0XSq1002954 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI0XMRl016007 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:33:28 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT700M03YVNNV00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT700A96YVNM9F0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBI0XNWV017024 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JT700B01YVDWP00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Karen.Langford@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.144.88.128] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JT700CCIYVM8C40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:21 -0800 From: Karen Langford Subject: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted In-reply-to: <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Karen.Langford@sun.com To: ",\"Mark A. Carlson\"" Cc: ",Rob Stephens" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47671551.7080604@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 943 Hi Mark, Just a heads up that our fasttrack case times out tomorrow. We've had a few questions from the ARC folk which we've answered to the best of our abilities. We haven't received any major push back, however Danek seems concerned about us delivering the 2 versions in the same package and the upgrade steps involved - note these steps are outlined in Oracle's BDB reference manual and we don't have a lot of control over them since BDB is a third party product. Also note our customer's have requested we deliver both versions and since ARC suggested we place them in the same package back in June we have moved forward based on that assumption. I don't know if we're breaking any new ground here as with the move to open source there must be other products in the same boat as us. Anyway, we're hoping our case gets approved (obviously). If there's anything I can do to help with the process, let me know. Thanks, Karen From Mark.Carlson@sun.com Mon Dec 17 17:09:04 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBI193Y8004887 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI18urW017939 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:09:02 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT8005070J00E00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:09:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT800DUF0IZT060@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:09:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBI18xOs017267 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:08:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JT80070102D9300@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:08:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from Macintosh-5.local ([71.237.94.98]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JT800I7C0IUKTG0@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:08:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:08:49 -0700 From: "Mark A. Carlson" Subject: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted In-reply-to: <47671551.7080604@sun.com> Sender: Mark.Carlson@sun.com To: Karen Langford Cc: ",Rob Stephens" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47671DA1.9060308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47671551.7080604@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Status: RO Content-Length: 1206 Please attend the regular business slot at 11:30 (or maybe 15min prior just in case) tomorrow and we will discuss your fasttrack and hopefully resolve any outstanding issues. -- mark Karen Langford wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Just a heads up that our fasttrack case times out tomorrow. > > We've had a few questions from the ARC folk which we've answered to > the best of our > abilities. We haven't received any major push back, however Danek > seems concerned > about us delivering the 2 versions in the same package and the upgrade > steps involved - note > these steps are outlined in Oracle's BDB reference manual and we don't > have a lot of control over > them since BDB is a third party product. Also note our customer's have > requested we deliver > both versions and since ARC suggested we place them in the same > package back in June > we have moved forward based on that assumption. I don't know if we're > breaking any new > ground here as with the move to open source there must be other > products in the same boat > as us. > > Anyway, we're hoping our case gets approved (obviously). > If there's anything I can do to help with the process, let me know. > > Thanks, > Karen > > > > > From danek.duvall@sun.com Mon Dec 17 17:59:55 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBI1xt44006496 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI1xtqx024073; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT8003012VVR800@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT800MFR2VUP030@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI1xsqP058532; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBI1xsiR015620; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id lBI1xshU015619; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:53 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted In-reply-to: <47671551.7080604@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: "Mark A. Carlson" , Rob Stephens , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20071218015953.GG17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47671551.7080604@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1230 On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 04:33:21PM -0800, Karen Langford wrote: > We haven't received any major push back, however Danek seems concerned > about us delivering the 2 versions in the same package and the upgrade > steps involved - note these steps are outlined in Oracle's BDB reference > manual and we don't have a lot of control over them since BDB is a third > party product. I hope that I wouldn't push you into a situation where you'd have to do substantial work on third-party code. That's certainly not my goal. > Also note our customer's have requested we deliver both versions At this point, I'd like to know why -- that's been missing from this discussion, and I can't make a decision in good conscience without it. If this was explained in the pre-inception, it needs to be explained again, because there's no record of that discussion. > I don't know if we're breaking any new ground here as with the move to > open source there must be other products in the same boat as us. Many projects delivering open source code want to deliver multiple versions of things, and it's almost always a bad idea, and they almost always don't do it. So no, this is a conversation the ARC has had many times in the past. Danek From alan.coopersmith@sun.com Mon Dec 17 18:31:17 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBI2VGgn006980 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI2V4fi015973; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:31:14 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JT80050P4C1A000@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JT800MM64C0P840@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id lBI2VB70012030; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:11 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 - fast track restarted In-reply-to: <47671551.7080604@sun.com> To: Karen Langford Cc: ",\"Mark A. Carlson\"" , ",Rob Stephens" , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <476730EF.9020105@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4761647B.3090809@sun.com> <47619CFD.1070101@sun.com> <20071213214800.GE7450@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <4762FD54.2000805@sun.com> <20071214225056.GV17670@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47671551.7080604@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071105) Status: RO Content-Length: 883 Karen Langford wrote: > Also note our customer's have requested we deliver both versions The entire reason ARC exists is so we can avoid needless duplication like this. Could you imagine how broken our systems would be if we shipped all the different versions of every library some application certified against? We'd have hundreds of versions of libc alone. This is why we ask projects to enumerate the interfaces they export and the promises they make about stability, and the interfaces they import, so we can know that if you stick to those interfaces you can survive if the libraries upgrade new versions that don't break those promises. How many versions of libdb are you going to ship at once in the future? Every version some other project used once? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From sacadmin Wed Jan 2 10:25:20 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m02IPJqw001714 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m02IP2Dl005450 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:25:19 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JU100C034I15E00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JU100FJ14I0CYB0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m02IPCNE026546 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JU1001013GI8U00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Terrence.Miller@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.86.55] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JU100COP4HXZ550@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:09 -0800 From: Terrence Miller Subject: Re: LSARC/2007/299 Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 In-reply-to: <476AD7E0.9090903@sun.com> Sender: Terrence.Miller@sun.com To: Rob Stephens Cc: Karen Langford , lsarc Reply-to: Terrence.Miller@sun.com Message-id: <477BD705.9090701@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <476AD340.6090103@sun.com> <476AD7E0.9090903@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041221 Status: RO Content-Length: 2227 This case has been derailed. Just schedule an Agenda slot and we will call it a Commitment review. Then you can present your case and if folks are convinced, we can vote and you are done. Rob Stephens wrote: > Thanks Karen. As I explained to Mark, there are real technical reasons > why we planned on delivering multiple libraries from the beginning. > Mark expressed the sentiment that this was the explanation lacking > during the review. I will draft example scenarios and speak them at the > next LSARC meeting in Jan. if given the opportunity. I am official > requesting the we extend the time out period for this case and be heard > at the next meeting. > > Thanks, > > Rob Stephens, Chief of Staff & Operations > Solaris Core OS > x51734 > > Karen Langford wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I spoke to Rob regarding the outcome of our fast track case and the >> concerns >> raised about us delivering multiple BDB libraries. As Rob wasn't on >> the call >> and has the technical expertise necessary to speak to this issue I'd >> like to >> request that ARC give him the opportunity to argue our case at the >> next ARC >> meeting. Rob spoke to Mark after Tuesday's call and briefly explained the >> technical reasons why we need multiple libraries. He is currently >> drafting an email >> with supporting examples which he will send out shortly. >> >> Thank you, >> Karen > > > -- > * Rob Stephens * > Chief of Staff & Operations > Solaris, Core OS > *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* > Bay Area, California US > Phone 1-877-244-4740 or x51734 > Mobile 1-510-928-2996 > Fax 1-877-244-4740 > Email Robert.Stephens@Sun.COM > > > Bill's Staff - Useful Links > > -- Terrence **************************************************** | Terrence C. Miller | Sun Microsystems | | terrence.miller@Sun.COM | M.S. 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--Boundary_(ID_N5NocUoYszEnGnLEL848aQ)-- From owner-sac-advocates Fri Feb 1 11:09:41 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m11J9eFd011290 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m11J8gqO012653; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:08:43 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVK00B01QIIQ900@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVK00BQWQIHEG00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (new-sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.175.65]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m11J8fAX010463; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m11J13pt010485 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m11J0vxW009432 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-agenda-announce@sun.com>; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVK00H3LQ5MWV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-agenda-announce@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:00:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVK005P5Q5ERI80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-agenda-announce@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m11J0oYC016798 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:00:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVK00K01PWJ8700@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Miloslav.Metelka@Sun.COM) for lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:00:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.139] ([84.42.200.17]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVK00JRQQ5DLU90@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-agenda-announce@Sun.COM); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:01:17 +0100 From: Miloslav Metelka Subject: Re: LSARC Agenda - 02/05/2008 - [2007/370], [2007/299] In-reply-to: <47A3666D.5010200@Sun.com> Sender: Miloslav.Metelka@sun.com To: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Cc: lsarc-agenda-announce@sun.com, Petr Suchomel , Karen Langford , Robert.Stephens@sun.com Message-id: <47A36C7D.2010109@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47A3666D.5010200@Sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) Status: RO Content-Length: 2328 I'm very sorry but I cannot attend the Tuesday meeting. Petr should be present. I have checked changes between NetBeans 6.0 and 6.0.1 and there are no changes that would come under our case. -Mila Aarti Pai wrote: > ============================================================================ > Layered Software Architecture Review Committee > > LSARC > ============================================================================ > LSARC meets weekly on Tuesdays, 10am-1pm (Pacific) > > Where: MPK 17 Presidio Conference room, 3rd floor, room 3507 > Video: Realtime: http://mpk17-presidio-camera.eng > Low Bandwidth: http://sac.eng/HTML/camera/index.html > > All LSARC meetings are open: anyone from Engineering may attend > (unless otherwise noted). > > TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: > > OPEN LSARC MEETINGS: > > Open Dial in - (866)545-5223 (Within US) > - (865)673-9887 (International Access) > - x44409 (direct dial inside Sun) > Participant Code: 939 5 586# > > LSARC meetings may be recorded. > > ========================================================================= > ARCHITECTURE REVIEW SCHEDULE: > > 02/05/2008 > 10:00-11:00 Open Inception: NetBeans Core IDE 6.0 (2007/370 ) > Submitter: miloslav.metelka@sun.com > Owner: Ed Hunter > Intern: Rahul Shah > Exposure: open > 11:00-Noon Open Commitment: Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 (2007/299 ) > Submitter: karen.langford@sun.com > Owner: Terrence Miller > Exposure: open > 12:00-12:15 Open ARC Business > 12:20-12:40 Closed ARC Business > From jyri@buye.red.iplanet.com Mon Feb 4 19:07:56 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1537uP1009880 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1537nnG000201; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:07:53 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVQ00107WP5IE00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com ([192.18.65.224]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVQ00H0NWP4GVC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1537qTB003655; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jyri@localhost) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) id m1537qYQ003654; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:07:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:07:52 -0800 From: Jyri Virkki Subject: LSARC/2007/299 committment materials To: lsarc-ext@sun.com, karen.langford@sun.com Message-id: <20080205030752.GB3596@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Status: RO Content-Length: 685 I realize this is a pre-merger case so perhaps these things have been clarified earlier (though the directory cleanup comments would still apply). Looking at the materials in LSARC/2007/299/ for the committment tomorrow it's not entirely clear which is the final proposal on the table. There's an inception.materials directory, but no committment.materials. Then there's a handful of assorted files at the top level dir. Looking at the timestamps, it might be that Proposal.txt is what's on the table for tomorrow, but not clear. It'd be nice to organize the materials in the dir so it's obvious what's old/new/current. -- Jyri J. Virkki - jyri.virkki@sun.com - Sun Microsystems From sacadmin Tue Feb 5 15:08:05 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15N85lt015467 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m15N83d2028763 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVS00F01G9HS100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVS00FF6G9GF500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m15N845s008540 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVS00F01G6HBM00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:08:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.154.54] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVS00D3QG9CRY90@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:08:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:08:00 -0800 From: Aarti Pai Subject: Meeting Minutes for LSARC - 02/05/2008 - [2007/370], [2007/299] Sender: Aarti.Pai@sun.com To: lsarc@sun.com Cc: Petr Suchomel , Miloslav Metelka , Karen Langford , Rob Stephens Reply-to: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Message-id: <47A8EC50.7020908@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_F9jPKmE0ha/1WtfYcaJgCg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070802) x_sac_archived: LSARC/2007/370 Status: RO Content-Length: 3584 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_F9jPKmE0ha/1WtfYcaJgCg) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Minutes/Audio for LSARC - 02/05/2008 are now available: - Arc Business: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz Audio: Part 1: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz.p1.mp3 Part 2: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz.p2.mp3 - Open Inception: NetBeans Core IDE 6.0 (2007/370 ) http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.370.inception Audio: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.370.inception.mp3 - Open Commitment: Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 (2007/299 ) http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.299.commitment Audio: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.299.commitment.mp3 Please contact me directly if you require any corrections/modifications to these minutes. Aarti --Boundary_(ID_F9jPKmE0ha/1WtfYcaJgCg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Minutes/Audio for   LSARC - 02/05/2008 are now available:

- Arc Business:  http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz
    Audio:  Part 1: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz.p1.mp3
                 Part 2: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.arcbiz.p2.mp3

- Open Inception: NetBeans Core IDE 6.0 (2007/370) 
    http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.370.inception
    Audio:  http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.370.inception.mp3

- Open Commitment: Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 (2007/299)
    http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.299.commitment
    Audio: http://sac.sfbay/Archives/Minutes/LSARC/2008/20080205.2007.299.commitment.mp3

Please contact me directly if you require any corrections/modifications
to these minutes.

Aarti

--Boundary_(ID_F9jPKmE0ha/1WtfYcaJgCg)-- From sac-owner Tue Feb 5 15:28:05 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15NS44U015658 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m15NRxUO012502 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:All-ARCs@sun.com>; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:28:03 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JVS00F01H6PGM00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for All-ARCs@sun.com (ORCPT All-ARCs@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JVS000V0H6NOJE0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for All-ARCs@sun.com (ORCPT All-ARCs@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m15NRxMG023493 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVS00F01G6HBM00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Aarti.Pai@Sun.COM) for All-ARCs@Sun.COM (ORCPT All-ARCs@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:27:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.154.54] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVS00JBWH6I4T20@mail-amer.sun.com> for All-ARCs@Sun.COM (ORCPT All-ARCs@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:27:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:27:54 -0800 From: Aarti Pai Subject: LSARC approved 02/05/2008 (2007/299) Sender: Aarti.Pai@sun.com To: Aarti Pai Reply-to: Aarti.Pai@sun.com Message-id: <47A8F0FA.3030607@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070802) Status: RO Content-Length: 218 LSARC approved 02/05/2008 Case: Berkeley_Database_4.5.20 (2007/299) Incompatible Changes: none Precedent: none If more information is needed, please contact the case owner/intern. Aarti