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From: Shi-Ying Irene Huang <sh162551@sac.sfbay.sun.com>
Subject: libtasn1 for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/390 FastTrack timeout 06/25/2008]
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Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 libtasn1 for OpenSolaris
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Jeff Cai
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	19 June, 2008
4. Technical Description
1. Introduction
   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:

        libtasn1

   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
        
        Author:         Jeff Cai
        Sponser:        Irene Huang

   1.3. Date of This Document:

        06/19/2008

   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):

        1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:

                Solaris PAC

        1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:

                LSARC

        1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:

                Robert O'Dea

        1.4.4. The name of your business unit:

                Software - OPG

   1.5. Email Aliases:
            1.5.1. Responsible Manager:  harry.lu@sun.com
            1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: jeff.cai@sun.com
            1.5.3. Marketing Manager:    
            1.5.4. Interest List:        brian.cameron@sun.com
                                         darren.moffat@sun.com
                                         wyllys.ingersoll@sun.com


2. Project Summary
   2.1. Project Description:
      
      Libtasn1 is a  library  for  Abstract  Syntax  Notation  One
     (ASN.1) and Distinguish Encoding Rules (DER) manipulation.

      The current version of libtasn1 is 1.4.

4. Technical Description:
    4.1. Details:

    ASN.1 is a joint ISO/IEC and ITU-T standard, originally defined in 1984 
    as part of CCITT X.409:1984. ASN.1 moved to its own standard, X.208, in 
    1988 due to wide applicability. The substantially revised 1995 version 
    is covered by the X.680 series. The latest available version is dated 
    2002, and is backward compatible with the 1995 version.

    Application layer protocols such as X.400 electronic mail, X.500 and 
    LDAP directory services, H.323 (VoIP), BACnet and SNMP use ASN.1 to 
    describe the protocol data units (PDUs) they exchange. It is also 
    extensively used in the Access and Non-Access Strata of UMTS. There are 
    many other application domains of ASN.1

    The Distinguished Encoding Rules of ASN.1 is an International Standard 
    drawn from the constraints placed on basic encoding rules (BER) 
    encodings by X.509. DER encodings are valid BER encodings. DER is the 
    same thing as BER with all but one sender's options removed. For 
    example, in BER a boolean value of true can be encoded in 255 ways 
    (since 0 indicates false), while in DER there is only one way to encode 
    a boolean value of true.

    The main features of this library are:

    * On-line ASN1 structure management that doesn't require any C code file 
      generation.
    * Off-line ASN1 structure management with C code file generation containing
      an array.
    * DER (Distinguish Encoding Rules) encoding.
    * No limits for INTEGER and ENUMERATED values.
    * It's thread-safe. No global variables are used and multiple library 
      handles and session handles may be used in parallel.
    * It's portable. It should work on all Unix like operating systems, 
      including Windows. The library itself should be portable to any C89 
      system, not even POSIX is required. 

    The new version (gnome-keyring 2.22) of gnome-keyring library will depend on
    libtasn1 to parse some data structures of pkix. 

    4.2. Interfaces:
         Exported Interfaces
           Interface                        Classification      Comments
         ---------------                    -------------- -----------------------
         SUNWlibtasn1                        Uncommitted     Package name 
         SUNWlibtasn1-devel                  Uncommitted     Package name 

         /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
         /usr/share/man/man3/libtasn1.3      Volatile        Man page
         /usr/share/aclocal/libtasn1.m4      Volatile          
         /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libtasn1.pc      Uncommitted
         /usr/include/libtasn1.h             Volatile 
         /usr/bin/libtasn1-config            Volatile      A shell script 
                                                           getting information
                                                           about the installed
                                                           location of libtasn1.

         ASN.1 specification                 Committed       Refer to [2] 

         Imported Interfaces
           Interface                         Classification     Comments
         ---------------                     --------------- -----------------------

         There's no imported interface worth mentioning.

    4.3. Packaging & Delivery:
         SUNWlibtasn1(base package)                   - base package for binaries
         SUNWlibtasn1-devel (development package)     - develoment package for 
                                                         header and documents
5. References
        [1] Homepage: http://josefsson.org/libtasn1/
        [2] ASN.1 Information Site: http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr/en/index.htm
        [3] ASN.1 Consortium: http://www.asn1.org/
 


6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		Desktop
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


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Subject: Re: libtasn1 for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/390 FastTrack timeout
 06/25/2008]
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Hi, all

This case is due timeout on Tuesday (06/25/2008), any issue, please 
raise before then.

Thanks

--Irene
Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
> 1. Introduction
>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 	 libtasn1 for OpenSolaris
>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 	 Author:  Jeff Cai
>     1.3  Date of This Document:
> 	19 June, 2008
> 4. Technical Description
> 1. Introduction
>    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>
>         libtasn1
>
>    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>         
>         Author:         Jeff Cai
>         Sponser:        Irene Huang
>
>    1.3. Date of This Document:
>
>         06/19/2008
>
>    1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
>
>         1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
>
>                 Solaris PAC
>
>         1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
>
>                 LSARC
>
>         1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:
>
>                 Robert O'Dea
>
>         1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
>
>                 Software - OPG
>
>    1.5. Email Aliases:
>             1.5.1. Responsible Manager:  harry.lu@sun.com
>             1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: jeff.cai@sun.com
>             1.5.3. Marketing Manager:    
>             1.5.4. Interest List:        brian.cameron@sun.com
>                                          darren.moffat@sun.com
>                                          wyllys.ingersoll@sun.com
>
>
> 2. Project Summary
>    2.1. Project Description:
>       
>       Libtasn1 is a  library  for  Abstract  Syntax  Notation  One
>      (ASN.1) and Distinguish Encoding Rules (DER) manipulation.
>
>       The current version of libtasn1 is 1.4.
>
> 4. Technical Description:
>     4.1. Details:
>
>     ASN.1 is a joint ISO/IEC and ITU-T standard, originally defined in 1984 
>     as part of CCITT X.409:1984. ASN.1 moved to its own standard, X.208, in 
>     1988 due to wide applicability. The substantially revised 1995 version 
>     is covered by the X.680 series. The latest available version is dated 
>     2002, and is backward compatible with the 1995 version.
>
>     Application layer protocols such as X.400 electronic mail, X.500 and 
>     LDAP directory services, H.323 (VoIP), BACnet and SNMP use ASN.1 to 
>     describe the protocol data units (PDUs) they exchange. It is also 
>     extensively used in the Access and Non-Access Strata of UMTS. There are 
>     many other application domains of ASN.1
>
>     The Distinguished Encoding Rules of ASN.1 is an International Standard 
>     drawn from the constraints placed on basic encoding rules (BER) 
>     encodings by X.509. DER encodings are valid BER encodings. DER is the 
>     same thing as BER with all but one sender's options removed. For 
>     example, in BER a boolean value of true can be encoded in 255 ways 
>     (since 0 indicates false), while in DER there is only one way to encode 
>     a boolean value of true.
>
>     The main features of this library are:
>
>     * On-line ASN1 structure management that doesn't require any C code file 
>       generation.
>     * Off-line ASN1 structure management with C code file generation containing
>       an array.
>     * DER (Distinguish Encoding Rules) encoding.
>     * No limits for INTEGER and ENUMERATED values.
>     * It's thread-safe. No global variables are used and multiple library 
>       handles and session handles may be used in parallel.
>     * It's portable. It should work on all Unix like operating systems, 
>       including Windows. The library itself should be portable to any C89 
>       system, not even POSIX is required. 
>
>     The new version (gnome-keyring 2.22) of gnome-keyring library will depend on
>     libtasn1 to parse some data structures of pkix. 
>
>     4.2. Interfaces:
>          Exported Interfaces
>            Interface                        Classification      Comments
>          ---------------                    -------------- -----------------------
>          SUNWlibtasn1                        Uncommitted     Package name 
>          SUNWlibtasn1-devel                  Uncommitted     Package name 
>
>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
>          /usr/share/man/man3/libtasn1.3      Volatile        Man page
>          /usr/share/aclocal/libtasn1.m4      Volatile          
>          /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libtasn1.pc      Uncommitted
>          /usr/include/libtasn1.h             Volatile 
>          /usr/bin/libtasn1-config            Volatile      A shell script 
>                                                            getting information
>                                                            about the installed
>                                                            location of libtasn1.
>
>          ASN.1 specification                 Committed       Refer to [2] 
>
>          Imported Interfaces
>            Interface                         Classification     Comments
>          ---------------                     --------------- -----------------------
>
>          There's no imported interface worth mentioning.
>
>     4.3. Packaging & Delivery:
>          SUNWlibtasn1(base package)                   - base package for binaries
>          SUNWlibtasn1-devel (development package)     - develoment package for 
>                                                          header and documents
> 5. References
>         [1] Homepage: http://josefsson.org/libtasn1/
>         [2] ASN.1 Information Site: http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr/en/index.htm
>         [3] ASN.1 Consortium: http://www.asn1.org/
>  
>
>
> 6. Resources and Schedule
>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>    	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
> 		Desktop
>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>
>   


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Subject: Re: libtasn1 for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/390 FastTrack timeout
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Irene Huang wrote:
> Hi, all
> 
> This case is due timeout on Tuesday (06/25/2008), any issue, please 
> raise before then.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --Irene
> Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
>> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
>> 1. Introduction
>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>      libtasn1 for OpenSolaris
>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>      Author:  Jeff Cai
>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>     19 June, 2008
>> ...
>>     4.2. Interfaces:
>>          Exported Interfaces
>>            Interface                        Classification      Comments
>>          ---------------                    --------------   -----------------------
>> ...
>>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
>> ...

Why is this library not versioned in the usual manner?  (E.g.
libtasn1.so.1, accompanied by a .so symlink pointing to the
"current" version for use by the normal linker environment.)

I don't know whether there's a SAC Best Practice for bringing
the license terms of libraries to the notice of developers who
might wish to use those libraries.  AFAICT this one is LGPL;
does that need to be mentioned anywhere?

Mike.
-- 
mike.oliver@sun.com


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Subject: Re: libtasn1 for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/390 FastTrack timeout
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On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 16:24 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:

> >> ...
> >>     4.2. Interfaces:
> >>          Exported Interfaces
> >>            Interface                        Classification      Comments
> >>          ---------------                    --------------   -----------------------
> >> ...
> >>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
> >> ...
> 
> Why is this library not versioned in the usual manner?  (E.g.
> libtasn1.so.1, accompanied by a .so symlink pointing to the
> "current" version for use by the normal linker environment.)
Sorry, this is my mistake.

/usr/lib/libtasn1.so          Volatile          Symbolic link
/usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3        Volatile          Symbolic link
/usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.15   Volatile          Shared library

Spec will be changed accordingly.

> 
> I don't know whether there's a SAC Best Practice for bringing
> the license terms of libraries to the notice of developers who
> might wish to use those libraries.  AFAICT this one is LGPL;
> does that need to be mentioned anywhere?

I'll mention that in libtasn1 man page.

Thanks

Jeff


> 
> Mike.


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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:44:02 +0800
From: Irene Huang <Irene.Huang@Sun.COM>
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	06/25/2008]
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Generally, we don't include license information in the manpage. For
Opensolaris project, we ship a copyright file in each package, I think
that will do. 

--Irene
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 10:10 +0800, Jeff Cai wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 16:24 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
> > Irene Huang wrote:
> 
> > >> ...
> > >>     4.2. Interfaces:
> > >>          Exported Interfaces
> > >>            Interface                        Classification      Comments
> > >>          ---------------                    --------------   -----------------------
> > >> ...
> > >>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
> > >> ...
> > 
> > Why is this library not versioned in the usual manner?  (E.g.
> > libtasn1.so.1, accompanied by a .so symlink pointing to the
> > "current" version for use by the normal linker environment.)
> Sorry, this is my mistake.
> 
> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so          Volatile          Symbolic link
> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3        Volatile          Symbolic link
> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.15   Volatile          Shared library
> 
> Spec will be changed accordingly.
> 
> > 
> > I don't know whether there's a SAC Best Practice for bringing
> > the license terms of libraries to the notice of developers who
> > might wish to use those libraries.  AFAICT this one is LGPL;
> > does that need to be mentioned anywhere?
> 
> I'll mention that in libtasn1 man page.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> > 
> > Mike.
> 


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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:47:58 +0800
From: Irene Huang <Irene.Huang@sun.com>
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	06/25/2008]
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Hi, Mike

if you are OK with the license indicated in the copyright file, please 
let me know and I would like to close this case as approved.

Thanks

--Irene
Irene Huang wrote:
> Generally, we don't include license information in the manpage. For
> Opensolaris project, we ship a copyright file in each package, I think
> that will do. 
>
> --Irene
> On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 10:10 +0800, Jeff Cai wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 16:24 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
>>     
>>> Irene Huang wrote:
>>>       
>>>>> ...
>>>>>     4.2. Interfaces:
>>>>>          Exported Interfaces
>>>>>            Interface                        Classification      Comments
>>>>>          ---------------                    --------------   -----------------------
>>>>> ...
>>>>>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        Shared library
>>>>> ...
>>>>>           
>>> Why is this library not versioned in the usual manner?  (E.g.
>>> libtasn1.so.1, accompanied by a .so symlink pointing to the
>>> "current" version for use by the normal linker environment.)
>>>       
>> Sorry, this is my mistake.
>>
>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so          Volatile          Symbolic link
>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3        Volatile          Symbolic link
>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.15   Volatile          Shared library
>>
>> Spec will be changed accordingly.
>>
>>     
>>> I don't know whether there's a SAC Best Practice for bringing
>>> the license terms of libraries to the notice of developers who
>>> might wish to use those libraries.  AFAICT this one is LGPL;
>>> does that need to be mentioned anywhere?
>>>       
>> I'll mention that in libtasn1 man page.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Mike.
>>>       
>
>   


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Irene Huang wrote:
> if you are OK with the license indicated in the copyright file, please 
> let me know and I would like to close this case as approved.

That seems like a strange place, because the people who need this
information are the developers who are deciding whether to use the
library and they typically won't see the package's 'copyright'
legal notice.  But if this is the procedure we've adopted for
reporting licensing information then that's good enough for me.

Mike.
-- 
mike.oliver@sun.com

> Irene Huang wrote:
>> Generally, we don't include license information in the manpage. For
>> Opensolaris project, we ship a copyright file in each package, I think
>> that will do.
>> --Irene
>> On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 10:10 +0800, Jeff Cai wrote:
>>  
>>> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 16:24 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Irene Huang wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>     4.2. Interfaces:
>>>>>>          Exported Interfaces
>>>>>>            Interface                        Classification      
>>>>>> Comments
>>>>>>          ---------------                    --------------   
>>>>>> -----------------------
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>          /usr/lib/libtasn1.so                Volatile        
>>>>>> Shared library
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>           
>>>> Why is this library not versioned in the usual manner?  (E.g.
>>>> libtasn1.so.1, accompanied by a .so symlink pointing to the
>>>> "current" version for use by the normal linker environment.)
>>>>       
>>> Sorry, this is my mistake.
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so          Volatile          Symbolic link
>>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3        Volatile          Symbolic link
>>> /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.15   Volatile          Shared library
>>>
>>> Spec will be changed accordingly.
>>>
>>>    
>>>> I don't know whether there's a SAC Best Practice for bringing
>>>> the license terms of libraries to the notice of developers who
>>>> might wish to use those libraries.  AFAICT this one is LGPL;
>>>> does that need to be mentioned anywhere?
>>>>       
>>> I'll mention that in libtasn1 man page.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>> Mike.
>>>>       
>>
>>   
> 


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OK, 

Let's put it in the manpage then. 

Any further issues? 
--Irene
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 09:30 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
> > if you are OK with the license indicated in the copyright file, please 
> > let me know and I would like to close this case as approved.
> 
> That seems like a strange place, because the people who need this
> information are the developers who are deciding whether to use the
> library and they typically won't see the package's 'copyright'
> legal notice.  But if this is the procedure we've adopted for
> reporting licensing information then that's good enough for me.
> 
> Mike.


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Subject: Re: libtasn1 for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/390 FastTrack timeout
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Irene Huang wrote:
> Let's put it in the manpage then. 

That's fine with me.

> Any further issues?

None from me.

Mike.
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mike.oliver@sun.com


> --Irene
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 09:30 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
>> Irene Huang wrote:
>>> if you are OK with the license indicated in the copyright file, please 
>>> let me know and I would like to close this case as approved.
>> That seems like a strange place, because the people who need this
>> information are the developers who are deciding whether to use the
>> library and they typically won't see the package's 'copyright'
>> legal notice.  But if this is the procedure we've adopted for
>> reporting licensing information then that's good enough for me.
>>
>> Mike.
> 


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Closing as approved. 

--Irene
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:26 -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
> > Let's put it in the manpage then. 
> 
> That's fine with me.
> 
> > Any further issues?
> 
> None from me.
> 
> Mike.


