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Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 tsclient for Opensolaris
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Halton Huo
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	02 July, 2008
4. Technical Description
Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems


1. Introduction
   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:

      tsclient

   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:

      Halton Huo

   1.3. Date of This Document:

      06/26/08
        
           1.3.1. Date this project was conceived:

            03/26/07

   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):

      1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:

            Solaris PAC

      1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:

            LSARC

      1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:

            robert.odea@sun.com

      1.4.4. The name of your business unit:

            OPG / OpenSource.

   1.5. Email Aliases:

      1.5.1. Responsible Manager:

            harry.lu@sun.com

      1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:

            halton.huo@sun.com

      1.5.3. Marketing Manager:

            glynn.foster@sun.com

      1.5.4. Interest List:

            desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org

4. Technical Description:
    4.1. Details:

         tsclient (Terminal Server Client) is a frontend for rdesktop and other
         remote desktop tools. It is a GNOME application. Notable visual
         options include color depth, screen size, and motion blocking.

         Features include: 
         - a GNOME panel applet to quickly launch saved profiles
         - similar look and functionality to the Microsoft client and
           compatibility with its file format
         - support for rdesktop(1) 1.3, Xephyr and VNC clients like
           vncviewer(1)

         /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
         choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
         chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
         parameters.
         - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
           command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
         - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
           command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
           There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
         - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
           command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
         - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
           command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
         - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
           This will call command "wfica", which is not available on Solaris.
           command is like "wfica -description <hostname>" 
        
         This proposal adds version 0.150, the latest stable release.

         The tsclient program supports the following options:
         Usage: tsclient [OPTION]... [FILE]...
         FILE           an rdp format file containing options
         -h, --help     display this help and exit
         -v, --version  output version information and exit
         -x FILE        launch rdesktop with options specified in FILE

         /usr/lib/tsclient-applet is a GNOME panel applet, is aim to 
         launch saved profiles.


    4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):

      None.

    4.3. In Scope:

      See above.

    4.4. Out of Scope:

      See above.

    4.5. Interfaces:
       
                                   Exported  Interface 

        Interface Name                                        Classification     Comment
        -------------------                                   ---------------    --------------       
        SUNWtsclient                                          Uncommitted        Package name
        /usr/bin/tsclient                                     Volatile           tsclient GUI
        /usr/lib/tsclient-applet                              Volatile           GNOME panel applet
        /usr/share/applications/tsclient.desktop              Volatile           UI spec
        /usr/share/mime-info/tsclient.keys                    Volatile           mime info
        /usr/share/mime-info/tsclient.mime                    Volatile           mime info
        /usr/share/application-registry/tsclient.applications Volatile           mime type handler
        /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/GNOME_TSClientApplet.server   Volatile           bonobo server file
        /usr/share/man/man1/tsclient.1                        Volatile           Manpage
        /usr/share/pixmaps/tsclient                           Project Private    Directory
        /usr/share/pixmaps/tsclient.png                       Project Private    icon 

                                    Imported  Interface 

        Interface       Classification          ARC case                Comment
        --------        ---------------         ----------              ------------------
        rdesktop        Volatile                LSARC 2008/083          rdp CLI tool
        vncviewer       Volatile                LSARC 2007/625          vnc CLI client tool
        Xephyr          Volatile                PSARC 2007/051          Xephyr CLI tool
        GNOME Libraries Committed               LSARC 2005/734          

              
    4.6. Doc Impact:

           New manpage, tsclient.1.

    4.7. Admin/Config Impact:

      This tool might be used by Administrators, who want to control their
      machines with Remote Desktop enabled.

    4.8. HA Impact:

      None.

    4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:

      The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and
      provide I18N/L10N support.

    4.10. Packaging & Delivery:

      Adds new package, SUNWtsclient, approx 458 KB.
      Package will only go into SUNWCall and SUNWCXall clusters.

    4.11. Security Impact:

      tsclient is a wrapper tool for rdesktop, vncviewer, Xephyr, itself
      does not have any security issue. 

    4.12. Dependencies:

      The following versions of the imported interfaces are required:
         rdesktop
         vncviewer
         Xephyr
      They are optional dependencies, without them, tsclient can run, but 
      without releated feature.
      

5. Reference Documents:

      [1] tsclient homepage: 
          http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsclient

      [2] Related ARC Cases:
          LSARC 2008/083: rdesktop
          LSARC 2007/625: vncviewer
          PSARC 2007/051: xorg server upgrade to 7.2 
          LSARC 2005/734: GNOME For Nevada


6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		Desktop
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


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Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
> 1. Introduction
>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 	 tsclient for Opensolaris

It's about time, too!

When will this fasttrack timeout?



James C. McPherson
--
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Sun Microsystems
http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog

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James 

The time out is set to be 07/08/2008, next Tuesday. 

--Irene
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 20:16 +1000, James C. McPherson wrote:
> Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
> > This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
> > 1. Introduction
> >     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> > 	 tsclient for Opensolaris
> 
> It's about time, too!
> 
> When will this fasttrack timeout?
> 
> 
> 
> James C. McPherson
> --
> Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
> Sun Microsystems
> http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog


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Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
>          /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
>          choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
>          chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
>          parameters.
>          - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
>            command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
>          - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
>            command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
>            There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)

I already asked this in the review on the JDS lists earlier and Halton said
he was going to look into it, but since you filed the ARC case before that
was answered, the question is still open, and affects the imported interfaces:

> On systems that have Sun's Windows Desktop Connector installed
> (from the Sun Ray Software set), will it use that instead of rdesktop
> for RDP connections?


-- 
	-Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith@sun.com
	 Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering


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On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 07:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> >          /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
> >          choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
> >          chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
> >          parameters.
> >          - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
> >            command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
> >          - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
> >            command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
> >            There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
> 
> I already asked this in the review on the JDS lists earlier and Halton said
> he was going to look into it, but since you filed the ARC case before that
> was answered, the question is still open, and affects the imported interfaces:
> 
> > On systems that have Sun's Windows Desktop Connector installed
> > (from the Sun Ray Software set), will it use that instead of rdesktop
> > for RDP connections?
﻿Alan,

Here's update for your questions.
1) ﻿Do you want to support "Sun's Windows Desktop Connector"
Yes.

After talked with ﻿Padu Iyer and ﻿Sangeeta Varma tsclient is going to
support the Sun Ray Windows Connector, whose CLI name is uttsc. For
this, we'll add one more connection type called "﻿RDP v5 (Sun Ray
Version)", which is actually called "/opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc".

For RDP and RDP v5, tsclient will still call rdesktop, please check the
discussion attached for details.

2) ﻿Will the ICA stuff work if Citrix is installed or is it compiled
out?
﻿Craig Bender is on vacation until ﻿7th of July, I'm still waiting.

I'll send out updated version ﻿together when I get I have answer to
question #2.

Thanks,
Halton.

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Harry,

The one caveat for Sun Ray Windows Connector is that it can only be used 
on a Sun Ray server from a Sun Ray unit today.  It is an addon layered 
product installed on top of Solaris and part of the Sun Ray Software 
packages.
It is installed under /opt/SUNWuttsc, and the path for the executable is 
/opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc

I would not consider going with option 1 because of the above reason (it 
being SRS dependent). In that sense  option 2 would be preferable.

The CLI usage is very similar to rdesktop. In fact we did our best to 
keep the options similar. If you want to try it out, you will need to 
install it on a Sun Ray server and need access to a Sun Ray. Where are 
you located ? We are in MPK-14. If you like I can show you how it works 
to clear things up.

-Sangeeta

Harry Lu wrote:
> Sangeeta,
> 
>     Yes, we'd like to support uttsc in tsclient. We'd like to hear your 
> suggestion on how to change tsclient.
> 
>     Is the "RDP v5" uttsc supports the same as the "RDP v5" rdesktop 
> supports?  What is the full path for uttsc, /usr/bin/uttsc?
> 
>     Which one of the following do you refer?
> 
>     1. Leave only one RDP v5 option in the UI. When user select it, 
> tsclient will try to use uttsc first, if cannot find it in path, then 
> use rdesktop.
> 
>     2. Add another option RDP v5 (Sun Ray version, or whatever the name 
> you give us) to the UI. If user select it, tsclient will try to use uttsc.
> 
>     And is the command like "uttsc <hostname>"?
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry
> 
> sangeeta varma wrote:
> 
>>
>> Halto,
>>
>> SRWC (a.k.a. uttsc) only supports RDP v5.
>>
>> I am familiar with tsclient from the open source community and have 
>> used it in the past.
>>
>> -Sangeeta
>>
>> Halton Huo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sangeeta,
>>>
>>> Could you have a look on tsclient GUI?
>>>
>>> There are five protocols can be chosen:
>>> - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
>>>   command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
>>> - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
>>>   command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
>>> - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
>>>   command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
>>> - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
>>>   command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
>>> - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
>>>   This will call command "wfica", which is not available on Solaris.
>>>
>>> I guess SRWC is belong to none of them. Could you add your in?
>>>
>>> If you want to have a try on tsclient, please install my package from
>>> #cd /net/judo.prc/export/home/halton/packages/PKGS
>>> #pkgadd -d . SUNWtsclient
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Halton.
>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 20:13 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Harry,
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks for the reply.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Do you mean it only works for Sun implemented RDP server and 
>>>>> won't work
>>>>> for normal Windows RDP server?
>>>>>         
>>>>
>>>> uttsc CLI will work only with our implementation of RDP.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>>     In that case, I think we don't need to modify tsclient to support
>>>>> uttsc. What do you think?
>>>>>         
>>>>
>>>> We have a request pending for a long time to provide a GUI for our 
>>>> Sun Ray Windows Connector (SRWC). So if you have the cycles, it'll 
>>>> be wonderful if you can modify tsclient to work with our SRWC.
>>>>
>>>> I've included Sangeeta who is the Tech Lead for SRWC. She may have 
>>>> additional comments.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Padu
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:22 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> Halton,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We implemented our own CLI called uttsc. This will work with our
>>>>>> (Sun's) implementation of the RDP protocol only. So this will not 
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> with RDesktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this answer your first question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Padu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Halton Huo wrote:           
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Padu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm now proting tsclient, which is supposed to be integrated into
>>>>>>> Solaris for OpenSolaris 2008.11. tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool for
>>>>>>> rdesktop and other remote desktop tools like vncviewer.
>>>>>>> Alan introduced me that your team is implementing 
>>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿"Sun's Windows
>>>>>>> Desktop Connector". I want to tsclient is aware if your tool is
>>>>>>> available on system.
>>>>>>> Can you offer me some information?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Ã¯Â»Â¿Is there a CLI tool available? And what is the cmd 
>>>>>>> called? If no,
>>>>>>> please ignore my all other questions.
>>>>>>> 2) What's the option if RDP v4(Windows 2000 and older systems)? An
>>>>>>> example is good.
>>>>>>> 3) What's the option if RDP v5(Windows XP and newer systems)? 
>>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿ An
>>>>>>> example is good.
>>>>>>> 4) Where can I get it and have a try? Ã¯Â»Â¿An instruction 
>>>>>>> is good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please refer to Ã¯Â»Â¿LSARC/2008/414 or write emails to me 
>>>>>>> if you have any
>>>>>>> questions for tsclient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Halton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
> 

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Hi, Alan and all

If you do not object it
I'll close this case as approved tomorrow and leave two TCAs for this
case

1. support RDP v5
2. Follow up with the ICA issue. If it is confirmed that the client is
available, make tsclient support it as well. 

When there's update, Halton will come back with updated materials. 

Please let me know if you don't agree. 

Thanks 

--Irene
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:14 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 07:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> > >          /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
> > >          choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
> > >          chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
> > >          parameters.
> > >          - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
> > >            command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
> > >          - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
> > >            command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
> > >            There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
> > 
> > I already asked this in the review on the JDS lists earlier and Halton said
> > he was going to look into it, but since you filed the ARC case before that
> > was answered, the question is still open, and affects the imported interfaces:
> > 
> > > On systems that have Sun's Windows Desktop Connector installed
> > > (from the Sun Ray Software set), will it use that instead of rdesktop
> > > for RDP connections?
> ﻿Alan,
> 
> Here's update for your questions.
> 1) ﻿Do you want to support "Sun's Windows Desktop Connector"
> Yes.
> 
> After talked with ﻿Padu Iyer and ﻿Sangeeta Varma tsclient is going to
> support the Sun Ray Windows Connector, whose CLI name is uttsc. For
> this, we'll add one more connection type called "﻿RDP v5 (Sun Ray
> Version)", which is actually called "/opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc".
> 
> For RDP and RDP v5, tsclient will still call rdesktop, please check the
> discussion attached for details.
> 
> 2) ﻿Will the ICA stuff work if Citrix is installed or is it compiled
> out?
> ﻿Craig Bender is on vacation until ﻿7th of July, I'm still waiting.
> 
> I'll send out updated version ﻿together when I get I have answer to
> question #2.
> 
> Thanks,
> Halton.
> email message attachment, "Attached message - Re: Sun's Windows
> Desktop Connector"
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Sangeeta Varma <Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM>
> > Reply-To: Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM
> > To: Harry Lu <Harry.Lu@Sun.COM>
> > Cc: Halton Huo <Halton.Huo@Sun.COM>, Padu Iyer <Padu.Iyer@Sun.COM>,
> > Sangeeta Varma <Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Sun's Windows Desktop Connector
> > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:18:39 -0700
> > Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7)
> > Gecko/20060629
> > 
> > Harry,
> > 
> > The one caveat for Sun Ray Windows Connector is that it can only be used 
> > on a Sun Ray server from a Sun Ray unit today.  It is an addon layered 
> > product installed on top of Solaris and part of the Sun Ray Software 
> > packages.
> > It is installed under /opt/SUNWuttsc, and the path for the executable is 
> > /opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc
> > 
> > I would not consider going with option 1 because of the above reason (it 
> > being SRS dependent). In that sense  option 2 would be preferable.
> > 
> > The CLI usage is very similar to rdesktop. In fact we did our best to 
> > keep the options similar. If you want to try it out, you will need to 
> > install it on a Sun Ray server and need access to a Sun Ray. Where are 
> > you located ? We are in MPK-14. If you like I can show you how it works 
> > to clear things up.
> > 
> > -Sangeeta
> > 
> > Harry Lu wrote:
> > > Sangeeta,
> > > 
> > >     Yes, we'd like to support uttsc in tsclient. We'd like to hear your 
> > > suggestion on how to change tsclient.
> > > 
> > >     Is the "RDP v5" uttsc supports the same as the "RDP v5" rdesktop 
> > > supports?  What is the full path for uttsc, /usr/bin/uttsc?
> > > 
> > >     Which one of the following do you refer?
> > > 
> > >     1. Leave only one RDP v5 option in the UI. When user select it, 
> > > tsclient will try to use uttsc first, if cannot find it in path, then 
> > > use rdesktop.
> > > 
> > >     2. Add another option RDP v5 (Sun Ray version, or whatever the name 
> > > you give us) to the UI. If user select it, tsclient will try to use uttsc.
> > > 
> > >     And is the command like "uttsc <hostname>"?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Harry
> > > 
> > > sangeeta varma wrote:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> Halto,
> > >>
> > >> SRWC (a.k.a. uttsc) only supports RDP v5.
> > >>
> > >> I am familiar with tsclient from the open source community and have 
> > >> used it in the past.
> > >>
> > >> -Sangeeta
> > >>
> > >> Halton Huo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Sangeeta,
> > >>>
> > >>> Could you have a look on tsclient GUI?
> > >>>
> > >>> There are five protocols can be chosen:
> > >>> - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
> > >>>   command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
> > >>> - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
> > >>>   command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
> > >>> - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
> > >>>   command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
> > >>> - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
> > >>>   command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
> > >>> - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
> > >>>   This will call command "wfica", which is not available on Solaris.
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess SRWC is belong to none of them. Could you add your in?
> > >>>
> > >>> If you want to have a try on tsclient, please install my package from
> > >>> #cd /net/judo.prc/export/home/halton/packages/PKGS
> > >>> #pkgadd -d . SUNWtsclient
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Halton.
> > >>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 20:13 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>>> Harry,
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>     Thanks for the reply.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>     Do you mean it only works for Sun implemented RDP server and 
> > >>>>> won't work
> > >>>>> for normal Windows RDP server?
> > >>>>>         
> > >>>>
> > >>>> uttsc CLI will work only with our implementation of RDP.
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>     In that case, I think we don't need to modify tsclient to support
> > >>>>> uttsc. What do you think?
> > >>>>>         
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have a request pending for a long time to provide a GUI for our 
> > >>>> Sun Ray Windows Connector (SRWC). So if you have the cycles, it'll 
> > >>>> be wonderful if you can modify tsclient to work with our SRWC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've included Sangeeta who is the Tech Lead for SRWC. She may have 
> > >>>> additional comments.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks.
> > >>>> Padu
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Harry
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:22 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
> > >>>>>       
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Halton,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We implemented our own CLI called uttsc. This will work with our
> > >>>>>> (Sun's) implementation of the RDP protocol only. So this will not 
> > >>>>>> work
> > >>>>>> with RDesktop.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Does this answer your first question?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Padu
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Halton Huo wrote:           
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Padu,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm now proting tsclient, which is supposed to be integrated into
> > >>>>>>> Solaris for OpenSolaris 2008.11. tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool for
> > >>>>>>> rdesktop and other remote desktop tools like vncviewer.
> > >>>>>>> Alan introduced me that your team is implementing 
> > >>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿"Sun's Windows
> > >>>>>>> Desktop Connector". I want to tsclient is aware if your tool is
> > >>>>>>> available on system.
> > >>>>>>> Can you offer me some information?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1) Ã¯Â»Â¿Is there a CLI tool available? And what is the cmd 
> > >>>>>>> called? If no,
> > >>>>>>> please ignore my all other questions.
> > >>>>>>> 2) What's the option if RDP v4(Windows 2000 and older systems)? An
> > >>>>>>> example is good.
> > >>>>>>> 3) What's the option if RDP v5(Windows XP and newer systems)? 
> > >>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿ An
> > >>>>>>> example is good.
> > >>>>>>> 4) Where can I get it and have a try? Ã¯Â»Â¿An instruction 
> > >>>>>>> is good.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please refer to Ã¯Â»Â¿LSARC/2008/414 or write emails to me 
> > >>>>>>> if you have any
> > >>>>>>> questions for tsclient.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> Halton.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>                  
> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> > > 


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Irene Huang wrote:
> Hi, Alan and all
> 
> If you do not object it
> I'll close this case as approved tomorrow and leave two TCAs for this
> case

Fast-tracks do not have TCAs only full cases.

> 1. support RDP v5
> 2. Follow up with the ICA issue. If it is confirmed that the client is
> available, make tsclient support it as well. 

> Please let me know if you don't agree. 

I don't agree I think the answers to both of those needs to come from 
the project team before the case can close.

So extend the timer until the project team is able to answer.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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OK, Let's extend the case, until Halton come back with an answer.

--Irene
Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
>> Hi, Alan and all
>>
>> If you do not object it
>> I'll close this case as approved tomorrow and leave two TCAs for this
>> case
>
> Fast-tracks do not have TCAs only full cases.
>
>> 1. support RDP v5
>> 2. Follow up with the ICA issue. If it is confirmed that the client is
>> available, make tsclient support it as well. 
>
>> Please let me know if you don't agree. 
>
> I don't agree I think the answers to both of those needs to come from 
> the project team before the case can close.
>
> So extend the timer until the project team is able to answer.
>


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Irene Huang wrote:
> OK, Let's extend the case, until Halton come back with an answer.

If that is open ended then put the case in "waiting need spec"  if you 
know when the answer is likely to come back then take that date and add 
1 or 2 days.

Either way the IAM file needs updating.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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Updated with "waiting need spec" :)

--Irene
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 11:47 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
> > OK, Let's extend the case, until Halton come back with an answer.
> 
> If that is open ended then put the case in "waiting need spec"  if you 
> know when the answer is likely to come back then take that date and add 
> 1 or 2 days.
> 
> Either way the IAM file needs updating.
> 


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Alan,

Here comes update for your question #2.
Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
details.

I'm now sending out the updated one-pager, which includes information
for question #1 and #2.

Thanks,
Halton.

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:14 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 07:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> > >          /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
> > >          choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
> > >          chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
> > >          parameters.
> > >          - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
> > >            command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
> > >          - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
> > >            command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
> > >            There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
> > 
> > I already asked this in the review on the JDS lists earlier and Halton said
> > he was going to look into it, but since you filed the ARC case before that
> > was answered, the question is still open, and affects the imported interfaces:
> > 
> > > On systems that have Sun's Windows Desktop Connector installed
> > > (from the Sun Ray Software set), will it use that instead of rdesktop
> > > for RDP connections?
> ﻿Alan,
> 
> Here's update for your questions.
> 1) ﻿Do you want to support "Sun's Windows Desktop Connector"
> Yes.
> 
> After talked with ﻿Padu Iyer and ﻿Sangeeta Varma tsclient is going to
> support the Sun Ray Windows Connector, whose CLI name is uttsc. For
> this, we'll add one more connection type called "﻿RDP v5 (Sun Ray
> Version)", which is actually called "/opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc".
> 
> For RDP and RDP v5, tsclient will still call rdesktop, please check the
> discussion attached for details.
> 
> 2) ﻿Will the ICA stuff work if Citrix is installed or is it compiled
> out?
> ﻿Craig Bender is on vacation until ﻿7th of July, I'm still waiting.
> 
> I'll send out updated version ﻿together when I get I have answer to
> question #2.
> 
> Thanks,
> Halton.
> email message attachment, "Attached message - Re: Sun's Windows
> Desktop Connector"
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Sangeeta Varma <Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM>
> > Reply-to: Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM
> > To: Harry Lu <Harry.Lu@Sun.COM>
> > Cc: Halton Huo <Halton.Huo@Sun.COM>, Padu Iyer <Padu.Iyer@Sun.COM>,
> > Sangeeta Varma <Sangeeta.Varma@Sun.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Sun's Windows Desktop Connector
> > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:18:39 -0700
> > 
> > Harry,
> > 
> > The one caveat for Sun Ray Windows Connector is that it can only be used 
> > on a Sun Ray server from a Sun Ray unit today.  It is an addon layered 
> > product installed on top of Solaris and part of the Sun Ray Software 
> > packages.
> > It is installed under /opt/SUNWuttsc, and the path for the executable is 
> > /opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc
> > 
> > I would not consider going with option 1 because of the above reason (it 
> > being SRS dependent). In that sense  option 2 would be preferable.
> > 
> > The CLI usage is very similar to rdesktop. In fact we did our best to 
> > keep the options similar. If you want to try it out, you will need to 
> > install it on a Sun Ray server and need access to a Sun Ray. Where are 
> > you located ? We are in MPK-14. If you like I can show you how it works 
> > to clear things up.
> > 
> > -Sangeeta
> > 
> > Harry Lu wrote:
> > > Sangeeta,
> > > 
> > >     Yes, we'd like to support uttsc in tsclient. We'd like to hear your 
> > > suggestion on how to change tsclient.
> > > 
> > >     Is the "RDP v5" uttsc supports the same as the "RDP v5" rdesktop 
> > > supports?  What is the full path for uttsc, /usr/bin/uttsc?
> > > 
> > >     Which one of the following do you refer?
> > > 
> > >     1. Leave only one RDP v5 option in the UI. When user select it, 
> > > tsclient will try to use uttsc first, if cannot find it in path, then 
> > > use rdesktop.
> > > 
> > >     2. Add another option RDP v5 (Sun Ray version, or whatever the name 
> > > you give us) to the UI. If user select it, tsclient will try to use uttsc.
> > > 
> > >     And is the command like "uttsc <hostname>"?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Harry
> > > 
> > > sangeeta varma wrote:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> Halto,
> > >>
> > >> SRWC (a.k.a. uttsc) only supports RDP v5.
> > >>
> > >> I am familiar with tsclient from the open source community and have 
> > >> used it in the past.
> > >>
> > >> -Sangeeta
> > >>
> > >> Halton Huo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Sangeeta,
> > >>>
> > >>> Could you have a look on tsclient GUI?
> > >>>
> > >>> There are five protocols can be chosen:
> > >>> - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
> > >>>   command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
> > >>> - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
> > >>>   command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
> > >>> - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
> > >>>   command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
> > >>> - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
> > >>>   command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
> > >>> - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
> > >>>   This will call command "wfica", which is not available on Solaris.
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess SRWC is belong to none of them. Could you add your in?
> > >>>
> > >>> If you want to have a try on tsclient, please install my package from
> > >>> #cd /net/judo.prc/export/home/halton/packages/PKGS
> > >>> #pkgadd -d . SUNWtsclient
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Halton.
> > >>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 20:13 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>>> Harry,
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>     Thanks for the reply.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>     Do you mean it only works for Sun implemented RDP server and 
> > >>>>> won't work
> > >>>>> for normal Windows RDP server?
> > >>>>>         
> > >>>>
> > >>>> uttsc CLI will work only with our implementation of RDP.
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>     In that case, I think we don't need to modify tsclient to support
> > >>>>> uttsc. What do you think?
> > >>>>>         
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have a request pending for a long time to provide a GUI for our 
> > >>>> Sun Ray Windows Connector (SRWC). So if you have the cycles, it'll 
> > >>>> be wonderful if you can modify tsclient to work with our SRWC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've included Sangeeta who is the Tech Lead for SRWC. She may have 
> > >>>> additional comments.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks.
> > >>>> Padu
> > >>>>   
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Harry
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:22 -0700, Padu Iyer wrote:
> > >>>>>       
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Halton,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We implemented our own CLI called uttsc. This will work with our
> > >>>>>> (Sun's) implementation of the RDP protocol only. So this will not 
> > >>>>>> work
> > >>>>>> with RDesktop.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Does this answer your first question?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Padu
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Halton Huo wrote:           
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Padu,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm now proting tsclient, which is supposed to be integrated into
> > >>>>>>> Solaris for OpenSolaris 2008.11. tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool for
> > >>>>>>> rdesktop and other remote desktop tools like vncviewer.
> > >>>>>>> Alan introduced me that your team is implementing 
> > >>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿"Sun's Windows
> > >>>>>>> Desktop Connector". I want to tsclient is aware if your tool is
> > >>>>>>> available on system.
> > >>>>>>> Can you offer me some information?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1) Ã¯Â»Â¿Is there a CLI tool available? And what is the cmd 
> > >>>>>>> called? If no,
> > >>>>>>> please ignore my all other questions.
> > >>>>>>> 2) What's the option if RDP v4(Windows 2000 and older systems)? An
> > >>>>>>> example is good.
> > >>>>>>> 3) What's the option if RDP v5(Windows XP and newer systems)? 
> > >>>>>>> Ã¯Â»Â¿ An
> > >>>>>>> example is good.
> > >>>>>>> 4) Where can I get it and have a try? Ã¯Â»Â¿An instruction 
> > >>>>>>> is good.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please refer to Ã¯Â»Â¿LSARC/2008/414 or write emails to me 
> > >>>>>>> if you have any
> > >>>>>>> questions for tsclient.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> Halton.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>                  
> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> > > 

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1. Introduction
   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:

      tsclient

   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:

      Halton Huo

   1.3. Date of This Document:

      07/22/08
	
	   1.3.1. Date this project was conceived:

            03/26/07

   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):

      1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:

            Solaris PAC

      1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:

            LSARC

      1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:

            robert.odea@sun.com

      1.4.4. The name of your business unit:

            OPG / OpenSource.

   1.5. Email Aliases:

      1.5.1. Responsible Manager:

            harry.lu@sun.com

      1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:

            halton.huo@sun.com

      1.5.3. Marketing Manager:

            glynn.foster@sun.com

      1.5.4. Interest List:

            desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org

4. Technical Description:
    4.1. Details:

         tsclient (Terminal Server Client) is a frontend for rdesktop and other
         remote desktop tools. It is a GNOME application. Notable visual
         options include color depth, screen size, and motion blocking.

         Features include: 
         - a GNOME panel applet to quickly launch saved profiles
         - similar look and functionality to the Microsoft client and
           compatibility with its file format
         - support for rdesktop(1) 1.3, uttsc(1), Xephyr and VNC clients like
           vncviewer(1)

         /usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
         choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
         chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
         parameters.
         - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
           command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
         - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
           command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
           There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
         - RDP v5 (Sun Ray version)
           command is like "/opt/SUNWuttsc/bin/uttsc <hostname>"
         - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
           command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
         - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
           command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
         - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
           command is like "wfica -description <hostname>" 
        
         This proposal adds version 0.150, the latest stable release.

         The tsclient program supports the following options:
         Usage: tsclient [OPTION]... [FILE]...
         FILE           an rdp format file containing options
         -h, --help     display this help and exit
         -v, --version  output version information and exit
         -x FILE        launch rdesktop with options specified in FILE

         /usr/lib/tsclient-applet is a GNOME panel applet, is aim to 
         launch saved profiles.


    4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):

      None.

    4.3. In Scope:

      See above.

    4.4. Out of Scope:

      See above.

    4.5. Interfaces:
       
                                   Exported  Interface 

        Interface Name                                        Classification     Comment
        -------------------                                   ---------------    --------------       
        SUNWtsclient                                          Uncommitted        Package name
        /usr/bin/tsclient                                     Volatile           tsclient GUI
        /usr/lib/tsclient-applet                              Volatile           GNOME panel applet
        /usr/share/applications/tsclient.desktop              Volatile           UI spec
        /usr/share/mime-info/tsclient.keys                    Volatile           mime info
        /usr/share/mime-info/tsclient.mime                    Volatile           mime info
        /usr/share/application-registry/tsclient.applications Volatile           mime type handler
        /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/GNOME_TSClientApplet.server   Volatile           bonobo server file

                                    Imported  Interface 

        Interface       Classification          ARC case                Comment
        --------        ---------------         ----------              ------------------
        rdesktop        Volatile                LSARC 2008/083          rdp CLI tool
        vncviewer       Volatile                LSARC 2007/625          vnc CLI client tool
        Xephyr          Volatile                PSARC 2007/051          Xephyr CLI tool
        uttsc           Committed               IASWARC 2005/0024       SUN RDP CLI tool
        GNOME Libraries Committed               LSARC 2005/734          

              
    4.6. Doc Impact:

	   New manpage, tsclient.1.

    4.7. Admin/Config Impact:

      This tool might be used by Administrators, who want to control their
      machines with Remote Desktop enabled.

    4.8. HA Impact:

      None.

    4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:

      The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and
      provide I18N/L10N support.

    4.10. Packaging & Delivery:

      Adds new package, SUNWtsclient, approx 458 KB.
      Package will only go into SUNWCall and SUNWCXall clusters.

    4.11. Security Impact:

      tsclient is a wrapper tool for rdesktop, vncviewer, Xephyr and uttsc,
      itself does not have any security issue. 

    4.12. Dependencies:

      The following versions of the imported interfaces are required:
         rdesktop
         vncviewer
         Xephyr
         uttsc
      They are optional dependencies, without them, tsclient can run, but 
      without releated feature.
      

5. Reference Documents:

      [1] tsclient homepage: 
          http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsclient

      [2] Related ARC Cases:
          LSARC 2008/083: rdesktop
          LSARC 2007/625: vncviewer
          PSARC 2007/051: xorg server upgrade to 7.2
          IASWARC 2005/0024: Sun RDP solution
          LSARC 2005/734: GNOME For Nevada

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I don't think I'm misunderstanding and I fully understand what tsclient 
is (having compiled it for Solaris a long time ago and was one of my top 
internal downloads).

Citrix provides clients free of charge, which you can get from here:

http://www.citrix.com/English/ss/downloads/details.asp?downloadId=3283&productId=186&c1=sot2755

Like I said, if you want support calling it via tsclient that's fine, 
but it's not the right vehicle to configure a citrix session.  You can 
have tsclient check for the users $HOME/.ICAClient structure and 
required files, but it would be up to the user to ensure that the Citrix 
client is installed and configured correctly for each user.

Then I'd imagine you'd have a text box that called the description of 
the connection and then two checkbox options "-quiet" and "-nosplash". 
The former gets rid of all the normal "attempting to contact server" GUI 
messages and the latter disables the Citrix ICA Logo from coming up when 
the client is called.

I wouldn't worry about Presentation Server for Unix, you care about the 
Windows Version which is a layered product for Terminal Server.  You can 
get a one user version if you sign up at mycitrix.com for testimg.

There is no ARC case for a Solaris Citrix client, as Citrix provides the 
client.




Harry Lu wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 08:53 -0700, Craig Bender wrote:
>> Since the Citrix client is not open source, how can you even consider 
>> adding it's functionality to a OpenSolaris program?
> 
> Maybe there is some misunderstanding here. The tsclient is a GUI wrapper
> application will will call different tools for different servers. Here
> is from its ARC case:
> 
> 
> "﻿/usr/bin/tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool. When it starts up, user can
>  choose connection protocol from a combo box. Depending on the protocol
>  chosen, it will call the relevant programs and with corresponding
>  parameters.
>     - RDP (connect to Microsoft Windows 2000 and older systems)
>       command is like "rdesktop -4 <hostname>"
>     - RDP v5 (connect to Microsoft Windows XP and newer systems)
>       command is like "rdesktop <hostname>"
>       There is no "-5" here because it is default for rdesktop(1)
>     - VNC (connect to systems sharing the desktop by using VNC)
>       command is like "vncviewer <hostname>"
>     - XDMCP (connect to servers running X)
>       command is like "Xephyr :1 -once -query <hostname>"
>     - ICA (connect to Citrix servers)
>       This will call command "wfica", which is not available on Solaris.
>       command is like "wfica -description <hostname>" 
> "
> 
> The questions raised during the ARC reivew, "﻿Will the ICA stuff work if
> Citrix is installed or is it compiled out?"
> 
> We are not familiar with the technologies with Citrix. So we need your
> help here.  Is the Citrix server in Solaris is same as the one
> downloaded from http://www.citrix.com ?  Is wfica part of the Citrix
> client for Solaris? If so, I guess tsclient should be able to call wfica
> in Solaris to connect to Citrix server.
> 
> Do you have a ARC case number for Citrix client in Solaris?
> 
> As you said, Citrix already has its own GUI. So maybe we doesn't need to
> make tsclient to support Citrix in Solaris. If so, we can remove that
> part of code in tsclient in Solaris.
> 
> What is your suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry
> 
> 
> 
>> Citrix has it's own GUI (aka TSClient), not sure why we'd want to 
>> recreate the wheel.  But if it's being demanded, then I guess just add 
>> the functionality to call wfica -desc "Some Desc" with the additonal 
>> options of calling -nosplash and -quiet.  Then you could do a very 
>> simple check to see if $HOME/.ICAClient exists and if wfclient.ini and 
>> appsrv.ini exist and throw and error if they do not.  From there Citrix 
>> will handle the error messages (including if the connection description 
>> does not exist.
>>
>> Harry Lu wrote:
>>> Hi Craig,
>>>
>>>    Yeah, it looks a little complicated. tsclient is one of the open 
>>> source packages that we need to integrate into OpenSolaris 2008.11. We 
>>> don't want to put too much resources on it. Will you agree if we don't 
>>> patch tsclient to support Citrix?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Craig Bender wrote:
>>>> Hi Halton,
>>>>
>>>> Citrix is a bit more complicated then just calling wfica.  It needs to 
>>>> be configured with it's own client first and then relies a at least 
>>>> two (most likely four) ini files to read the config from.
>>>>
>>>> So you'd have to parse what's the minimum these config files need, 
>>>> have tsclient create them and then have then call wfica.
>>>>
>>>> You can look at the Citrix how to guide on 
>>>> http://webhome.sfbay/Interop to get a flavor of what the Citrix client 
>>>> configurations are like, or you could just install the Solaris client, 
>>>> configure a connection, then look in your $HOME/.ICAClient 
>>>> subdirectory for what is required.
>>>>
>>>> Halton Huo wrote:
>>>>> Craig,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping, are you back from vacation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Halton.
>>>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 18:30 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
>>>>>> ﻿Hi Craig,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm now proting tsclient, which is supposed to be integrated into
>>>>>> Solaris for OpenSolaris 2008.11. tsclient is a GUI wrapper tool for
>>>>>> rdesktop and other remote desktop tools like vncviewer.
>>>>>> ﻿tslcient is now calling "wfica -description <hostname>" when connects
>>>>>> to a Citrix server. ﻿Alan introduced me that your team is
>>>>>> implementing ﻿"﻿Citrix". I want to tsclient is aware if your tool is
>>>>>> available on system.
>>>>>> Can you offer me some information?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) ﻿Is there a CLI client tool available? And what is the cmd 
>>>>>> called? If
>>>>>> no, please ignore my all other questions.
>>>>>> 2) What's the option to connect to a Citrix server? An example is good.
>>>>>> 3) Where can I get it and have a try? ﻿An instruction is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please refer to ﻿LSARC/2008/414 or write emails to me if you have any
>>>>>> questions for tsclient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Halton.

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Halton Huo wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> Here comes update for your question #2.
> Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> details.

So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
able to run if the user has wfica installed?

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On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 07:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Halton Huo wrote:
> > Alan,
> > 
> > Here comes update for your question #2.
> > Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> > client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> > Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> > do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> > details.
> 
> So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
> machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
> able to run if the user has wfica installed?
Yes, it is correct.

-Halton.


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	07/29/2008]
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Hi, all 

I am setting the status of this case to be "waiting fast-track
07/29/2008" 

The new timeout is 07/29/2008

Thanks 

--irene
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 11:16 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 07:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > Halton Huo wrote:
> > > Alan,
> > > 
> > > Here comes update for your question #2.
> > > Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> > > client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> > > Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> > > do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> > > details.
> > 
> > So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
> > machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
> > able to run if the user has wfica installed?
> Yes, it is correct.
> 
> -Halton.
> 


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if there's no more issues with this case, I'll close it as approve in 24
hours. 

Thanks 

--Irene
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 18:28 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> Hi, all 
> 
> I am setting the status of this case to be "waiting fast-track
> 07/29/2008" 
> 
> The new timeout is 07/29/2008
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> --irene
> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 11:16 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 07:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > > Halton Huo wrote:
> > > > Alan,
> > > > 
> > > > Here comes update for your question #2.
> > > > Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> > > > client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> > > > Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> > > > do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> > > > details.
> > > 
> > > So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
> > > machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
> > > able to run if the user has wfica installed?
> > Yes, it is correct.
> > 
> > -Halton.
> > 
> 


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if there's any other issues with this case, please send an email within
24 hours, or I'll close it as approved after that. 

Thanks 

--IreneOn Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:45 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> if there's no more issues with this case, I'll close it as approve in 24
> hours. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> --Irene
> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 18:28 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> > Hi, all 
> > 
> > I am setting the status of this case to be "waiting fast-track
> > 07/29/2008" 
> > 
> > The new timeout is 07/29/2008
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > --irene
> > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 11:16 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 07:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > > > Halton Huo wrote:
> > > > > Alan,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here comes update for your question #2.
> > > > > Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> > > > > client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> > > > > Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> > > > > do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> > > > > details.
> > > > 
> > > > So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
> > > > machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
> > > > able to run if the user has wfica installed?
> > > Yes, it is correct.
> > > 
> > > -Halton.
> > > 
> > 
> 


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close approved. 

--Irene
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:34 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> if there's any other issues with this case, please send an email within
> 24 hours, or I'll close it as approved after that. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> --IreneOn Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:45 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> > if there's no more issues with this case, I'll close it as approve in 24
> > hours. 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > --Irene
> > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 18:28 +0800, Irene Huang wrote:
> > > Hi, all 
> > > 
> > > I am setting the status of this case to be "waiting fast-track
> > > 07/29/2008" 
> > > 
> > > The new timeout is 07/29/2008
> > > 
> > > Thanks 
> > > 
> > > --irene
> > > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 11:16 +0800, Halton Huo wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 07:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > > > > Halton Huo wrote:
> > > > > > Alan,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here comes update for your question #2.
> > > > > > Sun does not implement any Citrix client, www.citrix.com provides the 
> > > > > > client, its name is wfica. It is same client that tsclient called. Craig
> > > > > > Bender is using tsclient as wfica's GUI tool. So I do not think we need
> > > > > > do any special for Citrix part. Please check the attached email for
> > > > > > details.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So its not going to have its configure script check for wfica on the build
> > > > > machine, but will find it at runtime, so the support will be compiled in and
> > > > > able to run if the user has wfica installed?
> > > > Yes, it is correct.
> > > > 
> > > > -Halton.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


