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Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 Irssi for OpenSolaris
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Henry Zhang
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	28 July, 2008
4. Technical Description
1. Introduction

  1.1. Project/Component Working Name:

       Irssi 0.8.12

  1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:

       Henry Zhang     (hua.zhang@sun.com)

  1.3. Date of This Document:

       18/07/08

  1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):

    1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:

           Solaris PAC

    1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:

           LSARC

    1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:

           Robert.Odea@Sun.Com

    1.4.4. The name of your business unit:

           JDS Desktop Engineering, OPG

  1.5. Email Aliases:
       1.5.1. Responsible Manager:     leo.binchy@Sun.COM
       1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:    hua.zhang@Sun.COM
       1.5.3. Marketing Manager:       dan.roberts@sun.com
       1.5.4. Interest List:           irssi@sun.com

2. Project Summary

  2.1. Project Description:
        
       Irssi is a terminal based IRC client for UNIX systems.


  2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
    
    1. INSTALL claim that there is some problem on Perl, Perl 5.004 doesn't work
       by default, we'll need to edit src/perl/irssi-core.pl and remove all 
       lines with "delete_package" in them. We have 5.8 on Solaris, so can ignore
       this issue.


3. Business Summary

  3.1. Problem Area:

       Irssi is a powerfull console-based irc client, making this tool ready to 
       provide an excellent communicating tool to those users who used to the 
       text mode IRC, and prefer this type of tool still. 


  3.2. Market/Requester:

       JDS Desktop group

  3.3. Business Justification:
       Irssi is a very good text-based irc client, can be used in any terminal.
       It can provide the intuitive and easy way for user to chat each other.
       It also supports SILC and ICB protocols via plugins. 
       It's customizable, user can write perl scripts to add the new feature.

       
  3.4. Competitive Analysis:

       There are lots of IRC client in Unix world, e.g. ircii, 
       There are also the GUI IRC client, for example Xchat, Pidgin.

  3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:

       It is expected that this project will be integrated into Nevada B100.

  3.6. How will you know when you are done?:

       When it is ported to Nevada and runs correctly.  

       The project will be complete when there are no stoppers, P1 or P2 bugs.

4. Technical Description:

  4.1. Details:
       
       Irssi is a text-only IRC client for Unix-ish platforms, it's such an 
       easy and comfortable client to use, Irssi can range from a functional, 
       no-frills client to a highly-customized and automated client. It features
       a text mode user interface, modularity, multi-server connectivity, 
       tab completion and a lot of automation.

       One of the many great features of Irssi is its Perl scripting support,
       you can write your script, and lots of well implemented scripts can be 
       found on irssi’s script archive. Non-standard features are implemented 
       with these perl scripts, rather than in the core, so most non-standard 
       functionality is added through the use of perl scripts. At irssi.org/scripts,
       there is a large database of these scripts available. To use them, download
       the perl scripts to your ~/.irssi/scripts directory, then you can run them.

       Irssi is a modular IRC client that currently has only text mode user
       interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other
       UIs could be created pretty easily. Also, Irssi isn't really even IRC
       specific anymore, there's already a working SILC (http://www.silcnet.org)
       module available. Support for other protocols like ICQ could be created
       some day too.

       In fact, there are some GUI IRC tool, e.g. Xchat, but someone still like
       to use this terminal-based IRC, because it can be configured manually to 
       meet the different requirements, you can run lots of command to configure
       your Irssi, you even can download or write some Perl scripts for some
       special purpose. 

       Features:
          - Optional automation
          - Multiserver friendy
          - Channel automation
          - Window content saving
          - Tab completing anything
          - Excellent logging
          - Excellent ignoring
          - Lastlog and scrollback handling

  4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):

       N/A

  4.3. In Scope:

       The default functions and feature in core

  4.4. Out of Scope:

       The new functions added by non-standard scripts

   4.5. Interfaces:
    
      Imported Interfaces
      Interface               Stability    Comments
      -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------

       libperl                  Evolving    PSARC/2001/145
       GNOME Committed Platform Libraries Committed LSARC/2007/520 GTK+ library
                                                        GNOME 2.20 

      Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
      -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------

       /usr/bin/irssi              Volatile          
       /etc/irssi.conf		   Volatile       Global configuration file
       $HOME/.irssi/config         Project Private Personal configuration file
       SUNWirssi                   Uncommitted    Package name

  4.6. Doc Impact:

       Man page exist already.

  4.7. Admin/Config Impact:

       There are no changes to the system administration and configuration. 

  4.8. HA Impact:

       N/A

  4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:

       Not to be needed

  4.10. Packaging & Delivery:

        The new packages are:

              -  SUNWirssi


  4.11. Security Impact:

        There is no additional security impact for Solaris.

  4.12. Dependencies:

        Glib >=2.0
        libperl
        
5. Reference Documents:

   Irssi main project page:   
        http://irssi.org

 
6. Resources and Schedule:

  6.1. Projected Availability:
       
       Expect to integrated into Nevada in build 100 in Q3 2008

  6.2. Cost of Effort:

       Development     1.0 Engineers - 1 Months
       Testing         0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
       RE              0.5 Engineers - 1 Week

  6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:

       N/A

  6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:

       6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:

              JDS / OpenSolaris
 
       6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:

              Standard

       6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:

              None

       6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:

              No

       6.4.6. Notes:

              N/A

       6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:

              Nevada B100 - Sep. 2008

       6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:

              Sep. 2008

       6.4.9. Update approval addition:

              New project, no Solaris PAC approval yet

  6.5. ARC review type:

       FastTrack

7. Prototype Availability:

  7.1. Prototype Availability:

       Sep. 2008   

  7.2. Prototype Cost:

       1 engineer
       1 QA
       1 RE


6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		Desktop
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


From Irene.Huang@sun.com Mon Jul 28 20:44:55 2008
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:45:49 +0800
From: Irene Huang <Irene.Huang@sun.com>
Subject: Re: Irssi for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/481 FastTrack timeout	08/05/2008]
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Hi, all 

Additional materials are available at 
Internally
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/481/materials/

Externally 
﻿http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2008/481

--Irene
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:40 -0700, Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI
> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
> 1. Introduction
>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 	 Irssi for OpenSolaris
>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 	 Author:  Henry Zhang
>     1.3  Date of This Document:
> 	28 July, 2008
> 4. Technical Description
> 1. Introduction
> 
>   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 
>        Irssi 0.8.12
> 
>   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 
>        Henry Zhang     (hua.zhang@sun.com)
> 
>   1.3. Date of This Document:
> 
>        18/07/08
> 
>   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
> 
>     1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
> 
>            Solaris PAC
> 
>     1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
> 
>            LSARC
> 
>     1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:
> 
>            Robert.Odea@Sun.Com
> 
>     1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
> 
>            JDS Desktop Engineering, OPG
> 
>   1.5. Email Aliases:
>        1.5.1. Responsible Manager:     leo.binchy@Sun.COM
>        1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:    hua.zhang@Sun.COM
>        1.5.3. Marketing Manager:       dan.roberts@sun.com
>        1.5.4. Interest List:           irssi@sun.com
> 
> 2. Project Summary
> 
>   2.1. Project Description:
>         
>        Irssi is a terminal based IRC client for UNIX systems.
> 
> 
>   2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
>     
>     1. INSTALL claim that there is some problem on Perl, Perl 5.004 doesn't work
>        by default, we'll need to edit src/perl/irssi-core.pl and remove all 
>        lines with "delete_package" in them. We have 5.8 on Solaris, so can ignore
>        this issue.
> 
> 
> 3. Business Summary
> 
>   3.1. Problem Area:
> 
>        Irssi is a powerfull console-based irc client, making this tool ready to 
>        provide an excellent communicating tool to those users who used to the 
>        text mode IRC, and prefer this type of tool still. 
> 
> 
>   3.2. Market/Requester:
> 
>        JDS Desktop group
> 
>   3.3. Business Justification:
>        Irssi is a very good text-based irc client, can be used in any terminal.
>        It can provide the intuitive and easy way for user to chat each other.
>        It also supports SILC and ICB protocols via plugins. 
>        It's customizable, user can write perl scripts to add the new feature.
> 
>        
>   3.4. Competitive Analysis:
> 
>        There are lots of IRC client in Unix world, e.g. ircii, 
>        There are also the GUI IRC client, for example Xchat, Pidgin.
> 
>   3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:
> 
>        It is expected that this project will be integrated into Nevada B100.
> 
>   3.6. How will you know when you are done?:
> 
>        When it is ported to Nevada and runs correctly.  
> 
>        The project will be complete when there are no stoppers, P1 or P2 bugs.
> 
> 4. Technical Description:
> 
>   4.1. Details:
>        
>        Irssi is a text-only IRC client for Unix-ish platforms, it's such an 
>        easy and comfortable client to use, Irssi can range from a functional, 
>        no-frills client to a highly-customized and automated client. It features
>        a text mode user interface, modularity, multi-server connectivity, 
>        tab completion and a lot of automation.
> 
>        One of the many great features of Irssi is its Perl scripting support,
>        you can write your script, and lots of well implemented scripts can be 
>        found on irssi’s script archive. Non-standard features are implemented 
>        with these perl scripts, rather than in the core, so most non-standard 
>        functionality is added through the use of perl scripts. At irssi.org/scripts,
>        there is a large database of these scripts available. To use them, download
>        the perl scripts to your ~/.irssi/scripts directory, then you can run them.
> 
>        Irssi is a modular IRC client that currently has only text mode user
>        interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other
>        UIs could be created pretty easily. Also, Irssi isn't really even IRC
>        specific anymore, there's already a working SILC (http://www.silcnet.org)
>        module available. Support for other protocols like ICQ could be created
>        some day too.
> 
>        In fact, there are some GUI IRC tool, e.g. Xchat, but someone still like
>        to use this terminal-based IRC, because it can be configured manually to 
>        meet the different requirements, you can run lots of command to configure
>        your Irssi, you even can download or write some Perl scripts for some
>        special purpose. 
> 
>        Features:
>           - Optional automation
>           - Multiserver friendy
>           - Channel automation
>           - Window content saving
>           - Tab completing anything
>           - Excellent logging
>           - Excellent ignoring
>           - Lastlog and scrollback handling
> 
>   4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   4.3. In Scope:
> 
>        The default functions and feature in core
> 
>   4.4. Out of Scope:
> 
>        The new functions added by non-standard scripts
> 
>    4.5. Interfaces:
>     
>       Imported Interfaces
>       Interface               Stability    Comments
>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> 
>        libperl                  Evolving    PSARC/2001/145
>        GNOME Committed Platform Libraries Committed LSARC/2007/520 GTK+ library
>                                                         GNOME 2.20 
> 
>       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
>       -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------
> 
>        /usr/bin/irssi              Volatile          
>        /etc/irssi.conf		   Volatile       Global configuration file
>        $HOME/.irssi/config         Project Private Personal configuration file
>        SUNWirssi                   Uncommitted    Package name
> 
>   4.6. Doc Impact:
> 
>        Man page exist already.
> 
>   4.7. Admin/Config Impact:
> 
>        There are no changes to the system administration and configuration. 
> 
>   4.8. HA Impact:
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:
> 
>        Not to be needed
> 
>   4.10. Packaging & Delivery:
> 
>         The new packages are:
> 
>               -  SUNWirssi
> 
> 
>   4.11. Security Impact:
> 
>         There is no additional security impact for Solaris.
> 
>   4.12. Dependencies:
> 
>         Glib >=2.0
>         libperl
>         
> 5. Reference Documents:
> 
>    Irssi main project page:   
>         http://irssi.org
> 
>  
> 6. Resources and Schedule:
> 
>   6.1. Projected Availability:
>        
>        Expect to integrated into Nevada in build 100 in Q3 2008
> 
>   6.2. Cost of Effort:
> 
>        Development     1.0 Engineers - 1 Months
>        Testing         0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
>        RE              0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
> 
>   6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:
> 
>        6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
> 
>               JDS / OpenSolaris
>  
>        6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:
> 
>               Standard
> 
>        6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:
> 
>               None
> 
>        6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:
> 
>               No
> 
>        6.4.6. Notes:
> 
>               N/A
> 
>        6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:
> 
>               Nevada B100 - Sep. 2008
> 
>        6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:
> 
>               Sep. 2008
> 
>        6.4.9. Update approval addition:
> 
>               New project, no Solaris PAC approval yet
> 
>   6.5. ARC review type:
> 
>        FastTrack
> 
> 7. Prototype Availability:
> 
>   7.1. Prototype Availability:
> 
>        Sep. 2008   
> 
>   7.2. Prototype Cost:
> 
>        1 engineer
>        1 QA
>        1 RE
> 
> 
> 6. Resources and Schedule
>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>    	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
> 		Desktop
>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
> 


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Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
>       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
>       -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------
> 
>        /usr/bin/irssi              Volatile          
>        /etc/irssi.conf		   Volatile       Global configuration file
>        $HOME/.irssi/config         Project Private Personal configuration file
>        SUNWirssi                   Uncommitted    Package name

Why is ~/.irssi/config Project Private yet /etc/irssi.conf Volatile ?

Don't they have the same format ?  Why am I not allowed to edit my 
personal config file ?  That would make sense if the tool itself 
provides the ability to modify all properties that could possibly be 
stored in the config file.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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Darren J Moffat 写道:
> Shi-Ying Irene Huang wrote:
>>       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
>>       -------------------------  -------------  
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>>        /usr/bin/irssi              Volatile                 
>> /etc/irssi.conf           Volatile       Global configuration file
>>        $HOME/.irssi/config         Project Private Personal 
>> configuration file
>>        SUNWirssi                   Uncommitted    Package name
> 
> Why is ~/.irssi/config Project Private yet /etc/irssi.conf Volatile ?
> 
> Don't they have the same format ?  Why am I not allowed to edit my 
> personal config file ?  That would make sense if the tool itself 
> provides the ability to modify all properties that could possibly be 
> stored in the config file.
$HOME/.irssi/config is changed by Irssi after you change some 
configuration by command, you should not to change it manually, it may 
distroy the database...
And /etc/irssi.conf is the global configuration file, the format may be 
changed, so list as Volatile..

> 

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Will irssi be linking with SSL from OpenSSL?
If so, does the irssi team have a contract for OpenSSL?

Darren


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Darren Reed 写道:
> Will irssi be linking with SSL from OpenSSL?
Yes.
> If so, does the irssi team have a contract for OpenSSL?
I think so, and I am contacting the Irssi team for the confirmation, 
will get back to you on this once I get reply...
> 
> Darren
> 

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Unfortunately, there is no contract for OpenSSL, but irssi team think it 
is not an issue, see below. So is it an issue? if so, how to solve it?

"As far as I know, there's no problem with that. Why would this need a
contract? Note that we do have an exception for openssl in the COPYING 
file. "

---------- COPYING ------
Specific permission is granted for the GPLed code in this distribution 
to be linked to OpenSSL without invoking GPL clause 2(b).

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

		    GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
		       Version 2, June 1991

  Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
  51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
  Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
  of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.

Thanks,
Henry

Henry Zhang 写道:
> 
> 
> Darren Reed 写道:
>> Will irssi be linking with SSL from OpenSSL?
> Yes.
>> If so, does the irssi team have a contract for OpenSSL?
> I think so, and I am contacting the Irssi team for the confirmation, 
> will get back to you on this once I get reply...
>>
>> Darren
>>

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Hi, Darren 

Desktop have a contract with OpenSSL at
http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/arc/PSARC/2003/500/contracts/contract-07
This one doesn't cover jds/gnome/applications where this project will go
to.

We are working on a new contract with the OpenSSL team. 

--Irene

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 11:50 +0800, Henry Zhang wrote:
> Unfortunately, there is no contract for OpenSSL, but irssi team think it 
> is not an issue, see below. So is it an issue? if so, how to solve it?
> 
> "As far as I know, there's no problem with that. Why would this need a
> contract? Note that we do have an exception for openssl in the COPYING 
> file. "
> 
> ---------- COPYING ------
> Specific permission is granted for the GPLed code in this distribution 
> to be linked to OpenSSL without invoking GPL clause 2(b).
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 		    GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
> 		       Version 2, June 1991
> 
>   Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
>   51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
>   Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
>   of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Henry
> 
> Henry Zhang 写道:
> > 
> > 
> > Darren Reed 写道:
> >> Will irssi be linking with SSL from OpenSSL?
> > Yes.
> >> If so, does the irssi team have a contract for OpenSSL?
> > I think so, and I am contacting the Irssi team for the confirmation, 
> > will get back to you on this once I get reply...
> >>
> >> Darren
> >>


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From: Darren J Moffat <Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: Irssi for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/481 FastTrack timeout	08/05/2008]
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Henry Zhang wrote:
> Unfortunately, there is no contract for OpenSSL, but irssi team think it 
> is not an issue, see below. So is it an issue? if so, how to solve it?
> 
> "As far as I know, there's no problem with that. Why would this need a
> contract? Note that we do have an exception for openssl in the COPYING 
> file. "

The ARC contract has nothing to do with licensing it is an ARC 
requirement because of the low stability of the OpenSSL API and ABI.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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From: Henry Zhang <Hua.Zhang@sun.com>
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Hi all,

Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
the contract is ongoing....

Thanks,
Henry

Irene Huang д:
> Hi, Darren 
> 
> Desktop have a contract with OpenSSL at
> http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/arc/PSARC/2003/500/contracts/contract-07
> This one doesn't cover jds/gnome/applications where this project will go
> to.
> 
> We are working on a new contract with the OpenSSL team. 
> 
> --Irene
> 
> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 11:50 +0800, Henry Zhang wrote:
>> Unfortunately, there is no contract for OpenSSL, but irssi team think it 
>> is not an issue, see below. So is it an issue? if so, how to solve it?
>>
>> "As far as I know, there's no problem with that. Why would this need a
>> contract? Note that we do have an exception for openssl in the COPYING 
>> file. "
>>
>> ---------- COPYING ------
>> Specific permission is granted for the GPLed code in this distribution 
>> to be linked to OpenSSL without invoking GPL clause 2(b).
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> 		    GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
>> 		       Version 2, June 1991
>>
>>   Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
>>   51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
>>   Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
>>   of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Henry
>>
>> Henry Zhang 写道:
>>>
>>> Darren Reed 写道:
>>>> Will irssi be linking with SSL from OpenSSL?
>>> Yes.
>>>> If so, does the irssi team have a contract for OpenSSL?
>>> I think so, and I am contacting the Irssi team for the confirmation, 
>>> will get back to you on this once I get reply...
>>>> Darren
>>>>
> 

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From: John Plocher <John.Plocher@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: Irssi for OpenSolaris [LSARC/2008/481 FastTrack	timeout	08/05/2008]
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Henry Zhang wrote:
> Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
> the contract is ongoing....


>   4.5. Interfaces:
>     
>       Imported Interfaces
>       Interface               Stability    Comments
>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> 
>        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing

The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".

(The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")

   -John


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On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 03:08:04PM -0700, John Plocher wrote:
> Henry Zhang wrote:
> > Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
> > the contract is ongoing....
> 
> 
> >   4.5. Interfaces:
> >     
> >       Imported Interfaces
> >       Interface               Stability    Comments
> >       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> > 
> >        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
> 
> The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
> based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".
> 
> (The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
> because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
> incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")

Basically a contract is needed.

From Irene.Huang@Sun.COM Tue Aug  5 20:01:06 2008
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Nicolas

JDS has a contract with OpenSSL before:
http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/arc/PSARC/2003/500/contracts/contract-07

And we a working a new one which covers jds/gnome/applications where
this project will go to. 

--Irene
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 17:24 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 03:08:04PM -0700, John Plocher wrote:
> > Henry Zhang wrote:
> > > Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
> > > the contract is ongoing....
> > 
> > 
> > >   4.5. Interfaces:
> > >     
> > >       Imported Interfaces
> > >       Interface               Stability    Comments
> > >       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> > > 
> > >        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
> > 
> > The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
> > based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".
> > 
> > (The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
> > because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
> > incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")
> 
> Basically a contract is needed.


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Hi John,

Updated..

Thanks,
Henry

John Plocher д:
> Henry Zhang wrote:
>> Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
>> the contract is ongoing....
> 
> 
>>   4.5. Interfaces:
>>     
>>       Imported Interfaces
>>       Interface               Stability    Comments
>>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
>>
>>        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
> 
> The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
> based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".
> 
> (The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
> because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
> incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")
> 
>    -John
> 

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Irene Huang wrote:
> Nicolas
> 
> JDS has a contract with OpenSSL before:
> http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/arc/PSARC/2003/500/contracts/contract-07

Consolidations don't have contacts projects do.

However given the huge number of contracts for OpenSSL this might 
actually be a useful optimisation of the process, but it isn't the 
current process so don't assume you can do that.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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Darren 

Do you mean that you we have to sign one contract for each of the
project even if the projects belongs to one manager, and the all the
projects consume the same interfaces? 

I don't think that makes sense. 

The function of contracts is to make sure that the consumers of a
specific interface know that when the changes of the interfaces may
affect them.  And I do think that one contract for one manager would do
that. 

What do you think?
--Irene

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 10:10 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
> > Nicolas
> > 
> > JDS has a contract with OpenSSL before:
> > http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/arc/PSARC/2003/500/contracts/contract-07
> 
> Consolidations don't have contacts projects do.
> 
> However given the huge number of contracts for OpenSSL this might 
> actually be a useful optimisation of the process, but it isn't the 
> current process so don't assume you can do that.
> 


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Contract signing does not block the ARC case. We're still working on the
contract. 

If there's any comments on the updated proposal, please send an email
within 24 hours. If not, I'll close this case then. 

Thanks 

--irene

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 11:20 +0800, Henry Zhang wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Updated..
> 
> Thanks,
> Henry
> 
> John Plocher д:
> > Henry Zhang wrote:
> >> Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
> >> the contract is ongoing....
> > 
> > 
> >>   4.5. Interfaces:
> >>     
> >>       Imported Interfaces
> >>       Interface               Stability    Comments
> >>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> >>
> >>        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
> > 
> > The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
> > based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".
> > 
> > (The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
> > because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
> > incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")
> > 
> >    -John
> > 
> plain text document attachment (one-pager-irssi.txt)
> Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.29 04/11/15 SMI
> 
> 1. Introduction
> 
>   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 
>        Irssi
> 
>   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 
>        Henry Zhang     (hua.zhang@sun.com)
> 
>   1.3. Date of This Document:
> 
>        18/07/08
> 
>   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
> 
>     1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
> 
>            Solaris PAC
> 
>     1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
> 
>            LSARC
> 
>     1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:
> 
>            Robert.Odea@Sun.Com
> 
>     1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
> 
>            JDS Desktop Engineering, OPG
> 
>   1.5. Email Aliases:
>        1.5.1. Responsible Manager:     leo.binchy@Sun.COM
>        1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:    hua.zhang@Sun.COM
>        1.5.3. Marketing Manager:       dan.roberts@sun.com
>        1.5.4. Interest List:           irssi@sun.com
> 
> 2. Project Summary
> 
>   2.1. Project Description:
>         
>        Irssi is a terminal based IRC client for UNIX systems.
> 
> 
>   2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
>     
>     1. INSTALL claim that there is some problem on Perl, Perl 5.004 doesn't work
>        by default, we'll need to edit src/perl/irssi-core.pl and remove all 
>        lines with "delete_package" in them. We have 5.8 on Solaris, so can ignore
>        this issue.
> 
> 
> 3. Business Summary
> 
>   3.1. Problem Area:
> 
>        Irssi is a powerfull console-based irc client, making this tool ready to 
>        provide an excellent communicating tool to those users who used to the 
>        text mode IRC, and prefer this type of tool still. 
> 
> 
>   3.2. Market/Requester:
> 
>        JDS Desktop group
> 
>   3.3. Business Justification:
>        Irssi is a very good text-based irc client, can be used in any terminal.
>        It can provide the intuitive and easy way for user to chat each other.
>        It also supports SILC and ICB protocols via plugins. 
>        It's customizable, user can write perl scripts to add the new feature.
> 
>        
>   3.4. Competitive Analysis:
> 
>        There are lots of IRC client in Unix world, e.g. ircii, 
>        There are also the GUI IRC client, for example Xchat, Pidgin.
> 
>   3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:
> 
>        It is expected that this project will be integrated into Nevada B100.
> 
>   3.6. How will you know when you are done?:
> 
>        When it is ported to Nevada and runs correctly.  
> 
>        The project will be complete when there are no stoppers, P1 or P2 bugs.
> 
> 4. Technical Description:
> 
>   4.1. Details:
>        
>        Irssi is a text-only IRC client for Unix-ish platforms, it's such an 
>        easy and comfortable client to use, Irssi can range from a functional, 
>        no-frills client to a highly-customized and automated client. It features
>        a text mode user interface, modularity, multi-server connectivity, 
>        tab completion and a lot of automation.
> 
>        One of the many great features of Irssi is its Perl scripting support,
>        you can write your script, and lots of well implemented scripts can be 
>        found on irssi’s script archive. Non-standard features are implemented 
>        with these perl scripts, rather than in the core, so most non-standard 
>        functionality is added through the use of perl scripts. At irssi.org/scripts,
>        there is a large database of these scripts available. To use them, download
>        the perl scripts to your ~/.irssi/scripts directory, then you can run them.
> 
>        Irssi is a modular IRC client that currently has only text mode user
>        interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other
>        UIs could be created pretty easily. Also, Irssi isn't really even IRC
>        specific anymore, there's already a working SILC (http://www.silcnet.org)
>        module available. Support for other protocols like ICQ could be created
>        some day too.
> 
>        In fact, there are some GUI IRC tool, e.g. Xchat, but someone still like
>        to use this terminal-based IRC, because it can be configured manually to 
>        meet the different requirements, you can run lots of command to configure
>        your Irssi, you even can download or write some Perl scripts for some
>        special purpose. 
> 
>        Features:
>           - Optional automation
>           - Multiserver friendy
>           - Channel automation
>           - Window content saving
>           - Tab completing anything
>           - Excellent logging
>           - Excellent ignoring
>           - Lastlog and scrollback handling
> 
>   4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   4.3. In Scope:
> 
>        The default functions and feature in core
> 
>   4.4. Out of Scope:
> 
>        The new functions added by non-standard scripts
> 
>    4.5. Interfaces:
>     
>       Imported Interfaces
>       Interface               Stability    Comments
>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> 
>        libperl	     Uncommitted       PSARC/2001/145
>        libOpenSSL      Contract Private  PSARC/2006/019/
>        GNOME Committed Platform Libraries Committed LSARC/2007/520 GTK+ library
>                                                         GNOME 2.20 
> 
>       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
>       -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------
> 
>        /usr/bin/irssi             Volatile          
>        SUNWirssi                  Uncommitted    Package name
> 
>   4.6. Doc Impact:
> 
>        Man page exist already.
> 
>   4.7. Admin/Config Impact:
> 
>        There are no changes to the system administration and configuration. 
> 
>   4.8. HA Impact:
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:
> 
>        Not to be needed
> 
>   4.10. Packaging & Delivery:
> 
>         The new packages are:
> 
>               -  SUNWirssi
> 
> 
>   4.11. Security Impact:
> 
>         There is no additional security impact for Solaris.
> 
>   4.12. Dependencies:
> 
>         Glib >=2.0
>         libperl
>         
> 5. Reference Documents:
> 
>    Irssi main project page:   
>         http://irssi.org
> 
>  
> 6. Resources and Schedule:
> 
>   6.1. Projected Availability:
>        
>        Expect to integrated into Nevada in build 100 in Q3 2008
> 
>   6.2. Cost of Effort:
> 
>        Development     1.0 Engineers - 1 Months
>        Testing         0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
>        RE              0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
> 
>   6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:
> 
>        N/A
> 
>   6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:
> 
>        6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
> 
>               JDS / OpenSolaris
>  
>        6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:
> 
>               Standard
> 
>        6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:
> 
>               None
> 
>        6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:
> 
>               No
> 
>        6.4.6. Notes:
> 
>               N/A
> 
>        6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:
> 
>               Nevada B100 - Sep. 2008
> 
>        6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:
> 
>               Sep. 2008
> 
>        6.4.9. Update approval addition:
> 
>               New project, no Solaris PAC approval yet
> 
>   6.5. ARC review type:
> 
>        FastTrack
> 
> 7. Prototype Availability:
> 
>   7.1. Prototype Availability:
> 
>        Sep. 2008   
> 
>   7.2. Prototype Cost:
> 
>        1 engineer
>        1 QA
>        1 RE


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Irene Huang wrote:
> Darren 
> 
> Do you mean that you we have to sign one contract for each of the
> project even if the projects belongs to one manager, and the all the
> projects consume the same interfaces? 

Yes because while the projects currently belong to the manager 
organisational structures change.  The ARC process only tracks projects 
not management structure.

> I don't think that makes sense. 

It does if you look at it from an ARC view.  ARC is all about projects.
Regardless of wither or not you think it makes sense that is how it 
currently works and changing it requires a change of ARC policy that you 
can not do in this case.

> The function of contracts is to make sure that the consumers of a
> specific interface know that when the changes of the interfaces may
> affect them.  And I do think that one contract for one manager would do
> that. 

Only given the current organisational structure.

Let me give you an example.

SSH uses OpenSSL for libcrypto.  Originally SSH had a private copy of 
libcrypto, then I made OpenSSL publically visible, same engineer same 
manager but still we signed contracts.  Later SSH and OpenSSL became 
owned by different managers, then later again the same manager (but a 
different one than the original).   Things change.

The current ARC process requires that contracts be signed even in the 
case that the supplying and consuming manager are currently the same 
person if the projects are different.

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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Darren 

Thanks for the explanation. 
We will sign different contracts for different projects. 

thanks 

--Irene 
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:18 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Irene Huang wrote:
> > Darren 
> > 
> > Do you mean that you we have to sign one contract for each of the
> > project even if the projects belongs to one manager, and the all the
> > projects consume the same interfaces? 
> 
> Yes because while the projects currently belong to the manager 
> organisational structures change.  The ARC process only tracks projects 
> not management structure.
> 
> > I don't think that makes sense. 
> 
> It does if you look at it from an ARC view.  ARC is all about projects.
> Regardless of wither or not you think it makes sense that is how it 
> currently works and changing it requires a change of ARC policy that you 
> can not do in this case.
> 
> > The function of contracts is to make sure that the consumers of a
> > specific interface know that when the changes of the interfaces may
> > affect them.  And I do think that one contract for one manager would do
> > that. 
> 
> Only given the current organisational structure.
> 
> Let me give you an example.
> 
> SSH uses OpenSSL for libcrypto.  Originally SSH had a private copy of 
> libcrypto, then I made OpenSSL publically visible, same engineer same 
> manager but still we signed contracts.  Later SSH and OpenSSL became 
> owned by different managers, then later again the same manager (but a 
> different one than the original).   Things change.
> 
> The current ARC process requires that contracts be signed even in the 
> case that the supplying and consuming manager are currently the same 
> person if the projects are different.
> 


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Close approved. 

--Irene
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:39, Irene Huang wrote:

> Contract signing does not block the ARC case. We're still working on the
> contract. 
> 
> If there's any comments on the updated proposal, please send an email
> within 24 hours. If not, I'll close this case then. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> --irene
> 
> On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 11:20 +0800, Henry Zhang wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > Updated..
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Henry
> > 
> > John Plocher д:
> > > Henry Zhang wrote:
> > >> Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
> > >> the contract is ongoing....
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>   4.5. Interfaces:
> > >>     
> > >>       Imported Interfaces
> > >>       Interface               Stability    Comments
> > >>       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
> > > 
> > > The interface stability of OpenSSL is either "External" (which maps to "Volatile"
> > > based on the rationale given) or "Contract Private", and not "Uncommitted".
> > > 
> > > (The mail log for 2006/019 says " ...the interface was classified as External
> > > because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
> > > incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.")
> > > 
> > >    -John
> > > 
> > plain text document attachment (one-pager-irssi.txt)
> > Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.29 04/11/15 SMI
> > 
> > 1. Introduction
> > 
> >   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> > 
> >        Irssi
> > 
> >   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> > 
> >        Henry Zhang     (hua.zhang@sun.com)
> > 
> >   1.3. Date of This Document:
> > 
> >        18/07/08
> > 
> >   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
> > 
> >     1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
> > 
> >            Solaris PAC
> > 
> >     1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
> > 
> >            LSARC
> > 
> >     1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:
> > 
> >            Robert.Odea@Sun.Com
> > 
> >     1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
> > 
> >            JDS Desktop Engineering, OPG
> > 
> >   1.5. Email Aliases:
> >        1.5.1. Responsible Manager:     leo.binchy@Sun.COM
> >        1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:    hua.zhang@Sun.COM
> >        1.5.3. Marketing Manager:       dan.roberts@sun.com
> >        1.5.4. Interest List:           irssi@sun.com
> > 
> > 2. Project Summary
> > 
> >   2.1. Project Description:
> >         
> >        Irssi is a terminal based IRC client for UNIX systems.
> > 
> > 
> >   2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
> >     
> >     1. INSTALL claim that there is some problem on Perl, Perl 5.004 doesn't work
> >        by default, we'll need to edit src/perl/irssi-core.pl and remove all 
> >        lines with "delete_package" in them. We have 5.8 on Solaris, so can ignore
> >        this issue.
> > 
> > 
> > 3. Business Summary
> > 
> >   3.1. Problem Area:
> > 
> >        Irssi is a powerfull console-based irc client, making this tool ready to 
> >        provide an excellent communicating tool to those users who used to the 
> >        text mode IRC, and prefer this type of tool still. 
> > 
> > 
> >   3.2. Market/Requester:
> > 
> >        JDS Desktop group
> > 
> >   3.3. Business Justification:
> >        Irssi is a very good text-based irc client, can be used in any terminal.
> >        It can provide the intuitive and easy way for user to chat each other.
> >        It also supports SILC and ICB protocols via plugins. 
> >        It's customizable, user can write perl scripts to add the new feature.
> > 
> >        
> >   3.4. Competitive Analysis:
> > 
> >        There are lots of IRC client in Unix world, e.g. ircii, 
> >        There are also the GUI IRC client, for example Xchat, Pidgin.
> > 
> >   3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:
> > 
> >        It is expected that this project will be integrated into Nevada B100.
> > 
> >   3.6. How will you know when you are done?:
> > 
> >        When it is ported to Nevada and runs correctly.  
> > 
> >        The project will be complete when there are no stoppers, P1 or P2 bugs.
> > 
> > 4. Technical Description:
> > 
> >   4.1. Details:
> >        
> >        Irssi is a text-only IRC client for Unix-ish platforms, it's such an 
> >        easy and comfortable client to use, Irssi can range from a functional, 
> >        no-frills client to a highly-customized and automated client. It features
> >        a text mode user interface, modularity, multi-server connectivity, 
> >        tab completion and a lot of automation.
> > 
> >        One of the many great features of Irssi is its Perl scripting support,
> >        you can write your script, and lots of well implemented scripts can be 
> >        found on irssi’s script archive. Non-standard features are implemented 
> >        with these perl scripts, rather than in the core, so most non-standard 
> >        functionality is added through the use of perl scripts. At irssi.org/scripts,
> >        there is a large database of these scripts available. To use them, download
> >        the perl scripts to your ~/.irssi/scripts directory, then you can run them.
> > 
> >        Irssi is a modular IRC client that currently has only text mode user
> >        interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other
> >        UIs could be created pretty easily. Also, Irssi isn't really even IRC
> >        specific anymore, there's already a working SILC (http://www.silcnet.org)
> >        module available. Support for other protocols like ICQ could be created
> >        some day too.
> > 
> >        In fact, there are some GUI IRC tool, e.g. Xchat, but someone still like
> >        to use this terminal-based IRC, because it can be configured manually to 
> >        meet the different requirements, you can run lots of command to configure
> >        your Irssi, you even can download or write some Perl scripts for some
> >        special purpose. 
> > 
> >        Features:
> >           - Optional automation
> >           - Multiserver friendy
> >           - Channel automation
> >           - Window content saving
> >           - Tab completing anything
> >           - Excellent logging
> >           - Excellent ignoring
> >           - Lastlog and scrollback handling
> > 
> >   4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):
> > 
> >        N/A
> > 
> >   4.3. In Scope:
> > 
> >        The default functions and feature in core
> > 
> >   4.4. Out of Scope:
> > 
> >        The new functions added by non-standard scripts
> > 
> >    4.5. Interfaces:
> >     
> >       Imported Interfaces
> >       Interface               Stability    Comments
> >       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
> > 
> >        libperl	     Uncommitted       PSARC/2001/145
> >        libOpenSSL      Contract Private  PSARC/2006/019/
> >        GNOME Committed Platform Libraries Committed LSARC/2007/520 GTK+ library
> >                                                         GNOME 2.20 
> > 
> >       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
> >       -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------
> > 
> >        /usr/bin/irssi             Volatile          
> >        SUNWirssi                  Uncommitted    Package name
> > 
> >   4.6. Doc Impact:
> > 
> >        Man page exist already.
> > 
> >   4.7. Admin/Config Impact:
> > 
> >        There are no changes to the system administration and configuration. 
> > 
> >   4.8. HA Impact:
> > 
> >        N/A
> > 
> >   4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:
> > 
> >        Not to be needed
> > 
> >   4.10. Packaging & Delivery:
> > 
> >         The new packages are:
> > 
> >               -  SUNWirssi
> > 
> > 
> >   4.11. Security Impact:
> > 
> >         There is no additional security impact for Solaris.
> > 
> >   4.12. Dependencies:
> > 
> >         Glib >=2.0
> >         libperl
> >         
> > 5. Reference Documents:
> > 
> >    Irssi main project page:   
> >         http://irssi.org
> > 
> >  
> > 6. Resources and Schedule:
> > 
> >   6.1. Projected Availability:
> >        
> >        Expect to integrated into Nevada in build 100 in Q3 2008
> > 
> >   6.2. Cost of Effort:
> > 
> >        Development     1.0 Engineers - 1 Months
> >        Testing         0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
> >        RE              0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
> > 
> >   6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:
> > 
> >        N/A
> > 
> >   6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:
> > 
> >        6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
> > 
> >               JDS / OpenSolaris
> >  
> >        6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:
> > 
> >               Standard
> > 
> >        6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:
> > 
> >               None
> > 
> >        6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:
> > 
> >               No
> > 
> >        6.4.6. Notes:
> > 
> >               N/A
> > 
> >        6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:
> > 
> >               Nevada B100 - Sep. 2008
> > 
> >        6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:
> > 
> >               Sep. 2008
> > 
> >        6.4.9. Update approval addition:
> > 
> >               New project, no Solaris PAC approval yet
> > 
> >   6.5. ARC review type:
> > 
> >        FastTrack
> > 
> > 7. Prototype Availability:
> > 
> >   7.1. Prototype Availability:
> > 
> >        Sep. 2008   
> > 
> >   7.2. Prototype Cost:
> > 
> >        1 engineer
> >        1 QA
> >        1 RE
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Close approved. <BR>
<BR>
--Irene<BR>
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:39, Irene Huang wrote:
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<PRE><I>Contract signing does not block the ARC case. We're still working on the
contract. 

If there's any comments on the updated proposal, please send an email
within 24 hours. If not, I'll close this case then. 

Thanks 

--irene

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 11:20 +0800, Henry Zhang wrote:
&gt; Hi John,
&gt; 
&gt; Updated..
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Henry
&gt; 
&gt; John Plocher &#1076;:
&gt; &gt; Henry Zhang wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; Below is the proposal, I added the libOpenSSL into interface list, and
&gt; &gt;&gt; the contract is ongoing....
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt;&gt;   4.5. Interfaces:
&gt; &gt;&gt;     
&gt; &gt;&gt;       Imported Interfaces
&gt; &gt;&gt;       Interface               Stability    Comments
&gt; &gt;&gt;       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;        libOpenSSL        Uncommitted    PSARC/2006/019/, contract is ongoing
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; The interface stability of OpenSSL is either &quot;External&quot; (which maps to &quot;Volatile&quot;
&gt; &gt; based on the rationale given) or &quot;Contract Private&quot;, and not &quot;Uncommitted&quot;.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; (The mail log for 2006/019 says &quot; ...the interface was classified as External
&gt; &gt; because of very unstable nature of OpenSSL interface, binary/API
&gt; &gt; incompatibilites ...  were to be expected.&quot;)
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt;    -John
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; plain text document attachment (one-pager-irssi.txt)
&gt; Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.29 04/11/15 SMI
&gt; 
&gt; 1. Introduction
&gt; 
&gt;   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
&gt; 
&gt;        Irssi
&gt; 
&gt;   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
&gt; 
&gt;        Henry Zhang     (hua.zhang@sun.com)
&gt; 
&gt;   1.3. Date of This Document:
&gt; 
&gt;        18/07/08
&gt; 
&gt;   1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
&gt; 
&gt;     1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
&gt; 
&gt;            Solaris PAC
&gt; 
&gt;     1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
&gt; 
&gt;            LSARC
&gt; 
&gt;     1.4.3. The Director/VP who is &quot;Sponsoring&quot; this project:
&gt; 
&gt;            Robert.Odea@Sun.Com
&gt; 
&gt;     1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
&gt; 
&gt;            JDS Desktop Engineering, OPG
&gt; 
&gt;   1.5. Email Aliases:
&gt;        1.5.1. Responsible Manager:     leo.binchy@Sun.COM
&gt;        1.5.2. Responsible Engineer:    hua.zhang@Sun.COM
&gt;        1.5.3. Marketing Manager:       dan.roberts@sun.com
&gt;        1.5.4. Interest List:           irssi@sun.com
&gt; 
&gt; 2. Project Summary
&gt; 
&gt;   2.1. Project Description:
&gt;         
&gt;        Irssi is a terminal based IRC client for UNIX systems.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;   2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
&gt;     
&gt;     1. INSTALL claim that there is some problem on Perl, Perl 5.004 doesn't work
&gt;        by default, we'll need to edit src/perl/irssi-core.pl and remove all 
&gt;        lines with &quot;delete_package&quot; in them. We have 5.8 on Solaris, so can ignore
&gt;        this issue.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 3. Business Summary
&gt; 
&gt;   3.1. Problem Area:
&gt; 
&gt;        Irssi is a powerfull console-based irc client, making this tool ready to 
&gt;        provide an excellent communicating tool to those users who used to the 
&gt;        text mode IRC, and prefer this type of tool still. 
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;   3.2. Market/Requester:
&gt; 
&gt;        JDS Desktop group
&gt; 
&gt;   3.3. Business Justification:
&gt;        Irssi is a very good text-based irc client, can be used in any terminal.
&gt;        It can provide the intuitive and easy way for user to chat each other.
&gt;        It also supports SILC and ICB protocols via plugins. 
&gt;        It's customizable, user can write perl scripts to add the new feature.
&gt; 
&gt;        
&gt;   3.4. Competitive Analysis:
&gt; 
&gt;        There are lots of IRC client in Unix world, e.g. ircii, 
&gt;        There are also the GUI IRC client, for example Xchat, Pidgin.
&gt; 
&gt;   3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:
&gt; 
&gt;        It is expected that this project will be integrated into Nevada B100.
&gt; 
&gt;   3.6. How will you know when you are done?:
&gt; 
&gt;        When it is ported to Nevada and runs correctly.  
&gt; 
&gt;        The project will be complete when there are no stoppers, P1 or P2 bugs.
&gt; 
&gt; 4. Technical Description:
&gt; 
&gt;   4.1. Details:
&gt;        
&gt;        Irssi is a text-only IRC client for Unix-ish platforms, it's such an 
&gt;        easy and comfortable client to use, Irssi can range from a functional, 
&gt;        no-frills client to a highly-customized and automated client. It features
&gt;        a text mode user interface, modularity, multi-server connectivity, 
&gt;        tab completion and a lot of automation.
&gt; 
&gt;        One of the many great features of Irssi is its Perl scripting support,
&gt;        you can write your script, and lots of well implemented scripts can be 
&gt;        found on irssi&#8217;s script archive. Non-standard features are implemented 
&gt;        with these perl scripts, rather than in the core, so most non-standard 
&gt;        functionality is added through the use of perl scripts. At irssi.org/scripts,
&gt;        there is a large database of these scripts available. To use them, download
&gt;        the perl scripts to your ~/.irssi/scripts directory, then you can run them.
&gt; 
&gt;        Irssi is a modular IRC client that currently has only text mode user
&gt;        interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other
&gt;        UIs could be created pretty easily. Also, Irssi isn't really even IRC
&gt;        specific anymore, there's already a working SILC (<A HREF="http://www.silcnet.org"><U>http://www.silcnet.org</U></A>)
&gt;        module available. Support for other protocols like ICQ could be created
&gt;        some day too.
&gt; 
&gt;        In fact, there are some GUI IRC tool, e.g. Xchat, but someone still like
&gt;        to use this terminal-based IRC, because it can be configured manually to 
&gt;        meet the different requirements, you can run lots of command to configure
&gt;        your Irssi, you even can download or write some Perl scripts for some
&gt;        special purpose. 
&gt; 
&gt;        Features:
&gt;           - Optional automation
&gt;           - Multiserver friendy
&gt;           - Channel automation
&gt;           - Window content saving
&gt;           - Tab completing anything
&gt;           - Excellent logging
&gt;           - Excellent ignoring
&gt;           - Lastlog and scrollback handling
&gt; 
&gt;   4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):
&gt; 
&gt;        N/A
&gt; 
&gt;   4.3. In Scope:
&gt; 
&gt;        The default functions and feature in core
&gt; 
&gt;   4.4. Out of Scope:
&gt; 
&gt;        The new functions added by non-standard scripts
&gt; 
&gt;    4.5. Interfaces:
&gt;     
&gt;       Imported Interfaces
&gt;       Interface               Stability    Comments
&gt;       -------------------     -----------  -----------------------------------
&gt; 
&gt;        libperl	     Uncommitted       PSARC/2001/145
&gt;        libOpenSSL      Contract Private  PSARC/2006/019/
&gt;        GNOME Committed Platform Libraries Committed LSARC/2007/520 GTK+ library
&gt;                                                         GNOME 2.20 
&gt; 
&gt;       Exported Interfaces        Stability      Comments
&gt;       -------------------------  -------------  ---------------------------------
&gt; 
&gt;        /usr/bin/irssi             Volatile          
&gt;        SUNWirssi                  Uncommitted    Package name
&gt; 
&gt;   4.6. Doc Impact:
&gt; 
&gt;        Man page exist already.
&gt; 
&gt;   4.7. Admin/Config Impact:
&gt; 
&gt;        There are no changes to the system administration and configuration. 
&gt; 
&gt;   4.8. HA Impact:
&gt; 
&gt;        N/A
&gt; 
&gt;   4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:
&gt; 
&gt;        Not to be needed
&gt; 
&gt;   4.10. Packaging &amp; Delivery:
&gt; 
&gt;         The new packages are:
&gt; 
&gt;               -  SUNWirssi
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;   4.11. Security Impact:
&gt; 
&gt;         There is no additional security impact for Solaris.
&gt; 
&gt;   4.12. Dependencies:
&gt; 
&gt;         Glib &gt;=2.0
&gt;         libperl
&gt;         
&gt; 5. Reference Documents:
&gt; 
&gt;    Irssi main project page:   
&gt;         <A HREF="http://irssi.org"><U>http://irssi.org</U></A>
&gt; 
&gt;  
&gt; 6. Resources and Schedule:
&gt; 
&gt;   6.1. Projected Availability:
&gt;        
&gt;        Expect to integrated into Nevada in build 100 in Q3 2008
&gt; 
&gt;   6.2. Cost of Effort:
&gt; 
&gt;        Development     1.0 Engineers - 1 Months
&gt;        Testing         0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
&gt;        RE              0.5 Engineers - 1 Week
&gt; 
&gt;   6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:
&gt; 
&gt;        N/A
&gt; 
&gt;   6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
&gt; 
&gt;               JDS / OpenSolaris
&gt;  
&gt;        6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:
&gt; 
&gt;               Standard
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:
&gt; 
&gt;               None
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:
&gt; 
&gt;               No
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.6. Notes:
&gt; 
&gt;               N/A
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:
&gt; 
&gt;               Nevada B100 - Sep. 2008
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:
&gt; 
&gt;               Sep. 2008
&gt; 
&gt;        6.4.9. Update approval addition:
&gt; 
&gt;               New project, no Solaris PAC approval yet
&gt; 
&gt;   6.5. ARC review type:
&gt; 
&gt;        FastTrack
&gt; 
&gt; 7. Prototype Availability:
&gt; 
&gt;   7.1. Prototype Availability:
&gt; 
&gt;        Sep. 2008   
&gt; 
&gt;   7.2. Prototype Cost:
&gt; 
&gt;        1 engineer
&gt;        1 QA
&gt;        1 RE
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