From Lloyd.Chambers@sun.com Mon Feb 25 11:12:01 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PJBuXh020855 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PJBpNj050947 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT00A096NRP200@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:11:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT00HY36NI2BC0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:11:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1PJBg77029400 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWT00G015ZUDT00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (llc4.com [208.65.183.162]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWT00MNU6NH5N20@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:11:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:11:41 -0800 From: Lloyd L Chambers Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> Sender: Lloyd.Chambers@sun.com To: John Downing Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B28733.401@sun.com> <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 6018 John, Usually one obtains a sponsor for a FastTrack in advance, by mutual agreement. I'll raise this case at LSARC business tomorrow. If it has no objections, we'll approve it (assuming ARC members have read it). I'm not a Solaris guy, maybe another LSARC member can chime in here on the namespace/package name issue. Lloyd On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:55 AM, John Downing wrote: > Lloyd: > > The case owner/sponsor has not been assigned to me. Can I do that > or does someone else > need to do it? Also I'm not sure if there was something I needed to > do make this a FastTrack > review. I've read documentation saying that I need and ARC member > to be the sponsor but > I do not have that. > > And do I need to reserve namespace for the package? I currently > have it named SUNWlibao. > > I agree about the HTML files but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a > problem. They are currently > being included in the package in /usr/gnu/share/doc/libao-0.8.8. > > Thanks > > John > >> John, >> >> Your case is LSARC/2008/076 eg http://sac.eng/arc/LSARC/2008/076/ >> >> Was a case owner/sponsor ever assigned to you? There is none >> listed in the IAM file. >> >> I don't know why it didn't show up for last week's meeting; we >> discussed all open FastTracks at that time and our meeting notes do >> not mention the case. >> >> There has been no discussion of this case in email. I will raise >> the case during ARC business this coming Tuesday 2/28. As there has >> been no discussion, I expect we will approve it. >> >> Regarding HTML files, IMO they should be included. >> >> Lloyd >> >> On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, John Downing wrote: >> >>> John: >>> >>> I am wondering if there is anything I need to do make sure this >>> process is continuing. I have >>> not heard from the LSARC chair and I am don't if I have completed >>> all of my obligations for >>> the case. >>> >>> Also my manager has mentioned that after the case's expiration >>> date that the case is approved >>> by default. Do you know anything about that? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> John Downing >>> >>>> This level of detail and discussion should be had with an ARC >>>> sponsor >>>> (see list of licensees, interns and members on the LSARC page), >>>> and not with myself or Aarti, who, while experienced, knowledgeable >>>> and all 'round great people :-), are really the support staff for >>>> the >>>> ARCs themselves. >>>> >>>> I've Cc:'d the LSARC chair, who can step in and help... >>>> >>>> -John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc wrote: >>>>> I believe that what I'm doing is very simple, given that 1) is >>>>> true. I have an >>>>> sfwnv child and I have taken the libao zip file and put it under >>>>> usr/src/lib >>>>> similar to a other open source libraries in sfw. I unzips, >>>>> configures, compiles >>>>> like all other gnu libraries, does it again for 64-bit, copies >>>>> into the proto area >>>>> and makes a package, SUNWlibao, which installs libraries, header >>>>> files and >>>>> documentation under /usr/gnu. I have included prototype files >>>>> for your >>>>> inspection. >>>>> >>>>> Another question I have are about the package itself - should it >>>>> include the >>>>> html style documentation in addition to the man pages. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> John Downing >>>>>> There are two "things" that can be reviewed in an open source >>>>>> project: >>>>>> 1) the content of the project itself, and >>>>>> 2) the way you are going to integrate the project into Solaris. >>>>>> >>>>>> We /assume/ that the FOSS community does #1 by itself just >>>>>> fine :-), >>>>>> so the ARC focus is on #2 - the actions /you/ are going to take >>>>>> to >>>>>> transplant this thing into Solaris, and how well it will fit once >>>>>> there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Inception and commitmwnt reviews may be appropriate depending on >>>>>> the complexity and impact of the integration. If you are simply >>>>>> adding another text editor, things might be very trivial; >>>>>> however, >>>>>> if you are adding an admin utility that touches on security (root >>>>>> privs...), configuration (zones, fma, smf) or installation (pkgs, >>>>>> zones, upgrade...), it will be more difficult. >>>>>> >>>>>> For some stuff, it is OK to follow the "linux lead"; for others, >>>>>> we need to make sure the solaris way of doing things isn't >>>>>> obscured. >>>>>> That's one of the things an arc inception review tries to >>>>>> figure out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Aarti Pai wrote: >>>>>>> John Downing wrote: >>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have read through the materials concerning my LSARC case >>>>>>>> and I have two questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. How do I determine if I need a review or not? The email >>>>>>>> you sent me made it sound >>>>>>>> optional but I could find no guidelines on how to determine >>>>>>>> if one is needed. >>>>>>> There are 3 types of reviews: Self Review, Fast-track, and >>>>>>> Standard review. Guidelines for each of these are >>>>>>> available on the sac website: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ >>>>>>> Self Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-SelfReview.html >>>>>>> Fast-track: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-FastTrack.html >>>>>>> Standard Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-Review.html >>>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you still have questions after >>>>>>> reviewing the guidelines. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Since this is a library which comes from the Open Source >>>>>>>> community, I would think that >>>>>>>> an inception review is not needed. Is this true? >>>>>>> We are now holding open meetings and making the ARC process / >>>>>>> cases available to OpenSolaris / >>>>>>> open source community. I've Cc'd John to help with this >>>>>>> specific question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --- >> Lloyd L Chambers >> lloyd.chambers@sun.com >> Sun Microsystems, Inc >> >> >> > --- Lloyd L Chambers lloyd.chambers@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc From danek.duvall@sun.com Mon Feb 25 11:39:04 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PJd3ts021646 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PJcsFn014987 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:39:01 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT00I017WZ2Q00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT002V17WZSR80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PJcxJW031433; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1PJcw6L016711; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1PJcwDN016710; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:58 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: To: Lloyd L Chambers Cc: John Downing , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20080225193858.GF9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B28733.401@sun.com> <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1033 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11:41AM -0800, Lloyd L Chambers wrote: > I'll raise this case at LSARC business tomorrow. If it has no > objections, we'll approve it (assuming ARC members have read it). This is the first I've seen of this case, and given that there's no interface table in the one-pager, then I don't think it'll be ready for approval tomorrow. > I'm not a Solaris guy, maybe another LSARC member can chime in here on > the namespace/package name issue. This isn't brought up in the one-pager; is it part of the email trail you copied in this message? Because the project started by sending a one-pager to the one-pager alias and no one participating in The List triage suggested that it should be other than a full case, it's a full case, waiting for an owner. I don't know why it didn't come up at an LSARC meeting as needing an owner, but it does show up on the LSARC web page as such (along with a few others that I don't think we've discussed). Have we been skipping part of business by accident? Danek From jyri@buye.red.iplanet.com Mon Feb 25 11:52:44 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PJqio9022134 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PJqbRH015932; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:52:41 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT00D018JRK800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:52:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com ([192.18.65.224]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT00DBS8JQ9E00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:52:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1PJqclp007964; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jyri@localhost) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) id m1PJqcUX007963; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:52:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:52:38 -0800 From: Jyri Virkki Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: To: Lloyd L Chambers Cc: John Downing , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20080225195238.GB7744@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B28733.401@sun.com> <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Status: RO Content-Length: 586 Lloyd L Chambers wrote: > > I'll raise this case at LSARC business tomorrow. If it has no > objections, we'll approve it (assuming ARC members have read it). I'm looking at /net/sac/export/sac/arc/LSARC/2008/076 and there's nothing there. There is an empty inception.materials directory and in the mail log Lloyd's email above is the first and only one. So this case never been announced, the status in "submitted" (not even a timer set yet) and no materials have been provided yet. Certainly not ready for approval... -- Jyri J. Virkki - jyri.virkki@sun.com - Sun Microsystems From tom.childers@sun.com Mon Feb 25 13:18:07 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PLI6j7026714 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PLI4t5021136 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:18:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT0041ZCI5UN00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT002RKCI5STE0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1PLI4X6027807 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWT00K01CD8E400@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from tom.childers@sun.com) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.15.2] ([208.106.111.5]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWT0073UCI1T3F0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:15:53 -0800 From: Tom Childers Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: Sender: Thomas.Childers@sun.com To: John Downing Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <15866F86-E783-487D-BC82-44DB6F5A5DD9@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B28733.401@sun.com> <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 7432 Lloyd and John, I've read the materials (the one-pager), and will not be able to attend our meeting tomorrow, so here are items that need resolution before I can approve this case. Obviously, these items would have been resolved if the case had an owner :-) tdc01 - no interfaces declared, no 20Q document. There is just the one-pager. Please submit materials for the case that provide interfaces. Specifically, does this rely on the drivers for the supported devices? Does it rely on any other existing library or OSS project? I'm assuming (but not entirely sure) that the packaging and delivery info is implicitly stated when I see that this is being released as part of Nevada. tdc02 - one-pager specifies a standard review, not a fast-track. tdc03 - Is it delivered for both SPARC and x86? tdc04 - Does it have a man page tdc05 - Are there licensing issues? This may be a nit, but I had to read the entire one-pager to infer that (1) this is an open source project, and (2) it's a part of Nevada. I wish there was some way that we stated the basics like this up front. -tdc On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Lloyd L Chambers wrote: > John, > > Usually one obtains a sponsor for a FastTrack in advance, by mutual > agreement. > > I'll raise this case at LSARC business tomorrow. If it has no > objections, we'll approve it (assuming ARC members have read it). > > I'm not a Solaris guy, maybe another LSARC member can chime in here > on the namespace/package name issue. > > Lloyd > > On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:55 AM, John Downing wrote: > >> Lloyd: >> >> The case owner/sponsor has not been assigned to me. Can I do that >> or does someone else >> need to do it? Also I'm not sure if there was something I needed >> to do make this a FastTrack >> review. I've read documentation saying that I need and ARC member >> to be the sponsor but >> I do not have that. >> >> And do I need to reserve namespace for the package? I currently >> have it named SUNWlibao. >> >> I agree about the HTML files but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a >> problem. They are currently >> being included in the package in /usr/gnu/share/doc/libao-0.8.8. >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> >>> John, >>> >>> Your case is LSARC/2008/076 eg http://sac.eng/arc/LSARC/2008/076/ >>> >>> Was a case owner/sponsor ever assigned to you? There is none >>> listed in the IAM file. >>> >>> I don't know why it didn't show up for last week's meeting; we >>> discussed all open FastTracks at that time and our meeting notes >>> do not mention the case. >>> >>> There has been no discussion of this case in email. I will raise >>> the case during ARC business this coming Tuesday 2/28. As there >>> has been no discussion, I expect we will approve it. >>> >>> Regarding HTML files, IMO they should be included. >>> >>> Lloyd >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, John Downing wrote: >>> >>>> John: >>>> >>>> I am wondering if there is anything I need to do make sure this >>>> process is continuing. I have >>>> not heard from the LSARC chair and I am don't if I have >>>> completed all of my obligations for >>>> the case. >>>> >>>> Also my manager has mentioned that after the case's expiration >>>> date that the case is approved >>>> by default. Do you know anything about that? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> John Downing >>>> >>>>> This level of detail and discussion should be had with an ARC >>>>> sponsor >>>>> (see list of licensees, interns and members on the LSARC page), >>>>> and not with myself or Aarti, who, while experienced, >>>>> knowledgeable >>>>> and all 'round great people :-), are really the support staff >>>>> for the >>>>> ARCs themselves. >>>>> >>>>> I've Cc:'d the LSARC chair, who can step in and help... >>>>> >>>>> -John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc wrote: >>>>>> I believe that what I'm doing is very simple, given that 1) is >>>>>> true. I have an >>>>>> sfwnv child and I have taken the libao zip file and put it >>>>>> under usr/src/lib >>>>>> similar to a other open source libraries in sfw. I unzips, >>>>>> configures, compiles >>>>>> like all other gnu libraries, does it again for 64-bit, copies >>>>>> into the proto area >>>>>> and makes a package, SUNWlibao, which installs libraries, >>>>>> header files and >>>>>> documentation under /usr/gnu. I have included prototype files >>>>>> for your >>>>>> inspection. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another question I have are about the package itself - should >>>>>> it include the >>>>>> html style documentation in addition to the man pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> John Downing >>>>>>> There are two "things" that can be reviewed in an open source >>>>>>> project: >>>>>>> 1) the content of the project itself, and >>>>>>> 2) the way you are going to integrate the project into Solaris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We /assume/ that the FOSS community does #1 by itself just >>>>>>> fine :-), >>>>>>> so the ARC focus is on #2 - the actions /you/ are going to >>>>>>> take to >>>>>>> transplant this thing into Solaris, and how well it will fit >>>>>>> once >>>>>>> there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Inception and commitmwnt reviews may be appropriate depending on >>>>>>> the complexity and impact of the integration. If you are simply >>>>>>> adding another text editor, things might be very trivial; >>>>>>> however, >>>>>>> if you are adding an admin utility that touches on security >>>>>>> (root >>>>>>> privs...), configuration (zones, fma, smf) or installation >>>>>>> (pkgs, >>>>>>> zones, upgrade...), it will be more difficult. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For some stuff, it is OK to follow the "linux lead"; for others, >>>>>>> we need to make sure the solaris way of doing things isn't >>>>>>> obscured. >>>>>>> That's one of the things an arc inception review tries to >>>>>>> figure out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aarti Pai wrote: >>>>>>>> John Downing wrote: >>>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have read through the materials concerning my LSARC case >>>>>>>>> and I have two questions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. How do I determine if I need a review or not? The >>>>>>>>> email you sent me made it sound >>>>>>>>> optional but I could find no guidelines on how to determine >>>>>>>>> if one is needed. >>>>>>>> There are 3 types of reviews: Self Review, Fast-track, and >>>>>>>> Standard review. Guidelines for each of these are >>>>>>>> available on the sac website: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ >>>>>>>> Self Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-SelfReview.html >>>>>>>> Fast-track: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-FastTrack.html >>>>>>>> Standard Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-Review.html >>>>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you still have questions after >>>>>>>> reviewing the guidelines. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Since this is a library which comes from the Open >>>>>>>>> Source community, I would think that >>>>>>>>> an inception review is not needed. Is this true? >>>>>>>> We are now holding open meetings and making the ARC >>>>>>>> process / cases available to OpenSolaris / >>>>>>>> open source community. I've Cc'd John to help with this >>>>>>>> specific question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> Lloyd L Chambers >>> lloyd.chambers@sun.com >>> Sun Microsystems, Inc >>> >>> >>> >> > > --- > Lloyd L Chambers > lloyd.chambers@sun.com > Sun Microsystems, Inc > > > From John.Downing@sun.com Mon Feb 25 14:13:52 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PMDqrV029528 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PMDpIZ034943 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:13:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT00A0LF33CC00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT007I4F32YK30@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1PMDogf005770 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWT00I01F1V9P00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Downing@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.116.110] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWT00KRPF2VQU80@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:09:14 -0800 From: John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: <15866F86-E783-487D-BC82-44DB6F5A5DD9@sun.com> Sender: John.Downing@sun.com To: Tom Childers Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47C33C8A.9080905@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MSEPvoU8RW3D4tb2ALO2dA)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B28733.401@sun.com> <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> <15866F86-E783-487D-BC82-44DB6F5A5DD9@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070724) Status: RO Content-Length: 12124 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_MSEPvoU8RW3D4tb2ALO2dA) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Tom, Jyri and Danek: Thank you for your attention to my case. It was a mistake on my part to not make it Fast Track, but that is done. Probably I should be the owner, but I don't know how to affect that change. Also I would like to start a 20Q document but I cannot create documents in /shared/sac/LSARC/2008/076, and the same is true for the interface table. And is there a template for the interface table? Answers to some of Tom's questions in-lined below. > Lloyd and John, > > I've read the materials (the one-pager), and will not be able to > attend our meeting tomorrow, so here are items that need resolution > before I can approve this case. Obviously, these items would have > been resolved if the case had an owner :-) > > tdc01 - no interfaces declared, no 20Q document. There is just the > one-pager. Please submit materials for the case that provide > interfaces. Specifically, does this rely on the drivers for the > supported devices? Does it rely on any other existing library or OSS > project? It relies only on Solaris audio drivers because it is intended to be used with /dev/audio. As such it will work with whatever audio device that /dev/audio points to. It does not rely on any other existing library or OSS project. > > I'm assuming (but not entirely sure) that the packaging and delivery > info is implicitly stated when I see that this is being released as > part of Nevada. It is intended for release in Project Indiana and that is happening by first releasing in Nevada and letting it propagate into Indiana from there. > > tdc02 - one-pager specifies a standard review, not a fast-track. Oppps... > > tdc03 - Is it delivered for both SPARC and x86? Yes. It is an Open Source package and can be compiled on both so I have created prototypes for both types of architectures and I have created 32 and 64 bit versions for both as well. > > tdc04 - Does it have a man page Yes, and it also has html documentation which I am including in the packages as well. > > tdc05 - Are there licensing issues? No. It is under GPL 2 and I have already gotten and Open Source Review done. Please see the enclosed email. > > This may be a nit, but I had to read the entire one-pager to infer > that (1) this is an open source project, and (2) it's a part of > Nevada. I wish there was some way that we stated the basics like this > up front. I agree with you and I will change the one-pager if you'd like. Thanks John > -tdc > > > On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Lloyd L Chambers wrote: > >> John, >> >> Usually one obtains a sponsor for a FastTrack in advance, by mutual >> agreement. >> >> I'll raise this case at LSARC business tomorrow. If it has no >> objections, we'll approve it (assuming ARC members have read it). >> >> I'm not a Solaris guy, maybe another LSARC member can chime in here >> on the namespace/package name issue. >> >> Lloyd >> >> On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:55 AM, John Downing wrote: >> >>> Lloyd: >>> >>> The case owner/sponsor has not been assigned to me. Can I do that >>> or does someone else >>> need to do it? Also I'm not sure if there was something I needed to >>> do make this a FastTrack >>> review. I've read documentation saying that I need and ARC member >>> to be the sponsor but >>> I do not have that. >>> >>> And do I need to reserve namespace for the package? I currently >>> have it named SUNWlibao. >>> >>> I agree about the HTML files but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a >>> problem. They are currently >>> being included in the package in /usr/gnu/share/doc/libao-0.8.8. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> John >>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Your case is LSARC/2008/076 eg http://sac.eng/arc/LSARC/2008/076/ >>>> >>>> Was a case owner/sponsor ever assigned to you? There is none >>>> listed in the IAM file. >>>> >>>> I don't know why it didn't show up for last week's meeting; we >>>> discussed all open FastTracks at that time and our meeting notes do >>>> not mention the case. >>>> >>>> There has been no discussion of this case in email. I will raise >>>> the case during ARC business this coming Tuesday 2/28. As there has >>>> been no discussion, I expect we will approve it. >>>> >>>> Regarding HTML files, IMO they should be included. >>>> >>>> Lloyd >>>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, John Downing wrote: >>>> >>>>> John: >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering if there is anything I need to do make sure this >>>>> process is continuing. I have >>>>> not heard from the LSARC chair and I am don't if I have completed >>>>> all of my obligations for >>>>> the case. >>>>> >>>>> Also my manager has mentioned that after the case's expiration >>>>> date that the case is approved >>>>> by default. Do you know anything about that? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> John Downing >>>>> >>>>>> This level of detail and discussion should be had with an ARC >>>>>> sponsor >>>>>> (see list of licensees, interns and members on the LSARC page), >>>>>> and not with myself or Aarti, who, while experienced, knowledgeable >>>>>> and all 'round great people :-), are really the support staff for >>>>>> the >>>>>> ARCs themselves. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've Cc:'d the LSARC chair, who can step in and help... >>>>>> >>>>>> -John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc wrote: >>>>>>> I believe that what I'm doing is very simple, given that 1) is >>>>>>> true. I have an >>>>>>> sfwnv child and I have taken the libao zip file and put it under >>>>>>> usr/src/lib >>>>>>> similar to a other open source libraries in sfw. I unzips, >>>>>>> configures, compiles >>>>>>> like all other gnu libraries, does it again for 64-bit, copies >>>>>>> into the proto area >>>>>>> and makes a package, SUNWlibao, which installs libraries, header >>>>>>> files and >>>>>>> documentation under /usr/gnu. I have included prototype files >>>>>>> for your >>>>>>> inspection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another question I have are about the package itself - should it >>>>>>> include the >>>>>>> html style documentation in addition to the man pages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Downing >>>>>>>> There are two "things" that can be reviewed in an open source >>>>>>>> project: >>>>>>>> 1) the content of the project itself, and >>>>>>>> 2) the way you are going to integrate the project into Solaris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We /assume/ that the FOSS community does #1 by itself just fine >>>>>>>> :-), >>>>>>>> so the ARC focus is on #2 - the actions /you/ are going to take to >>>>>>>> transplant this thing into Solaris, and how well it will fit once >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Inception and commitmwnt reviews may be appropriate depending on >>>>>>>> the complexity and impact of the integration. If you are simply >>>>>>>> adding another text editor, things might be very trivial; however, >>>>>>>> if you are adding an admin utility that touches on security (root >>>>>>>> privs...), configuration (zones, fma, smf) or installation (pkgs, >>>>>>>> zones, upgrade...), it will be more difficult. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For some stuff, it is OK to follow the "linux lead"; for others, >>>>>>>> we need to make sure the solaris way of doing things isn't >>>>>>>> obscured. >>>>>>>> That's one of the things an arc inception review tries to >>>>>>>> figure out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aarti Pai wrote: >>>>>>>>> John Downing wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have read through the materials concerning my LSARC case >>>>>>>>>> and I have two questions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. How do I determine if I need a review or not? The email >>>>>>>>>> you sent me made it sound >>>>>>>>>> optional but I could find no guidelines on how to determine >>>>>>>>>> if one is needed. >>>>>>>>> There are 3 types of reviews: Self Review, Fast-track, and >>>>>>>>> Standard review. Guidelines for each of these are >>>>>>>>> available on the sac website: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ >>>>>>>>> Self Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-SelfReview.html >>>>>>>>> Fast-track: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-FastTrack.html >>>>>>>>> Standard Review: http://sac.sfbay/arc/ARC-Review.html >>>>>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you still have questions after >>>>>>>>> reviewing the guidelines. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Since this is a library which comes from the Open Source >>>>>>>>>> community, I would think that >>>>>>>>>> an inception review is not needed. Is this true? >>>>>>>>> We are now holding open meetings and making the ARC process / >>>>>>>>> cases available to OpenSolaris / >>>>>>>>> open source community. 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To view further details of this review please go to https://opensourcereview.central.sun.com/app?action=ViewReq&traq_num=8028 Any comments or questions about the OSR tool should be directed to opensourcereview@sun.com. -------------------------------------------------------------- Review #: 8028 Review Type: Full Technology Name: libao Technology Version: 0.8.8 Technology License: GNU General Public License v. 2.0 (GPLv2) Intended Use: Distribution outside of Sun: Included as part of a Sun product: Solaris v.nevada --Boundary_(ID_MSEPvoU8RW3D4tb2ALO2dA)-- From danek.duvall@sun.com Mon Feb 25 14:34:15 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1PMYFet000684 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PMYBYJ022208; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWT00207G12ZW00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:34:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWT000SWG11JX10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:34:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1PMYDMY028066; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1PMYDIO018686; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1PMYCvw018685; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:34:12 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/076 In-reply-to: <47C33C8A.9080905@sun.com> To: John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc Cc: Tom Childers , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20080225223412.GN9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B3238F.9080205@Sun.com> <47B328A0.7070602@Sun.Com> <47B335F8.2080404@sun.com> <47B3398F.3000605@Sun.Com> <47BDC7DE.20605@sun.com> <8B340C1E-2AFB-4601-86BE-5202D3BC85EE@sun.com> <47BF28BD.9020303@sun.com> <15866F86-E783-487D-BC82-44DB6F5A5DD9@sun.com> <47C33C8A.9080905@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 843 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:09:14PM -0800, John R Downing - Sun Microsystems Inc wrote: > It was a mistake on my part to not make it Fast Track, but that is done. It can be undone. You simply need to find a sponsor, who can then convert it for you, collect and send out the materials (whatever materials you and the sponsor deem necessary), and start the timer on the case. I would guess that adding an interface table to the text of your one pager is likely sufficient, or close to it. I wouldn't get started on answering the 20Q doc, as that's pretty huge (though you can find an interface table template there, as question 9). I'd suggest Margot Miller as a sponsor, given that she's worked on OSS in the past and that she works for the same director you do. Failing that, I can take the case, given that I also work for Andy. Danek From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 10:22:27 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27IMRwu011233 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27IMOL0049306; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:22:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD00G07HPCO600@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.59]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD00A64HPAI6E0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.7.251.149] (punchin-client-10-7-251-149.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.149]) by jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27IMJD7225535; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:22:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:05:58 -0800 From: Margot Miller Subject: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] To: lsarc@sun.com Cc: John Downing , Margot Miller Message-id: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (X11/20070115) Status: RO Content-Length: 3652 I am sponsoring this fast track for John Downing to timeout 3/15/2008. Requesting a release minor binding. Thanks Margot ************* 1. Background This project proposes to integrate libao, a freeware cross platform audio library. It allows programs to output audio using a simple API on a variety of platforms. For Solaris it will support the Sun audio system (/dev/audio) and esd or the Enlightened Sound Daemon through use of a plug-in library. There are a fair number of both audio file formats and audio devices which can be difficult to program. Libao allows the developer to write a single program and compile it on a variety of platforms and have the program work which whatever native hardware is on the platform. 2. Architecture Libao is a typical freeware source code distribution which contains a configuration script which is used to build the libraries for both SPARC and x86, in both 32 and 64 versions. These will be packaged in the SunFreeware consolodation under the name SUNWlibao. Libao's API allows programs to output PCM audio data to a variety of both native audio devices and file formats. It provides a way to easily add cross-platform audio output to your program. Output devices are implemented as dynamic plugins, and support OSS, ESD, ALSA, aRTs, NAS, Solaris, AIX, and Irix outputs. File formats support are WAV, AU and raw. For Solaris the output devices which will be supported are /dev/audio and EsounD. For Solaris, three libraries will be delivered and placed under the /usr/lib directory space. libao.so.2.1.3 is the generic library and libsun.so and libesd.so are the plugin drivers. Plugins are drivers that are loaded dynamically when libao is first initialized by the client application. Drivers that are operating system dependent, like the oss and sun drivers, or that depend on external libraries, like the esd driver, are implemented in this way. The libao API makes a distinction between drivers and devices. A driver is a set of functions that allow audio to be played on a particular platform (i.e. Solaris, ESD, etc.). A device is a particular output target that uses a driver. In addition, libao distinguishes between live output drivers, which write audio to playback devices (sound cards, etc.), and file output drivers, which write audio to disk in a particular format. PCM stands for pulse code modulation. In the context of audio coding PCM encodes an audio waveform in the time domain as a series of amplitudes. 3. Exported Interfaces SUNWlibao Uncommitted Package name /usr/lib/libao.so.2.1.3 Committed Library /usr/lib/ao/plugin2-2 Uncommitted Plugin Directory /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libsun.so Uncommitted Plugin /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libesd.so Uncommitted Plugin /usr/share/man/man5/libao.conf.5 Committed Man Page /usr/share/doc/libao-0.8.8/* Committed HTML Documents /etc/libao.conf Uncommitted Configuration File ~/.libao Uncommitted Configuration File 4. References [1] http://www.xiph.org/ao/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCM From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 11:14:25 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27JEPbV012065 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27JEOsL007720 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD00I03K40ZR00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD00HNUK40N530@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27JEOml008823; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27JEOYS012119; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m27JENLS012118; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:14:23 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] In-reply-to: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> To: Margot Miller Cc: lsarc@sun.com, John Downing Message-id: <20080307191423.GU9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1437 > 3. Exported Interfaces > > /usr/lib/libao.so.2.1.3 Committed Library What's the SONAME of the library? > /usr/lib/ao/plugin2-2 Uncommitted Plugin Directory > > /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libsun.so > Uncommitted Plugin > > /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libesd.so > Uncommitted Plugin Presumably the interesting interfaces here are "sun" and "esd", as names that would be used as values to the "default_driver" key in libao.conf, right? How libao maps those names to plugins on disk somewhere is an internal implementation detail, no? Or do we expect other teams to install plugins here, too, in which case the pattern for doing so is another interface of interest? > /usr/share/man/man5/libao.conf.5 > Committed Man Page > > /usr/share/doc/libao-0.8.8/* > Committed HTML Documents I don't think the documentation is actually an interface. In particular, I wouldn't commit to something with that specific a version number. > /etc/libao.conf Uncommitted Configuration File > ~/.libao Uncommitted Configuration File Will the configuration file be required by default, or will the library be built to use the "sun" driver, or whichever is most appropriate? Thanks, Danek From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 11:50:28 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27JoRcn012414 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27JoKAW023876; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:50:23 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD00C01LRY5600@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:50:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.59]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD000ABLRX0Z90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:50:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.7.251.149] (punchin-client-10-7-251-149.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.149]) by jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27JoKK0239844; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:50:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:33:59 -0800 From: Margot Miller Subject: Re: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] In-reply-to: <20080307191423.GU9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> To: Danek Duvall Cc: lsarc@sun.com, John Downing Message-id: <47D198A7.3010106@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> <20080307191423.GU9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (X11/20070115) Status: RO Content-Length: 1882 Comments embedded. Danek Duvall wrote: >> 3. Exported Interfaces >> >> /usr/lib/libao.so.2.1.3 Committed Library >> > > What's the SONAME of the library? > I will answer this in another email. > >> /usr/lib/ao/plugin2-2 Uncommitted Plugin Directory >> >> /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libsun.so >> Uncommitted Plugin >> >> /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libesd.so >> Uncommitted Plugin >> > > Presumably the interesting interfaces here are "sun" and "esd", as names > that would be used as values to the "default_driver" key in libao.conf, > right? How libao maps those names to plugins on disk somewhere is an > internal implementation detail, no? Or do we expect other teams to install > plugins here, too, in which case the pattern for doing so is another > interface of interest? > Yes, people can write plugins and put them in this directory. > >> /usr/share/man/man5/libao.conf.5 >> Committed Man Page >> >> /usr/share/doc/libao-0.8.8/* >> Committed HTML Documents >> > > I don't think the documentation is actually an interface. In particular, I > wouldn't commit to something with that specific a version number. > I'll move them out of the interface table. > >> /etc/libao.conf Uncommitted Configuration File >> ~/.libao Uncommitted Configuration File >> > > Will the configuration file be required by default, or will the library be > built to use the "sun" driver, or whichever is most appropriate? > I don't know that; John will answer that. It would make sense for now to have it populated with default_driver=sun. But I don't know. Margot > Thanks, > Danek > From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 12:32:48 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27KWmnx014904 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27KWlUA025786 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD0020JNQNF000@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD00MIWNQMG020@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m27KWkUg016248 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JXD00301NM58600@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.145.154.112] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JXD001G6NQBDU20@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:32:35 -0800 From: Mike Oliver Subject: Re: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] In-reply-to: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> Sender: Mike.Oliver@sun.com To: Margot Miller Cc: lsarc@sun.com, John Downing Message-id: <47D1A663.9090205@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (X11/20080304) Status: RO Content-Length: 614 Margot Miller wrote: > I am sponsoring this fast track for John Downing to timeout 3/15/2008. > Requesting a release minor binding. > > Thanks > Margot > > ************* > > 1. Background > > This project proposes to integrate libao, a freeware cross platform > audio library. It allows programs to output audio using a simple > API > on a variety of platforms. For Solaris it will support the Sun > audio > system (/dev/audio) ... Does this SADA support honour the use of the $AUDIODEV environment variable to select a target audio device node? Mike. -- mike.oliver@sun.com From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 14:30:53 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27MUra2017562 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27MUq39024838 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD0010RT7GJB00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:30:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD00LY8T7CZB40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:30:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m27MUm17029902 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JXD00701T2WS100@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Downing@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.36.4] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JXD00E36T729080@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:30:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:30:41 -0800 From: John Downing Subject: Re: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] In-reply-to: <47D198A7.3010106@sun.com> Sender: John.Downing@sun.com To: Margot Miller Cc: Danek Duvall , lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <47D1C211.5010108@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> <20080307191423.GU9130@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47D198A7.3010106@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) Status: RO Content-Length: 1040 More comments embedded... > Comments embedded. > > Danek Duvall wrote: >>> 3. Exported Interfaces >>> >>> /usr/lib/libao.so.2.1.3 Committed Library >>> >> >> What's the SONAME of the library? >> > I will answer this in another email. /usr/lib/libao.so.2 which of course is a link to the above file. >> >> >>> /etc/libao.conf Uncommitted Configuration File >>> ~/.libao Uncommitted Configuration File >>> >> >> Will the configuration file be required by default, or will the >> library be >> built to use the "sun" driver, or whichever is most appropriate? >> > I don't know that; John will answer that. It would make sense for now to > have it populated with default_driver=sun. But I don't know. The configuration is not required by default because the initialization process will pick out the default_driver is no configuration file is available. The sun default driver is sun which is the "short name" for /dev/audio. Thanks John From sacadmin Fri Mar 7 15:16:06 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m27NG6oO018920 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m27NG4KT064593 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc@sun.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:16:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXD0060PVATFS00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXD00136VATH370@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m27NG5qw020387 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JXD00H01V3WR600@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Downing@Sun.COM) for lsarc@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc@sun.com); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.36.4] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JXD008I6VAQX7E0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:05 -0800 From: John Downing Subject: Re: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] In-reply-to: <47D1A663.9090205@sun.com> Sender: John.Downing@sun.com To: Mike Oliver Cc: Margot Miller , lsarc@sun.com Message-id: <47D1CCB5.6010302@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47D18406.7020803@sun.com> <47D1A663.9090205@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) Status: RO Content-Length: 873 Mike Oliver wrote: > Margot Miller wrote: >> I am sponsoring this fast track for John Downing to timeout 3/15/2008. >> Requesting a release minor binding. >> >> Thanks >> Margot >> >> ************* >> >> 1. Background >> >> This project proposes to integrate libao, a freeware cross >> platform >> audio library. It allows programs to output audio using a >> simple API >> on a variety of platforms. For Solaris it will support the >> Sun audio >> system (/dev/audio) ... > > Does this SADA support honour the use of the $AUDIODEV environment > variable to select a target audio device node? The $AUDIODEV environment variable is not honored in the sense that it will not be looked for as the default audio device during initialization. It will possible to choose the device pointed to by $AUDIODEV when programming using the API. John From sacadmin Sun Mar 16 21:51:29 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2H4pTdX028862 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m2H4pSvb013496; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JXU0010LYTS6N00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.59]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JXU00DHDYTRIE90@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.251.149] (punchin-client-10-7-251-149.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.7.251.149]) by jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2H4pPRB270691; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:34:52 -0700 From: Margot Miller Subject: libao: a cross platform audio library [LSARC/2008/076 FastTrack timeout 03/15/2008] To: lsarc@sun.com Cc: John Downing Message-id: <47DDF4EC.6060308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (X11/20070115) Status: RO Content-Length: 69 This case has timed out and now is closed approved. Thanks, Margot