From sacadmin Tue Oct 14 09:39:38 2008 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9EGdcfH008680; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from johnf@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m9EGdcoR008676; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Fischer Message-Id: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: James.Walker@Sun.COM, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Subject: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Status: RO Content-Length: 2158 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase %I% %G% SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Junit 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Mengwei Jiao 1.3 Date of This Document: 14 October, 2008 4. Technical Description Summary ======= JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. JUnit features include: * Assertions for testing expected results * Test fixtures for sharing common test data * Test runners for running tests Junit4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. This project requests a minor release binding. Dependencies ============ None Interfaces ========== Stability classification Uncommitted for all exported interfaces. Man pages are included in the case materials directory. Exported Interfaces ------------------- SUNWjunit Package /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar Junit jar file, /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5-src.jar Junit source jar file /usr/share/man/man3/junit.3 Man page /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private Directory Imported Interfaces ------------------- None The following additional installed directory and file are not interface. Additional document ------------------- /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc junit javadoc /usr/share/doc/junit/README.html README file /usr/share/doc/junit/doc junit cookbook, Release Notes, faq. /usr/share/doc/junit/samples junit sample test Reference Documents =================== [1] http://junit.org/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ RFE ID# 6713703 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: SFW 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From John.Fischer@Sun.COM Tue Oct 14 09:56:41 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9EGuee0011298 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (sca-es-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.43.133]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9EGueq9020947 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9EGuZvV008725 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K8Q00501MT7XY00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.7] ([76.20.56.47]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K8Q00FYQN2AH170@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:20 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@Sun.COM To: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: James.Walker@Sun.COM, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Reply-to: John.Fischer@Sun.COM Message-id: <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070622) Status: RO Content-Length: 2249 All, I am sponsoring this fast track for Mengwei Jiao. I have set the timer for Tuesday October 21st, 2008. The case materials contains this proposal and the man page for the junit command. This project proposes to include the JUnit test framework in a Minor release of Solaris. JUnit is a Java test harness. The interfaces are being declared Uncommitted. Thanks, John Summary ======= JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. JUnit features include: * Assertions for testing expected results * Test fixtures for sharing common test data * Test runners for running tests Junit4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. This project requests a minor release binding. Dependencies ============ None Interfaces ========== Stability classification Uncommitted for all exported interfaces. Man pages are included in the case materials directory. Exported Interfaces ------------------- SUNWjunit Package /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar Junit jar file, /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5-src.jar Junit source jar file /usr/share/man/man3/junit.3 Man page /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private Directory Imported Interfaces ------------------- None The following additional installed directory and file are not interface. Additional document ------------------- /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc junit javadoc /usr/share/doc/junit/README.html README file /usr/share/doc/junit/doc junit cookbook, Release Notes, faq. /usr/share/doc/junit/samples junit sample test Reference Documents =================== [1] http://junit.org/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ RFE ID# 6713703 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: SFW 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From tom.childers@sun.com Tue Oct 21 10:17:02 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LHH2PG012125 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (sca-es-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.43.133]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LHH22a001358 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LHGvCu015932 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9300G01LCP8800@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from tom.childers@sun.com) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labnis-qfe4.SFBay.Sun.COM ([75.101.10.233]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K93004GXMO4KLI0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:16:19 -0700 From: Tom Childers Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> Sender: Thomas.Childers@sun.com To: James.Walker@sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 3271 Mengwei & James, Can someone tell me why we are doing this? What is the problem we are trying to solve? I'm not aware of any other platforms that include junit out of the box, and some middleware (like Glassfish) already packages junit. One of the other ARC members observes that their Maven build system expects to find junit in a specific place, so this installation will not be useful. Also, the usage model for junit requires often requires current and/or specific releases, which come out pretty frequently. Sometimes, developers even require several versions installed. There have been at least six 'dot' releases in the last two years. How is the project team addressing this requirement? I should have sent this question out last week, and I apologize. We are extending the timer on this fast-track for a couple of days to resolve these issues. -tdc On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:56 AM, John Fischer wrote: > All, > > I am sponsoring this fast track for Mengwei Jiao. I have > set the timer for Tuesday October 21st, 2008. The case > materials contains this proposal and the man page for the > junit command. > > This project proposes to include the JUnit test framework > in a Minor release of Solaris. JUnit is a Java test harness. > The interfaces are being declared Uncommitted. > > Thanks, > > John > > > Summary > ======= > JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java > programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. > JUnit features include: > > * Assertions for testing expected results > * Test fixtures for sharing common test data > * Test runners for running tests > > Junit4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of > this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. > > This project requests a minor release binding. > > > Dependencies > ============ > > None > > > Interfaces > ========== > > Stability classification Uncommitted for all exported interfaces. > Man > pages are included in the case materials directory. > > Exported Interfaces > ------------------- > SUNWjunit Package > /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar Junit jar file, > /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5-src.jar Junit source jar > file > /usr/share/man/man3/junit.3 Man page > /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private > Directory > > Imported Interfaces > ------------------- > None > > The following additional installed directory and file are not > interface. > > Additional document > ------------------- > /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc junit javadoc > /usr/share/doc/junit/README.html README file > /usr/share/doc/junit/doc junit cookbook, Release > Notes, faq. > /usr/share/doc/junit/samples junit sample test > > > > Reference Documents > =================== > [1] http://junit.org/ > [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ > RFE ID# 6713703 > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > SFW > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From sacadmin Tue Oct 21 10:41:52 2008 Received: from mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.229.4]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LHfqEc012440; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (mumak [127.0.0.1]) by mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9LHhA53025253; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id m9LHhA7V025252; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:43:10 -0700 From: Danek Duvall To: John Fischer Cc: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, James.Walker@sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Message-ID: <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 780 On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 09:39:38AM -0700, John Fischer wrote: > Exported Interfaces > ------------------- > SUNWjunit Package > /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar Junit jar file, > /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5-src.jar Junit source jar file > /usr/share/man/man3/junit.3 Man page > /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private Directory Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is probably sufficient documentation. Danek From James.Walker@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 12:54:14 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LJsE3Y017126 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LJsErC051285 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LJsE36012711 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:54:14 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9300401RWQ8L00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9300MOFTY2UA80@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:54:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:08:03 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: Tom Childers Cc: Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 2249 Tom Childers wrote: > Mengwei & James, > > Can someone tell me why we are doing this? What is the problem we are > trying to solve? I'm not aware of any other platforms that include > junit out of the box, and some middleware (like Glassfish) already > packages junit. Junit was chosen to be ported as a separate package because of the many test tools and extensions that depend on it. Thus, it would open up more packages for our team and others to use and port. For example, there about 20 on this page alone: http://www.opensourcetesting.org/unit_java.php In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for various versions of Junit packages already: http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html Another reason to port Junit as a separate package was to establish a "known" location for the current version of Junit on OpenSolaris, so other products don't have to port their own version, so we can reduce redundant code where possible. > One of the other ARC members observes that their Maven build system > expects to find junit in a specific place, so this installation will not > be useful. Also, the usage model for junit requires often requires > current and/or specific releases, which come out pretty frequently. > Sometimes, developers even require several versions installed. There > have been at least six 'dot' releases in the last two years. How is the > project team addressing this requirement? We understand we will not be able to support all applications that depend on Junit for one reason or another. We also understand the problem where several open source projects depend on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the current version and revise it as new releases are made available. Then, look at adding additional older versions that are frequently used/requested. > I should have sent this question out last week, and I apologize. We are > extending the timer on this fast-track for a couple of days to resolve > these issues. Let us know if you have any other questions. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From storycrafter@gmail.com Tue Oct 21 13:29:15 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LKTEgg018783 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LKTESQ053075 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay12i.sun.com (ip122.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.122]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LKPUvm023643 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:29:14 GMT Received: from mmp12es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.208.12] [160.41.208.12]) by relay12i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-1341273 for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:29:13 Z Received: from relay17i.sun.com (relay17i.sun.com [129.179.4.127]) by mmp12es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-62840318 for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:29:13 Z Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.44.30] [74.125.44.30]) by relay1ib.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-25069905 for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:29:13 Z Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so430082yxg.27 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DuCy7dTnGFbxygamzPzn2Pba23FUhWAfnD1EwLbPZt4=; b=G3NgMx8s6Fi645gFpFAmStpIWr0PY4mCfy6hWaYDMZesnaGxWlsotJNiJGjUKT8AjK fdFJzuoaayjQ0inmygKHV1w/BmTgaPIeF3EFx7mqd3ILUBVulKvHRcsfrEaOUOt8kZY2 P1lFvAVeAi5qVnzZh/jXqyJCNDmoGwagskogk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=R6cANtaJhtMqdcLeeeNWw4D0G+4orDC1uVEbj2z+A9iWgHSsaaP71OU0ri8aDgavOC EBjBN2j4ghrNCg4FpfrwKdHldx+CF0mye1mayikQy9YzCJrGL68GUzyb9le71ojULZbV /iipnGHl73EBD10eB/OAjYG1UAE5tvVYG4kkY= Received: by 10.100.153.4 with SMTP id a4mr10623247ane.101.1224620944408; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.8 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:29:04 -0500 From: "Mark Martin" To: James.Walker@sun.com Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com In-Reply-To: <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=0.0/5.0, scanned in 0.061sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14452_15779055.1224620944402" Status: RO Content-Length: 1255 ------=_Part_14452_15779055.1224620944402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Walker wrote: > > In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for > various versions of Junit packages already: > http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html Is that information openly exposable? ------=_Part_14452_15779055.1224620944402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Walker <James.Walker@sun.com> wrote:

In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for
various versions of Junit packages already:
http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html

Is that information openly exposable?  

------=_Part_14452_15779055.1224620944402-- From John.Plocher@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 13:33:44 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LKXiqD019131 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LKXh8C056238 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LKXccS000707 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9300K01VR9AH00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K93008GQVRZ1730@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:31 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Sender: John.Plocher@Sun.COM To: James.Walker@Sun.COM Cc: Tom Childers , LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 909 Jim Walker wrote: > We also understand the problem where several open source projects depend > on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use > the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the current > version and revise it as new releases are made available. Then, look at > adding additional older versions that are frequently used/requested. There needs to be something about how you intend to handle these newer versions. The canonical choices are: 1) overwrite the old version with the new, thus only having one installed at any given time, or 2) have some directory structure/pkg architecture to support the unambiguous installation and use of multiple versions on a single system simultaneously If 1, why are you doing something that isn't well aligned with the known use-case for the component, and if 2, how will you actually do it? -John From James.Walker@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 13:37:04 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LKb415019409 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LKb3WE013474 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LKb3vp027800 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:37:03 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9300601VJ9RU00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9300II5VXJUL10@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:50:56 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: Mark Martin Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE40B0.2040506@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 226 Mark Martin wrote: > Is that information openly exposable? Not at the moment. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From John.Plocher@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 14:44:58 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LLiwUH022235 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9LLiw1G058044 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9LLirO3009824 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9300701YRJF900@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9300H9YZ2M1C00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:42 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: Sender: John.Plocher@Sun.COM To: Mark Martin Cc: James.Walker@Sun.COM, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <48FE4D4A.8030703@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 868 Mark Martin wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Walker > wrote: > > In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for > various versions of Junit packages already: > http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html > > > Is that information openly exposable? The page is on an internal server, so no. On the other hand, some context might be useful - it is a list of ~10k search terms collected over 6 months, with 30 (like top, nano, kde and tcpdump) getting a hundred to several hundreds of requests, ~350 getting between 10 and 99 requests, and the rest (~9500) getting less than 10 requests each. (Much of this long tail seems to be made up of spelling variations, wildcards and noise...) junit in all its various spellings got 14, ranking it somewhere around 250 on the list. -John From James.Walker@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 17:05:49 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9M05niB025831 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9M05mvw008334 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9M05m0W029325 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:05:48 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9400G015GNHT00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K94009F65LNSK30@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:19:49 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: John Plocher Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE71A5.4080703@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 2601 John Plocher wrote: > Jim Walker wrote: >> We also understand the problem where several open source projects depend >> on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use >> the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the current >> version and revise it as new releases are made available. Then, look at >> adding additional older versions that are frequently used/requested. > > There needs to be something about how you intend to handle these > newer versions. The canonical choices are: > > 1) overwrite the old version with the new, thus only having one > installed at any given time, or This is (was) what we are (were) planning for this integration. > 2) have some directory structure/pkg architecture to support the > unambiguous installation and use of multiple versions on a > single system simultaneously If you like, we can expand the scope of this case to include multiple Junit versions. Blastwave uses the jar file name to communicate the version information, which is one approach and the way we have it organized in this case: http://www.blastwave.org/filesearch.php/junit /opt/csw/share/java/junit.jar /opt/csw/share/java/junit-4.jar /opt/csw/share/java/junit-4.2.jar dbunit and abbot both depend on junit 3.8.2. So, we could include it to establish how we handle multiple versions. dbunit and abbot are viable open source packages for us to port. We could update the spec interfaces to look like this, with the man page and documentation focused on the most recent version. /usr/share/lib/java/junit.jar (link to latest version) /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5-src.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2-src.jar /usr/share/man/man3/junit.3 /usr/share/doc/junit The goal here is to avoid having every tool that needs junit have to include it separately. It's much more efficient to just change the CLASSPATH. > If 1, why are you doing something that isn't well aligned with > the known use-case for the component, and if 2, how will you > actually do it? Is Maven the "known use-case"? Junit is more general than that. It's designed to test any Java code. It's clear, people are looking for it "as-is", and it's important to have a standalone IPS package for it. BTW. Regarding: "Maven build system expects to find junit in a specific place". That seems flawed to me. Maybe we should push a Maven change upstream. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From John.Plocher@Sun.COM Tue Oct 21 17:58:21 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9M0wLBp027275 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9M0wLJ1034074 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9M0wFK7028448 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K94002017YGHL00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9400L7L813YA90@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:11 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE71A5.4080703@sun.com> Sender: John.Plocher@Sun.COM To: James.Walker@Sun.COM Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE7AA3.1010200@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> <48FE71A5.4080703@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 577 Jim Walker wrote: >> If 1, why are you doing something that isn't well aligned with >> the known use-case for the component, and if 2, how will you >> actually do it? > > Is Maven the "known use-case"? Not really - the use case is that most every java thing that uses junit, depends on a different version of junit being there. Some go as far as bundling junit.jar with their own stuff just to make sure, but if we want people to use the one on OpenSolaris, we need to allow for the fact that people will want multiple versions. Sorry for being too succinct. -John From sacadmin Tue Oct 21 19:32:32 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9M2WWVa028885 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9M2WV8b006981 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9M2WV6i011111 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:32:31 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9400M01CAUCL00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC@sac.SFBay.Sun.COM; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K94000JACE7R9F0@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:46:33 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: Danek Duvall Cc: LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 572 Danek Duvall wrote: > > Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the > Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are > there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some > distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is > probably sufficient documentation. Do you mean something like this: http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From sacadmin Tue Oct 21 19:59:51 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9M2xpUR029702 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9M2xoZG059772 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9M2xjbB009453 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:59:45 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K9400L01DI18L00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM) for LSARC@sac.SFBay.Sun.COM; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:59:45 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.218.127] by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9400I4XDNGHEG0@mail-apac.sun.com>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:59:45 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:58:47 +0800 From: mengwei jiao - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> Sender: Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM To: James.Walker@Sun.COM Cc: Danek Duvall , LSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <48FE96E7.8000203@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 627 On 10/22/08 10:46, Jim Walker wrote: > Danek Duvall wrote: >> >> Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the >> Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. >> Or are >> there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some >> distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is >> probably sufficient documentation. > > Do you mean something like this: > http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ All document accessible from this link will be installed in the following project private directory usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc Thanks Mengwei From Jyri.Virkki@sun.com Tue Oct 21 23:39:45 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9M6djgd003963 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9M6djiH007571 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (host-179-56-18-192.iplanet.com [192.18.56.179] (may be forged)) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9M6dir5006751; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:39:44 GMT Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (buye [192.18.65.224]) by dm-usca19-13.red.iplanet.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/IPLANET,v1.2) with ESMTP id m9M6dis08044; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buye.red.iplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9M6diCh022524; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jyri@localhost) by buye.red.iplanet.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) id m9M6diD8022523; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:44 -0700 From: Jyri Virkki To: Jim Walker Cc: Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Message-ID: <20081022063943.GM11572@sun.com> References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Status: RO Content-Length: 768 Jim Walker wrote: > > Another reason to port Junit as a separate package was to establish > a "known" location for the current version of Junit on OpenSolaris, > so other products don't have to port their own version, so we can > reduce redundant code where possible. +1.. Part of the problem is a chicken-egg issue. It seems every Java app bundles every jar file in the world because they aren't available conveniently from anywhere, so it's the easiest way to go. Hopefully if some of the well-known libraries cement themselves into well-known stable locations, Java projects will over time start to trust their existence and depend on them. (I realize there's more to the problem, but baby steps...) -- Jyri J. Virkki - jyri.virkki@sun.com - Sun Microsystems From danek.duvall@sun.com Wed Oct 22 09:40:49 2008 Received: from mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.229.4]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9MGenSd021970 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (mumak [127.0.0.1]) by mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9MGg7BJ000634; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id m9MGg7D3000633; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:42:07 -0700 From: Danek Duvall To: Jim Walker Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Message-ID: <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 934 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: > Danek Duvall wrote: >> >> Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the >> Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or >> are >> there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some >> distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is >> probably sufficient documentation. > > Do you mean something like this: > http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ Yes, that's the list of stuff, but a) it's spread over a ton of pages rather than a simple list in a text file and b) there are no stability attributes associated with any of those names. If you assert that all the interfaces described at that URL are Public, and that they are Uncommitted, that's fine (I'll assume that someone actually checked to make sure). But if there's any heterogeneity, it should be called out. Danek From James.Walker@Sun.COM Wed Oct 22 19:09:11 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9N29BC7014537 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9N29BI1029593 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9N29BGc000478 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:09:11 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K96006015TXGU00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.SFBay.Sun.COM; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K96000FK5ZAS4A0@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:23:19 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: Danek Duvall Cc: LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <48FFE017.5070408@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 1225 Danek Duvall wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: > >> Danek Duvall wrote: >>> Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the >>> Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or >>> are >>> there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some >>> distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is >>> probably sufficient documentation. >> Do you mean something like this: >> http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ > > Yes, that's the list of stuff, but a) it's spread over a ton of pages > rather than a simple list in a text file and b) there are no stability > attributes associated with any of those names. > > If you assert that all the interfaces described at that URL are Public, and > that they are Uncommitted, that's fine (I'll assume that someone actually > checked to make sure). But if there's any heterogeneity, it should be > called out. There's public and protected interfaces, so we will need to put together a list of the public interfaces. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Wed Oct 22 19:18:58 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9N2Iwbs014590 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9N2IvKU020636 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9N2IpIS013206 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:18:51 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K9600H016DDND00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.SFBay.Sun.COM; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:18:51 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.111] ([125.34.68.154]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K96001XG6FBRZTO@mail-apac.sun.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:18:51 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:16:22 +0800 From: mengwei Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> Sender: Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM To: Danek Duvall Cc: Jim Walker , LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <48FFDE76.3060808@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 1290 Danek Duvall 写道: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: > > >> Danek Duvall wrote: >> >>> Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the >>> Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or >>> are >>> there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some >>> distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials directory is >>> probably sufficient documentation. >>> >> Do you mean something like this: >> http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ >> > > Yes, that's the list of stuff, but a) it's spread over a ton of pages > rather than a simple list in a text file and b) there are no stability > attributes associated with any of those names. > > If you assert that all the interfaces described at that URL are Public, and > that they are Uncommitted, that's fine (I'll assume that someone actually > checked to make sure). But if there's any heterogeneity, it should be > called out. > > Danek > Yes, That is what we plan to do. The javadoc describe all the public interface and all of them has an Uncommitted attribute as it is out of our control for an open source project, Though I do think the junit project will try to have backwards compatibility. Mengwei From Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Wed Oct 22 19:30:31 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9N2UVbJ014743 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9N2UUqT036777 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9N2UPJU014190 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:30:25 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0K9600C016UJSD00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.SFBay.Sun.COM; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:30:25 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.111] ([125.34.68.154]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9600AG16YNR8TG@mail-apac.sun.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:30:24 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:27:58 +0800 From: mengwei Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FFE017.5070408@sun.com> Sender: Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM To: James.Walker@Sun.COM Cc: Danek Duvall , LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <48FFE12E.9000608@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20081021174310.GO7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FE9409.2080108@sun.com> <20081022164207.GX7489@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM> <48FFE017.5070408@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 1341 Jim Walker 写道: > Danek Duvall wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: >> >>> Danek Duvall wrote: >>>> Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the >>>> Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. >>>> Or are >>>> there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If there's some >>>> distinction, then a simple list in a file in the materials >>>> directory is >>>> probably sufficient documentation. >>> Do you mean something like this: >>> http://junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/ >> >> Yes, that's the list of stuff, but a) it's spread over a ton of pages >> rather than a simple list in a text file and b) there are no stability >> attributes associated with any of those names. >> >> If you assert that all the interfaces described at that URL are >> Public, and >> that they are Uncommitted, that's fine (I'll assume that someone >> actually >> checked to make sure). But if there's any heterogeneity, it should be >> called out. > > There's public and protected interfaces, so we will need to put together > a list of the public interfaces. > > Cheers, > Jim > I think ‘Protected' is a java attribute, The user may use public or protected method in a different way. But still both of them are public interfaces for a user or developer. Mengwei From Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM Mon Oct 27 11:56:12 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-02.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.31]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RIuC7t017384 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9RIuCQF008493 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9RIu7G9015924 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9E00H01UTMMW00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (diglloyd.com [208.65.183.162]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9E002YLV9AZQ80@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:55:58 -0700 From: Lloyd Chambers Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Sender: Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM To: James.Walker@Sun.COM Cc: Tom Childers , Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 2053 Anyone using maven has this problem solved already. I agree there might be crufty builds which might require downloading and installing, but a lot of software development now uses maven. Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten versions? No problem. This is what we do in the Glassfish pom.xml; we have no need for an installed junit. The build find the appropriate version from a maven repository. This is far more elegant and free of headaches caused by actually installing something. junit junit 4.3.1 test true .............................................. Lloyd Chambers lloyd.chambers@sun.com GlassFish team, LSARC member On Oct 21, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Jim Walker wrote: >> One of the other ARC members observes that their Maven build system >> expects to find junit in a specific place, so this installation >> will not be useful. Also, the usage model for junit requires often >> requires current and/or specific releases, which come out pretty >> frequently. Sometimes, developers even require several versions >> installed. There have been at least six 'dot' releases in the last >> two years. How is the project team addressing this requirement? > > We understand we will not be able to support all applications that > depend > on Junit for one reason or another. > > We also understand the problem where several open source projects > depend > on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use > the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the current > version and revise it as new releases are made available. Then, look > at > adding additional older versions that are frequently used/requested. From Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM Mon Oct 27 11:59:16 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RIxGRi017401 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9RIxGTW005676 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9RIxBk5016506 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9E00E01UQG5M00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (llc4.com [208.65.183.162]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9E00CQDVED7B80@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:01 -0700 From: Lloyd Chambers Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> Sender: Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM To: John Plocher Cc: James.Walker@Sun.COM, Tom Childers , LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM Message-id: <488ADCA4-0F3A-4271-9C12-D03CF45936CE@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> <48FE3C9B.4000408@Sun.Com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1598 IMO, it is unacceptable to overwrite the old version. Software development does not work that way: you want specific versions and you do not want a new one appearing randomly to cause new problems. If it's maven-based, then the problem is solved (see my previous message). If not, I would never create a build system that assumed some installed version would be the right one; I'd commit the needed version into my source code/build repository eg svn or cvs. Lloyd .............................................. Lloyd Chambers lloyd.chambers@sun.com GlassFish team, LSARC member On Oct 21, 2008, at 1:33 PM, John Plocher wrote: > Jim Walker wrote: >> We also understand the problem where several open source projects >> depend >> on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use >> the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the >> current >> version and revise it as new releases are made available. Then, >> look at >> adding additional older versions that are frequently used/requested. > > There needs to be something about how you intend to handle these > newer versions. The canonical choices are: > > 1) overwrite the old version with the new, thus only having one > installed at any given time, or > > 2) have some directory structure/pkg architecture to support the > unambiguous installation and use of multiple versions on a > single system simultaneously > > If 1, why are you doing something that isn't well aligned with > the known use-case for the component, and if 2, how will you > actually do it? > > -John > > From roehrich@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM Mon Oct 27 13:01:40 2008 Received: from kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM [10.1.170.217]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RK1dTW019460 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9RK1dY4003841; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from roehrich@localhost) by kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m9RK1dLA003840; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:39 -0500 From: Dean Roehrich To: Lloyd Chambers Cc: James.Walker@sun.com, Tom Childers , Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] Message-ID: <20081027200139.GA3810@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Status: RO Content-Length: 482 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55:58AM -0700, Lloyd Chambers wrote: > Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository > (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up > automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten > versions? No problem. So the local maven repository can contain multiple versions of junit? Does this mean some ARC cases are backwards--that we need to see the Maven case before we see Junit? Dean From James.Walker@Sun.COM Mon Oct 27 13:20:29 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RKKTh8020287 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9RKKT0U058559 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9RKKSg7009004 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:20:28 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9E00C01X3NOA00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:20:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9E0084GZ5RZ0D0@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:34:57 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <20081027200139.GA3810@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> Sender: James.Walker@Sun.COM To: Dean Roehrich Cc: Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Reply-to: James.Walker@Sun.COM Message-id: <490625F1.4050803@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> <20081027200139.GA3810@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 828 Dean Roehrich wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55:58AM -0700, Lloyd Chambers wrote: >> Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository >> (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up >> automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten >> versions? No problem. > > So the local maven repository can contain multiple versions of junit? Does > this mean some ARC cases are backwards--that we need to see the Maven case > before we see Junit? > This case is about establishing a junit package that contains popular junit versions, so applications don't have to ship junit in their packages, and to provide standalone support for junit. Maven appears to have it's own approach to obtaining junit, and I think is outside the scope of this case. Cheers, Jim From Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM Tue Oct 28 09:09:42 2008 Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (dm-sfbay-01.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.118]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9SG9foT023796 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9SG9fiO037638 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9SG9a53003845 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9G00001HDKOO00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (diglloyd.com [208.65.183.162]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9G001N8I7Z1YD0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:09:35 -0700 From: Lloyd Chambers Subject: Re: Junit [LSARC/2008/633 FastTrack timeout 10/21/2008] In-reply-to: <20081027200139.GA3810@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> Sender: Lloyd.Chambers@Sun.COM To: Dean Roehrich Cc: James.Walker@Sun.COM, Tom Childers , Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM, LSARC-ext@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <32B6AA1A-7F40-4E67-8A29-3CC0FA4DB8D1@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200810141639.m9EGdcoR008676@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <48F4CF34.7010303@sun.com> <3096C838-E0B7-4E7A-AD46-7C71A1E19BFE@sun.com> <48FE36A3.6090607@sun.com> <20081027200139.GA3810@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> Status: RO Content-Length: 1612 My comments should not hold up this junit case. ... I don't think we need to see any maven case-- I was just stating what is fairly common development practice which makes installation of junit and many other libraries a moot issue: one writes a maven build script (pom) and it automatically sucks down the right versions of everything from maven repositories. NetBeans also directly supports maven pom files, so even there the need for installed libraries like junit goes away. I agree with other comments that there is still a place for installation of various libraries like junit (so long as multiple versions are supported, otherwise I think it is impractical). But in all the development I do (work and home), I use maven, and I don't have to bother. It's far more elegant to have the maven build pull down the right version as needed than having to install and maintain versions of (for example) junit. Lloyd .............................................. Lloyd Chambers lloyd.chambers@sun.com GlassFish team, LSARC member On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Dean Roehrich wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55:58AM -0700, Lloyd Chambers wrote: >> Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository >> (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up >> automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten >> versions? No problem. > > So the local maven repository can contain multiple versions of > junit? Does > this mean some ARC cases are backwards--that we need to see the > Maven case > before we see Junit? > > Dean From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Nov 11 09:46:13 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mABHkDlO026007 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id mABHk99t038443; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:46:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KA60031XK0ZY400@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KA6000V8K0XRT50@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mABHk9kB024773; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:46:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KA600J01H80CS00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:46:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from 129.145.154.66 ([129.145.154.66]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KA600HB8K0VOX20@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:46:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:46:07 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: LSARC/2008/633 - junit Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: LSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: james.wlaker@sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.301 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Vg/M/q3Wdmwd+4uZ+zg9XQ)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 2327 --Boundary_(ID_Vg/M/q3Wdmwd+4uZ+zg9XQ) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, The case directory has been updated with the attached proposal as well as the man page and junit API document. This document should address the open issues. Thanks, John --Boundary_(ID_Vg/M/q3Wdmwd+4uZ+zg9XQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ASCII; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=proposal.txt Summary ======= JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. JUnit features include: * Assertions for testing expected results * Test fixtures for sharing common test data * Test runners for running tests The JUnit source files will be available in the package for debuging and reference purposes. Junit-4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. The JUnit package will contain commonly used versions of JUnit. The file name will be used to manage multiple versions, for example: ------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/share/lib/java/junit.jar link to most recent version /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2.jar ------------------------------------------------------------------- This project requests a minor release binding. The JUnit man page, and api document are included in the case materials directory. Dependencies ============ None Interfaces ========== Exported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- SUNWjunit Uncommitted JUnit Package JUnit API Uncommitted JUnit Classes /usr/share/lib/java/src/junit Project Private JUnit source directory /usr/share/lib/java/javadoc/junit Project Private JUnit javadoc directory /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private JUnit doc directory Imported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- /usr/share/lib/java Uncommitted Java Directory Reference Documents =================== [1] http://junit.org/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ RFE ID# 6713703 --Boundary_(ID_Vg/M/q3Wdmwd+4uZ+zg9XQ)-- From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Nov 11 09:59:55 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mABHxsaP027250 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id mABHxqPS044025 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KA600409KNSE700@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KA60009CKNSS470@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mABHxp4j029966 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KA600J01H80CS00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:59:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from 129.145.154.66 ([129.145.154.66]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KA600G9GKNM3IF0@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:59:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:59:46 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/633 - junit In-reply-to: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: LSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: James.Walker@sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <1226426386.49887.209.camel@sr1-umpk-16> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.301 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_U60Y4eby8XL1uOgoLDXzzg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> Status: RO Content-Length: 2514 --Boundary_(ID_U60Y4eby8XL1uOgoLDXzzg) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I needed to correct Jim's email address. Please reply to this message if there are any issues. Thanks, John On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:46, John Fischer wrote: > All, > > The case directory has been updated with the attached > proposal as well as the man page and junit API document. > This document should address the open issues. > > Thanks, > > John > --Boundary_(ID_U60Y4eby8XL1uOgoLDXzzg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ASCII; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=proposal.txt Summary ======= JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. JUnit features include: * Assertions for testing expected results * Test fixtures for sharing common test data * Test runners for running tests The JUnit source files will be available in the package for debuging and reference purposes. Junit-4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. The JUnit package will contain commonly used versions of JUnit. The file name will be used to manage multiple versions, for example: ------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/share/lib/java/junit.jar link to most recent version /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2.jar ------------------------------------------------------------------- This project requests a minor release binding. The JUnit man page, and api document are included in the case materials directory. Dependencies ============ None Interfaces ========== Exported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- SUNWjunit Uncommitted JUnit Package JUnit API Uncommitted JUnit Classes /usr/share/lib/java/src/junit Project Private JUnit source directory /usr/share/lib/java/javadoc/junit Project Private JUnit javadoc directory /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private JUnit doc directory Imported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- /usr/share/lib/java Uncommitted Java Directory Reference Documents =================== [1] http://junit.org/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ RFE ID# 6713703 --Boundary_(ID_U60Y4eby8XL1uOgoLDXzzg)-- From James.Walker@sun.com Thu Nov 13 09:50:11 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mADHoAqv012542 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id mADHntIc012670 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:50:09 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KAA00D7A9JJ3T00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:50:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KAA007CN9JIHE60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:50:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mADHo5PQ016690 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KAA00A017RM2L00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from James.Walker@Sun.COM) for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:50:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.20.25.153] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KAA00ELF9J69V80@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:49:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:06:35 -0700 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/633 - junit In-reply-to: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> Sender: James.Walker@sun.com To: LSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Reply-to: James.Walker@sun.com Message-id: <491C6CAB.6090404@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080728) Status: RO Content-Length: 433 John Fischer wrote: > All, > > The case directory has been updated with the attached > proposal as well as the man page and junit API document. > This document should address the open issues. > Does the current proposal resolve all the issues? I would like to get this case approved. Thanks, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From tom.childers@sun.com Tue Nov 18 10:14:10 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAIIEAso003841 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id mAIIDxqW021956 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:14:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KAJ00F05JZLRJ00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:14:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KAJ003UIJZJM590@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:14:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mAIIE7fB028920 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KAJ00F01IG4RM00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from tom.childers@sun.com) for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from labnis-qfe4.SFBay.Sun.COM ([75.101.10.233]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KAJ001NEJZ8AK10@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:13:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:13:57 -0800 From: Tom Childers Subject: Re: LSARC/2008/633 - junit In-reply-to: <491C6CAB.6090404@sun.com> Sender: Thomas.Childers@sun.com To: James.Walker@sun.com Cc: LSARC-ext@sun.com, Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Message-id: <20F1B407-A7E9-47FF-8B3F-D91D8408675E@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> <491C6CAB.6090404@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1110 James, We approved this case in open LSARC today. Thanks, Jim and John for getting the file system issue handled. There is a precedent established by this case: Java jar files will be placed in /usr/sharelib/java, with versioning in the file names, and a link to the most current/active jar file, i.e.: /usr/share/lib/java/junit.jar link to most recent version /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2.jar I will propagate this info to the findbugs case, 2008/642. -tdc Tom Childers Sr. Staff Engineer Sun Microsystems, Inc. SOA/Business Integration Engineering On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Jim Walker wrote: > John Fischer wrote: >> All, >> The case directory has been updated with the attached >> proposal as well as the man page and junit API document. >> This document should address the open issues. > > Does the current proposal resolve all the issues? > > I would like to get this case approved. > > Thanks, > Jim > > -- > Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker > Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE > x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021 From Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com Mon Dec 22 04:59:58 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBMCxvPD020286 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id mBMCxuGi007005; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:57 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KCA00H0543VA900@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.19.6]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KCA00N4O43U4370@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-apac-05.sun.com (fe-apac-05.sun.com [192.18.19.176] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mBMCxs0A018476; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0KCA00F013UIKK00@mail-apac.sun.com> (original mail from Mengwei.Jiao@Sun.COM); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:59:54 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.10.60] ([123.117.43.160]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0KCA003S643K4PW5@mail-apac.sun.com>; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:59:53 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:59:39 +0800 From: mengwei jiao Subject: Request Update for LSARC/2008/633 - junit In-reply-to: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> Sender: Mengwei.Jiao@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: LSARC-ext@sun.com, james.wlaker@sun.com Message-id: <494F8F3B.6070209@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RDSHdDAiCPLloZZ9JBLUrA)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <1226425567.49887.194.camel@sr1-umpk-16> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) Status: RO Content-Length: 2735 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_RDSHdDAiCPLloZZ9JBLUrA) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John, In the C-team review for junit, I am suggested that the junit source jar file should not be installed. Also, I find there is an inconsistency in the final material for junit. Two locations are mentioned for junit javadoc: /usr/share/lib/java/javadoc/junit /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc (correct) Actually the second one is the correct one. I have attached the updated proposal.txt with two changes: 1. remove the junit source directory. 2. Update the javadoc directory to /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc Could you please review and update the file in the final material? Thank you. Mengwei --Boundary_(ID_RDSHdDAiCPLloZZ9JBLUrA) Content-type: text/plain; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=proposal.txt Summary ======= JUnit is a unit testing framework to write repeatable tests in Java programming language. It is an instance of the xUnit architecture. JUnit features include: * Assertions for testing expected results * Test fixtures for sharing common test data * Test runners for running tests The JUnit source files will be available in the package for debuging and reference purposes. Junit-4.5 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWjunit. The JUnit package will contain commonly used versions of JUnit. The file name will be used to manage multiple versions, for example: ------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/share/lib/java/junit.jar link to most recent version /usr/share/lib/java/junit-4.5.jar /usr/share/lib/java/junit-3.8.2.jar ------------------------------------------------------------------- This project requests a minor release binding. The JUnit man page, and api document are included in the case materials directory. Dependencies ============ None Interfaces ========== Exported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- SUNWjunit Uncommitted JUnit Package JUnit API Uncommitted JUnit Classes /usr/share/doc/junit/javadoc Project Private JUnit javadoc directory /usr/share/doc/junit Project Private JUnit doc directory Imported Interfaces Classification Comment ------------------- -------------- ------------- /usr/share/lib/java Uncommitted Java Directory Reference Documents =================== [1] http://junit.org/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/junit/ RFE ID# 6713703 --Boundary_(ID_RDSHdDAiCPLloZZ9JBLUrA)--