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I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.

-- mark

Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 Wiseman
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Bharath Kumar
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	28 April, 2009

2. Project Summary
   2.1 Project Description

       This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0 
       into the SFW consolidation.

4. Technical Description:

	   The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
	specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope includes 
	server-side and client-side implementations of the WS-Management 
	specification and its dependent specifications.  


5. Interfaces

   Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
   ================================           ==============     ==============
   SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        wiseman user package
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
   /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
   /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
   /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
   /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        wiseman docs
   
   SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        wiseman root package
   /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        wiseman configuration directory
   /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        directory for wiseman schemas
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
               

   Imported Interfaces
   Interface Name	     Classification      Comments
   -----------------------   -----------------   --------------------------
   jdk1.5 or above           committed	         Java Development Kit
   tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver (PSARC/2008/711)
   junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing tool (LSARC/2008/633)
   jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans Activation Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
   saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)

    

6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		SFW
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:35:33AM -0700, Mark Carlson wrote:

>    Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
>    ================================           ==============     ==============
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes

/usr/share/lib/java is where most jar files are put on Solaris.

>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage

wiseman(3) seems to be incorrect.  Section 3 is for library functions (see
Intro(3)), but wiseman(3) doesn't document any library interfaces.  The
synopsis isn't a synopsis.

I think what you want is wise(1) and mViewer(1) documenting the commands
themselves, and possibly a wiseman(5) which talks a bit about the
WS-Management subsystem, though if people aren't going to expect to be able
to type "man wiseman", I probably would skip that, and simply refer to the
web page in the other man pages.

Danek

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Bharath,

Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?

The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
mitigating this requirement?

Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
Eclipse?

This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?

Thanks,

John


Mark Carlson wrote:
> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
> 
> -- mark
> 
> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
> 1. Introduction
>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 	 Wiseman
>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 	 Author:  Bharath Kumar
>     1.3  Date of This Document:
> 	28 April, 2009
> 
> 2. Project Summary
>    2.1 Project Description
> 
>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0 
>        into the SFW consolidation.
> 
> 4. Technical Description:
> 
> 	   The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
> 	specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope includes 
> 	server-side and client-side implementations of the WS-Management 
> 	specification and its dependent specifications.  
> 
> 
> 5. Interfaces
> 
>    Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
>    ================================           ==============     ==============
>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        wiseman user package
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        wiseman docs
>    
>    SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        wiseman root package
>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        wiseman configuration directory
>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        directory for wiseman schemas
>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
>                
> 
>    Imported Interfaces
>    Interface Name	     Classification      Comments
>    -----------------------   -----------------   --------------------------
>    jdk1.5 or above           committed	         Java Development Kit
>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver (PSARC/2008/711)
>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing tool (LSARC/2008/633)
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>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
> 
>     
> 
> 6. Resources and Schedule
>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>    	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
> 		SFW
>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
> 
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Hi Danek,

Danek Duvall wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:35:33AM -0700, Mark Carlson wrote:
>
>   
>>    Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
>>    ================================           ==============     ==============
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
>>     
>
> /usr/share/lib/java is where most jar files are put on Solaris.
>
>   
>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
>>     
>
> wiseman(3) seems to be incorrect.  Section 3 is for library functions (see
> Intro(3)), but wiseman(3) doesn't document any library interfaces.  The
> synopsis isn't a synopsis.
>
> I think what you want is wise(1) and mViewer(1) documenting the commands
> themselves, and possibly a wiseman(5) which talks a bit about the
> WS-Management subsystem, though if people aren't going to expect to be able
> to type "man wiseman", I probably would skip that, and simply refer to the
> web page in the other man pages.
>
>   

Well, I slotted it as a library since we are providing  jar files which 
the developers can use to develop server and client applications to 
manage resources. Also the scripts, wise and mviewer would have detailed 
documentation at /usr/share/docs/wiseman. Hence mentioned it as such in 
the manpage. Would that be okay? Have updated the draft with changes on 
the jar path as you suggested (/usr/share/lib/java).
Please find attached updated docs.

Thanks
Bharath

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Hi Danek,<br>
<br>
Danek Duvall wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:20090428172038.GK2096@mumak.SFBay.Sun.COM"
 type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:35:33AM -0700, Mark Carlson wrote:

  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">   Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
   ================================           ==============     ==============
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
/usr/share/lib/java is where most jar files are put on Solaris.

  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">   /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
   /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
   /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
wiseman(3) seems to be incorrect.  Section 3 is for library functions (see
Intro(3)), but wiseman(3) doesn't document any library interfaces.  The
synopsis isn't a synopsis.

I think what you want is wise(1) and mViewer(1) documenting the commands
themselves, and possibly a wiseman(5) which talks a bit about the
WS-Management subsystem, though if people aren't going to expect to be able
to type "man wiseman", I probably would skip that, and simply refer to the
web page in the other man pages.

  </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well, I slotted it as a library since we are providing&nbsp; jar files which
the developers can use to develop server and client applications to
manage resources. Also the scripts, wise and mviewer would have
detailed documentation at /usr/share/docs/wiseman. Hence mentioned it
as such in the manpage. Would that be okay? Have updated the draft with
changes on the jar path as you suggested (/usr/share/lib/java).<br>
Please find attached updated docs.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Bharath<br>
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Introduction to Library Functions                      wiseman(3)

NAME
     wiseman - a Java implementation of WS-Management.

SYNOPSIS
     Add all wiseman jars to the CLASSPATH

DESCRIPTION
     The  wiseman  project  is  an  implementation  of  the   WS-
     Management  specification for the Java SE platform. The pro-
     ject scope includes server-side and client-side  implementa-
     tions  of  the WS-Management specification and its dependent
     specifications.

     For more details about Wiseman, please see
     https://wiseman.dev.java.net web page.

FILES
     By  default,  all   wiseman   jars    are   installed   into
     /usr/share/lib/java directory. wiseman can be launched using
     the wise tool at /usr/bin. mViewer can be launched using the 
     mViewer tool at /usr/bin.


     HTML-based documentation is located in wiseman's doc  direc-
     tory, e.g. /usr/share/doc/wiseman.

ENVIRONMENT
     JAVA_HOME variable must point to the directory where Java is
     installed.
     JAXB, SAAJ and Tomcat libraries should in the classpath

ATTRIBUTES
     See attributes(5) for descriptions of the  following  attri-
     butes:

     _______________________________________
    |   ATTRIBUTE TYPE   |  ATTRIBUTE VALUE|
    |____________________|_________________|
    | Availability       |  SUNWwisemanu   |
    |____________________|_________________|
    | Interface Stability|  Uncommitted    |
    |____________________|_________________|

NOTES
     Source for wiseman is available on http://opensolaris.org.

SunOS 5.10                Last change:                          1


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'\" t
.\"
.\" CDDL HEADER START
.\"
.\" The contents of this file are subject to the terms of the
.\" Common Development and Distribution License (the "License").
.\" You may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
.\"
.\" You can obtain a copy of the license at usr/src/OPENSOLARIS.LICENSE
.\" or http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing.
.\" See the License for the specific language governing permissions
.\" and limitations under the License.
.\"
.\" When distributing Covered Code, include this CDDL HEADER in each
.\" file and include the License file at usr/src/OPENSOLARIS.LICENSE.
.\" If applicable, add the following below this CDDL HEADER, with the
.\" fields enclosed by brackets "[]" replaced with your own identifying
.\" information: Portions Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
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.\" CDDL HEADER END
.\"
.\" Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All rights reserved.
.\" Use is subject to license terms.
.\"
.\" ident	"@(#)wiseman.3	1.1	09/04/09 SMI"
.\"
.TH "wiseman" "3" "" "" ""
.SH NAME
wiseman - a Java implementation of WS-Management.
.SH SYNOPSIS
Add all wiseman jars to the CLASSPATH

.SH DESCRIPTION
The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope includes server-side and client-side implementations of the WS-Management specification and its dependent specifications.
.PP
For more details about Wiseman, please see
.br
.B https://wiseman.dev.java.net web page.

.SH FILES
By default, all wiseman jars  are installed into /usr/share/lib/java directory.
wiseman can be launched using the wise tool at /usr/bin.
mViewer can be launched using the mViewer tool at /usr/bin.

HTML-based documentation is located in wiseman's doc directory, e.g. /usr/share/doc/wiseman.

.SH ENVIRONMENT
JAVA_HOME variable must point to the directory where Java is installed.
JAXB, SAAJ and Tomcat libraries should be in the classpath

.RE
.SH ATTRIBUTES
See
.BR attributes (5)
for descriptions of the following attributes:
.sp
.TS
box;
cbp-1 | cbp-1
l | l .
ATTRIBUTE TYPE	ATTRIBUTE VALUE
=
Availability	SUNWwisemanu
=
Interface Stability	Uncommitted
.TE
.PP
.SH NOTES
Source for wiseman is available on http://opensolaris.org.


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1. Introduction
   1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
        Wiseman

   1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
        Author: Bharath Kumar

   1.3. Date of This Document:
        27 April 2009

2. Project Summary
   2.1 Project Description

       This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0 
       into the SFW consolidation.

4. Technical Description:

	   The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
	specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope includes 
	server-side and client-side implementations of the WS-Management 
	specification and its dependent specifications.  


5. Interfaces

   Exported interface                         Classification     Interface type
   ================================           ==============     ==============
   SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        wiseman user package
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman-client.jar           Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman client classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman-core.jar             Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman core classes
   /usr/lib/java/wiseman-tools.jar            Uncommitted        Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
   /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        wiseman viewer tool
   /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        wiseman tool
   /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
   /usr/share/man/man1/wise.1                 Uncommitted        Manpage for wisemanCmdline
   /usr/share/man/man1/mViewer.1              Uncommitted        Manpage for metadata viewer
   /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        wiseman docs
   
   SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        wiseman root package
   /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        wiseman configuration directory
   /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        directory for wiseman schemas
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
   /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML Schema languagage
               

   Imported Interfaces
   Interface Name	     Classification      Comments
   -----------------------   -----------------   --------------------------
   jdk1.5 or above           committed	         Java Development Kit
   tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver (PSARC/2008/711)
   junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing tool (LSARC/2008/633)
   jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans Activation Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
   saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)

    

6. Resources and Schedule:
   6.4. Product Approval Committee requested information:
   	6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
	       SFW
   6.5. ARC review type: Automatic

   6.6. ARC Exposure: open

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:28:52PM +0530, Bharath Kumar wrote:

> Well, I slotted it as a library since we are providing  jar files which
> the developers can use to develop server and client applications to
> manage resources.

I don't think we have an expectation to find Java developer documentation
in man pages.  I would expect HTMLized javadoc available on the net, and
possibly on the machine as well (as presumably you have in
/usr/share/docs/wiseman).

I would, however, expect a man page for every command delivered into a
directory that would be on someone's PATH, even if it were fairly simple
and didn't do much more than give a quick description of what the command
did, and how to find more information.

FWIW, there's no need to post updated documentation every time you respond
to a comment on the list, particularly for something as simple as a
one-word change.  There are other folks who have been doing this a great
deal in other cases, and we're just ending up with dozens of copies of the
entire set of case materials in the mail log to no real purpose.  There's
the original set, and there should be the final set.  If the materials have
changed significantly since the case started, but the case hasn't converged
yet, there may be a call for updated materials to be posted, but that
should generally be done a) on request, and b) directly into the case
directory, rather than to the list, which should simply receive a notice
that this has been done.

Thanks,
Danek

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Hi John,

 Please see replies inline.

John Fischer wrote:
> Bharath,
>
> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>

Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned in 
the imported interfaces

> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
> mitigating this requirement?
>

We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
Please let know if you meant something else.

> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
> Eclipse?
>

The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer any 
IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community offers, 
since this is a familiarity case.

> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>
Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client and 
server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those applications 
would take care of starting or stopping their services.

Thanks
Bharath
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
> Mark Carlson wrote:
>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests 
>> minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>
>> -- mark
>>
>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>> 1. Introduction
>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>      Wiseman
>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>     28 April, 2009
>>
>> 2. Project Summary
>>    2.1 Project Description
>>
>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        into 
>> the SFW consolidation.
>>
>> 4. Technical Description:
>>
>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
>>     specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope 
>> includes     server-side and client-side implementations of the 
>> WS-Management     specification and its dependent specifications. 
>>
>> 5. Interfaces
>>
>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>> Interface type
>>    ================================           ==============     
>> ==============
>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>> wiseman user package
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar 
>> exporting wiseman client classes
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar 
>> exporting wiseman core classes
>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar 
>> exporting wiseman tool classes
>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>> wiseman viewer tool
>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>> wiseman tool
>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>> wiseman docs
>>       SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        
>> wiseman root package
>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>> wiseman configuration directory
>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML 
>> Schema languagage
>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML 
>> Schema languagage
>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>> Schema languagage
>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>> Schema languagage
>>               
>>    Imported Interfaces
>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>> --------------------------
>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java Development Kit
>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans Activation 
>> Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>
>>    
>> 6. Resources and Schedule
>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>         SFW
>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org

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Bharath,

Thanks for the answers.  The licensing question is still not quite
answered.  The developer documents found at:

https://wiseman.dev.java.net/files/documents/3436/70623/file_70623.dat/Wiseman%20Server%20Developer%27s%20Guide.pdf

States:

	Installing Wiseman

	Wiseman is released under the Apache License, Version 2.0. You
	must agree to the licenses as part of the installation.

How is the project team fulfilling this requirement?  Is it an implied
agreement?  Is it an explicit agreement?  For exmple, the first time
StarOffice is used the users sees a license and must agree to it.  Other
projects simply have the license included in the packaging because the
license agreement allows for that method.

Thanks,

John


Bharath Kumar wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Please see replies inline.
> 
> John Fischer wrote:
>> Bharath,
>>
>> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>>
> 
> Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
> https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned in 
> the imported interfaces
> 
>> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
>> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
>> mitigating this requirement?
>>
> 
> We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
> Please let know if you meant something else.
> 
>> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
>> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
>> Eclipse?
>>
> 
> The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer any 
> IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community offers, 
> since this is a familiarity case.
> 
>> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>>
> Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client and 
> server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those applications 
> would take care of starting or stopping their services.
> 
> Thanks
> Bharath
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Mark Carlson wrote:
>>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests 
>>> minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>>
>>> -- mark
>>>
>>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>>> 1. Introduction
>>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>>      Wiseman
>>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>>     28 April, 2009
>>>
>>> 2. Project Summary
>>>    2.1 Project Description
>>>
>>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        into 
>>> the SFW consolidation.
>>>
>>> 4. Technical Description:
>>>
>>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
>>>     specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope 
>>> includes     server-side and client-side implementations of the 
>>> WS-Management     specification and its dependent specifications.
>>> 5. Interfaces
>>>
>>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>>> Interface type
>>>    ================================           ==============     
>>> ==============
>>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman user package
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman client classes
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman core classes
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman tool classes
>>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman viewer tool
>>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman tool
>>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
>>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman docs
>>>       SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman root package
>>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman configuration directory
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>                  Imported Interfaces
>>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>>> --------------------------
>>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java Development Kit
>>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans Activation 
>>> Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>>
>>>    6. Resources and Schedule
>>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>>         SFW
>>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org

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Bharath,

Actually, I just went back and looked at the wiseman website:

	https://wiseman.dev.java.net/index.html

and noticed the following:

	The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management
	specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope
	includes server-side and client-side implementations of the
	WS-Management specification and its dependent specifications.

	...

	This project is part of the Glassfish Metro community hosted at
	java.net. The project requires Java SE 5+ or above and JAX-WS
	2.1.1. The required JAX-WS open source project is also part of
	the Glassfish Metro community.

Hence my question about wiseman requiring JAX-WS.  So one part of the
website states that only JAXB and SAAJ are required (your link).  The
front page of the website states that JAX-WS is also required.  So
which is it?  This is part of the problem with relying on external
websites for Architectural documentation.

Thanks,

John

Bharath Kumar wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Please see replies inline.
> 
> John Fischer wrote:
>> Bharath,
>>
>> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>>
> 
> Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
> https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned in 
> the imported interfaces
> 
>> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
>> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
>> mitigating this requirement?
>>
> 
> We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
> Please let know if you meant something else.
> 
>> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
>> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
>> Eclipse?
>>
> 
> The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer any 
> IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community offers, 
> since this is a familiarity case.
> 
>> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>>
> Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client and 
> server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those applications 
> would take care of starting or stopping their services.
> 
> Thanks
> Bharath
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Mark Carlson wrote:
>>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests 
>>> minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>>
>>> -- mark
>>>
>>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>>> 1. Introduction
>>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>>      Wiseman
>>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>>     28 April, 2009
>>>
>>> 2. Project Summary
>>>    2.1 Project Description
>>>
>>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        into 
>>> the SFW consolidation.
>>>
>>> 4. Technical Description:
>>>
>>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the WS-Management 
>>>     specification for the Java SE platform. The project scope 
>>> includes     server-side and client-side implementations of the 
>>> WS-Management     specification and its dependent specifications.
>>> 5. Interfaces
>>>
>>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>>> Interface type
>>>    ================================           ==============     
>>> ==============
>>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman user package
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman client classes
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman core classes
>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        Jar 
>>> exporting wiseman tool classes
>>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman viewer tool
>>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman tool
>>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        Manpage
>>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman docs
>>>       SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman root package
>>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>>> wiseman configuration directory
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        XML 
>>> Schema languagage
>>>                  Imported Interfaces
>>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>>> --------------------------
>>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java Development Kit
>>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans Activation 
>>> Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>>
>>>    6. Resources and Schedule
>>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>>         SFW
>>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org

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Hi John,
>
>
> How is the project team fulfilling this requirement?  Is it an implied
> agreement?  Is it an explicit agreement?  For exmple, the first time
> StarOffice is used the users sees a license and must agree to it.  Other
> projects simply have the license included in the packaging because the
> license agreement allows for that method.
>

Yes, we are having the license included as part of the packaging 
currently and a positive user agreement is not being obtained 
explicitly. Checking with the attorney if that would be fine.

Regards
Bharath

> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
> Bharath Kumar wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Please see replies inline.
>>
>> John Fischer wrote:
>>> Bharath,
>>>
>>> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>>>
>>
>> Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
>> https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned 
>> in the imported interfaces
>>
>>> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
>>> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
>>> mitigating this requirement?
>>>
>>
>> We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
>> Please let know if you meant something else.
>>
>>> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
>>> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
>>> Eclipse?
>>>
>>
>> The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer 
>> any IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community 
>> offers, since this is a familiarity case.
>>
>>> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>>>
>> Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client 
>> and server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those 
>> applications would take care of starting or stopping their services.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bharath
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Carlson wrote:
>>>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests 
>>>> minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>>>
>>>> -- mark
>>>>
>>>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>>>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>>>> 1. Introduction
>>>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>>>      Wiseman
>>>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>>>     28 April, 2009
>>>>
>>>> 2. Project Summary
>>>>    2.1 Project Description
>>>>
>>>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        
>>>> into the SFW consolidation.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Technical Description:
>>>>
>>>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the 
>>>> WS-Management     specification for the Java SE platform. The 
>>>> project scope includes     server-side and client-side 
>>>> implementations of the WS-Management     specification and its 
>>>> dependent specifications.
>>>> 5. Interfaces
>>>>
>>>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>>>> Interface type
>>>>    ================================           ==============     
>>>> ==============
>>>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman user package
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
>>>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman viewer tool
>>>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman tool
>>>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        
>>>> Manpage
>>>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman docs
>>>>       SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman root package
>>>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman configuration directory
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>>>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>                  Imported Interfaces
>>>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>>>> --------------------------
>>>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java Development 
>>>> Kit
>>>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>>>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>>>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans 
>>>> Activation Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>>>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>>>
>>>>    6. Resources and Schedule
>>>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>>>         SFW
>>>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org


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Hi John,

> Hence my question about wiseman requiring JAX-WS.  So one part of the
> website states that only JAXB and SAAJ are required (your link).  The
> front page of the website states that JAX-WS is also required.  So
> which is it?  This is part of the problem with relying on external
> websites for Architectural documentation.
>

Yes, as you mention it gets problematic with 2 different dependency 
listing. But JAXB and SAAJ api's are sufficient enough for getting 
Wiseman functional. I have built and run the tests that come along with 
it and find no issues

Regards
Bharath
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> Bharath Kumar wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Please see replies inline.
>>
>> John Fischer wrote:
>>> Bharath,
>>>
>>> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>>>
>>
>> Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
>> https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned 
>> in the imported interfaces
>>
>>> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
>>> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
>>> mitigating this requirement?
>>>
>>
>> We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
>> Please let know if you meant something else.
>>
>>> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
>>> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
>>> Eclipse?
>>>
>>
>> The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer 
>> any IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community 
>> offers, since this is a familiarity case.
>>
>>> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>>>
>> Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client 
>> and server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those 
>> applications would take care of starting or stopping their services.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bharath
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Carlson wrote:
>>>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It requests 
>>>> minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>>>
>>>> -- mark
>>>>
>>>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>>>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>>>> 1. Introduction
>>>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>>>      Wiseman
>>>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>>>     28 April, 2009
>>>>
>>>> 2. Project Summary
>>>>    2.1 Project Description
>>>>
>>>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        
>>>> into the SFW consolidation.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Technical Description:
>>>>
>>>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the 
>>>> WS-Management     specification for the Java SE platform. The 
>>>> project scope includes     server-side and client-side 
>>>> implementations of the WS-Management     specification and its 
>>>> dependent specifications.
>>>> 5. Interfaces
>>>>
>>>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>>>> Interface type
>>>>    ================================           ==============     
>>>> ==============
>>>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman user package
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        
>>>> Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
>>>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman viewer tool
>>>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman tool
>>>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        
>>>> Manpage
>>>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman docs
>>>>       SUNWwisemanr                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman root package
>>>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>>>> wiseman configuration directory
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>>>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>                  Imported Interfaces
>>>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>>>> --------------------------
>>>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java Development 
>>>> Kit
>>>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>>>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>>>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans 
>>>> Activation Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>>>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>>>
>>>>    6. Resources and Schedule
>>>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>>>         SFW
>>>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org


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Hi John,

>>
>>
>> How is the project team fulfilling this requirement?  Is it an implied
>> agreement?  Is it an explicit agreement?  For exmple, the first time
>> StarOffice is used the users sees a license and must agree to it.  Other
>> projects simply have the license included in the packaging because the
>> license agreement allows for that method.
>>
>
> Yes, we are having the license included as part of the packaging 
> currently and a positive user agreement is not being obtained 
> explicitly. Checking with the attorney if that would be fine.
>
We have got confirmation from the attorney that an implicit agreement is 
fine. Quoting the same below:

"The distribution here should not be treated differently than any other 
Apache licensed package you have ported.  I would just clarify your 
summary below in that based on the fact that (i) the terms of the 
license under which you obtained the Wiseman sources did not include an 
obligation to require users to "click and accept" the Apache 2.0 prior 
to use and installation by the users, and (ii) your distribution 
complies with the terms of the Apache 2.0 license, you will not need to 
require users to "click and accept" the Apache 2.0 license prior to 
installation of the Wiseman Sun  package. "

Thanks
Bharath
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Bharath Kumar wrote:
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Please see replies inline.
>>>
>>> John Fischer wrote:
>>>> Bharath,
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't Wiseman import JAX-WS?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wiseman uses libraries that are exported from JAXB and SAAJ. ( 
>>> https://wiseman.dev.java.net/quick_start.html ) and it is mentioned 
>>> in the imported interfaces
>>>
>>>> The developer documents state that the user must agree to the Apache
>>>> License agreement prior to using the project.  How is the project
>>>> mitigating this requirement?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We have an approved OSR (#10652) which mentions the Apache license. 
>>> Please let know if you meant something else.
>>>
>>>> Is this also a developer release or only an end user release?
>>>> If a developer release will it integrate into NetBeans and
>>>> Eclipse?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The developers and end users both could use this. No plans to offer 
>>> any IDE integrations over and above what the upstream community 
>>> offers, since this is a familiarity case.
>>>
>>>> This is a client/server technology.  How is the server started?
>>>>
>>> Wiseman only provides API's using which developers can write client 
>>> and server applications that will deploy on webservers.  Those 
>>> applications would take care of starting or stopping their services.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Bharath
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Carlson wrote:
>>>>> I am sponsoring this familarity case for Bharath Kumar. It 
>>>>> requests minor binding and times out 05/05/2009.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- mark
>>>>>
>>>>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
>>>>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
>>>>> 1. Introduction
>>>>>     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>>>>      Wiseman
>>>>>     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>>>>>      Author:  Bharath Kumar
>>>>>     1.3  Date of This Document:
>>>>>     28 April, 2009
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Project Summary
>>>>>    2.1 Project Description
>>>>>
>>>>>        This project introduces the package of Wiseman 1.0        
>>>>> into the SFW consolidation.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Technical Description:
>>>>>
>>>>>        The wiseman project is an implementation of the 
>>>>> WS-Management     specification for the Java SE platform. The 
>>>>> project scope includes     server-side and client-side 
>>>>> implementations of the WS-Management     specification and its 
>>>>> dependent specifications.
>>>>> 5. Interfaces
>>>>>
>>>>>    Exported interface                         Classification     
>>>>> Interface type
>>>>>    ================================           ==============     
>>>>> ==============
>>>>>    SUNWwisemanu                               Uncommitted        
>>>>> wiseman user package
>>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-client.jar   Uncommitted        
>>>>> Jar exporting wiseman client classes
>>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-core.jar     Uncommitted        
>>>>> Jar exporting wiseman core classes
>>>>>    /usr/lib/java/wiseman/wiseman-tools.jar    Uncommitted        
>>>>> Jar exporting wiseman tool classes
>>>>>    /usr/bin/mViewer                           Uncommitted        
>>>>> wiseman viewer tool
>>>>>    /usr/bin/wise                              Uncommitted        
>>>>> wiseman tool
>>>>>    /usr/share/man/man3/wiseman.3              Uncommitted        
>>>>> Manpage
>>>>>    /usr/share/doc/wiseman                     Uncommitted        
>>>>> wiseman docs
>>>>>       SUNWwisemanr                               
>>>>> Uncommitted        wiseman root package
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman                               Uncommitted        
>>>>> wiseman configuration directory
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas                       Uncommitted        
>>>>> directory for wiseman schemas
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/addressing.xsd        Uncommitted        
>>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/enumeration.xsd       Uncommitted        
>>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/eventing.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>>    /etc/wiseman/schemas/transfer.xsd          Uncommitted        
>>>>> XML Schema languagage
>>>>>                  Imported Interfaces
>>>>>    Interface Name         Classification      Comments
>>>>>    -----------------------   -----------------   
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>    jdk1.5 or above           committed             Java 
>>>>> Development Kit
>>>>>    tomcat6                   committed           tomcat apserver 
>>>>> (PSARC/2008/711)
>>>>>    junit4.5                  committed           java unit testing 
>>>>> tool (LSARC/2008/633)
>>>>>    jaxb2.1.1 jars            Uncommitted         JavaBeans 
>>>>> Activation Framework (LSARC/2009/237)
>>>>>    saaj1.3.2 jars            Uncommitted         SOAP with 
>>>>> Attachments API for JavaTM (LSARC/2009/236)
>>>>>
>>>>>    6. Resources and Schedule
>>>>>     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>>>>>        6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
>>>>>         SFW
>>>>>     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>>>>>     6.6. ARC Exposure: open
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> opensolaris-arc mailing list
>>>>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org
>
>

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This case was approved at LSARC today.

-- mark

