From sh162551@sac.sfbay.sun.com Tue Jul 15 02:20:35 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6F9KZWc006383 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6F9KKq7010336; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:20:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4100601JA6X500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K41003IDJA5TZ40@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (new-sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.175.65]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6F9KSGe020550; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6F9KQB3006368; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sh162551@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m6F9KQTb006364; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Subject: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] To: lsarc-ext@sun.com Cc: jim.li@sun.com Message-id: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 3378 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: dialog for OpenSolaris 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Jim Li 1.3 Date of This Document: 15 July, 2008 4. Technical Description 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Dialog 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Jim Li 1.3. Date of This Document: 07/10/08 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: N/A 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: Solaris PAC 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: LSARC 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: rebert.odea@Sun.Com 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: OPG / OpenSource 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: leo.binchy@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: jim.li@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: dan.robert@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: This application provides a method of displaying serveral different types of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a developer of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier manner. 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): None. 4.3. In Scope: None. 4.4. Out of Scope: None. 4.5. Interfaces: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Exported Stability Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------ SUNWdialog Uncommitted package name /usr/bin/dialog Volatile CLI /usr/share/man/man1/dialog .1 Volatile man page /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/* Volatile example scripts ------------------------------------------------------------------ Imported Stability ARC case Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------ /lib/libcurses.so.1 public /lib/libm.so.2 public /lib/libc.so.1 pubilc 4.6. Doc Impact: Community provided man pages will be installed. 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: None. 4.8. HA Impact: None. 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: The JDS team and G11N are working together to evaluate and provide L18N/L10N support. 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: Add new packages, SUNWdialog, approximately 387,4kb 4.11. Security Impact: None. 4.12. Dependencies: None. 5. Reference Documents: Dialog community http://invisible-island.net/dialog/ 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: Desktop 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Irene.Huang@sun.com Sun Jul 20 23:01:39 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6L61dq3003002 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6L61d9s018054 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4C0090RE2PF200@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4C0096BE1YF100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-01.sun.com (fe-apac-01.sun.com [192.18.19.172] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6L61dEp003055 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4C00101DTL1I00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:58:33 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.138] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4C00CX7DXKGX10@mail-apac.sun.com>; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:58:33 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:01:56 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Jim.Li@sun.com Message-id: <1216620116.1035.39.camel@goalie> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 3869 Hi, all If there's any issues with this case, please send an email before timeout, or I'll close this case as approved. Thanks --Irene On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 02:20 -0700, Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI > This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > dialog for OpenSolaris > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Jim Li > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 15 July, 2008 > 4. Technical Description > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > > Dialog > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > > Jim Li > > 1.3. Date of This Document: > > 07/10/08 > > 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: > > N/A > > 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): > 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: > > Solaris PAC > > 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: > > LSARC > > 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: > > rebert.odea@Sun.Com > > 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: > > OPG / OpenSource > > 1.5. Email Aliases: > 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: > > leo.binchy@sun.com > > 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: > > jim.li@sun.com > > 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: > > dan.robert@sun.com > > 1.5.4. Interest List: > > desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > 4. Technical Description: > 4.1. Details: > > This application provides a method of displaying serveral different > types of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a developer > of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier manner. > > 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): > > None. > > 4.3. In Scope: > > None. > > 4.4. Out of Scope: > > None. > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Exported Stability Comments > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > SUNWdialog Uncommitted package name > /usr/bin/dialog Volatile CLI > /usr/share/man/man1/dialog .1 Volatile man page > /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/* > Volatile example scripts > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Imported Stability ARC case Comments > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > /lib/libcurses.so.1 public > /lib/libm.so.2 public > /lib/libc.so.1 pubilc > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > > Community provided man pages will be installed. > > 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: > > None. > > 4.8. HA Impact: > > None. > > 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: > > The JDS team and G11N are working together to evaluate and > provide L18N/L10N support. > > 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: > > Add new packages, SUNWdialog, approximately 387,4kb > > 4.11. Security Impact: > > None. > > 4.12. Dependencies: > > None. > > 5. Reference Documents: > > Dialog community > http://invisible-island.net/dialog/ > > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > Desktop > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From Brian.Cameron@sun.com Tue Jul 22 06:46:02 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6MDk2rH000570 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6MDk1mZ013342 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4E00J0HU8PML00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:46:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4E005HHU8O8SD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6MDjxb0000977 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K4E00001TXIHJ00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Brian.Cameron@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.156.226.192] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4E00B1NU89FH70@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:45:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:45:51 -0500 From: Brian Cameron Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Brian.Cameron@sun.com To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Jim.Li@sun.com Message-id: <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080701) Status: RO Content-Length: 4621 Reading these materials, it wasn't initially clear to me how this project is different than zenity (which allows you to display GTK+ dialogs from shell scripts). After checking the dialog website, I found that it is used for displaying curses (or text-based) widgets. So that is how it is different. It would be nice if the case materials could be updated to make this more clear. Also, I am curious what projects we plan to integrate might depend on or use this interface. Are we providing this so that Solaris users can simply use the dialog interfaces if they want, or are there particular programs we plan on integrating which use these interfaces? If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. Brian Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI > This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > dialog for OpenSolaris > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Jim Li > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 15 July, 2008 > 4. Technical Description > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > > Dialog > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > > Jim Li > > 1.3. Date of This Document: > > 07/10/08 > > 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: > > N/A > > 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): > 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: > > Solaris PAC > > 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: > > LSARC > > 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: > > rebert.odea@Sun.Com > > 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: > > OPG / OpenSource > > 1.5. Email Aliases: > 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: > > leo.binchy@sun.com > > 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: > > jim.li@sun.com > > 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: > > dan.robert@sun.com > > 1.5.4. Interest List: > > desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > 4. Technical Description: > 4.1. Details: > > This application provides a method of displaying serveral different > types of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a developer > of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier manner. > > 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): > > None. > > 4.3. In Scope: > > None. > > 4.4. Out of Scope: > > None. > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Exported Stability Comments > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > SUNWdialog Uncommitted package name > /usr/bin/dialog Volatile CLI > /usr/share/man/man1/dialog .1 Volatile man page > /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/* > Volatile example scripts > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Imported Stability ARC case Comments > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > /lib/libcurses.so.1 public > /lib/libm.so.2 public > /lib/libc.so.1 pubilc > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > > Community provided man pages will be installed. > > 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: > > None. > > 4.8. HA Impact: > > None. > > 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: > > The JDS team and G11N are working together to evaluate and > provide L18N/L10N support. > > 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: > > Add new packages, SUNWdialog, approximately 387,4kb > > 4.11. Security Impact: > > None. > > 4.12. Dependencies: > > None. > > 5. Reference Documents: > > Dialog community > http://invisible-island.net/dialog/ > > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > Desktop > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From Irene.Huang@sun.com Tue Jul 22 21:10:31 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6N4AUlx004395 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6N4ANan018960 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:10:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4F00403Y9H7900@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4F00DZJY9FLJ20@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6N4Awe3014174 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:10:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4F00I01Y39QD00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:09:55 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.146.215] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4F00MQEY8I9MGZ@mail-apac.sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:09:55 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:10:24 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Brian Cameron Cc: Shi-Ying Irene Huang , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Jim.Li@sun.com Message-id: <4886AF30.5090703@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Status: RO Content-Length: 4920 Hi, All I am extending the timeout to be this Friday. Jim would you please answer the questions from Brian? Thanks --Irene Brian Cameron wrote: > > Reading these materials, it wasn't initially clear to me how this > project is different than zenity (which allows you to display GTK+ > dialogs from shell scripts). After checking the dialog website, I > found that it is used for displaying curses (or text-based) widgets. > So that is how it is different. It would be nice if the case materials > could be updated to make this more clear. > > Also, I am curious what projects we plan to integrate might depend on > or use this interface. Are we providing this so that Solaris users > can simply use the dialog interfaces if they want, or are there > particular programs we plan on integrating which use these interfaces? > > If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, > then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It > doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs > via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. > > Brian > > > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: >> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI >> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems >> 1. Introduction >> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >> dialog for OpenSolaris >> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >> Author: Jim Li >> 1.3 Date of This Document: >> 15 July, 2008 >> 4. Technical Description >> 1. Introduction >> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >> >> Dialog >> >> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >> >> Jim Li >> >> 1.3. Date of This Document: >> >> 07/10/08 >> 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: >> >> N/A >> >> 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): >> 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: >> >> Solaris PAC >> >> 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: >> >> LSARC >> >> 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: >> >> rebert.odea@Sun.Com >> >> 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: >> >> OPG / OpenSource >> >> 1.5. Email Aliases: >> 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: >> >> leo.binchy@sun.com >> >> 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: >> >> jim.li@sun.com >> >> 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: >> >> dan.robert@sun.com >> >> 1.5.4. Interest List: >> >> desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org >> >> >> 4. Technical Description: >> 4.1. Details: >> >> This application provides a method of displaying serveral >> different >> types of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a >> developer >> of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier >> manner. >> >> 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): >> >> None. >> 4.3. In Scope: >> >> None. >> >> 4.4. Out of Scope: >> >> None. >> 4.5. Interfaces: >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Exported Stability Comments >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> SUNWdialog Uncommitted package name >> /usr/bin/dialog Volatile CLI >> /usr/share/man/man1/dialog .1 Volatile man page >> /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/* >> Volatile example >> scripts >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Imported Stability ARC case Comments >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> /lib/libcurses.so.1 public >> /lib/libm.so.2 public >> /lib/libc.so.1 pubilc >> >> 4.6. Doc Impact: >> >> Community provided man pages will be installed. >> 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.8. HA Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: >> >> The JDS team and G11N are working together to evaluate and >> provide L18N/L10N support. >> 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: >> >> Add new packages, SUNWdialog, approximately 387,4kb >> 4.11. Security Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.12. Dependencies: >> >> None. >> >> 5. Reference Documents: >> >> Dialog community >> http://invisible-island.net/dialog/ >> >> >> >> >> 6. Resources and Schedule >> 6.4. Steering Committee requested information >> 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: >> Desktop >> 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack >> 6.6. ARC Exposure: open >> > From Jim.Li@Sun.COM Wed Jul 23 02:14:33 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6N9EWP4013089 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6N9EJun006335 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:14:31 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4G0090FCC54F00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4G0063DCC4FS60@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6N9EwRE009740 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:14:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4G00E01C5M8A00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Jim.Li@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:12:02 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.192] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4G00BY6C7RRGGQ@mail-apac.sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:11:57 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:13:42 +0800 From: Jim Li Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> Sender: Jim.Li@Sun.COM To: Brian Cameron Cc: Shi-Ying Irene Huang , lsarc-ext@Sun.COM, Jim.Li@Sun.COM Message-id: <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080225) Status: RO Content-Length: 5561 Brian, > Reading these materials, it wasn't initially clear to me how this > project is different than zenity (which allows you to display GTK+ > dialogs from shell scripts). After checking the dialog website, I > found that it is used for displaying curses (or text-based) widgets. > So that is how it is different. It would be nice if the case materials > could be updated to make this more clear. This application provides a set of curses widgets which can be used to create nice user interfaces to shell scripts. It is non- graphical (it uses curses) so it can be run in the console or an xterm. This allows a developer of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier manner. How about this? > Also, I am curious what projects we plan to integrate might depend on > or use this interface. Are we providing this so that Solaris users > can simply use the dialog interfaces if they want, or are there > particular programs we plan on integrating which use these interfaces? > Yes, Just provides Solaris users another friendly dialog interface whatever they want to use it in console or shell script. For example, user can enter the following comand line to go through the calendar in console: $> dialog --calendar "My Calendar" -1 -1 Currently we don't have any programs which directly use these interfaces. > If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, > then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It > doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs > via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. > As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. Thanks Jim > Brian > > > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: >> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI >> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems >> 1. Introduction >> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >> dialog for OpenSolaris >> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >> Author: Jim Li >> 1.3 Date of This Document: >> 15 July, 2008 >> 4. Technical Description >> 1. Introduction >> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >> >> Dialog >> >> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >> >> Jim Li >> >> 1.3. Date of This Document: >> >> 07/10/08 >> 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: >> >> N/A >> >> 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): >> 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: >> >> Solaris PAC >> >> 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: >> >> LSARC >> >> 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: >> >> rebert.odea@Sun.Com >> >> 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: >> >> OPG / OpenSource >> >> 1.5. Email Aliases: >> 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: >> >> leo.binchy@sun.com >> >> 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: >> >> jim.li@sun.com >> >> 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: >> >> dan.robert@sun.com >> >> 1.5.4. Interest List: >> >> desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org >> >> >> 4. Technical Description: >> 4.1. Details: >> >> This application provides a method of displaying serveral >> different >> types of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a >> developer >> of a script to interact with the user in a much friendlier >> manner. >> >> 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): >> >> None. >> 4.3. In Scope: >> >> None. >> >> 4.4. Out of Scope: >> >> None. >> 4.5. Interfaces: >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Exported Stability Comments >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> SUNWdialog Uncommitted package name >> /usr/bin/dialog Volatile CLI >> /usr/share/man/man1/dialog .1 Volatile man page >> /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/* >> Volatile example >> scripts >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Imported Stability ARC case Comments >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> /lib/libcurses.so.1 public >> /lib/libm.so.2 public >> /lib/libc.so.1 pubilc >> >> 4.6. Doc Impact: >> >> Community provided man pages will be installed. >> 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.8. HA Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: >> >> The JDS team and G11N are working together to evaluate and >> provide L18N/L10N support. >> 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: >> >> Add new packages, SUNWdialog, approximately 387,4kb >> 4.11. Security Impact: >> >> None. >> 4.12. Dependencies: >> >> None. >> >> 5. Reference Documents: >> >> Dialog community >> http://invisible-island.net/dialog/ >> >> >> >> >> 6. Resources and Schedule >> 6.4. Steering Committee requested information >> 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: >> Desktop >> 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack >> 6.6. ARC Exposure: open >> > From Brian.Cameron@Sun.COM Thu Jul 24 06:02:08 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6OD28dA004428 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6OD25rD021961 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4I00F0VHJJHW00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4I002LJHJID170@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6OD26RM024921 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:02:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K4I00501H8LIK00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Brian.Cameron@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.156.226.192] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4I001V7HJG1U30@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:02:11 -0500 From: Brian Cameron Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> Sender: Brian.Cameron@Sun.COM To: Jim Li Cc: lsarc-ext@Sun.COM, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080701) Status: RO Content-Length: 2243 Jim: >> Reading these materials, it wasn't initially clear to me how this >> project is different than zenity (which allows you to display GTK+ >> dialogs from shell scripts). After checking the dialog website, I >> found that it is used for displaying curses (or text-based) widgets. >> So that is how it is different. It would be nice if the case materials >> could be updated to make this more clear. > This application provides a set of curses widgets which can be > used to create nice user interfaces to shell scripts. It is non- > graphical (it uses curses) so it can be run in the console or an > xterm. This allows a developer of a script to interact with the > user in a much friendlier manner. > > How about this? This seems like a better description to me. >> Also, I am curious what projects we plan to integrate might depend on >> or use this interface. Are we providing this so that Solaris users >> can simply use the dialog interfaces if they want, or are there >> particular programs we plan on integrating which use these interfaces? >> > Yes, Just provides Solaris users another friendly dialog interface > whatever they want to use it in console or shell script. For example, > user can enter the following comand line to go through the calendar in > console: > $> dialog --calendar "My Calendar" -1 -1 > Currently we don't have any programs which directly use these interfaces. Right, though it doesn't seem like there is strong business justification for adding these interfaces. However, that's no reason we can't get ARC approval to integrate it when we do have reasonable business justification. >> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, >> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It >> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs >> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. >> > As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for > OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. Brian From Jim.Li@Sun.COM Thu Jul 24 23:45:51 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6P6jo6t009808 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6P6jmkj003059 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:45:49 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4J00E0PUSCMS00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4J008OKUSA80C0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6P6kui9026413 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:46:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4J00101UKFYA00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Jim.Li@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.251] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4J009V0UNZ8ARE@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:01:22 +0800 From: Jim Li Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> Sender: Jim.Li@Sun.COM To: Brian Cameron Cc: lsarc-ext@Sun.COM, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, zh, de X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041102 Status: RO Content-Length: 751 Brian: >>> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, >>> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It >>> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs >>> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. >>> >> As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for >> OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. > > > This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see > the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that > we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. > Could it be ok if I change it to Uncommited? I'll check if those interface change a lot recently in community. Thanks Jim From Brian.Cameron@sun.com Fri Jul 25 09:42:45 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PGgiRV024914 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6PGgbJX013508 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:42:43 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4K00A13MF69B00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4K00A72MF5LID0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6PGgfg9028015 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:42:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K4K00701L67M100@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Brian.Cameron@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:42:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.156.226.192] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4K009NEMF3RC00@mail-amer.sun.com>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:42:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:42:47 -0500 From: Brian Cameron Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> Sender: Brian.Cameron@sun.com To: Jim Li Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <488A0287.6010503@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080701) Status: RO Content-Length: 932 Jim: >>>> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, >>>> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It >>>> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs >>>> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. >>>> >>> As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for >>> OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. >> >> This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see >> the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that >> we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. >> > Could it be ok if I change it to Uncommited? I'll check if those > interface change a lot recently in community. If the interfaces are being maintained in a stable fashion upstream, then Uncommitted would make more sense, I think. I'd check with the external community and maintainer. Brian From Jim.Li@sun.com Mon Jul 28 03:27:04 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6SAR3uT011455 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6SAR3i9057863 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4P00H0QP12W000@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:27:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4P00CUJP10HX40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6SASCBW022906 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4P00K01OX7VS00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Jim.Li@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:26:26 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.192] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4P00M8RP019MVD@mail-apac.sun.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:26:26 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:26:22 +0800 From: Jim Li Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <488A0287.6010503@sun.com> Sender: Jim.Li@sun.com To: Brian Cameron Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <488D9ECE.2080901@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> <488A0287.6010503@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080225) Status: RO Content-Length: 1086 Brian: >>>>> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, >>>>> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It >>>>> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs >>>>> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. >>>>> >>>> As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for >>>> OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. >>> >>> This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see >>> the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that >>> we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. >>> >> Could it be ok if I change it to Uncommited? I'll check if those >> interface change a lot recently in community. > > If the interfaces are being maintained in a stable fashion upstream, > then Uncommitted would make more sense, I think. I'd check with the > external community and maintainer. > From result of checking source code and feedback from community maintainer, I think these interface should be Uncommited. Thanks Jim From Irene.Huang@sun.com Mon Jul 28 04:18:08 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6SBHrdD012539 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6SBHhaC003298 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:17:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4P00L03RDRLB00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4P00CH9RDPHY70@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6SBJ1IE024893 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4P00L01RBJ6600@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:17:15 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.138] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4P00M0ORCQLRVC@mail-apac.sun.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:17:15 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:18:49 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <488D9ECE.2080901@sun.com> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Jim Li Cc: Brian Cameron , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <1217243929.4827.3.camel@goalie> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> <488A0287.6010503@sun.com> <488D9ECE.2080901@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1432 Hi, all I've changed the interface definition in http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/446/proposal-v2.txt There's no more unresolved issues for this case, I'd like to close it in 24 hours if there's no more questions. --Irene On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:26 +0800, Jim Li wrote: > Brian: > >>>>> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, > >>>>> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It > >>>>> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs > >>>>> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. > >>>>> > >>>> As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for > >>>> OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. > >>> > >>> This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see > >>> the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that > >>> we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. > >>> > >> Could it be ok if I change it to Uncommited? I'll check if those > >> interface change a lot recently in community. > > > > If the interfaces are being maintained in a stable fashion upstream, > > then Uncommitted would make more sense, I think. I'd check with the > > external community and maintainer. > > > From result of checking source code and feedback from community > maintainer, I think these interface should be Uncommited. > > Thanks > Jim > > From Irene.Huang@sun.com Wed Jul 30 00:49:39 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6U7ndRk028339 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6U7naVH024255 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4T00A1572PQT00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4T005TV72N5M80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6U7nYsK015446 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:49:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4T00B016XKE700@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT lsarc-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:49:34 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.138] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4T0097372L8GUK@mail-apac.sun.com>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:49:34 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:50:34 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: dialog for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/446 FastTrack timeout 07/22/2008] In-reply-to: <1217243929.4827.3.camel@goalie> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Jim Li Cc: Brian Cameron , lsarc-ext@sun.com, Shi-Ying Irene Huang Message-id: <1217404234.29989.8.camel@goalie> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807150920.m6F9KQTb006364@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4885E48F.9080001@sun.com> <4886F646.5060709@sun.com> <48887D53.1080508@sun.com> <48897A42.8060405@sun.com> <488A0287.6010503@sun.com> <488D9ECE.2080901@sun.com> <1217243929.4827.3.camel@goalie> Status: RO Content-Length: 1591 closed approved. --Irene On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 19:18 +0800, Irene Huang wrote: > Hi, all > > I've changed the interface definition in > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/446/proposal-v2.txt > > There's no more unresolved issues for this case, I'd like to close it in > 24 hours if there's no more questions. > > --Irene > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:26 +0800, Jim Li wrote: > > Brian: > > >>>>> If these interfaces are intended for Solaris users to make use of, > > >>>>> then should the interfaces be Uncommitted rather than Volatile? It > > >>>>> doesn't seem much good to provide interfaces for providing dialogs > > >>>>> via shell scripts if the interfaces might change or break. > > >>>>> > > >>>> As matter of fact, dialog is just a executable utility which is for > > >>>> OpenSolaris. That's the reason why I defined it as Volatile. > > >>> > > >>> This doesn't seem like a good argument to me. I still don't see > > >>> the value in adding interfaces that users are expected to use, that > > >>> we also tell them we may change in an ad-hoc fashion. > > >>> > > >> Could it be ok if I change it to Uncommited? I'll check if those > > >> interface change a lot recently in community. > > > > > > If the interfaces are being maintained in a stable fashion upstream, > > > then Uncommitted would make more sense, I think. I'd check with the > > > external community and maintainer. > > > > > From result of checking source code and feedback from community > > maintainer, I think these interface should be Uncommited. > > > > Thanks > > Jim > > > > >