From sacadmin Thu Feb 14 14:34:15 2008 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1EMYFjZ007806; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from johnf@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m1EMYFBo007802; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:34:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:34:15 -0800 (PST) From: John Fischer Message-Id: <200802142234.m1EMYFBo007802@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: LSARC-record@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: chris.wang@sun.com Subject: Compiz: Compositing window manager [LSARC/2008/115 FastTrack timeout 02/21/2008] Status: RO Content-Length: 582 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Compiz: Compositing window manager 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Erwann Chenede 1.3 Date of This Document: 14 February, 2008 4. Technical Description See the case directory for more detail 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: JDS - Gnome 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From John.Fischer@sun.com Thu Feb 14 14:44:32 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1EMiWlc007967 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1EMiKm2019231 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:44:31 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW900C1V3652E00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:44:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW900BNU364HJ00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:44:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1EMiSmU005664 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW90040132Q2800@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.6] ([24.10.86.139]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW9008083625V90@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:05 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: lsarc-ext@sun.com Cc: Erwann Chenede , chris.wang@sun.com Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_54i+iWzSaFDwhci7OuuY1Q)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070622) Status: RO Content-Length: 16233 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_54i+iWzSaFDwhci7OuuY1Q) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT LSARC, I am sponsoring this fast track for Erwann Chenede and Chris Wang of the Gnome group in New Zealand and Beijing. I have set the timer for Thursday February 21st, 2008. The case directory contains this proposal. This project integrates Compiz into a Minor release of Solaris as an optional window manager to Metacity. This is an x86 project only as it depends upon OpenGL. Compiz can be extended via plugins which get installed in either /usr/lib/compiz or $HOME/compiz/plugins. Thanks, John --Boundary_(ID_54i+iWzSaFDwhci7OuuY1Q) Content-type: text/plain; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=proposal.txt Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.35 07/11/07 SMI Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Compiz: Compositing window manager 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Erwann Chenede, Chris Wang 1.3. Date of This Document: 12/02/08 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: Solaris PAC 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: LSARC 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: robert.odea@sun.com 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: OPG / OpenSource. 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: leo.binchy@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: erwann.chenede@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: dan.roberts@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org 2. Project Summary 2.1. Project Description: Compiz is one of the first compositing window managers for the X Window System that is able to take advantage of OpenGL-acceleration. The integration allows it to perform compositing effects in window management, such as a minimization effect and a cube workspace. Compiz is built on the Composite extension to X and the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension to OpenGL. Compiz is designed with a highly extensible plugin system (like Firefox's plugin system). These plugins can extend the basic functionality of Compiz, only giving you the features you want. Everything inside compiz is controlled by the plugins, even basic functionality like moving windows is enabled as a plugin. The frame decoration UI is also managed as a plugin. Multiple decorator are available. We are only providing the one provided by the core compiz package (gtk-window-decorator) 2.2. Risks and Assumptions: Compiz conforms to the ICCCM standard and as such can substitute for the default Metacity in GNOME. Compiz make use of video drivers features that might not have been tested in depth previously. This could indirectly cause system instability due to the use of these functionalities. 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Compiz will be made available as a optional window manager. Enabling compiz in the GNOME is achieved by adding a new tab in the gnome-appearance-properties applet. This tab will allow the user to switch between metacity and compiz. Compiz will only be available as a choice if the user X server is supported and configured properly. If this X server is not configured properly but the underlying driver does support compiz an option is made available to modify the X server configuration file. This is provided by compiz-configure. This depends on a private contract with the Xserver to use /etc/X11/.xorg.conf To configure compiz' numerous options the CompizeConfigs CompizConfig settings manager GUI (ccsm) will be delivered. This is a python gtk GUI. This application required additional widgets that are delivered by libsexy. (http://www.chipx86.com/wiki/Libsexy) Compiz is controlled almost solely by plugins. These plugins have been categorized into 3 categories: * main - These plugins are required compiz will not work properly without them. * extra - Additional plugins which provide many usability enhancements. * unsupported - Additional plugins that are not supported by the community. We are only delivering the main and extra plugins. These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that each user can install additional plugins into the $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. To manage the user settings using gconf as the rest of the GNOME desktop does the plugin/library compiz-config is used. 4.5. Interfaces: Exported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- SUNWcompiz Uncommitted Package name /usr/bin/compiz Uncommitted Executable of compiz /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator /usr/bin.compiz-configure Volatile Detect whether the hardware meet the requirement to run compiz. configure the xorg.conf file is required. /usr/lib/compiz/*.so Private Compiz Plugins see (5.1 for details) /usr/share/compiz Uncommitted Contains all image files ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed plugins ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by user installed plugins SUNWlibcompizconfig Uncommitted Package name for configuration plugin lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so Private init file style configuration plugin SUNWcompizconfig-gconf Uncommitted Package name for the configuration plugin gconf backend. lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so Private gconf backend to compiz config plugin SUNWcompizconfig-python Uncommitted Package name for the python bindings for compiz-config (used by ccsm) lib/python.../vendor-packages/compizconfig.so Private python bindings for compiz-config SUNWlibsexy Uncommitted Package name for extra gtk widget library lib/libsexy.so Uncommitted extra gtk widget library SUNWsexy-python Uncommitted Package name for libsexy python bindings. lib/python.../vendor-packages/sexy.so Uncommitted libsexy python bindings SUNWcompiz-fusion-main Uncommitted Package name for the main compiz plugins SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra Uncommitted Package name for the extra plugins Imported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- libpng Evolving LSARC/2003/568 dbus Volatile LSARC/2006/368 GTK Evolving LSARC/2001/384 Glib Evolving LSARC/2001/384 Gconf External LSARC/2002/146 metacity External LSARC/2001/420 OpenGL External LSARC 2005/109, LSARC/2005/700, LSARC/1999/410 Damage Extension X server extension External LSARC/2003/506 XFixes X server extension External PSARC/2004/318 Composite X server extension External PSARC/2007/240 4.6. Doc Impact: manpages will be provided for the binaries 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: see 4.1 for UI changes. 4.8. HA Impact: N/A 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and provide I18N/L10N support 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: The project will be delivering the following packages: SUNWcompiz compiz and plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-root compiz configuration files SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra compiz fusion extra plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra-root extra plugins configuration files SUNWcompiz-fusion-main compiz fusion main plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-fusion-main-root main plugins configuration files SUNWccsm compiz config settings manager binary SUNWlibcompizconfig compiz config library plugin SUNWlibcompizconfig-root compiz config library plugin configuration file SUNWcompizconfig-gconf compiz config gconf bindings SUNWcompizconfig-python compiz config python bindings SUNWlibsexy extra gtk widgets SUNWsexy-python libsexy python bindings 4.11. Security Impact: compiz is a user application without specific priviledges. The security impact will be the same as metacity. 5. Reference Documents: Compiz home page http://www.compiz.org/ compiz fusion plugins : http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ Compiz on solaris : http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/ 5.1 Plugins details Exported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz libannotate.so Private draw things on top of all windows libblur.so Private Provides support for blurring windows and contents behind translucent windows. libclone.so Private duplicate output on two screens libcube.so Private each virtual desktop becomes a face on a cube libdbus.so Private dbus interfacing libdecoration.so Private a plugin to communicate decoration settings to a decorator libfade.so Private windows fade in and out libgconf.so Private settings come from GNOME libini.so Private Flat file configuration backend. libminimize.so Private windows minimize (and maximize) with an animation effect libmove.so Private window moving libplace.so Private placement of new windows libplane.so Private slide across workspaces libpng.so Private allows plugin developers to load PNG files as textures without worrying about the image format. libregex.so Private provides regular expression matching for window title and other string properties. libresize.so Private window resizing librotate.so Private the desktop cube can be rotated libscale.so Private an overview of all open windows libscreenshot.so Private take the screenshot libsvg.so Private allows plugin developers to load svg files as textures. Other image plugins can be added so that extra image types will be seamlessly supported. libswitcher.so Private active window can be chosen with Alt-Tab libvideo.so Private Plugin that provide a composited video interface for efficient video playback. libwater.so Private ripples trailing mouse and rain effect libwobbly.so Private windows ripple while they move libzoom.so Private magnifies a part of screen lib/compiz/libccp.so Private compiz configuration plugin All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz-fusion-main libanimation.so Private plugin that provides animations for opening, closing, minimising, shading, and focusing windows libcolorfilter.so Private plugin to alter color rendering. Used for a11y libexpo.so Private plugin to see all of your viewports at once libezoom.so Private Enhanced zoom plugin libimgjpeg.so Private Plugin to allow other plugin to render jpeg images libneg.so Private Improve contrast by inverting the colours in a particular window or across the whole screen. libopacify.so Private Cause overlapping windows to automatically fade out when your mouse pointer hovers over a partially obscured window. libput.so Private Move a window into the centre of the screen libresizeinfo.so Private Display size info while resizing libring.so Private application switcher which present apps in a 3D ring libscaleaddon.so Private Addons to the scale plugin libshift.so Private Coverflow like application switcher libsnap.so Private make windows snap to edges libtext.so Private Allow compiz to render text libthumbnail.so Private Display small thumbnail of a window when your mouse cursor hovers over its button in the taskbar libvpswitch.so Private keybinding to switch between workspaces libwall.so Private Arrange your viewports into a grid, which you can freely slide across libwinrules.so Private Window matching plugin used by other plugin (e.g. scale) libworkarounds.so Private provides workaround of legacy apps that do not respect ICCCM All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra plugins libaddhelper.so Private Darken none focused window libbench.so Private display the number of frame per second rendered libcrashhandler.so Private Display a debugging backtrace when Compiz crashes libcubecaps.so Private Decorate the top and bottom faces of the cube libcubereflex.so Private Add a reflective ground to the Compiz Cube plugin libextrawm.so Private add keyboard shortcuts to windows actions. libfadedesktop.so Private Fade windows out to reveal the desktop libfirepaint.so Private Draw fire anywhere on your screen libgears.so Private Display glxgears inside the cube plugin libgroup.so Private Arrange windows into groups to move and resize them libmblur.so Private Display a motion blur for different screen animations libreflex.so Private Give translucent windows a reflective look libscalefilter.so Private add a search feature to the scale plugin libshowdesktop.so Private Slide all windows toward the edges or corners of the screen to reveal the desktop libsplash.so Private Show an animated logo image when Compiz starts libtrailfocus.so Private Progressively dims window as they loose focus. libwidget.so Private Place windows of your choice onto a widget layer that can be shown or hidden with a shortcut key --Boundary_(ID_54i+iWzSaFDwhci7OuuY1Q)-- From Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com Thu Feb 14 15:26:59 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1ENQwfJ010751 for ; 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Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW900A0150JDO00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW9003LY54UIOD0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:26:54 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> Sender: Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Erwann Chenede , Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B4CE3E.3090804@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071203) Status: RO Content-Length: 380 John Fischer wrote: > This is an x86 project only as it depends upon OpenGL. Small correction, before someone asks the obvious question - the missing dependency is on the OpenGL TextureFromPixmap extension which isn't supported by the OpenGL we do have on SPARC. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From danek.duvall@sun.com Thu Feb 14 15:55:58 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1ENtvJP013589 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1ENtoWo007050 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:55:56 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW900M016H5WL00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW900M7K6H4PB00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1ENtnZU048196; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1ENtn5d000719; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1ENtnQf000718; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:49 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> To: John Fischer Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, chris.wang@sun.com, Erwann Chenede Message-id: <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 3303 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:44:05PM -0800, John Fischer wrote: > This tab will allow the user to switch between metacity and > compiz. Compiz will only be available as a choice if the user > X server is supported and configured properly. If this X server > is not configured properly but the underlying driver does support > compiz an option is made available to modify the X server > configuration file. > This is provided by compiz-configure. This depends on a private > contract with the Xserver to use /etc/X11/.xorg.conf What does the end-user have to do to make sure that X is configured properly? Or will this be done automatically at some point? > These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that > each user can install additional plugins into the > $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. How does compiz deal with home directories that are shared between machines? There's both an architecture (sparc vs x86, once sparc support is enabled) and a version (compiz ABI v1 vs compiz ABI v2) issue. Is it smart enough to load all the plugins present and reject them gracefully if they're not supported on the running system? Or do we need to press for a directory heirarchy? What happens if a plugin isn't available on a system, but is loaded by the user's configuration? Is there anything that could go seriously wrong, or will the desktop operate as normal aside from that functionality being missing? Could that missing functionality be critical in any way? > To manage the user settings using gconf as the rest of the GNOME > desktop does the plugin/library compiz-config is used. > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > Exported Interfaces > Interface Stability Comments > --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- > SUNWcompiz Uncommitted Package name > /usr/bin/compiz Uncommitted Executable of compiz > /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator > Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator What does this executable do? > /usr/bin.compiz-configure > Volatile Detect whether the hardware > meet the requirement to run > compiz. configure the xorg.conf > file is required. > /usr/lib/compiz/*.so Private Compiz Plugins see (5.1 for > details) > /usr/share/compiz Uncommitted Contains all image files > ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed > plugins > ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by > user installed plugins > > SUNWlibcompizconfig Uncommitted Package name for configuration > plugin > lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so > Private init file style configuration > plugin This path sits under /usr/lib/compiz? (Thus /usr/lib/compiz/lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so?) The package naming suggests that compiz and compiz fusion haven't fully come together. Is there any real point in keeping those packages separate? Or maintaining the fusion name, now that beryl and compiz have merged? Danek From Darren.Moffat@sun.com Fri Feb 15 03:14:35 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FBEZr8001405 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FBEXHA021494 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00J0L1WAMC00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:14:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00ML61W98RA0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:14:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FBEXeD017688 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:14:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00G011NDCQ00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:14:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.173.21] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00BAC1W59H10@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:14:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:14:29 +0000 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> Sender: Darren.Moffat@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com, Erwann Chenede Message-id: <47B57415.80505@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080102) Status: RO Content-Length: 192 What authorisation and audit is performed by compiz-configure (or gnome-appearance-properties) for the case when the system wide X server configuration file is changed ? -- Darren J Moffat From ro@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de Fri Feb 15 03:56:47 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FBuiJZ001978 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FBuT7B019103; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:56:40 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA0090B3UDZ700@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.43.22]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00KG53UCH6B0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay21.sun.com (ip192-12-251-24.block6.us.syntegra.com [192.12.251.24]) by sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FBmbXd029772; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:56:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.34] [150.143.232.34]) by relay21i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-163810; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:56:35 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay23.sun.com (relay23.sun.com [192.12.251.54]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3438397; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:56:35 +0000 (Z) Received: from smarthost.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE ([129.70.137.17] [129.70.137.17]) by relay23i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-4380713; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:56:35 +0000 (Z) Received: from manam.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (manam.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.137.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smarthost.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1298648349; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:35 +0100 From: Rainer Orth Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: John Fischer's message of "Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:44:05 -0800" Sender: ro@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, chris.wang@sun.com, Erwann Chenede Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.44/Emacs 19.34 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=0.0/5.0, scanned in 0.152sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ Lines: 16 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 650 John Fischer writes: > ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed > plugins > ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by > user installed plugins Is it really necessary to clutter home directories like this. I'd really prefer that this goes into ~/.compiz instead (assuming that this is ~/compiz as in John's summary). Rainer -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University From Darren.Moffat@sun.com Fri Feb 15 04:28:36 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FCSZAx003450 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FCSP4B002444 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:28:34 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00B0B5BJ7T00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:28:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00KAB5BEH1B0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FCSPNW012874 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00D014NRJE00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.173.21] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA003NU5B16Z10@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:13 +0000 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: Sender: Darren.Moffat@sun.com To: Rainer Orth Cc: John.Fischer@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com, Erwann Chenede , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47B5855D.8060107@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080102) Status: RO Content-Length: 629 Rainer Orth wrote: > John Fischer writes: > >> ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed >> plugins >> ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by >> user installed plugins > > Is it really necessary to clutter home directories like this. I'd really > prefer that this goes into ~/.compiz instead (assuming that this is > ~/compiz as in John's summary). I agree completely if this is not a dot dir then I'm really not happy. -- Darren J Moffat From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:17:48 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDHlVY004058 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDHY7V024891 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:46 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA007017LMT200@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA006TI7LLDH00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDHjn6007788 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00G017ACE500@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.157.192.222] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA009IM7LAG550@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:18:29 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: John Fischer , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 4676 Danek Duvall wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:44:05PM -0800, John Fischer wrote: > > >> This tab will allow the user to switch between metacity and >> compiz. Compiz will only be available as a choice if the user >> X server is supported and configured properly. If this X server >> is not configured properly but the underlying driver does support >> compiz an option is made available to modify the X server >> configuration file. >> This is provided by compiz-configure. This depends on a private >> contract with the Xserver to use /etc/X11/.xorg.conf >> > > What does the end-user have to do to make sure that X is configured > properly? Or will this be done automatically at some point? > It's already done automatically, the visual effect tab is disabled if compiz cannot run with the current X server configuration. (in fact it checks for the Composite X extension and the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap OpenGL extension are present). >> These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that >> each user can install additional plugins into the >> $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. >> > > How does compiz deal with home directories that are shared between > machines? There's both an architecture (sparc vs x86, once sparc support > is enabled) and a version (compiz ABI v1 vs compiz ABI v2) issue. The plugins are are ABI versioned. The architecture specific versioning is not catered for the moment. Do you think that disabling this $(HOME)/.compiz would be a good solution ? > Is it > smart enough to load all the plugins present and reject them gracefully if > they're not supported on the running system? Or do we need to press for a > directory heirarchy? > In the future version, I believe checking for the architecture would be the nicest way of implementing this. > What happens if a plugin isn't available on a system, but is loaded by the > user's configuration? It fails gracefully. e.g. It logs a warning. > Is there anything that could go seriously wrong, or > will the desktop operate as normal aside from that functionality being > missing? Could that missing functionality be critical in any way? > No, the user is always able to restart another window manager is something goes wrong (e.g. compiz itself crash). >> To manage the user settings using gconf as the rest of the GNOME >> desktop does the plugin/library compiz-config is used. >> >> 4.5. Interfaces: >> >> Exported Interfaces >> Interface Stability Comments >> --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- >> SUNWcompiz Uncommitted Package name >> /usr/bin/compiz Uncommitted Executable of compiz >> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator >> Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator >> > > What does this executable do? > It's rendering the frames around the windows. > >> /usr/bin.compiz-configure >> Volatile Detect whether the hardware >> meet the requirement to run >> compiz. configure the xorg.conf >> file is required. >> /usr/lib/compiz/*.so Private Compiz Plugins see (5.1 for >> details) >> /usr/share/compiz Uncommitted Contains all image files >> ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed >> plugins >> ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by >> user installed plugins >> >> SUNWlibcompizconfig Uncommitted Package name for configuration >> plugin >> lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so >> Private init file style configuration >> plugin >> > > This path sits under /usr/lib/compiz? (Thus > /usr/lib/compiz/lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so?) > > The package naming suggests that compiz and compiz fusion haven't fully > come together. Is there any real point in keeping those packages separate? > Or maintaining the fusion name, now that beryl and compiz have merged? > I believe as the delivery timeline for compiz and compiz-fusion are not the same. compiz-fusion releasing more often than compiz itself. compiz is the core of the composite window manager and compiz-fusion is a set of plugins for this window manager, So I believe that It's better to keep them in separate package to be able to upgrade the plugins more often if need be. Erwann -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:27:31 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDRV8k004114 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDRSRs032651 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:27:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA0080181URA00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA006EX81SDG10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDRSAf019528 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA006017ZM0S00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.157.192.222] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00FNU81CTJB0@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:28:07 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B57415.80505@Sun.COM> Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Darren J Moffat Cc: John.Fischer@sun.com, lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B59367.9030800@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <47B57415.80505@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 563 Hi Darren, Darren J Moffat wrote: > What authorisation and audit is performed by compiz-configure (or > gnome-appearance-properties) for the case when the system wide X > server configuration file is changed ? It will use the same mechanism as gnome-system-tools (via /usr/lib/embedded_su) to gain authorisation when the actually modification of the X server configuration is about to be made. Erwann > > -- > Darren J Moffat -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 From Darren.Moffat@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:32:46 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDWjhV004217 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDWZlr001386 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:44 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00E038AJ0O00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00DRO8AIDM00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDWfem010183 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00E016I6GD00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.173.21] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00BWH8A39H10@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:27 +0000 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B59367.9030800@sun.com> Sender: Darren.Moffat@sun.com To: Erwann Chenede Cc: John.Fischer@sun.com, lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B5946B.6030008@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <47B57415.80505@Sun.COM> <47B59367.9030800@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080102) Status: RO Content-Length: 503 Erwann Chenede wrote: > Hi Darren, > > Darren J Moffat wrote: >> What authorisation and audit is performed by compiz-configure (or >> gnome-appearance-properties) for the case when the system wide X >> server configuration file is changed ? > It will use the same mechanism as gnome-system-tools (via > /usr/lib/embedded_su) to gain authorisation when the actually > modification of the X server configuration is about > to be made. Okay that seems sufficient for now thanks. -- Darren J Moffat From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:33:29 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDXSa4004231 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDXQUJ001781 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:33:28 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00E098BQ1L00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00DTE8BNDO00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDXN5v020348 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00I017MFBZ00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.157.192.222] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00FM78B1TJE0@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:33:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:33:56 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Rainer Orth Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47B594C4.10803@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 950 Hi Rainer, Rainer Orth wrote: > John Fischer writes: > > >> ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed >> plugins >> ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by >> user installed plugins >> > > Is it really necessary to clutter home directories like this. I'd really > prefer that this goes into ~/.compiz instead (assuming that this is > ~/compiz as in John's summary). > Actually it's a consistent typo in the ARC document. it's indeed ($HOME)/.compiz. I will remove this feature anyway as this feature could be problematic for multiplatform environment. (see my reply to Danek's email for details). Erwann > Rainer > > -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:36:26 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDaPsU004271 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDaHMi002516 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:36:24 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA009518GLRA00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA006TR8GJDG10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDaIYs010802 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:36:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA0010188F8B00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:36:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.157.192.222] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA009F78GCG5E0@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:36:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:37:07 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B5946B.6030008@Sun.COM> Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Darren J Moffat Cc: John.Fischer@sun.com, lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B59583.8070802@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <47B57415.80505@Sun.COM> <47B59367.9030800@sun.com> <47B5946B.6030008@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 777 Darren J Moffat wrote: > Erwann Chenede wrote: >> Hi Darren, >> >> Darren J Moffat wrote: >>> What authorisation and audit is performed by compiz-configure (or >>> gnome-appearance-properties) for the case when the system wide X >>> server configuration file is changed ? >> It will use the same mechanism as gnome-system-tools (via >> /usr/lib/embedded_su) to gain authorisation when the actually >> modification of the X server configuration is about >> to be made. > > Okay that seems sufficient for now thanks. > The ultimate goal is to get ride of this entirely and get the drivers and Xorg to enable the features needed by default. Erwann -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 From Darren.Moffat@sun.com Fri Feb 15 05:49:42 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FDngDu004306 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FDnf0n024726 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00B0592T0Q00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA006S792SDE10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FDneks012835 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA0010188F8B00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.173.21] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00BZI92D9H10@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:49:25 +0000 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B594C4.10803@sun.com> Sender: Darren.Moffat@sun.com To: Erwann Chenede Cc: Rainer Orth , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47B59865.9030507@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <47B594C4.10803@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080102) Status: RO Content-Length: 1566 Erwann Chenede wrote: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer Orth wrote: >> John Fischer writes: >> >> >>> ~./compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed >>> plugins >>> ~./compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by >>> user installed plugins >>> >> Is it really necessary to clutter home directories like this. I'd really >> prefer that this goes into ~/.compiz instead (assuming that this is >> ~/compiz as in John's summary). >> > Actually it's a consistent typo in the ARC document. it's indeed > ($HOME)/.compiz. > I will remove this feature anyway as this feature could be problematic > for multiplatform environment. (see my reply to Danek's email > for details). I don't think it should be removed instead a simple extension to have it look in ~/.compiz/plugins/`uname -p`/ before ~/.compiz/plugins/ That is probably about the same amount of code change (maybe less) than removing the functionality. Note that the whole Mozilla suite of programs suffers from this same problem, but they at least have an environment variable that users can set to use for finding plugins, eg: MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=$HOME/lib/sparc/mozilla/plugins/ If compiz has a similar environment variable for plugins then that for me would be sufficient. Disabling plugins completely is for me worse than not being able to support a directory structure containing multiple architectures. -- Darren J Moffat From kmcdonald@egenera.com Fri Feb 15 06:09:03 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FE92pb005396 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FE8wVv014520; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:09:01 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00A0B9Z02500@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA005H49YZXV30@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay22.sun.com (relay22.sun.com [192.12.251.34] (may be forged)) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FE82YO009373; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:08:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.34] [150.143.232.34]) by relay22i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-168889; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:08:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay23.sun.com (relay23.sun.com [192.12.251.54]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3560670; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:08:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from webaccess.egenera.com ([63.139.209.15] [63.139.209.15]) by relay23i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-4548641; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:08:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.50.0.20] ([10.50.0.20]) by webaccess.egenera.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:14 -0500 From: Kyle McDonald Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B59865.9030507@Sun.COM> To: Darren J Moffat Cc: Erwann Chenede , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47B59D0A.8080703@Egenera.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=-1.1/5.0, scanned in 0.052sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <47B594C4.10803@sun.com> <47B59865.9030507@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2008 14:09:10.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[55E3F470:01C86FDC] Status: RO Content-Length: 1078 Darren J Moffat wrote: > > I don't think it should be removed instead a simple extension to have it look in ~/.compiz/plugins/`uname -p`/ before ~/.compiz/plugins/ > > Is 'uname -p' enough? Won't that only account for solaris on different processors? I don't know about others, but my homedirs are shared among more OS than just SPARC and X86 Solaris. Finding something that will handle all the combinations might be too much though. > Note that the whole Mozilla suite of programs suffers from this same > problem, but they at least have an environment variable that users can > set to use for finding plugins, eg: > MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=$HOME/lib/sparc/mozilla/plugins/ > > If compiz has a similar environment variable for plugins then that for > me would be sufficient. > > Instead this might the most flexible solution. Users with multi OS/platform home dirs could handle it in their login scripts. > Disabling plugins completely is for me worse than not being able to > support a directory structure containing multiple architectures. > > I agree. -Kyle From danek.duvall@sun.com Fri Feb 15 09:22:23 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FHMMti010477 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FHMBxj011277 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@Sun.COM>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:22:21 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00701IX8BJ00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA0068QIX8D7D0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FHMHUe025073; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1FHMGwb006118; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1FHMGHG006117; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:22:16 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> To: Erwann Chenede Cc: John Fischer , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 2565 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:18:29PM +0100, Erwann Chenede wrote: > Danek Duvall wrote: > >> What does the end-user have to do to make sure that X is configured >> properly? Or will this be done automatically at some point? > > It's already done automatically, the visual effect tab is disabled if > compiz cannot run with the current X server configuration. (in fact it > checks for the Composite X extension and the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap > OpenGL extension are present). So is there any point in putting compiz-configure in /usr/bin? Seems like it's a Private implementation detail at the moment. >>> These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that each user can >>> install additional plugins into the $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. >> >> How does compiz deal with home directories that are shared between >> machines? There's both an architecture (sparc vs x86, once sparc support >> is enabled) and a version (compiz ABI v1 vs compiz ABI v2) issue. > > The plugins are are ABI versioned. > The architecture specific versioning is not catered for the moment. > Do you think that disabling this $(HOME)/.compiz would be a good solution ? That seems a bit much. I'd be satisfied for the moment if you could put plugins of any architecture or ABI version into the directory and have compiz sort out which plugins it can load and which it can't. That would imply that the filename of a plugin would have to not matter (i.e., freeblebrotz-x86.so and freeblebrotz-sparc.so could both provide the FreebleBrotz plugin, even though the filenames included the architecture tag). On a related note, are either the plugin API or ABI Public interfaces? >>> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator >> >> What does this executable do? > > It's rendering the frames around the windows. Is it something the user would ever run, or is it an implementation detail of compiz? >> The package naming suggests that compiz and compiz fusion haven't fully >> come together. Is there any real point in keeping those packages >> separate? Or maintaining the fusion name, now that beryl and compiz >> have merged? > > I believe as the delivery timeline for compiz and compiz-fusion are not > the same. compiz-fusion releasing more often than compiz itself. compiz > is the core of the composite window manager and compiz-fusion is a set of > plugins for this window manager, So I believe that It's better to keep > them in separate package to be able to upgrade the plugins more often if > need be. Okay. Thanks, Danek From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Fri Feb 15 09:37:52 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FHbpnw010697 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FHbkQD028890 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:37:50 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00003JN0U800@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA00DL2JMZDOD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1FHblS6014565 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWA00C01JMXUM00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.157.192.222] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWA00L3HJMYAS50@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:37:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:38:39 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: John Fischer , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <47B5CE1F.7000007@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 3340 Hi Danek, Danek Duvall wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:18:29PM +0100, Erwann Chenede wrote: > > >> Danek Duvall wrote: >> >> >>> What does the end-user have to do to make sure that X is configured >>> properly? Or will this be done automatically at some point? >>> >> It's already done automatically, the visual effect tab is disabled if >> compiz cannot run with the current X server configuration. (in fact it >> checks for the Composite X extension and the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap >> OpenGL extension are present). >> > > So is there any point in putting compiz-configure in /usr/bin? Seems like > it's a Private implementation detail at the moment. > True, what is the preferred location installation for these Private implementation detail ? > >>>> These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that each user can >>>> install additional plugins into the $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. >>>> >>> How does compiz deal with home directories that are shared between >>> machines? There's both an architecture (sparc vs x86, once sparc support >>> is enabled) and a version (compiz ABI v1 vs compiz ABI v2) issue. >>> >> The plugins are are ABI versioned. >> The architecture specific versioning is not catered for the moment. >> Do you think that disabling this $(HOME)/.compiz would be a good solution ? >> > > That seems a bit much. I'd be satisfied for the moment if you could put > plugins of any architecture or ABI version into the directory and have > compiz sort out which plugins it can load and which it can't. That would > imply that the filename of a plugin would have to not matter (i.e., > freeblebrotz-x86.so and freeblebrotz-sparc.so could both provide the > FreebleBrotz plugin, even though the filenames included the architecture > tag). > Agreed, I'll implement it. > On a related note, are either the plugin API or ABI Public interfaces? > The plugin API is private as it is evolving from version to version. This is why I didn't mentioned it. Should I mention it ? > >>>> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator >>>> >>> What does this executable do? >>> >> It's rendering the frames around the windows. >> > > Is it something the user would ever run, or is it an implementation detail > of compiz? > Yes,users can switch between decorators as other window decorators exist for example emerald (http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Decorators/Emerald) > >>> The package naming suggests that compiz and compiz fusion haven't fully >>> come together. Is there any real point in keeping those packages >>> separate? Or maintaining the fusion name, now that beryl and compiz >>> have merged? >>> >> I believe as the delivery timeline for compiz and compiz-fusion are not >> the same. compiz-fusion releasing more often than compiz itself. compiz >> is the core of the composite window manager and compiz-fusion is a set of >> plugins for this window manager, So I believe that It's better to keep >> them in separate package to be able to upgrade the plugins more often if >> need be. >> > > Okay. > > Thanks, > Danek > Thanks, Erwann -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 From danek.duvall@sun.com Fri Feb 15 09:59:25 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FHxPLB011273 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FHxLmY020436 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@Sun.COM>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWA00453KN1MG00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWA0008MKMZR220@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:59:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1FHxK5d017283; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1FHxKXI027012; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1FHxKXv027011; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:59:19 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B5CE1F.7000007@sun.com> To: Erwann Chenede Cc: John Fischer , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Chris.Wang@sun.com Message-id: <20080215175919.GQ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B5CE1F.7000007@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1521 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 06:38:39PM +0100, Erwann Chenede wrote: >> So is there any point in putting compiz-configure in /usr/bin? Seems like >> it's a Private implementation detail at the moment. > > True, what is the preferred location installation for these Private > implementation detail ? /usr/lib. Make a subdirectory if you're finding that a bunch of things from your project are ending up there. >> On a related note, are either the plugin API or ABI Public interfaces? >> > The plugin API is private as it is evolving from version to version. This > is why I didn't mentioned it. Should I mention it ? It's probably worth mentioning, yeah, just so everyone's aware it's not a Public interface. Though the ABI is more interesting as a Private interface, since end-users will still have to deal with the consequences of it evolving. >>>>> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk >>>>> decorator >> >> Is it something the user would ever run, or is it an implementation detail >> of compiz? > > Yes,users can switch between decorators as other window decorators exist > for example emerald (http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Decorators/Emerald) Ah, I see. gtk-window-decorator is a window decorator, just like emerald. I was expecting it to be a generic window decorator which then took plugins like emerald. I was going to ask about the name, since it seems more specific to gtk than to compiz, but I see now. I presume there's a gui way of changing decorators, too? Danek From Erwann.Chenede@sun.com Sun Feb 17 06:21:47 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HELk7S004507 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1HELgla008734 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:21:45 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWD00I07ZW8S300@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWD00EJKZW68U80@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1HELgir017133 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWD00F01ZTDRZ00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Erwann.Chenede@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([90.37.244.81]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWD00CRAZW5J410@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:21:38 +0100 From: Erwann Chenede Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <20080215175919.GQ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Erwann.Chenede@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: John Fischer , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <47B842F2.1090400@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B5CE1F.7000007@sun.com> <20080215175919.GQ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080115) Status: RO Content-Length: 2395 Hi Danek, Danek Duvall wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 06:38:39PM +0100, Erwann Chenede wrote: > > >>> So is there any point in putting compiz-configure in /usr/bin? Seems like >>> it's a Private implementation detail at the moment. >>> >> True, what is the preferred location installation for these Private >> implementation detail ? >> > > /usr/lib. Make a subdirectory if you're finding that a bunch of things > from your project are ending up there. > Ok, I'll put that in /usr/lib/compiz as the name space is already used for compiz plugins. > >>> On a related note, are either the plugin API or ABI Public interfaces? >>> >>> >> The plugin API is private as it is evolving from version to version. This >> is why I didn't mentioned it. Should I mention it ? >> > > It's probably worth mentioning, yeah, just so everyone's aware it's not a > Public interface. Though the ABI is more interesting as a Private > interface, since end-users will still have to deal with the consequences of > it evolving. > Ok, I'll mention it. JohnF can you add in 4.5 : compiz plugin API Private interface used by compiz to interact with its plugins. compiz plugin ABI Private this ABI doesn't yet reflect a standard it is changing from version to version. > >>>>>> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk >>>>>> decorator >>>>>> >>> Is it something the user would ever run, or is it an implementation detail >>> of compiz? >>> >> Yes,users can switch between decorators as other window decorators exist >> for example emerald (http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Decorators/Emerald) >> > > Ah, I see. gtk-window-decorator is a window decorator, just like emerald. > I was expecting it to be a generic window decorator which then took plugins > like emerald. I was going to ask about the name, since it seems more > specific to gtk than to compiz, but I see now. > > I presume there's a gui way of changing decorators, too? > Yes, via gconf-editor or ccsm or via the command line by running the decorators command line with --replace as an argument. Erwann > Danek > -- Erwann Chénedé, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 [ I speak for myself, not for my employer ] From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Feb 26 10:29:58 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1QITvXv008982 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1QITog4024351 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:29:56 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWU00K0DZDUYB00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWU00GXLZDSRO90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1QITqHr020574 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:29:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWU00101Z4OIX00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from 129.145.154.84 ([129.145.154.84]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWU00BE0ZDRI740@mail-amer.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:29:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:29:51 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/115 - Compiz: Compositing window manager In-reply-to: <47B842F2.1090400@sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: Erwann Chenede Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <1204050590.27968.15.camel@sr1-umpk-34> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.301c Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ob04693QsEOpsrdjJZ645w)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B4C435.4000307@sun.com> <20080214235549.GJ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B59125.7010200@sun.com> <20080215172216.GP22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B5CE1F.7000007@sun.com> <20080215175919.GQ22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B842F2.1090400@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 18887 --Boundary_(ID_Ob04693QsEOpsrdjJZ645w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Erwann, This case was approved during ARC business today. I have attached the updated proposal that is also in the case directory. Thanks, John On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 06:21, Erwann Chenede wrote: > Hi Danek, > > Danek Duvall wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 06:38:39PM +0100, Erwann Chenede wrote: > > > > > >>> So is there any point in putting compiz-configure in /usr/bin? Seems like > >>> it's a Private implementation detail at the moment. > >>> > >> True, what is the preferred location installation for these Private > >> implementation detail ? > >> > > > > /usr/lib. Make a subdirectory if you're finding that a bunch of things > > from your project are ending up there. > > > Ok, I'll put that in /usr/lib/compiz as the name space is already used > for compiz plugins. > > > >>> On a related note, are either the plugin API or ABI Public interfaces? > >>> > >>> > >> The plugin API is private as it is evolving from version to version. This > >> is why I didn't mentioned it. Should I mention it ? > >> > > > > It's probably worth mentioning, yeah, just so everyone's aware it's not a > > Public interface. Though the ABI is more interesting as a Private > > interface, since end-users will still have to deal with the consequences of > > it evolving. > > > Ok, I'll mention it. > > JohnF can you add in 4.5 : > compiz plugin API Private interface used > by compiz to interact with its plugins. > compiz plugin ABI Private this ABI doesn't > yet reflect a standard it is changing from version to version. > > > >>>>>> /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk > >>>>>> decorator > >>>>>> > >>> Is it something the user would ever run, or is it an implementation detail > >>> of compiz? > >>> > >> Yes,users can switch between decorators as other window decorators exist > >> for example emerald (http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Decorators/Emerald) > >> > > > > Ah, I see. gtk-window-decorator is a window decorator, just like emerald. > > I was expecting it to be a generic window decorator which then took plugins > > like emerald. I was going to ask about the name, since it seems more > > specific to gtk than to compiz, but I see now. > > > > I presume there's a gui way of changing decorators, too? > > > Yes, via gconf-editor or ccsm or via the command line by running the > decorators command line with --replace as an argument. > > Erwann > > Danek > > > > > -- > Erwann Ch?ned?, > Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble > Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 > [ I speak for myself, not for my employer ] > > --Boundary_(ID_Ob04693QsEOpsrdjJZ645w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ASCII; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=proposal.txt Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.35 07/11/07 SMI Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Compiz: Compositing window manager 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Erwann Chenede, Chris Wang 1.3. Date of This Document: 12/02/08 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: Solaris PAC 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: LSARC 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: robert.odea@sun.com 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: OPG / OpenSource. 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: leo.binchy@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: erwann.chenede@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: dan.roberts@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org 2. Project Summary 2.1. Project Description: Compiz is one of the first compositing window managers for the X Window System that is able to take advantage of OpenGL-acceleration. The integration allows it to perform compositing effects in window management, such as a minimization effect and a cube workspace. Compiz is built on the Composite extension to X and the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension to OpenGL. Compiz is designed with a highly extensible plugin system (like Firefox's plugin system). These plugins can extend the basic functionality of Compiz, only giving you the features you want. Everything inside compiz is controlled by the plugins, even basic functionality like moving windows is enabled as a plugin. The frame decoration UI is also managed as a plugin. Multiple decorator are available. We are only providing the one provided by the core compiz package (gtk-window-decorator) 2.2. Risks and Assumptions: Compiz conforms to the ICCCM standard and as such can substitute for the default Metacity in GNOME. Compiz make use of video drivers features that might not have been tested in depth previously. This could indirectly cause system instability due to the use of these functionalities. 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Compiz will be made available as a optional window manager. Enabling compiz in the GNOME is achieved by adding a new tab in the gnome-appearance-properties applet. This tab will allow the user to switch between metacity and compiz. Compiz will only be available as a choice if the user X server is supported and configured properly. If this X server is not configured properly but the underlying driver does support compiz an option is made available to modify the X server configuration file. This is provided by compiz-configure. This depends on a private contract with the Xserver to use /etc/X11/.xorg.conf To configure compiz' numerous options the CompizeConfigs CompizConfig settings manager GUI (ccsm) will be delivered. This is a python gtk GUI. This application required additional widgets that are delivered by libsexy. (http://www.chipx86.com/wiki/Libsexy) Compiz is controlled almost solely by plugins. These plugins have been categorized into 3 categories: * main - These plugins are required compiz will not work properly without them. * extra - Additional plugins which provide many usability enhancements. * unsupported - Additional plugins that are not supported by the community. We are only delivering the main and extra plugins. These plugins are installed on /usr/lib/compiz. Note that each user can install additional plugins into the $(HOME)/compiz/plugins directory. To manage the user settings using gconf as the rest of the GNOME desktop does the plugin/library compiz-config is used. 4.5. Interfaces: Exported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- SUNWcompiz Uncommitted Package name /usr/bin/compiz Uncommitted Executable of compiz /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator Uncommitted Executable of gtk decorator /usr/bin.compiz-configure Volatile Detect whether the hardware meet the requirement to run compiz. configure the xorg.conf file is required. /usr/lib/compiz/*.so Private Compiz Plugins see (5.1 for details) /usr/share/compiz Uncommitted Contains all image files ~./.compiz/plugins Uncommitted Contains all user installed plugins ~./.compiz/images Uncommitted Contains all images using by user installed plugins SUNWlibcompizconfig Uncommitted Package name for configuration plugin lib/compizconfig/backends/libini.so Private init file style configuration plugin SUNWcompizconfig-gconf Uncommitted Package name for the configuration plugin gconf backend. lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so Private gconf backend to compiz config plugin SUNWcompizconfig-python Uncommitted Package name for the python bindings for compiz-config (used by ccsm) lib/python.../vendor-packages/compizconfig.so Private python bindings for compiz-config SUNWlibsexy Uncommitted Package name for extra gtk widget library lib/libsexy.so Uncommitted extra gtk widget library SUNWsexy-python Uncommitted Package name for libsexy python bindings. lib/python.../vendor-packages/sexy.so Uncommitted libsexy python bindings SUNWcompiz-fusion-main Uncommitted Package name for the main compiz plugins SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra Uncommitted Package name for the extra plugins compiz plugin API Project Private interface used by compiz to interact with its plugins. compiz plugin ABI Project Private this ABI doesn't yet reflect a standard it is changing from version to version. Imported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- libpng Evolving LSARC/2003/568 dbus Volatile LSARC/2006/368 GTK Evolving LSARC/2001/384 Glib Evolving LSARC/2001/384 Gconf External LSARC/2002/146 metacity External LSARC/2001/420 OpenGL External LSARC 2005/109, LSARC/2005/700, LSARC/1999/410 Damage Extension X server extension External LSARC/2003/506 XFixes X server extension External PSARC/2004/318 Composite X server extension External PSARC/2007/240 4.6. Doc Impact: manpages will be provided for the binaries 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: see 4.1 for UI changes. 4.8. HA Impact: N/A 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and provide I18N/L10N support 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: The project will be delivering the following packages: SUNWcompiz compiz and plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-root compiz configuration files SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra compiz fusion extra plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra-root extra plugins configuration files SUNWcompiz-fusion-main compiz fusion main plugin binaries SUNWcompiz-fusion-main-root main plugins configuration files SUNWccsm compiz config settings manager binary SUNWlibcompizconfig compiz config library plugin SUNWlibcompizconfig-root compiz config library plugin configuration file SUNWcompizconfig-gconf compiz config gconf bindings SUNWcompizconfig-python compiz config python bindings SUNWlibsexy extra gtk widgets SUNWsexy-python libsexy python bindings 4.11. Security Impact: compiz is a user application without specific priviledges. The security impact will be the same as metacity. 5. Reference Documents: Compiz home page http://www.compiz.org/ compiz fusion plugins : http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ Compiz on solaris : http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/ 5.1 Plugins details Exported Interfaces Interface Stability Comments --------------------- ---------------- ---------------------- All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz libannotate.so Private draw things on top of all windows libblur.so Private Provides support for blurring windows and contents behind translucent windows. libclone.so Private duplicate output on two screens libcube.so Private each virtual desktop becomes a face on a cube libdbus.so Private dbus interfacing libdecoration.so Private a plugin to communicate decoration settings to a decorator libfade.so Private windows fade in and out libgconf.so Private settings come from GNOME libini.so Private Flat file configuration backend. libminimize.so Private windows minimize (and maximize) with an animation effect libmove.so Private window moving libplace.so Private placement of new windows libplane.so Private slide across workspaces libpng.so Private allows plugin developers to load PNG files as textures without worrying about the image format. libregex.so Private provides regular expression matching for window title and other string properties. libresize.so Private window resizing librotate.so Private the desktop cube can be rotated libscale.so Private an overview of all open windows libscreenshot.so Private take the screenshot libsvg.so Private allows plugin developers to load svg files as textures. Other image plugins can be added so that extra image types will be seamlessly supported. libswitcher.so Private active window can be chosen with Alt-Tab libvideo.so Private Plugin that provide a composited video interface for efficient video playback. libwater.so Private ripples trailing mouse and rain effect libwobbly.so Private windows ripple while they move libzoom.so Private magnifies a part of screen lib/compiz/libccp.so Private compiz configuration plugin All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz-fusion-main libanimation.so Private plugin that provides animations for opening, closing, minimising, shading, and focusing windows libcolorfilter.so Private plugin to alter color rendering. Used for a11y libexpo.so Private plugin to see all of your viewports at once libezoom.so Private Enhanced zoom plugin libimgjpeg.so Private Plugin to allow other plugin to render jpeg images libneg.so Private Improve contrast by inverting the colours in a particular window or across the whole screen. libopacify.so Private Cause overlapping windows to automatically fade out when your mouse pointer hovers over a partially obscured window. libput.so Private Move a window into the centre of the screen libresizeinfo.so Private Display size info while resizing libring.so Private application switcher which present apps in a 3D ring libscaleaddon.so Private Addons to the scale plugin libshift.so Private Coverflow like application switcher libsnap.so Private make windows snap to edges libtext.so Private Allow compiz to render text libthumbnail.so Private Display small thumbnail of a window when your mouse cursor hovers over its button in the taskbar libvpswitch.so Private keybinding to switch between workspaces libwall.so Private Arrange your viewports into a grid, which you can freely slide across libwinrules.so Private Window matching plugin used by other plugin (e.g. scale) libworkarounds.so Private provides workaround of legacy apps that do not respect ICCCM All the subsequent plugins are located in lib/compiz Part of SUNWcompiz-fusion-extra plugins libaddhelper.so Private Darken none focused window libbench.so Private display the number of frame per second rendered libcrashhandler.so Private Display a debugging backtrace when Compiz crashes libcubecaps.so Private Decorate the top and bottom faces of the cube libcubereflex.so Private Add a reflective ground to the Compiz Cube plugin libextrawm.so Private add keyboard shortcuts to windows actions. libfadedesktop.so Private Fade windows out to reveal the desktop libfirepaint.so Private Draw fire anywhere on your screen libgears.so Private Display glxgears inside the cube plugin libgroup.so Private Arrange windows into groups to move and resize them libmblur.so Private Display a motion blur for different screen animations libreflex.so Private Give translucent windows a reflective look libscalefilter.so Private add a search feature to the scale plugin libshowdesktop.so Private Slide all windows toward the edges or corners of the screen to reveal the desktop libsplash.so Private Show an animated logo image when Compiz starts libtrailfocus.so Private Progressively dims window as they loose focus. libwidget.so Private Place windows of your choice onto a widget layer that can be shown or hidden with a shortcut key --Boundary_(ID_Ob04693QsEOpsrdjJZ645w)--