From sacadmin Wed May 30 15:05:46 2007 Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty [129.146.168.40]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4UM5j1p017468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4UM3vZB023941; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0/Submit) id l4UM3vH3023940; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:03:57 -0700 From: Danek Duvall To: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: norm.jacobs@sun.com Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] Message-ID: <20070530220357.GV11507@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r535 (SunOS) Status: RO Content-Length: 2182 Norm wasn't copied. Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.61 05/24/07 SMI This information is Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Norm Jacobs 1.3 Date of This Document: 30 May, 2007 4. Technical Description Summary This project moves ImageMagick, a2ps, psutils from /usr/sfw to /usr. This project upgrades ImageMagick from 5.4.7 to 6.3.4 This project seeks micro/patch binding. Details These interfaces were originally included in Solaris under LSARC 2002/262 "Printer RIP" as External interfaces. This case relocates the ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils interfaces in accordance with PSARC 2007/047 "/usr/gnu" and PSARC 2005/185 "Enabling serendipitous discovery". Links for programs previously delived into /usr/sfw/bin will be left for backward compatability, however all interface will remain Volatile. The bump in ImageMagick version contains many bug fixes. In addition, the perl bindings for ImageMagick are now being included. Interfaces Name Classification Comment ----------------------------------------------------- SUNWa2psr Uncommitted a2ps configuration contents are Volatile SUNWa2psu Uncommitted a2ps software contents are Volatile SUNWimagick Uncommitted ImageMagick software contents are Volatile SUNWpsutils Uncommitted psutils software contents are Volatile References LSARC 2002/262: Printer RIP PSARC 2007/047: /usr/gnu PSARC 2005/185: Enabling serendipitous discovery http://directory.fsf.org/psutils.html http://directory.fsf.org/a2ps.html http://directory.fsf.org/ImageMagick.html 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: SFW 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack From sacadmin Thu May 31 07:08:57 2007 Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (phorcys.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.143]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4VE8uuW005194 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 07:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4VE7Z8M011759; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l4VE7Zqg011756; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:07:35 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:07:35 -0400 From: James Carlson To: Danek Duvall Cc: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-Reply-To: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 688 Danek Duvall writes: > These interfaces were originally included in Solaris under LSARC 2002/262 > "Printer RIP" as External interfaces. This case relocates the ImageMagick, > a2ps, and psutils interfaces in accordance with PSARC 2007/047 "/usr/gnu" Just so everyone knows what we're endorsing here, ImageMagick includes some pretty obtuse and generic names, such as "/usr/bin/convert", "/usr/bin/import", "/usr/bin/identify", and "/usr/bin/stream". -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From sacadmin Thu May 31 07:59:55 2007 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4VExtUk009964 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l4VEwY19010185 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 07:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.108.184]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l4VEwXNB019390 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 14:58:34 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JIW00K01UQL1700@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Torrey.McMahon@Sun.COM) for LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([69.143.10.104]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JIW00JI1UXA6777@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:58:23 -0400 From: Torrey McMahon Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-reply-to: <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Torrey.McMahon@Sun.COM To: James Carlson Cc: Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) Status: RO Content-Length: 569 James Carlson wrote: > Danek Duvall writes: > >> These interfaces were originally included in Solaris under LSARC 2002/262 >> "Printer RIP" as External interfaces. This case relocates the ImageMagick, >> a2ps, and psutils interfaces in accordance with PSARC 2007/047 "/usr/gnu" >> > > Just so everyone knows what we're endorsing here, ImageMagick includes > some pretty obtuse and generic names, such as "/usr/bin/convert", > "/usr/bin/import", "/usr/bin/identify", and "/usr/bin/stream". Like "view" or "accept"? Or my personal fave "ickey"? :) From sacadmin Thu May 31 08:07:19 2007 Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (phorcys.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.143]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4VF7Iir010649 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4VF5vF9012228; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l4VF5vRN012225; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:05:57 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:05:56 -0400 From: James Carlson To: Torrey McMahon Cc: Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-Reply-To: <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1191 Torrey McMahon writes: > James Carlson wrote: > > Danek Duvall writes: > > > >> These interfaces were originally included in Solaris under LSARC 2002/262 > >> "Printer RIP" as External interfaces. This case relocates the ImageMagick, > >> a2ps, and psutils interfaces in accordance with PSARC 2007/047 "/usr/gnu" > >> > > > > Just so everyone knows what we're endorsing here, ImageMagick includes > > some pretty obtuse and generic names, such as "/usr/bin/convert", > > "/usr/bin/import", "/usr/bin/identify", and "/usr/bin/stream". > > Like "view" or "accept"? Or my personal fave "ickey"? :) Agreed; "/usr/sbin/accept" is pretty nasty. The point of that message, though, was that 2005/185 and 2007/047 weren't a completely unrestricted license to move everything to /usr/bin. (See, in particular, section 4.2 of the 2005/185 opinion.) 'SUNWfoobar' isn't a sufficient reference to describe exactly what we're approving with this project. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From sacadmin Thu May 31 10:32:32 2007 Received: from printing.Eng.Sun.COM (printing [129.146.178.26]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4VHWV07025444 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.251.237] (punchin-jacobs.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.237]) by printing.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4VHVMg7000262; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:28:55 -0500 From: Norm Jacobs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Carlson CC: Torrey McMahon , Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> In-Reply-To: <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 41584 James Carlson wrote: > Torrey McMahon writes: > >> James Carlson wrote: >> >>> Danek Duvall writes: >>> >>> >>>> These interfaces were originally included in Solaris under LSARC 2002/262 >>>> "Printer RIP" as External interfaces. This case relocates the ImageMagick, >>>> a2ps, and psutils interfaces in accordance with PSARC 2007/047 "/usr/gnu" >>>> >>>> >>> Just so everyone knows what we're endorsing here, ImageMagick includes >>> some pretty obtuse and generic names, such as "/usr/bin/convert", >>> "/usr/bin/import", "/usr/bin/identify", and "/usr/bin/stream". >>> >> Like "view" or "accept"? Or my personal fave "ickey"? :) >> > > Agreed; "/usr/sbin/accept" is pretty nasty. > I happen to own that little gem, though it's not my original work. It's actually not that nasty. "/usr/bin/enable" and "/usr/bin/disable" are far worse because they conflict with shell built-ins in a few shells. > The point of that message, though, was that 2005/185 and 2007/047 > weren't a completely unrestricted license to move everything to > /usr/bin. (See, in particular, section 4.2 of the 2005/185 opinion.) > > 'SUNWfoobar' isn't a sufficient reference to describe exactly what > we're approving with this project. > > The exact package contents were in my original writeup, but the vast majority of it are uninteresting. I chose /usr/bin for the executables to avoid making changes to the print service and other open source bits that it uses to have them search yet another place for the pieces they use today or may in the future. Right now, the /usr/sfw/bin links that I was planning will suffice, but it would be nice if they could go the way of the dinosaur at some future date. For example, not delivered in Nevada, but required for a patch to a previous release. I'm not particularly thrilled with the prospect of placing these turds (/usr/sfw/bin links) on the system in the first place. At any rate, the carcass is below, so pick away. -Norm SUNWa2psr /etc/gnu/a2ps.cfg /etc/gnu/a2ps-site.cfg /etc/lp/fd/a2ps.fd SUNWa2psu /usr/bin/a2ps /usr/bin/card /usr/bin/composeglyphs /usr/bin/fixn /usr/bin/fixps /usr/bin/ogonkify /usr/bin/pdiff /usr/bin/psmandup /usr/bin/psse /usr/bin/texi2dvi4a2ps /usr/include/liba2ps.h /usr/lib/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo /usr/lib/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/a2ps.mo 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Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:00:56 -0400 From: "Laszlo (Laca) Peter" Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-reply-to: <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> Sender: Laszlo.Peter@sun.com To: Norm Jacobs Cc: James Carlson , Torrey McMahon , Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Reply-to: Laszlo.Peter@sun.com Message-id: <1180771256.2135.5.camel@loghost> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> Status: RO Content-Length: 4714 Shouldn't development files be packaged separately from runtime bits? Laca On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 15:28 -0500, Norm Jacobs wrote: > SUNWimagick > /usr/bin/Magick++-config > /usr/bin/Magick-config > /usr/bin/Wand-config > /usr/include/Magick++.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Blob.h > /usr/include/Magick++/CoderInfo.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Color.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Drawable.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Exception.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Geometry.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Image.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Include.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Montage.h > /usr/include/Magick++/Pixels.h > /usr/include/Magick++/STL.h > /usr/include/Magick++/TypeMetric.h > /usr/include/magick/ImageMagick.h > /usr/include/magick/MagickCore.h > /usr/include/magick/PreRvIcccm.h > /usr/include/magick/animate.h > /usr/include/magick/annotate.h > /usr/include/magick/api.h > /usr/include/magick/blob.h > /usr/include/magick/cache-view.h > /usr/include/magick/cache.h > /usr/include/magick/client.h > /usr/include/magick/coder.h > /usr/include/magick/color.h > /usr/include/magick/colorspace.h > /usr/include/magick/compare.h > /usr/include/magick/composite.h > /usr/include/magick/compress.h > /usr/include/magick/configure.h > /usr/include/magick/constitute.h > /usr/include/magick/decorate.h > /usr/include/magick/delegate.h > /usr/include/magick/deprecate.h > /usr/include/magick/display.h > /usr/include/magick/draw.h > /usr/include/magick/effect.h > /usr/include/magick/enhance.h > /usr/include/magick/exception.h > /usr/include/magick/fx.h > /usr/include/magick/gem.h > /usr/include/magick/geometry.h > /usr/include/magick/hashmap.h > /usr/include/magick/identify.h > /usr/include/magick/image.h > /usr/include/magick/layer.h > /usr/include/magick/list.h > /usr/include/magick/locale_.h > /usr/include/magick/log.h > /usr/include/magick/magic.h > /usr/include/magick/magick-config.h > /usr/include/magick/magick-type.h > /usr/include/magick/magick.h > /usr/include/magick/memory_.h > /usr/include/magick/methods.h > /usr/include/magick/mime.h > /usr/include/magick/module.h > /usr/include/magick/monitor.h > /usr/include/magick/montage.h > /usr/include/magick/option.h > /usr/include/magick/paint.h > /usr/include/magick/pixel.h > /usr/include/magick/prepress.h > /usr/include/magick/profile.h > /usr/include/magick/property.h > /usr/include/magick/quantize.h > /usr/include/magick/quantum.h > /usr/include/magick/random_.h > /usr/include/magick/registry.h > /usr/include/magick/resize.h > /usr/include/magick/resource_.h > /usr/include/magick/segment.h > /usr/include/magick/semaphore.h > /usr/include/magick/shear.h > /usr/include/magick/signature.h > /usr/include/magick/splay-tree.h > /usr/include/magick/statistic.h > /usr/include/magick/stream.h > /usr/include/magick/string_.h > /usr/include/magick/threshold.h > /usr/include/magick/timer.h > /usr/include/magick/token.h > /usr/include/magick/transform.h > /usr/include/magick/type.h > /usr/include/magick/utility.h > /usr/include/magick/version.h > /usr/include/magick/widget.h > /usr/include/magick/xml-tree.h > /usr/include/magick/xwindow.h > /usr/include/wand/MagickWand.h > /usr/include/wand/animate.h > /usr/include/wand/compare.h > /usr/include/wand/composite.h > /usr/include/wand/conjure.h > /usr/include/wand/convert.h > /usr/include/wand/deprecate.h > /usr/include/wand/display.h > /usr/include/wand/drawing-wand.h > /usr/include/wand/identify.h > /usr/include/wand/import.h > /usr/include/wand/magick-image.h > /usr/include/wand/magick-property.h > /usr/include/wand/magick-wand.h > /usr/include/wand/magick_wand.h > /usr/include/wand/mogrify.h > /usr/include/wand/montage.h > /usr/include/wand/pixel-iterator.h > /usr/include/wand/pixel-wand.h > /usr/include/wand/stream.h > /usr/include/wand/wand-config.h From sacadmin Mon Jun 4 10:32:47 2007 Received: from printing.Eng.Sun.COM (printing [129.146.178.26]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l54HWl7s029593 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.251.237] (punchin-jacobs.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.237]) by printing.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l54HVajh012946; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46647610.9070506@Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:29:04 -0500 From: Norm Jacobs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo.Peter@Sun.COM CC: James Carlson , Torrey McMahon , Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, sfw_cteam-ext@Sun.COM Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> <1180771256.2135.5.camel@loghost> In-Reply-To: <1180771256.2135.5.camel@loghost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 5314 No, there are several packages in the WOS that appear to be a combination of both runtime and 'development' bits. The direction in the SFW consolidation is to try and package all of the bits for an open source package together. At least that's my recollection of one of the semi recent SFW C-Team discussions about this topic. I am copying the SFW C-Team in the event that I misunderstood the conversation. -Norm Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: > Shouldn't development files be packaged separately from runtime bits? > > Laca > > On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 15:28 -0500, Norm Jacobs wrote: > >> SUNWimagick >> /usr/bin/Magick++-config >> /usr/bin/Magick-config >> /usr/bin/Wand-config >> /usr/include/Magick++.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Blob.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/CoderInfo.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Color.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Drawable.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Exception.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Geometry.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Image.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Include.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Montage.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/Pixels.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/STL.h >> /usr/include/Magick++/TypeMetric.h >> /usr/include/magick/ImageMagick.h >> /usr/include/magick/MagickCore.h >> /usr/include/magick/PreRvIcccm.h >> /usr/include/magick/animate.h >> /usr/include/magick/annotate.h >> /usr/include/magick/api.h >> /usr/include/magick/blob.h >> /usr/include/magick/cache-view.h >> /usr/include/magick/cache.h >> /usr/include/magick/client.h >> /usr/include/magick/coder.h >> /usr/include/magick/color.h >> /usr/include/magick/colorspace.h >> /usr/include/magick/compare.h >> /usr/include/magick/composite.h >> /usr/include/magick/compress.h >> /usr/include/magick/configure.h >> /usr/include/magick/constitute.h >> /usr/include/magick/decorate.h >> /usr/include/magick/delegate.h >> /usr/include/magick/deprecate.h >> /usr/include/magick/display.h >> /usr/include/magick/draw.h >> /usr/include/magick/effect.h >> /usr/include/magick/enhance.h >> /usr/include/magick/exception.h >> /usr/include/magick/fx.h >> /usr/include/magick/gem.h >> /usr/include/magick/geometry.h >> /usr/include/magick/hashmap.h >> /usr/include/magick/identify.h >> /usr/include/magick/image.h >> /usr/include/magick/layer.h >> /usr/include/magick/list.h >> /usr/include/magick/locale_.h >> /usr/include/magick/log.h >> /usr/include/magick/magic.h >> /usr/include/magick/magick-config.h >> /usr/include/magick/magick-type.h >> /usr/include/magick/magick.h >> /usr/include/magick/memory_.h >> /usr/include/magick/methods.h >> /usr/include/magick/mime.h >> /usr/include/magick/module.h >> /usr/include/magick/monitor.h >> /usr/include/magick/montage.h >> /usr/include/magick/option.h >> /usr/include/magick/paint.h >> /usr/include/magick/pixel.h >> /usr/include/magick/prepress.h >> /usr/include/magick/profile.h >> /usr/include/magick/property.h >> /usr/include/magick/quantize.h >> /usr/include/magick/quantum.h >> /usr/include/magick/random_.h >> /usr/include/magick/registry.h >> /usr/include/magick/resize.h >> /usr/include/magick/resource_.h >> /usr/include/magick/segment.h >> /usr/include/magick/semaphore.h >> /usr/include/magick/shear.h >> /usr/include/magick/signature.h >> /usr/include/magick/splay-tree.h >> /usr/include/magick/statistic.h >> /usr/include/magick/stream.h >> /usr/include/magick/string_.h >> /usr/include/magick/threshold.h >> /usr/include/magick/timer.h >> /usr/include/magick/token.h >> /usr/include/magick/transform.h >> /usr/include/magick/type.h >> /usr/include/magick/utility.h >> /usr/include/magick/version.h >> /usr/include/magick/widget.h >> /usr/include/magick/xml-tree.h >> /usr/include/magick/xwindow.h >> /usr/include/wand/MagickWand.h >> /usr/include/wand/animate.h >> /usr/include/wand/compare.h >> /usr/include/wand/composite.h >> /usr/include/wand/conjure.h >> /usr/include/wand/convert.h >> /usr/include/wand/deprecate.h >> /usr/include/wand/display.h >> /usr/include/wand/drawing-wand.h >> /usr/include/wand/identify.h >> /usr/include/wand/import.h >> /usr/include/wand/magick-image.h >> /usr/include/wand/magick-property.h >> /usr/include/wand/magick-wand.h >> /usr/include/wand/magick_wand.h >> /usr/include/wand/mogrify.h >> /usr/include/wand/montage.h >> /usr/include/wand/pixel-iterator.h >> /usr/include/wand/pixel-wand.h >> /usr/include/wand/stream.h >> /usr/include/wand/wand-config.h >> > > From sacadmin Mon Jun 4 10:36:33 2007 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l54HaXVn029883 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com (brmea-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l54HZ9Lj000443 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-06.sun.com ([192.18.108.180]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l54HZ9G0005762 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:35:09 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JJ400101GNO6T00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Keith.Bierman@Sun.COM) for LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.100.25] ([67.165.243.234]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JJ40012CGUKQFB0@mail-amer.sun.com>; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:35:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:35:07 -0600 From: Keith Bierman Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-reply-to: <46647610.9070506@Sun.COM> Sender: Keith.Bierman@Sun.COM To: Norm Jacobs Cc: Laszlo.Peter@Sun.COM, James Carlson , Torrey McMahon , Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, sfw_cteam-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <1345A7E1-C737-4FB2-A6C1-97714D7AF845@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> <1180771256.2135.5.camel@loghost> <46647610.9070506@Sun.COM> Status: RO Content-Length: 1703 On Jun 4, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Norm Jacobs wrote: > > No, there are several packages in the WOS that appear to be a > combination of both runtime and 'development' bits. Well, the general rule used to be to segregate use, development and documentation. Which packages deviate, and why? > The direction in the SFW consolidation is to try and package all > of the bits for an open source package together. At least that's > my recollection of one of the semi recent SFW C-Team discussions > about this topic. I am copying the SFW C-Team in the event that I > misunderstood the conversation. I suppose for GPL stuff one could argue that the right to develop is "divine" and should be shipped with the usage bits. But even that seems like an odd approach to me (I use Xemacs, but I really don't want to build it; etc.). I know disks are cheap; but they aren't free. And laptops have finite capacity. Keith H. Bierman keith.bierman@Sun.COM | khbkhb@gmail.com Sun Microsystems Microelectronics Group | sun IM: khb AIM: kbiermank 5430 Nassau Circle East | 650-352-4432 voice+fax Cherry Hills Village, CO 80113 | sun internal 68207 http://blogs.sun.com/khb | 303-997-2749 Copyright 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------ From sacadmin Mon Jun 4 12:36:14 2007 Received: from printing.Eng.Sun.COM (printing [129.146.178.26]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l54JaEOC003930 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.251.237] (punchin-jacobs.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.237]) by printing.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l54JZ3NA013161; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46649300.2060909@Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:32:32 -0500 From: Norm Jacobs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Bierman CC: Laszlo.Peter@Sun.COM, James Carlson , Torrey McMahon , Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, sfw_cteam-ext@Sun.COM Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <18014.54951.13715.705813@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465EE28F.3090605@sun.com> <18014.58452.986031.868511@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <465F3007.1040305@Sun.COM> <1180771256.2135.5.camel@loghost> <46647610.9070506@Sun.COM> <1345A7E1-C737-4FB2-A6C1-97714D7AF845@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <1345A7E1-C737-4FB2-A6C1-97714D7AF845@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 2117 Keith Bierman wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Norm Jacobs wrote: > >> >> No, there are several packages in the WOS that appear to be a >> combination of both runtime and 'development' bits. > Well, the general rule used to be to segregate use, development and > documentation. Which packages deviate, and why? A quick first glance at this on my system has the following packages with a combination of both development and runtime bits. The list is probably not complete and may contain a few packages that are really development only bits. SUNWGlib, SUNWPython-devel, SUNWapch2u, SUNWapchu, SUNWautoef, SUNWbinutils, SUNWbzip, SUNWcfcl, SUNWcpcu, SUNWctpls, SUNWdhcsu, SUNWdtrc, SUNWfmd, SUNWfontconfig, SUNWfreetype2, SUNWfwdcu, SUNWgcc, SUNWgnome-base-libs-devel, SUNWgnome-base-libs-java-devel, SUNWgnome-python-libs-devel, SUNWgnome-terminal-devel, SUNWgscr, SUNWiiimu, SUNWimac, SUNWj5dev, SUNWj6dev, SUNWlcl, SUNWlibC, SUNWlibm, SUNWllc, SUNWmfrun, SUNWmpapi, SUNWneon, SUNWpapi, SUNWperl584usr, SUNWpl5v, SUNWpool, SUNWpostgr-82-tcl, SUNWpostgr-tcl, SUNWqosu, SUNWslpu, SUNWsmbau, SUNWsndmu, SUNWsvn, SUNWtecla, SUNWtltk, SUNWtnfc, SUNWtnfd, SUNWwbmdev, SUNWwsr2, SUNWxorg-mesa, SUNWxwdxm, SUNWxwxft, SUNWzlib I'm sure that something similar applies to 'documentation' related files in 'runtime' packages in the WOS. > > >> The direction in the SFW consolidation is to try and package all of >> the bits for an open source package together. At least that's my >> recollection of one of the semi recent SFW C-Team discussions about >> this topic. I am copying the SFW C-Team in the event that I >> misunderstood the conversation. > > I suppose for GPL stuff one could argue that the right to develop is > "divine" and should be shipped with the usage bits. But even that > seems like an odd approach to me (I use Xemacs, but I really don't > want to build it; etc.). The 'development' bits that Laca was referring to aren't the source for the package. They are the bits you need to develop against the open source package. -Norm From sacadmin Tue Jun 5 11:12:12 2007 Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty [129.146.168.40]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l55ICBRk008671 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l55IAGtK004829; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0/Submit) id l55IAG1n004828; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:10:15 -0700 From: Danek Duvall To: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: norm.jacobs@sun.com Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] Message-ID: <20070605181015.GF25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r535 (SunOS) Status: RO Content-Length: 46 This case was approved at LSARC today. Danek From sacadmin Tue Jun 5 11:27:35 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l55IRZjs009138 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l55IPmXJ063693 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@Sun.COM>; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JJ600705DVL6700@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JJ600DGBDVK24C0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l55IQ5p4003265; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l55IPYj8005033; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.0+Sun/8.14.0/Submit) id l55IPY4V005026; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:25:33 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-reply-to: <5E89C07E-3C9E-4EAF-9C13-893B8D095054@sun.com> To: Keith Bierman Cc: lsarc@sun.com, norm.jacobs@sun.com Message-id: <20070605182533.GG25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <20070605181015.GF25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <5E89C07E-3C9E-4EAF-9C13-893B8D095054@sun.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r535 (SunOS) Status: RO Content-Length: 674 On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:20:23PM -0600, Keith Bierman wrote: > So the comingling of user/developers/man is now a specifically authorized > precedent? Are there any limitations or stipulations (e.g. it's that way in the > Open Community the code comes from or ??) I don't think that this case sets any precedent. Packages had already been shipping with comingled bits, including these packages, and this doesn't change that. Nor does this case explicitly set any new policy. I presume that new policy, if it will be set, will be set when we get our new packaging system, which will be a good point to re-evaluate the granularity at which we package our bits. Danek From sacadmin Tue Jun 5 11:36:37 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l55Iaave009384 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l55IZ9MP014584 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:35:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JJ60080FEAJ0K00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JJ600D8WEAJ23D0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-05.sun.com ([192.18.108.179]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l55IZ7GT002304 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JJ600301E285100@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Keith.Bierman@Sun.COM) for lsarc@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc@Sun.COM); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:35:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.100.25] ([67.165.243.234]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JJ6003SGEAILQG2@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:35:04 -0600 From: Keith Bierman Subject: Re: ImageMagick, a2ps, and psutils migration from /usr/sfw to /usr [LSARC/2007/316 FastTrack timeout 05/06/2007] In-reply-to: <20070605182533.GG25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Keith.Bierman@Sun.COM To: Danek Duvall Cc: lsarc@Sun.COM, Norm.Jacobs@Sun.COM Message-id: <3FA788F6-7C51-497D-9085-1D828FB9B810@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <200705302200.l4UM07KW023778@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <20070605181015.GF25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <5E89C07E-3C9E-4EAF-9C13-893B8D095054@sun.com> <20070605182533.GG25472@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1741 On Jun 5, 2007, at 12:25 PM, Danek Duvall wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:20:23PM -0600, Keith Bierman wrote: > >> So the commingling of user/developers/man is now a specifically >> authorized >> precedent? Are there any limitations or stipulations (e.g. it's >> that way in the >> Open Community the code comes from or ??) > > I don't think that this case sets any precedent. Packages had > already been > shipping with commingled bits, including these packages, and this > doesn't > change that. Nor does this case explicitly set any new policy. Aside from the packages norm posted which were clearly inherently developer bits, it looked like botches to me. But I didn't chase down all the ARC cases. For several, I don't think there were cases. Given that the issue was raised, I think this case should have established (or clarified) the precedent. If no case has, it's just a series of blunders and not a conscious architected act. Keith H. Bierman keith.bierman@Sun.COM | khbkhb@gmail.com Sun Microsystems Microelectronics Group | sun IM: khb AIM: kbiermank 5430 Nassau Circle East | 650-352-4432 voice+fax Cherry Hills Village, CO 80113 | sun internal 68207 http://blogs.sun.com/khb | 303-997-2749 Copyright 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------