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This is a system message. --END+PSEUDO-- From sh162551@sac.sfbay.sun.com Thu Jul 17 22:17:04 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5H367006720 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5H3t2039441; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:17:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600M07S0D3500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4600K7WS0DWF10@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (new-sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.175.65]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5Gxkx038656; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5Gv4P006689; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sh162551@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m6I5GvWS006685; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:16:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Subject: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] To: lsarc-ext@sun.com Cc: alfred.peng@sun.com Message-id: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Content-Length: 6693 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000001 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Songbird for OpenSolaris 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Alfred Peng 1.3 Date of This Document: 17 July, 2008 4. Technical Description 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Songbird: The desktop media player mashed-up with the Web. 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Alfred Peng 1.3. Date of This Document: 07/11/08 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: 02/08/2006 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: Solaris PAC 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: LSARC 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: robert.odea@sun.com 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: New Solaris Group, Desktop 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: leo.binchy@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: alfred.peng@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: glynn.foster@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Songbird is a complete desktop media player or "jukebox" with a uniquely open approach to Internet digital media network services. It runs on Mozilla's XULRunner platform and utilizes GStreamer media framework for media playback. Songbird provides the following features: * Ability to play multiple audio formats, such as MP3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC and Windows Media Audio. * Multi-Language Support. Songbird comes in 39 languages. * Integrated Web Search. Search the web from the context of your collection or tell Songbird to search on the currently playing track. * A skinnable interface, via feathers. * Drag-and-drop songs from the Library or another playlist to create your own custom mixes. * Play, Pause, Previous, Next, Volume, Mute, Seek, Three Repeat Modes, and Shuffle. * Criteria-based playlists that are always up-to-date with your current collection. * Get mixes from the Internet and stay up-to-date with the latest updates, downloads, and casts. * Filter your collection by Genre, Artist, Album, and Song or Search-As-You-Type. * scan the user's computer for all audio files and add them to a local library. * Tell Songbird to watch a folder for new music and it will automatically add new tracks to your collection. * A configurable and collapsible graphical user interface similar to iTunes, and miniplayer mode. * Play web pages as playlists and view any web page as a playlist. * Edit meta-data tags and save back to file. * Songbird JS API. Create, populate and play a playlist and much more from your Web site. * Built-in RSS subscription and MP3 file download. * Build deeply integrated web stores into Songbird with Mozilla XUL. 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): None. 4.3. In Scope: See above. 4.4. Out of Scope: See above. 4.5. Interfaces: Exported Interface -------------------------------------------------------------------- Interface Name Classification Comment -------------------------------------------------------------------- SUNWsongbird Uncommitted Package name /usr/bin/songbird Volatile Songbird GUI $HOME/.songbird2 Project Private Profile /usr/lib/songbird Project Private Directory /usr/share/applications/songbird.desktop Volatile UI spec Imported Interface -------------------------------------------------------------------- Interface Classification ARC case Comment -------------------------------------------------------------------- GNOME Platform Committed LSARC/2008/207 GTK+ library Libraries GNOME 2.22 SQLite Uncommitted PSARC/2008/120 SQLite library NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries FreeType Volatile LSARC/2007/662 freetype library The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. 4.6. Doc Impact: New manpage, songbird.1. 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: None. 4.8. HA Impact: None. 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and provide I18N/L10N support. 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: Adds new package, SUNWsongbird 4.11. Security Impact: Songbird uses NSS as the crypto library. Songbird includes a feature that allows user to save passwords. The saved passwords are stored in an encrypted file in user's profile folder. The saved passwords can be protected by using a Master Password. Songbird does not allow a website to download onto, install onto, or execute code on a user's computer without the user's agreement. Community will provide security updates as soon as possible. e.12. Dependencies: The following versions of the imported interfaces are required: GNOME 2.22 Upwards SQLite 3.X Upwards NSS 3.12 Upwards NSPR 4.7 Upwards FreeType 5. Reference Documents: [1] Songbird homepage: http://www.songbirdnest.com [2] Related ARC cases: LSARC 2008/207: GNOME 2.22 PSARC 2008/120: SQLite WSARC/2007/548: NSPR/NSS/JSS Reclassification WSARC/2002/366: NSS WSARC/2002/217: NSPR LSARC/2007/662: FreeType move from /usr/sfw to /usr 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: Desktop 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Irene.Huang@sun.com Thu Jul 17 22:19:31 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5JVOD006787 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5JUEN024511 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600903S4ION00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K46008NZS4HIK00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I5Jv2Q005478 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4600201ROTRN00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:17:06 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.138] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K46009QFS0H8AT4@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:17:06 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:20:12 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Alfred.Peng@sun.com Message-id: <1216358412.3657.13.camel@goalie> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Length: 7431 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000002 Hi, All I am sponsoring this project, the time out is 07/24/2008. Manpage of Songbird is available at Internally http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/459/manapges/ Externally http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2008/459 --Irene On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:16 -0700, Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI > This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Songbird for OpenSolaris > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Alfred Peng > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 17 July, 2008 > 4. Technical Description > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > > Songbird: The desktop media player mashed-up with the Web. > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > > Alfred Peng > > 1.3. Date of This Document: > > 07/11/08 > > 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: > > 02/08/2006 > > 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): > > 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: > > Solaris PAC > > 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: > > LSARC > > 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: > > robert.odea@sun.com > > 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: > > New Solaris Group, Desktop > > 1.5. Email Aliases: > > 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: > > leo.binchy@sun.com > > 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: > > alfred.peng@sun.com > > 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: > > glynn.foster@sun.com > > 1.5.4. Interest List: > > desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org > > 4. Technical Description: > 4.1. Details: > Songbird is a complete desktop media player or "jukebox" with a > uniquely open approach to Internet digital media network services. > It runs on Mozilla's XULRunner platform and utilizes GStreamer media > framework for media playback. > > Songbird provides the following features: > > * Ability to play multiple audio formats, such as MP3, AAC, Ogg > Vorbis, FLAC and Windows Media Audio. > * Multi-Language Support. Songbird comes in 39 languages. > * Integrated Web Search. Search the web from the context of your > collection or tell Songbird to search on the currently playing track. > * A skinnable interface, via feathers. > * Drag-and-drop songs from the Library or another playlist to create > your own custom mixes. > * Play, Pause, Previous, Next, Volume, Mute, Seek, Three Repeat Modes, > and Shuffle. > * Criteria-based playlists that are always up-to-date with your > current collection. > * Get mixes from the Internet and stay up-to-date with the latest > updates, downloads, and casts. > * Filter your collection by Genre, Artist, Album, and Song or > Search-As-You-Type. > * scan the user's computer for all audio files and add them to a > local library. > * Tell Songbird to watch a folder for new music and it will > automatically add new tracks to your collection. > * A configurable and collapsible graphical user interface similar to > iTunes, and miniplayer mode. > * Play web pages as playlists and view any web page as a playlist. > * Edit meta-data tags and save back to file. > * Songbird JS API. Create, populate and play a playlist and much more > from your Web site. > * Built-in RSS subscription and MP3 file download. > * Build deeply integrated web stores into Songbird with Mozilla XUL. > > 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): > > None. > > 4.3. In Scope: > > See above. > > 4.4. Out of Scope: > > See above. > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > Exported Interface > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Interface Name Classification Comment > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SUNWsongbird Uncommitted Package name > /usr/bin/songbird Volatile Songbird GUI > $HOME/.songbird2 Project Private Profile > /usr/lib/songbird Project Private Directory > /usr/share/applications/songbird.desktop Volatile UI spec > > > Imported Interface > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Interface Classification ARC case Comment > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > GNOME Platform Committed LSARC/2008/207 GTK+ library > Libraries GNOME 2.22 > SQLite Uncommitted PSARC/2008/120 SQLite library > NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries > FreeType Volatile LSARC/2007/662 freetype library > > The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will > deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after > those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > > New manpage, songbird.1. > > 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: > > None. > > 4.8. HA Impact: > > None. > > 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: > > The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and > provide I18N/L10N support. > > 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: > > Adds new package, SUNWsongbird > > 4.11. Security Impact: > > Songbird uses NSS as the crypto library. > > Songbird includes a feature that allows user to save passwords. The > saved passwords are stored in an encrypted file in user's profile > folder. The saved passwords can be protected by using a Master > Password. > > Songbird does not allow a website to download onto, install onto, or > execute code on a user's computer without the user's agreement. > > Community will provide security updates as soon as possible. > > e.12. Dependencies: > > The following versions of the imported interfaces are required: > > GNOME 2.22 Upwards > SQLite 3.X Upwards > NSS 3.12 Upwards > NSPR 4.7 Upwards > FreeType > > 5. Reference Documents: > > [1] Songbird homepage: > http://www.songbirdnest.com > > [2] Related ARC cases: > LSARC 2008/207: GNOME 2.22 > PSARC 2008/120: SQLite > WSARC/2007/548: NSPR/NSS/JSS Reclassification > WSARC/2002/366: NSS > WSARC/2002/217: NSPR > LSARC/2007/662: FreeType move from /usr/sfw to /usr > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > Desktop > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From Irene.Huang@sun.com Thu Jul 17 22:20:39 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5KcnD006813 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5KZhK014907 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:20:37 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600901S6BTT00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K46008Q0S69IJ00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I5L2aS005612 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:21:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4600201ROTRN00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:18:11 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.138] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K46009KQS278F5X@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:18:08 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:21:14 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <1216358412.3657.13.camel@goalie> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Alfred.Peng@sun.com Message-id: <1216358474.3657.15.camel@goalie> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1216358412.3657.13.camel@goalie> Content-Length: 8000 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000003 online help for songbird is at http://songbirdnest.com/support/ --Irene On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:20 +0800, Irene Huang wrote: > Hi, All > > I am sponsoring this project, the time out is 07/24/2008. > > Manpage of Songbird is available at > Internally > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/459/manapges/ > > Externally > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2008/459 > > --Irene > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:16 -0700, Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI > > This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems > > 1. Introduction > > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > > Songbird for OpenSolaris > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > > Author: Alfred Peng > > 1.3 Date of This Document: > > 17 July, 2008 > > 4. Technical Description > > 1. Introduction > > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > > > > Songbird: The desktop media player mashed-up with the Web. > > > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > > > > Alfred Peng > > > > 1.3. Date of This Document: > > > > 07/11/08 > > > > 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: > > > > 02/08/2006 > > > > 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): > > > > 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: > > > > Solaris PAC > > > > 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: > > > > LSARC > > > > 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: > > > > robert.odea@sun.com > > > > 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: > > > > New Solaris Group, Desktop > > > > 1.5. Email Aliases: > > > > 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: > > > > leo.binchy@sun.com > > > > 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: > > > > alfred.peng@sun.com > > > > 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: > > > > glynn.foster@sun.com > > > > 1.5.4. Interest List: > > > > desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > 4. Technical Description: > > 4.1. Details: > > Songbird is a complete desktop media player or "jukebox" with a > > uniquely open approach to Internet digital media network services. > > It runs on Mozilla's XULRunner platform and utilizes GStreamer media > > framework for media playback. > > > > Songbird provides the following features: > > > > * Ability to play multiple audio formats, such as MP3, AAC, Ogg > > Vorbis, FLAC and Windows Media Audio. > > * Multi-Language Support. Songbird comes in 39 languages. > > * Integrated Web Search. Search the web from the context of your > > collection or tell Songbird to search on the currently playing track. > > * A skinnable interface, via feathers. > > * Drag-and-drop songs from the Library or another playlist to create > > your own custom mixes. > > * Play, Pause, Previous, Next, Volume, Mute, Seek, Three Repeat Modes, > > and Shuffle. > > * Criteria-based playlists that are always up-to-date with your > > current collection. > > * Get mixes from the Internet and stay up-to-date with the latest > > updates, downloads, and casts. > > * Filter your collection by Genre, Artist, Album, and Song or > > Search-As-You-Type. > > * scan the user's computer for all audio files and add them to a > > local library. > > * Tell Songbird to watch a folder for new music and it will > > automatically add new tracks to your collection. > > * A configurable and collapsible graphical user interface similar to > > iTunes, and miniplayer mode. > > * Play web pages as playlists and view any web page as a playlist. > > * Edit meta-data tags and save back to file. > > * Songbird JS API. Create, populate and play a playlist and much more > > from your Web site. > > * Built-in RSS subscription and MP3 file download. > > * Build deeply integrated web stores into Songbird with Mozilla XUL. > > > > 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): > > > > None. > > > > 4.3. In Scope: > > > > See above. > > > > 4.4. Out of Scope: > > > > See above. > > > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > > > Exported Interface > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Interface Name Classification Comment > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SUNWsongbird Uncommitted Package name > > /usr/bin/songbird Volatile Songbird GUI > > $HOME/.songbird2 Project Private Profile > > /usr/lib/songbird Project Private Directory > > /usr/share/applications/songbird.desktop Volatile UI spec > > > > > > Imported Interface > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Interface Classification ARC case Comment > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > GNOME Platform Committed LSARC/2008/207 GTK+ library > > Libraries GNOME 2.22 > > SQLite Uncommitted PSARC/2008/120 SQLite library > > NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries > > FreeType Volatile LSARC/2007/662 freetype library > > > > The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will > > deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after > > those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. > > > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > > > > New manpage, songbird.1. > > > > 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: > > > > None. > > > > 4.8. HA Impact: > > > > None. > > > > 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: > > > > The JDS team and the G11N are working together to evaluate and > > provide I18N/L10N support. > > > > 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: > > > > Adds new package, SUNWsongbird > > > > 4.11. Security Impact: > > > > Songbird uses NSS as the crypto library. > > > > Songbird includes a feature that allows user to save passwords. The > > saved passwords are stored in an encrypted file in user's profile > > folder. The saved passwords can be protected by using a Master > > Password. > > > > Songbird does not allow a website to download onto, install onto, or > > execute code on a user's computer without the user's agreement. > > > > Community will provide security updates as soon as possible. > > > > e.12. Dependencies: > > > > The following versions of the imported interfaces are required: > > > > GNOME 2.22 Upwards > > SQLite 3.X Upwards > > NSS 3.12 Upwards > > NSPR 4.7 Upwards > > FreeType > > > > 5. Reference Documents: > > > > [1] Songbird homepage: > > http://www.songbirdnest.com > > > > [2] Related ARC cases: > > LSARC 2008/207: GNOME 2.22 > > PSARC 2008/120: SQLite > > WSARC/2007/548: NSPR/NSS/JSS Reclassification > > WSARC/2002/366: NSS > > WSARC/2002/217: NSPR > > LSARC/2007/662: FreeType move from /usr/sfw to /usr > > > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > > Desktop > > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > > > From James.McPherson@sun.com Thu Jul 17 22:29:17 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5TH5f006904 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5TFbe042076 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K460010BSKSR100@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4600BC0SKRSS30@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I5UNTl014856 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4600E01SIJQS00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from James.McPherson@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:28:44 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([220.157.71.44]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4600MDYSJP9M8U@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:28:40 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:29:14 +1000 From: "James C. McPherson" Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: James.McPherson@sun.com To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Alfred.Peng@sun.com Reply-to: James.McPherson@sun.com Message-id: <48802A2A.60302@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Content-Length: 1966 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000004 Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: ... > 4. Technical Description: > 4.1. Details: > Songbird is a complete desktop media player or "jukebox" with a > uniquely open approach to Internet digital media network services. > It runs on Mozilla's XULRunner platform and utilizes GStreamer media > framework for media playback. ... > Imported Interface > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Interface Classification ARC case Comment > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > GNOME Platform Committed LSARC/2008/207 GTK+ library > Libraries GNOME 2.22 > SQLite Uncommitted PSARC/2008/120 SQLite library > NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries > FreeType Volatile LSARC/2007/662 freetype library > > The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will > deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after > those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. Hi Irene, I'm very pleased to see that Songbird is now on the radar for inclusion. I have some questions for you: Which version of Songbird will the project team integrate initially (and how often will it be updated?). There are always comments on Songbird fora about obtaining new media plugins. What will the project team do to make this process easy to follow? Will there be, for instance, an IPS package of plugins and config which a user can download and install in a painless fashion? I'm less than impressed that we have yet another case that plans to deliver its own copy of nss/nspr. James C. McPherson -- Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris Sun Microsystems http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog From Jyri.Virkki@sun.com Thu Jul 17 22:47:34 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I5lYwg007044 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I5lV9d008228; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600B01TF5WO00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:47:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K46008HJTF5IK10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:47:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (host-179-56-18-192.iplanet.com [192.18.56.179] (may be forged)) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I5lSGT020570; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:47:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (buye [192.18.65.224]) by dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/IPLANET,v1.2) with ESMTP id m6I5lRs21267; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m6I5lRLf027258; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jyri@localhost) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) id m6I5lRgC027257; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:27 -0700 From: Jyri Virkki Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: Shi-Ying Irene Huang Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, alfred.peng@sun.com Message-id: <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Content-Length: 728 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000005 Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > > Imported Interface > NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries ... > The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will > deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after > those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. That's at odds with the imported claim just above it. What exact version of NSS does Sonbird require? In snv_92 I see NSS 3.11.9 which is the latest the NSS team has published, so how much more recent does Songbird need? If newer than that just work with the NSS team to get it updated instead. -- Jyri J. Virkki - jyri.virkki@sun.com - Sun Microsystems From Alfred.Peng@sun.com Thu Jul 17 23:16:47 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I6GkDL007521 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I6Gcln018014 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:16:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600707URW2X00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4600BQ6URVSV50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I6HBL6009757 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:17:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4600601UMPY500@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Alfred.Peng@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:16:12 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([116.14.190.67]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K460036PUQYJPIU@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:16:11 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:16:43 +0800 From: Alfred Peng Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <48802A2A.60302@Sun.COM> Sender: Alfred.Peng@sun.com To: James.McPherson@sun.com Cc: Shi-Ying Irene Huang , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4880354B.3080406@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48802A2A.60302@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Content-Length: 2940 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000006 Hi James, Thanks for the comments. James C. McPherson wrote: > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > ... >> 4. Technical Description: >> 4.1. Details: >> Songbird is a complete desktop media player or "jukebox" with a >> uniquely open approach to Internet digital media network >> services. >> It runs on Mozilla's XULRunner platform and utilizes >> GStreamer media >> framework for media playback. > ... >> Imported Interface >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Interface Classification ARC case Comment >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> GNOME Platform Committed LSARC/2008/207 GTK+ >> library >> Libraries GNOME 2.22 >> SQLite Uncommitted PSARC/2008/120 SQLite >> library >> NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 >> NSS/NSPR libraries >> FreeType Volatile LSARC/2007/662 >> freetype library >> >> The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. >> We will >> deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after >> those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. > > Hi Irene, > I'm very pleased to see that Songbird is now on the radar > for inclusion. I have some questions for you: > > Which version of Songbird will the project team integrate > initially (and how often will it be updated?). Currently the latest community release is 0.6.1, a micro update to the 0.6 release(Jun. 13th) with several bug fixes from 0.6: http://www.songbirdnest.com/release-notes/0.6.1. From the Songbird Roadmap(http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Roadmap), there will be a minor updates every two months, until the official 1.0 release next year. > There are always comments on Songbird fora about obtaining > new media plugins. What will the project team do to make > this process easy to follow? Will there be, for instance, > an IPS package of plugins and config which a user can download > and install in a painless fashion? Songbird is integrated with GStreamer framework and all the GStreamer plugins apply to Songbird, for example, the mp3 gstreamer plugin from Fluendo. I think we, the desktop team and the IPS team, will work out a solution to easy the user experience to get the plugins by IPS with necessary agreements. And some plugins(with re-distribution issue) will be put into an encumbered repository. > I'm less than impressed that we have yet another case that > plans to deliver its own copy of nss/nspr. From the configure.in, the NSS version needs to be >= 3.12.0 Best Regards, -Alfred > > James C. McPherson > -- > Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris > Sun Microsystems > http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog From Alfred.Peng@sun.com Thu Jul 17 23:21:56 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I6LtdS007587 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I6LiNX007128 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:21:54 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600E01V0GK600@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K46008QOV0FI320@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I6MJYO010194 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:22:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4600901UT5OC00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Alfred.Peng@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:21:20 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([116.14.190.67]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4600MD1UZF9VDZ@mail-apac.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:21:20 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:21:47 +0800 From: Alfred Peng Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> Sender: Alfred.Peng@sun.com To: Jyri Virkki Cc: Shi-Ying Irene Huang , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4880367B.10103@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Content-Length: 1015 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000007 Jyri Virkki wrote: > Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote: > >> Imported Interface >> NSS/NSPR Committed WSARC/2007/548 NSS/NSPR libraries >> > ... > >> The versions of NSS/NSPR in Nevada are lower than required. We will >> deliver private ones for now, and remove the private ones after >> those libraries get upgraded in Nevada. >> > > That's at odds with the imported claim just above it. > > What exact version of NSS does Sonbird require? > Hi Jyri, Songbird needs NSS version >= 3.12.0, which is in the Mozilla tree: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.h#73. > In snv_92 I see NSS 3.11.9 which is the latest the NSS team has > published, so how much more recent does Songbird need? > > If newer than that just work with the NSS team to get it updated instead. It'll be great that the NSS team could update to a newer version. Then Songbird will build with the system one. Thanks, -Alfred From Jyri.Virkki@sun.com Thu Jul 17 23:33:56 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6I6XuO2007647 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6I6Xs0t011184; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4600F01VKIIP00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K460087IVKHI530@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (host-179-56-18-192.iplanet.com [192.18.56.179] (may be forged)) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6I6XrYZ001056; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:33:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (buye [192.18.65.224]) by dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/IPLANET,v1.2) with ESMTP id m6I6Xqs22747; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m6I6XqLl027284; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jyri@localhost) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) id m6I6XqFs027283; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:33:52 -0700 From: Jyri Virkki Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <4880367B.10103@sun.com> To: Alfred Peng Cc: lsarc-ext@sun.com, Nelson.Bolyard@sun.com Message-id: <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Content-Length: 840 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000008 Alfred Peng wrote: > > >What exact version of NSS does Sonbird require? > > Songbird needs NSS version >= 3.12.0, which is in the Mozilla tree: > http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.h#73. (cc'ing Nelson from NSS team for insight) Is 3.12 formally released yet? > >If newer than that just work with the NSS team to get it updated instead. > > It'll be great that the NSS team could update to a newer version. Then > Songbird will build with the system one. The latest I see NSS team has published is in /share/builds/components/security/SECURITY_JES5U2_20080131 which is 3.11.9 which is the same as in Nevada currently. If 3.12 is out already I imagine NSS team will publish it in the reasonably close future so you could just depend on it. -- Jyri J. Virkki - jyri.virkki@sun.com - Sun Microsystems From Nelson.Bolyard@Sun.COM Fri Jul 18 16:23:28 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6INNS2t005866 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6INNSEW013934 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K48002056B4H900@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K48001CW6B3M220@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6INNRlD027841 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K4800101692GA00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Nelson.Bolyard@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] ([67.161.50.46]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4800CIN6B3LZ40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:23 -0700 From: Nelson Bolyard Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> Sender: Nelson.Bolyard@Sun.COM To: Jyri Virkki Cc: Alfred Peng , lsarc-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_okvI5B31FdiIvAr3VlRJgA)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.9.0.2pre) Gecko/2008070902 NOT Firefox/2.0 SeaMonkey/2.0a1pre Content-Length: 12950 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000009 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_okvI5B31FdiIvAr3VlRJgA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Jyri Virkki wrote, On 2008-07-17 23:33: > Alfred Peng wrote: >>> What exact version of NSS does Sonbird require? >> >> Songbird needs NSS version >= 3.12.0, which is in the Mozilla tree: >> http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.h#73. What is Songbird? Thunderbird's little brother? > (cc'ing Nelson from NSS team for insight) > > Is 3.12 formally released yet? 3.12.0 was released for use in FF3 (more generally, Mozilla products) only. It did not pass, or even undergo, Sun's rigorous QA, and as such is not qualified for distribution in Solaris as part of /usr/lib/mps (where official Solaris NSS libs go). NSS 3.12.0 is now available for testing purposes (only) within Sun, as a "Technology Preview Release". See attached announcement. Sun products that use NSS and expect to release in 2009 can test with it now. They'll have to live with the present bugs. >>> If newer than that just work with the NSS team to get it updated instead. >> >> It'll be great that the NSS team could update to a newer version. Then >> Songbird will build with the system one. > > The latest I see NSS team has published is in > /share/builds/components/security/SECURITY_JES5U2_20080131 > which is 3.11.9 which is the same as in Nevada currently. Yes, that is the latest official Sun version of NSS. NSS 3.11.10 will come out this quarter. > If 3.12 is out already I imagine NSS team will publish it in the > reasonably close future so you could just depend on it. I expect to see a 3.12.x (x probably being 1 or 2) come out as the first official Sun release of NSS 3.12.x this calendar year. /Nelson --Boundary_(ID_okvI5B31FdiIvAr3VlRJgA) Content-type: message/rfc822; name="Attached Message" Return-path: Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.34.119]) by sfbay1-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0K2Z00428LM8AGB0@sfbay1-mail1.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2Z00E01LG0OS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (ORCPT jes-sc-announce@sun.com) ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phys-sfbay1-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.47.10]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0K2Z00F4NLM7TD10@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (ORCPT jes-sc-announce@sun.com); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by sfbay1-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0K2Z0041SLM7AGB0@sfbay1-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> (ORCPT jes-sc-announce@sun.com); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m5OLg3hA034893; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m5OLfsL3025339; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:41:56 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K2Z00C0VLLWWI00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K2Z000B6LLVQM50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m5OLftIC028670; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2Z00E01LG0OS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Christophe.Ravel@Sun.COM); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-usca17-186-162.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.186.162]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K2Z00FYULLJTD00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:41 -0700 From: Christophe Ravel Subject: UPDATE for Shared Components: Security 3.12 Technology Preview Sender: Christophe.Ravel@Sun.COM To: jes-sc-announce@sun.com, nss-interest@sun.com Message-id: <48616A15.7090100@sun.com> X-Envelope-from: Nelson.Bolyard@Sun.COM X-Envelope-to: lsarc-ext <@smarthost.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=------------ms050005050809010705040208; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) Original-recipient: rfc822;jes-sc-announce@sun.com --------------ms050005050809010705040208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, The following is a version of Security 3.12 Technology Preview: /share/builds/integration/security/SECURITY_3.12TP_20080620 IMPORTANT: This version of Security 3.12 is made available to Sun products as a Technology Preview. 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sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K49001ZXG342S30@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6JFrOCl007490 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:53:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4900G01FHX8G00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Alfred.Peng@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:49:54 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([116.14.190.67]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4900BWUFZ1RF8K@mail-apac.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:49:54 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:52:13 +0800 From: Alfred Peng Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> Sender: Alfred.Peng@sun.com To: Nelson Bolyard Cc: Jyri Virkki , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <48820DAD.5040005@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Content-Length: 2438 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000010 Nelson Bolyard wrote: > Jyri Virkki wrote, On 2008-07-17 23:33: > >> Alfred Peng wrote: >> >>>> What exact version of NSS does Sonbird require? >>>> >>> >>> Songbird needs NSS version >= 3.12.0, which is in the Mozilla tree: >>> http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.h#73. >>> > > What is Songbird? Thunderbird's little brother? > Hi Nelson, Songbird is a desktop media player to mash-up with the web. It's built on top of Mozilla platform, and developed by a band of experienced, dedicated software developers and designers called the Pioneers of the Inevitable, some of them are from Winamp and the Yahoo! Music Engine[1]. It has the similar GUI layout with ITunes and provides an alternative for "Media Player + ipod + music store" solution. >> (cc'ing Nelson from NSS team for insight) >> >> Is 3.12 formally released yet? >> > > 3.12.0 was released for use in FF3 (more generally, Mozilla products) only. > It did not pass, or even undergo, Sun's rigorous QA, and as such > is not qualified for distribution in Solaris as part of /usr/lib/mps > (where official Solaris NSS libs go). > Songbird makes use of the NSS 3.12.0 in Mozilla tree currently. When NSS 3.12.x is shipped with Solaris, Songbird will be linked with the system one. Best Regards, -Alfred [1] http://songbirdnest.com/about > NSS 3.12.0 is now available for testing purposes (only) within Sun, as a > "Technology Preview Release". See attached announcement. > Sun products that use NSS and expect to release in 2009 can test with it > now. They'll have to live with the present bugs. > > >>>> If newer than that just work with the NSS team to get it updated instead. >>>> >>> It'll be great that the NSS team could update to a newer version. Then >>> Songbird will build with the system one. >>> >> The latest I see NSS team has published is in >> /share/builds/components/security/SECURITY_JES5U2_20080131 >> which is 3.11.9 which is the same as in Nevada currently. >> > > Yes, that is the latest official Sun version of NSS. > NSS 3.11.10 will come out this quarter. > > >> If 3.12 is out already I imagine NSS team will publish it in the >> reasonably close future so you could just depend on it. >> > > I expect to see a 3.12.x (x probably being 1 or 2) come out as the first > official Sun release of NSS 3.12.x this calendar year. > > /Nelson > From danek.duvall@sun.com Sat Jul 19 09:04:31 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6JG4VAH022205 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6JG4S36016959 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:04:30 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4900101GNG7Y00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K49001FEGNG2800@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6JG4Qxr049947; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6JG4QI2000210; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m6JG4QJr000209; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:25 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <48820DAD.5040005@sun.com> To: Alfred Peng Cc: Nelson Bolyard , Jyri Virkki , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20080719160425.GI21020@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> <48820DAD.5040005@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Content-Length: 530 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000011 On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:52:13PM +0800, Alfred Peng wrote: > Songbird makes use of the NSS 3.12.0 in Mozilla tree currently. When NSS > 3.12.x is shipped with Solaris, Songbird will be linked with the system > one. Given the timeline for a Public 3.12 integration, would it be feasible for Songbird to depend on the Mozilla 3.0 project, and use its copy of NSS (and maybe others) directly in the meantime? That would allow for the projects to use the version they need and to share in any bugfixes that might arise. Danek From Alfred.Peng@sun.com Mon Jul 21 03:36:56 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6LAatpQ010289 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6LAas8T009650 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:36:55 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4C00L03QTHE400@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4C00JCIQTGHC30@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-02.sun.com (fe-apac-02.sun.com [192.18.19.173] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6LAbKi8017648 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4C00I01QQWQ800@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Alfred.Peng@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:36:33 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([116.15.113.131]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4C00KO7QSXCM20@mail-apac.sun.com>; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:36:33 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:36:53 +0800 From: Alfred Peng Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <20080719160425.GI21020@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Alfred.Peng@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: Nelson Bolyard , Jyri Virkki , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <488466C5.7080401@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> <48820DAD.5040005@sun.com> <20080719160425.GI21020@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Content-Length: 532 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000012 Danek Duvall wrote: > Given the timeline for a Public 3.12 integration, would it be feasible for > Songbird to depend on the Mozilla 3.0 project, and use its copy of NSS (and > maybe others) directly in the meantime? That would allow for the projects > to use the version they need and to share in any bugfixes that might arise. > Hi Danek, Thanks for the suggestion. This sounds reasonable to me. Songbird will make use of Firefox's copy of NSS/NSPR and migrate to the system one when it's available. Best Regards, -Alfred From Irene.Huang@sun.com Tue Jul 22 21:14:04 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6N4E3gS004555 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m6N4E0Gb019667 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:lsarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:14:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K4F00F03YFCN800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K4F005EZYFBV190@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:14:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6N4F9XR014469 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K4F00L01Y9HFU00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Irene.Huang@Sun.COM) for lsarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT lsarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:13:27 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.146.215] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4F00745YEDUHKR@mail-apac.sun.com>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:13:26 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:13:56 +0800 From: Irene Huang Subject: Re: Songbird for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/459 FastTrack timeout 07/24/2008] In-reply-to: <488466C5.7080401@sun.com> Sender: Irene.Huang@sun.com To: Alfred Peng Cc: Danek Duvall , Nelson Bolyard , Jyri Virkki , lsarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4886B004.4060102@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200807180516.m6I5GvWS006685@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20080718054727.GA27251@sun.com> <4880367B.10103@sun.com> <20080718063352.GA26794@sun.com> <488125EB.7020304@sun.com> <48820DAD.5040005@sun.com> <20080719160425.GI21020@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <488466C5.7080401@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Content-Length: 614 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000000013 Close approved. --Irene Alfred Peng wrote: > Danek Duvall wrote: >> Given the timeline for a Public 3.12 integration, would it be >> feasible for >> Songbird to depend on the Mozilla 3.0 project, and use its copy of >> NSS (and >> maybe others) directly in the meantime? That would allow for the >> projects >> to use the version they need and to share in any bugfixes that might >> arise. >> > Hi Danek, > > Thanks for the suggestion. This sounds reasonable to me. Songbird will > make use of Firefox's copy of NSS/NSPR and migrate to the system one > when it's available. > > Best Regards, > -Alfred