From sureshc@sac.sfbay.sun.com Wed Mar 17 11:04:51 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HI4pOT015368 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HI4o2W003828; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF0022RU827A00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF001VEU80K500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HI4mG5016107; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HI4ldr015363; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sureshc@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id o2HI4lF0015359; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] To: LSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 88375 Requesting Minor binding for this python library to be delivered to Solaris Next. Timing out on 03/25/2010 Suresh Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Locale Services Library 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Suresh Chandrasekharan 1.3 Date of This Document: 17 March, 2010 4. Technical Description Locale services library is a library for locale related information written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice of Python as an implementation language for this library is influenced by * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer and auto installer are being re-written using python. * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut development time compared with writing these interfaces in C * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. This library will be partly based on an opensource python package, which's BSD licensed, named Babel (http://babel.edgewall.org/). Some of APIs from Babel are used as the building block of a number of locale services APIs. Others APIs are coded from scratch. Localization support APIs available with Python standard library include support for basic localization. However, it doesn't provide access to locale data, like the localized names of countries, languages, or time-zones, which are needed in installer apps. This is why we use Babel, which gives an interface for Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR - http://cldr.unicode.org/) For the CLDR data sourse for the libraries, we will be using the CLDR 1.7.1 plus Solaris specific patches (used for creating the locales shared objects in Solaris Next) with Babel stable source of 0.9.4. Babel source distribution contains the scripts for reading CLDR sources and preparing the .dat files for use with the Babel library. In addition to CLDR interface, Babel also provides a command-line interface for working with message catalogs, similar to the various GNU gettext tools commonly available on Linux/Unix systems. (Though we will not use this in the library) Locale service library is devided into 2 distict classes. * G11NSvcLocalePopulate - class which can extract the list of valid locales in a system or media * G11NSvcLocaleOperations - class which operates on the list of locales created by G11NSvcLocalePopulate. The reason for 2 distinct classes is we can have the locales list either generated by G11NSvcLocalePopulate class or an external entity such as the ips (with language facets support) which needs to be passed to G11NSvcLocaleOperations. Certain APIs in G11NSvcLocaleOperations need a list of valid locales to check if the resultant locale returned by an API is found within the valid locale list. Following are the APIs present in the initial version of the library. G11NSvcLocalePopulate class - g11nsvc_get_valid_locales(self) Returns the list of valid locales available in the locale source Eg. >>> import g11nsvc >>> loc_pop = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocalePopulate() >>> print loc_pop.g11nsvc_get_valid_locales() ['POSIX', 'C', 'zh_HK.UTF-8', 'en_IE.UTF-8', 'zh_CN.GB18030@radical', 'ar_SY.UTF-8', 'da_DK', 'ca', 'zh.UTF-8',... G11NSvcLocaleOperations class - g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all legacy (non UTF-8) locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all legacy locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> loc_ops = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocaleOperations(locale_list) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales('en') ['en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_CA', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_CA', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all UTF-8 locales installed in the system with lang_code and if that's provided. With a None lang_code all UTF_8 locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc(self, desc_locale=None) Get the descriptions of all utf8 system locales in desc_locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc('en_US.UTF-8') [u'Chinese (Hong Kong SAR China)', u'English (Ireland)', u'Arabic (Syria)', u'Chinese', u'English (Australia)', u'Malayalam (India)', u'Spanish (Mexico)', u'German (Germany) [euro]', u'Estonian (Estonia)',... - g11nsvc_get_codeset Parses localename and returns the codeset name. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_codeset('ja_JP.UTF-8') UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale Gets the system default locale in /etc/default/init file. Returns C locale if none set. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_lang_code Parses localename and returns the language code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_code('ja_JP.UTF-8') ja - g11nsvc_get_lang_desc Get the language description from localename. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") 英語 - g11nsvc_get_locale_desc Get the locale description from locale name. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese (Japan) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") 英語 (アメリカ合衆国) - g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone Returns a localename from your timezone and languge information provided. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone("America/Indiana/Tell_City", "en") en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_region_code Parses localename and returns the region code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_code('ko_KR.UTF-8') KR - g11nsvc_get_region_desc Get the region description from localename. Return description in desc_locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japan >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") アメリカ合衆国 - g11nsvc_get_variation Parses localename and returns variation. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_variation("zh_TW.EUC@pinyin") pinyin - g11nsvc_getlocale Gets the currently set locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_getlocale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_setlocale Sets the locale to localename. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_setlocale("ja_JP.UTF-8") ja_JP.UTF-8 Imported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 /usr/bin/python2.6 Uncommitted Python 2.6.z interpreter commands Uncommitted Python module string Uncommitted Python module os Uncommitted Python module stat Uncommitted Python module fileinput Uncommitted Python module locale Uncommitted Python module babel Uncommitted Babel package name Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py Uncommitted Python source /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/g11nsvc.py Uncommitted Python source G11NSvcLocalePopulate Uncommitted locale populator 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ARC Exposure: open From danek.duvall@sun.com Wed Mar 17 11:32:55 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HIWtkr016029 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HIWtSM002096 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00303VIVR800@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF0018MVIUKF30@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smelly.sfbay.sun.com (smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.228.142]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HIWnwp009922; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smelly.sfbay.sun.com (smelly [127.0.0.1]) by smelly.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2HIWneW009777; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by smelly.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) id o2HIWnAK009776; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:32:49 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: LSARC-ext@sun.com, Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-23) Status: RO Content-Length: 3804 Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library > ---------------------------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, then it should probably be pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest that the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 > /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py > Uncommitted Python source Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just want to have g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name > g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat "g11nsvc" in each method name? > /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c > Uncommitted API man page Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. Besides, section 3c is for C library functions. > Imported Interfaces by babel > --------------------------- > babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel > documentation > SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 pkg:/runtime/python-26 > cgi Uncommitted Python module > ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module > [ ... ] These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I don't think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). > Exported Interfaces by babel > --------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > babel Uncommitted Package Name > /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 > Volatile babel man file > /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c > Volatile babel man file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py > Volatile babel init file "vendor-packages", presumably? > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py > Volatile babel source file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py > Volatile babel source file None of these are interfaces. > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat > Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat > Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to access this data. > Exported Interfaces by babel-docs > --------------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html > Volatile Babel API documentation Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an ARC case. Danek From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 12:03:51 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJ3pwm016957 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJ3n12062642 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:03:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00507WYELZ00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF001WIWYEK540@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HJ3ohl029028 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZF00300WKJH200@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZF005QEWY4J320@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:03:38 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , LSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA1278A.3060605@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 4921 Thanks Danek. On a highlevel these are the TODOs I got from this. 1. Change the package name to g1nsvc 2. Remove g11nsvc_ prefix from the APIs 3. Remove man pages and migrate the documentation to the g11nsvc file sources as docstrings Replies inlined. Danek Duvall wrote: > Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > > >> Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library >> ---------------------------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name >> > > I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name > (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, then it > should probably be > > pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 > > to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest that > the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: > > pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 > Noted. Thanks. > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py >> Uncommitted Python source >> > > Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python > package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just > want to have > > g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name > > OK. >> g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) >> > > Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are > methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat "g11nsvc" in > each method name? > > This can be removed. However if user do like from g11nsvc import * then these will be useful. But I understand that that specific usage is not recommended Will Change it >> /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c >> Uncommitted API man page >> > > Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use > docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. Besides, > section 3c is for C library functions. > > Sure. I will migrate the info in the man pages to the source as docstrings >> Imported Interfaces by babel >> --------------------------- >> babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel >> documentation >> SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 >> > > pkg:/runtime/python-26 > Thanks > >> cgi Uncommitted Python module >> ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module >> [ ... ] >> > > These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I don't > think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the > libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). > > Thanks. I thought when in doubt providing more info is a good idea :) >> Exported Interfaces by babel >> --------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> babel Uncommitted Package Name >> /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 >> Volatile babel man file >> /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c >> Volatile babel man file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py >> Volatile babel init file >> > > "vendor-packages", presumably? > yes it should be vendor-packages. > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py >> Volatile babel source file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py >> Volatile babel source file >> > > None of these are interfaces. > OK > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat >> Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat >> Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file >> > > I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to > document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to > access this data. > > OK >> Exported Interfaces by babel-docs >> --------------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html >> Volatile Babel API documentation >> > > Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an ARC > case. > > man pages do refer these files, so I thought I will include them. Since man pages are not needed for python, I will remove these Thanks much for the feedback, Regards, Suresh > Danek > From John.Fischer@Sun.COM Wed Mar 17 12:07:58 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJ7wKt017282 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJ7wY4007492 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00C01X5AU200@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF007CLX59CO70@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HJ7v8E006653 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:07:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZF00400VI4KR00@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.10.8] ([unknown] [76.20.56.122]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZF00H4TX4NF8C0@mail-amer.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:07:35 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA1278A.3060605@sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@Sun.COM To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: LSARC-ext@Sun.COM Reply-to: John.Fischer@Sun.COM Message-id: <4BA12877.7070908@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> <4BA1278A.3060605@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 4467 Suresh, LSARC has recently merged with PSARC. Please be sure to forward this case to the appropriate PSARC email alias. Thanks, John On 03/17/10 12:03 PM, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Thanks Danek. On a highlevel these are the TODOs I got from this. > > 1. Change the package name to g1nsvc > 2. Remove g11nsvc_ prefix from the APIs > 3. Remove man pages and migrate the documentation to the g11nsvc file > sources as docstrings > > Replies inlined. > > Danek Duvall wrote: >> Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: >> >>> Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Interface Classification Comments >>> --------- --------------- --------- >>> locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name >> >> I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name >> (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, then it >> should probably be >> >> pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 >> >> to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest that >> the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: >> >> pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 > Noted. Thanks. >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py >>> Uncommitted Python source >> >> Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python >> package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just >> want to have >> >> g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name >> > OK. >>> g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) >> >> Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are >> methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat "g11nsvc" in >> each method name? >> > This can be removed. However if user do like > from g11nsvc import * > then these will be useful. But I understand that that specific usage is > not recommended > Will Change it >>> /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c >>> Uncommitted API man page >> >> Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use >> docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. Besides, >> section 3c is for C library functions. >> > Sure. I will migrate the info in the man pages to the source as > docstrings >>> Imported Interfaces by babel >>> --------------------------- >>> babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel >>> documentation >>> SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 >> >> pkg:/runtime/python-26 > Thanks > >>> cgi Uncommitted Python module >>> ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module >>> [ ... ] >> >> These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I >> don't >> think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the >> libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). >> > Thanks. I thought when in doubt providing more info is a good idea :) >>> Exported Interfaces by babel >>> --------------------------- >>> >>> Interface Classification Comments >>> --------- --------------- --------- >>> babel Uncommitted Package Name >>> /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 >>> Volatile babel man file >>> /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c >>> Volatile babel man file >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py >>> Volatile babel init file >> >> "vendor-packages", presumably? > yes it should be vendor-packages. >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py >>> Volatile babel source file >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py >>> Volatile babel source file >> >> None of these are interfaces. > OK >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat >>> Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file >>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat >>> Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file >> >> I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to >> document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to >> access this data. >> > OK >>> Exported Interfaces by babel-docs >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> Interface Classification Comments >>> --------- --------------- --------- >>> /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html >>> Volatile Babel API documentation >> >> Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an ARC >> case. >> > man pages do refer these files, so I thought I will include them. > Since man pages are not needed for python, I will remove these > > Thanks much for the feedback, > > Regards, > Suresh >> Danek > From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 12:10:17 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJAG67017331 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJADE3026864 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; 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Timing out on 03/25/2010 Suresh Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Locale Services Library 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Suresh Chandrasekharan 1.3 Date of This Document: 17 March, 2010 4. Technical Description Locale services library is a library for locale related information written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice of Python as an implementation language for this library is influenced by * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer and auto installer are being re-written using python. * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut development time compared with writing these interfaces in C * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. This library will be partly based on an opensource python package, which's BSD licensed, named Babel (http://babel.edgewall.org/). Some of APIs from Babel are used as the building block of a number of locale services APIs. Others APIs are coded from scratch. Localization support APIs available with Python standard library include support for basic localization. However, it doesn't provide access to locale data, like the localized names of countries, languages, or time-zones, which are needed in installer apps. This is why we use Babel, which gives an interface for Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR - http://cldr.unicode.org/) For the CLDR data sourse for the libraries, we will be using the CLDR 1.7.1 plus Solaris specific patches (used for creating the locales shared objects in Solaris Next) with Babel stable source of 0.9.4. Babel source distribution contains the scripts for reading CLDR sources and preparing the .dat files for use with the Babel library. In addition to CLDR interface, Babel also provides a command-line interface for working with message catalogs, similar to the various GNU gettext tools commonly available on Linux/Unix systems. (Though we will not use this in the library) Locale service library is devided into 2 distict classes. * G11NSvcLocalePopulate - class which can extract the list of valid locales in a system or media * G11NSvcLocaleOperations - class which operates on the list of locales created by G11NSvcLocalePopulate. The reason for 2 distinct classes is we can have the locales list either generated by G11NSvcLocalePopulate class or an external entity such as the ips (with language facets support) which needs to be passed to G11NSvcLocaleOperations. Certain APIs in G11NSvcLocaleOperations need a list of valid locales to check if the resultant locale returned by an API is found within the valid locale list. Following are the APIs present in the initial version of the library. G11NSvcLocalePopulate class - g11nsvc_get_valid_locales(self) Returns the list of valid locales available in the locale source Eg. >>> import g11nsvc >>> loc_pop = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocalePopulate() >>> print loc_pop.g11nsvc_get_valid_locales() ['POSIX', 'C', 'zh_HK.UTF-8', 'en_IE.UTF-8', 'zh_CN.GB18030@radical', 'ar_SY.UTF-8', 'da_DK', 'ca', 'zh.UTF-8',... G11NSvcLocaleOperations class - g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all legacy (non UTF-8) locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all legacy locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> loc_ops = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocaleOperations(locale_list) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales('en') ['en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_CA', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_CA', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all UTF-8 locales installed in the system with lang_code and if that's provided. With a None lang_code all UTF_8 locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc(self, desc_locale=None) Get the descriptions of all utf8 system locales in desc_locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc('en_US.UTF-8') [u'Chinese (Hong Kong SAR China)', u'English (Ireland)', u'Arabic (Syria)', u'Chinese', u'English (Australia)', u'Malayalam (India)', u'Spanish (Mexico)', u'German (Germany) [euro]', u'Estonian (Estonia)',... - g11nsvc_get_codeset Parses localename and returns the codeset name. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_codeset('ja_JP.UTF-8') UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale Gets the system default locale in /etc/default/init file. Returns C locale if none set. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_lang_code Parses localename and returns the language code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_code('ja_JP.UTF-8') ja - g11nsvc_get_lang_desc Get the language description from localename. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") 英語 - g11nsvc_get_locale_desc Get the locale description from locale name. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese (Japan) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") 英語 (アメリカ合衆国) - g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone Returns a localename from your timezone and languge information provided. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone("America/Indiana/Tell_City", "en") en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_region_code Parses localename and returns the region code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_code('ko_KR.UTF-8') KR - g11nsvc_get_region_desc Get the region description from localename. Return description in desc_locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japan >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") アメリカ合衆国 - g11nsvc_get_variation Parses localename and returns variation. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_variation("zh_TW.EUC@pinyin") pinyin - g11nsvc_getlocale Gets the currently set locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_getlocale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_setlocale Sets the locale to localename. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_setlocale("ja_JP.UTF-8") ja_JP.UTF-8 Imported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 /usr/bin/python2.6 Uncommitted Python 2.6.z interpreter commands Uncommitted Python module string Uncommitted Python module os Uncommitted Python module stat Uncommitted Python module fileinput Uncommitted Python module locale Uncommitted Python module babel Uncommitted Babel package name Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py Uncommitted Python source /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/g11nsvc.py Uncommitted Python source G11NSvcLocalePopulate Uncommitted locale populator class g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) Uncommitted API to get valid_locales. memeber of G11NSvcLocalePopulate G11NSvcLocaleOperations Uncommitted locale operations class All the below APIs are members of this class g11nsvc_setlocale(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_getlocale(self, localecategory) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale(self) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_lang_code(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_region_code(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_codeset(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_variation(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_lang_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_region_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_locale_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc(self, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone(self, timezone, lang_code, encoding) Uncommitted g11nsvc API /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_codeset.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_lang_code.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_lang_desc.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_locale_desc.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_region_code.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_region_desc.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_valid_locales.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_variation.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_getlocale.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_set_default_system_locale.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_setlocale.3c Uncommitted API man page /usr/share/man/man3c/locale-services-library.3c Uncommitted API man page Imported Interfaces by babel --------------------------- babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel documentation SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 /usr/bin/python2.6 Uncommitted Python 2.6.z interpreter cgi Uncommitted Python module 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Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: G11N 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open --Boundary_(ID_Ho+v9edbALWvv39dVzlocw)-- From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 12:11:36 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJBa3D017348 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJBT8Y003360 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:LSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00603XBB3S00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF001EEXBAKA70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HJBYg1000532 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZF00H00XAEQE00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZF00IDFXB43MD0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for LSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT LSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:11:26 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA12877.7070908@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: LSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA1295E.6020308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> <4BA1278A.3060605@sun.com> <4BA12877.7070908@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 4812 Thanks John. Done. However shouldn't this be automatically taken care of (like including LSARC mailing list inside PSARC ones...) Regards, Suresh John Fischer wrote: > Suresh, > > LSARC has recently merged with PSARC. Please be sure > to forward this case to the appropriate PSARC email > alias. > > Thanks, > > John > > > On 03/17/10 12:03 PM, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: >> Thanks Danek. On a highlevel these are the TODOs I got from this. >> >> 1. Change the package name to g1nsvc >> 2. Remove g11nsvc_ prefix from the APIs >> 3. Remove man pages and migrate the documentation to the g11nsvc file >> sources as docstrings >> >> Replies inlined. >> >> Danek Duvall wrote: >>> Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: >>> >>>> Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library >>>> ---------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Interface Classification Comments >>>> --------- --------------- --------- >>>> locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name >>> >>> I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name >>> (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, >>> then it >>> should probably be >>> >>> pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 >>> >>> to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest >>> that >>> the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: >>> >>> pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 >> Noted. Thanks. >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py >>>> Uncommitted Python source >>> >>> Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python >>> package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just >>> want to have >>> >>> g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name >>> >> OK. >>>> g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) >>> >>> Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are >>> methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat >>> "g11nsvc" in >>> each method name? >>> >> This can be removed. However if user do like >> from g11nsvc import * >> then these will be useful. But I understand that that specific usage is >> not recommended >> Will Change it >>>> /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c >>>> Uncommitted API man page >>> >>> Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use >>> docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. >>> Besides, >>> section 3c is for C library functions. >>> >> Sure. I will migrate the info in the man pages to the source as >> docstrings >>>> Imported Interfaces by babel >>>> --------------------------- >>>> babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel >>>> documentation >>>> SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 >>> >>> pkg:/runtime/python-26 >> Thanks >> >>>> cgi Uncommitted Python module >>>> ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module >>>> [ ... ] >>> >>> These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I >>> don't >>> think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the >>> libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). >>> >> Thanks. I thought when in doubt providing more info is a good idea :) >>>> Exported Interfaces by babel >>>> --------------------------- >>>> >>>> Interface Classification Comments >>>> --------- --------------- --------- >>>> babel Uncommitted Package Name >>>> /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 >>>> Volatile babel man file >>>> /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c >>>> Volatile babel man file >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py >>>> Volatile babel init file >>> >>> "vendor-packages", presumably? >> yes it should be vendor-packages. >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py >>>> Volatile babel source file >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py >>>> Volatile babel source file >>> >>> None of these are interfaces. >> OK >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat >>>> Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat >>>> Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file >>> >>> I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to >>> document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to >>> access this data. >>> >> OK >>>> Exported Interfaces by babel-docs >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Interface Classification Comments >>>> --------- --------------- --------- >>>> /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html >>>> Volatile Babel API documentation >>> >>> Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an >>> ARC >>> case. >>> >> man pages do refer these files, so I thought I will include them. >> Since man pages are not needed for python, I will remove these >> >> Thanks much for the feedback, >> >> Regards, >> Suresh >>> Danek >> From asa.romberger@oracle.com Wed Mar 17 12:17:37 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJHbVf017558 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJHPpd025408 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00607XL8HG00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF001YEXL7KA70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HJHVf2018402 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZF00H00XAEQD00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.145.154.81] ([unknown] [129.145.154.81]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZF00D2DXL1EDC0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:17:25 -0700 From: Asa Romberger Subject: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] Sender: Asa.Romberger@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <4BA12AC5.5040007@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_womlEUakUqch3dRpPHOE2A)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 89669 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_womlEUakUqch3dRpPHOE2A) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Forwarding to PSARC Requesting Minor binding for this python library to be delivered to Solaris Next. Timing out on 03/25/2010 Suresh Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Locale Services Library 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Suresh Chandrasekharan 1.3 Date of This Document: 17 March, 2010 4. Technical Description Locale services library is a library for locale related information written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice of Python as an implementation language for this library is influenced by * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer and auto installer are being re-written using python. * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut development time compared with writing these interfaces in C * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. This library will be partly based on an opensource python package, which's BSD licensed, named Babel (http://babel.edgewall.org/). Some of APIs from Babel are used as the building block of a number of locale services APIs. Others APIs are coded from scratch. Localization support APIs available with Python standard library include support for basic localization. However, it doesn't provide access to locale data, like the localized names of countries, languages, or time-zones, which are needed in installer apps. This is why we use Babel, which gives an interface for Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR - http://cldr.unicode.org/) For the CLDR data sourse for the libraries, we will be using the CLDR 1.7.1 plus Solaris specific patches (used for creating the locales shared objects in Solaris Next) with Babel stable source of 0.9.4. Babel source distribution contains the scripts for reading CLDR sources and preparing the .dat files for use with the Babel library. In addition to CLDR interface, Babel also provides a command-line interface for working with message catalogs, similar to the various GNU gettext tools commonly available on Linux/Unix systems. (Though we will not use this in the library) Locale service library is devided into 2 distict classes. * G11NSvcLocalePopulate - class which can extract the list of valid locales in a system or media * G11NSvcLocaleOperations - class which operates on the list of locales created by G11NSvcLocalePopulate. The reason for 2 distinct classes is we can have the locales list either generated by G11NSvcLocalePopulate class or an external entity such as the ips (with language facets support) which needs to be passed to G11NSvcLocaleOperations. Certain APIs in G11NSvcLocaleOperations need a list of valid locales to check if the resultant locale returned by an API is found within the valid locale list. Following are the APIs present in the initial version of the library. G11NSvcLocalePopulate class - g11nsvc_get_valid_locales(self) Returns the list of valid locales available in the locale source Eg. >>> import g11nsvc >>> loc_pop = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocalePopulate() >>> print loc_pop.g11nsvc_get_valid_locales() ['POSIX', 'C', 'zh_HK.UTF-8', 'en_IE.UTF-8', 'zh_CN.GB18030@radical', 'ar_SY.UTF-8', 'da_DK', 'ca', 'zh.UTF-8',... G11NSvcLocaleOperations class - g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all legacy (non UTF-8) locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all legacy locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> loc_ops = g11nsvc.G11NSvcLocaleOperations(locale_list) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales('en') ['en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_CA', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all locales installed in the system with lang_code if that's provided. With a None lang_code all locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_IE', 'en_US', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_GB', 'en_IE.ISO8859-15', 'en_AU', 'en_NZ.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15', 'en_CA.ISO8859-1', 'en_AU.ISO8859-1', 'en_GB.ISO8859-15', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_NZ', 'en_IE.ISO8859-1', 'en_US.ISO8859-15@euro', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_US.ISO8859-1', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_CA', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_GB.ISO8859-1', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code=None) Get a sorted list of all UTF-8 locales installed in the system with lang_code and if that's provided. With a None lang_code all UTF_8 locales in the system is returned. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales('en') ['en_IE.UTF-8', 'en_AU.UTF-8', 'en_GB.UTF-8', 'en_US.UTF-8', 'en_CA.UTF-8', 'en_NZ.UTF-8', 'en_SG.UTF-8', 'en_ZW.UTF-8', 'en_HK.UTF-8', 'en_BW.UTF-8', 'en_PH.UTF-8', 'en_ZA.UTF-8', 'en_IN.UTF-8', 'en_MT.UTF-8'] - g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc(self, desc_locale=None) Get the descriptions of all utf8 system locales in desc_locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales_desc('en_US.UTF-8') [u'Chinese (Hong Kong SAR China)', u'English (Ireland)', u'Arabic (Syria)', u'Chinese', u'English (Australia)', u'Malayalam (India)', u'Spanish (Mexico)', u'German (Germany) [euro]', u'Estonian (Estonia)',... - g11nsvc_get_codeset Parses localename and returns the codeset name. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_codeset('ja_JP.UTF-8') UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale Gets the system default locale in /etc/default/init file. Returns C locale if none set. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_lang_code Parses localename and returns the language code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_code('ja_JP.UTF-8') ja - g11nsvc_get_lang_desc Get the language description from localename. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_lang_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") ?? - g11nsvc_get_locale_desc Get the locale description from locale name. Return description in desc_locale locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japanese (Japan) >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_locale_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") ?? (???????) - g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone Returns a localename from your timezone and languge information provided. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone("America/Indiana/Tell_City", "en") en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_get_region_code Parses localename and returns the region code. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_code('ko_KR.UTF-8') KR - g11nsvc_get_region_desc Get the region description from localename. Return description in desc_locale if available. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("ja_JP.UTF-8", "en_US.UTF-8") Japan >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_region_desc("en_US.UTF-8", "ja_JP.UTF-8") ??????? - g11nsvc_get_variation Parses localename and returns variation. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_get_variation("zh_TW.EUC@pinyin") pinyin - g11nsvc_getlocale Gets the currently set locale Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_getlocale() en_US.UTF-8 - g11nsvc_setlocale Sets the locale to localename. Eg. >>> print loc_ops.g11nsvc_setlocale("ja_JP.UTF-8") ja_JP.UTF-8 Imported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 /usr/bin/python2.6 Uncommitted Python 2.6.z interpreter commands Uncommitted Python module string Uncommitted Python module os Uncommitted Python module stat Uncommitted Python module fileinput Uncommitted Python module locale Uncommitted Python module babel Uncommitted Babel package name Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library ---------------------------------------------- Interface Classification Comments --------- --------------- --------- locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py Uncommitted Python source /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/g11nsvc.py Uncommitted Python source G11NSvcLocalePopulate Uncommitted locale populator class g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) Uncommitted API to get valid_locales. memeber of G11NSvcLocalePopulate G11NSvcLocaleOperations Uncommitted locale operations class All the below APIs are members of this class g11nsvc_setlocale(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_getlocale(self, localecategory) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_default_system_locale(self) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_lang_code(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_region_code(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_codeset(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_variation(self, localename) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_lang_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_region_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_locale_desc(self, localename, desc_locale) Uncommitted g11nsvc API g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code) Uncommitted g11nsvc API 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Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: G11N 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open --Boundary_(ID_womlEUakUqch3dRpPHOE2A) Content-type: text/plain; name="Attached Message Part" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename="Attached Message Part" _______________________________________________ opensolaris-arc mailing list opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org --Boundary_(ID_womlEUakUqch3dRpPHOE2A)-- From asa.romberger@oracle.com Wed Mar 17 12:18:07 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HJI777017570 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HJI6iO026382 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZF00M27XM5XL00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZF00LATXM300F0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HJI3ie018555 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZF00H00XAEQD00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.145.154.81] ([unknown] [129.145.154.81]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZF00D3LXM2EDC0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:18:02 -0700 From: Asa Romberger Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Asa.Romberger@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <4BA12AEA.1040506@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 3825 Copying to PSARC Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library > ---------------------------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, then it should probably be pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest that the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 > /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py > Uncommitted Python source Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just want to have g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name > g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat "g11nsvc" in each method name? > /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c > Uncommitted API man page Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. Besides, section 3c is for C library functions. > Imported Interfaces by babel > --------------------------- > babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel > documentation > SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 pkg:/runtime/python-26 > cgi Uncommitted Python module > ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module > [ ... ] These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I don't think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). > Exported Interfaces by babel > --------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > babel Uncommitted Package Name > /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 > Volatile babel man file > /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c > Volatile babel man file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py > Volatile babel init file "vendor-packages", presumably? > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py > Volatile babel source file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py > Volatile babel source file None of these are interfaces. > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat > Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat > Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to access this data. > Exported Interfaces by babel-docs > --------------------------------- > > Interface Classification Comments > --------- --------------- --------- > /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html > Volatile Babel API documentation Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an ARC case. Danek From Nicolas.Williams@sun.com Wed Mar 17 13:26:14 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HKQDgD018657 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HKQC5Q014904; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00H4J0ROAG00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG006WT0RMY630@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HKQ9bO015935; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:26:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2HKQ2Jb023991; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 94355951268857527; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:25:27 -0700 Received: from Sun.COM (/129.153.128.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:25:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:25:22 -0500 From: Nicolas Williams Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4BA13AE1.0077,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2010-03-02) Status: RO Content-Length: 1489 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:04:47AM -0700, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > 4. Technical Description > > Locale services library is a library for locale related information > written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice > of Python as an implementation language for this library is > influenced by > > * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer > and auto installer are being re-written using python. > > * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut > development time compared with writing these interfaces in C > > * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set > of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library (even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses your python library). For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently execute and parse the output of locale -a). But also C implementations of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization features. Also, there's a tight coupling between locale definitions and this library, which is a good reason to consider having this library in ON. I didn't see any functions for searching for locales given RFC5066 language tags (and optional codeset, though in general when such a function is necessary one typically also cares only about UTF-8 as the codeset). Nico -- From asa.romberger@oracle.com Wed Mar 17 13:37:25 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HKbPQ5018694 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HKbOPc009772 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00L071ACY100@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00LZ21ABBT20@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HKbNGD017214 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00L000WY6W00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.145.154.81] ([unknown] [129.145.154.81]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG007ML1A96100@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:37:20 -0700 From: Asa Romberger Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> Sender: Asa.Romberger@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Danek Duvall , Suresh Chandrasekharan Message-id: <4BA13D80.6080300@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317183249.GF3577@smelly.SFBay.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 5028 Thanks Danek. On a highlevel these are the TODOs I got from this. 1. Change the package name to g1nsvc 2. Remove g11nsvc_ prefix from the APIs 3. Remove man pages and migrate the documentation to the g11nsvc file sources as docstrings Replies inlined. Danek Duvall wrote: > Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > > >> Exported Interfaces by locale-services-library >> ---------------------------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> locale-services-library Uncommitted Package name >> > > I assume this is the pkg(5) package name, not the Python package name > (including the "pkg:" scheme here would make it clearer). If so, then it > should probably be > > pkg:/library/python-2/locale-services-library-26 > > to match the other python libraries we deliver. However, I'd suggest that > the base of the package name match the Python package name instead: > > pkg:/library/python-2/g11nsvc-26 > Noted. Thanks. > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/g11nsvc/__init__.py >> Uncommitted Python source >> > > Note that the files aren't themselves public interfaces. The Python > package names -- what you'd import -- are, though. So you probably just > want to have > > g11nsvc Uncommitted Python package name > > OK. >> g11nsvc_get_valid_locales (self) >> > > Given that the package name already starts with "g11nsvc" and these are > methods on objects rather than unbound functions, why repeat "g11nsvc" in > each method name? > > This can be removed. However if user do like from g11nsvc import * then these will be useful. But I understand that that specific usage is not recommended Will Change it >> /usr/share/man/man3c/g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales.3c >> Uncommitted API man page >> > > Typically we don't provide man pages for Python APIs. Please use > docstrings and let folks use pydoc to access the documentation. Besides, > section 3c is for C library functions. > > Sure. I will migrate the info in the man pages to the source as docstrings >> Imported Interfaces by babel >> --------------------------- >> babel-docs Uncommitted package name for babel >> documentation >> SUNWpython2.6 Uncommitted package name for Python 2.6 >> > > pkg:/runtime/python-26 > Thanks > >> cgi Uncommitted Python module >> ConfigParser Uncommitted Python module >> [ ... ] >> > > These are all standard modules that come with the base interpreter; I don't > think it's necessary to list them all, any more than you'd list all the > libc functions you used (or even that you used libc functions). > > Thanks. I thought when in doubt providing more info is a good idea :) >> Exported Interfaces by babel >> --------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> babel Uncommitted Package Name >> /usr/share/man/man1/pybabel.1 >> Volatile babel man file >> /usr/share/man/man1/babel.3c >> Volatile babel man file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py >> Volatile babel init file >> > > "vendor-packages", presumably? > yes it should be vendor-packages. > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/core.py >> Volatile babel source file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/dates.py >> Volatile babel source file >> > > None of these are interfaces. > OK > >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/global.dat >> Volatile Pickled CLDR timezone data file >> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/localedata/aa.dat >> Volatile Pickled CLDR locale data file >> > > I don't think these are interfaces, either. You probably just want to > document the tokens that programs using babel or g11nsvc would use to > access this data. > > OK >> Exported Interfaces by babel-docs >> --------------------------------- >> >> Interface Classification Comments >> --------- --------------- --------- >> /usr/share/doc/babel/api/babel-module.html >> Volatile Babel API documentation >> > > Documentation is not an interface, and doesn't need to show up in an ARC > case. > > man pages do refer these files, so I thought I will include them. Since man pages are not needed for python, I will remove these Thanks much for the feedback, Regards, Suresh > Danek > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-arc mailing list opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org From gdamore@sun.com Wed Mar 17 13:48:09 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HKm9Og018865 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HKm3Xo025780 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00N051S80D00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00LYG1S7BT80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HKm7W3019478 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00H001O72R00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG006NL1S6UOA0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:48:06 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Nicolas Williams Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <4BA14006.8000301@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 2148 On 03/17/10 01:25 PM, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:04:47AM -0700, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > >> 4. Technical Description >> >> Locale services library is a library for locale related information >> written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice >> of Python as an implementation language for this library is >> influenced by >> >> * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer >> and auto installer are being re-written using python. >> >> * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut >> development time compared with writing these interfaces in C >> >> * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set >> of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. >> > There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library > (even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses > your python library). For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently > execute and parse the output of locale -a). But also C implementations > of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization > features. > > Also, there's a tight coupling between locale definitions and this > library, which is a good reason to consider having this library in ON. > > I didn't see any functions for searching for locales given RFC5066 > language tags (and optional codeset, though in general when such a > function is necessary one typically also cares only about UTF-8 as the > codeset). > Agree strongly. I think there may be a call here for both C and Python bindings. On another note, the case references man pages for section3c, which is really intended for things that are part of libc. I think you might need to create another section, or put this in a Python specific section. (Not sure what that would be.) I have not had a chance to fully chew on everything spelled out here -- I can do so if there is need, but it might be better if one of the former LSARC members could examine this a bit more closely. - Garrett From Nicolas.Williams@sun.com Wed Mar 17 14:10:25 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HLAPHh019375 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HLAMWo013137; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG0021N2TA8R00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG001PC2T98L50@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HLAKGM017203; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:10:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2HKQ2uc010032; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt005.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 89750991268860182; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:09:42 -0700 Received: from Sun.COM (/129.153.128.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:09:41 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:09:37 -0500 From: Nicolas Williams Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA14006.8000301@sun.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <20100317210936.GW14993@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4BA1453B.00E5,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14006.8000301@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2010-03-02) Status: RO Content-Length: 1239 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:48:06PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On 03/17/10 01:25 PM, Nicolas Williams wrote: > >There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library > >(even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses > >your python library). For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently > >execute and parse the output of locale -a). But also C implementations > >of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization > >features. > >[...] > > Agree strongly. I think there may be a call here for both C and > Python bindings. Also, with regards to a C implementation, while I'd be happy with one that called out to a python daemon in the short-term, I'd not recommend that approach in the long-term, since that would tend to result in large numbers of daemons whose only purpose is to make available to C apps APIs that should really have been written in C in the first place. I think Python and other HLLs are fine for many purposes, but they are not fine for writing system libraries for an OS that is mostly written in C. Locales in particular and much G11N infrastructure are really low-level and core features of the OS. They should be written in C. Nico -- From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 14:15:53 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HLFrrb019421 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HLFrie010437 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG0020732HUA00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG001PE32G8L80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HLFq5W013279 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00G002YG9C00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG00HD632FZXD0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:15:49 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: Nicolas Williams Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 2695 Thanks for the comments. If requirements exist, we can look into how to provide C bindings for this python library later. Regarding the coupling with system locales, the current library abstracts the locale source and can read the current valid locales from installed system or installation media or can work with a list of externally provided locales. The list of locales is mostly used for some validations (like checking if a constructed locale is valid) other than that this library is mostly useful as an interface for CLDR data. The following functions in the library do support RFC3066 language tags def g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code=None): --> returns all locales for lang_code def g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code=None): --> Returns UTF-8 locales for lang_code def g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code=None): --> Returns non-UTF-8 locales for lang code def g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone(self, timezone, lang_code, check_locale=True, encoding="UTF-8"): --> Contructs a locale from a timezone/lang code info Regards, Suresh Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:04:47AM -0700, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > >> 4. Technical Description >> >> Locale services library is a library for locale related information >> written Python planning tobe delivered to Solaris Next. Choice >> of Python as an implementation language for this library is >> influenced by >> >> * A request from installer team, for inclusion in text-installer >> and auto installer are being re-written using python. >> >> * Python's richer set of libraries and ease of coding will cut >> development time compared with writing these interfaces in C >> >> * Though providing such a library in C may appeal to a wider set >> of projects, as of right now we do not have any such requirement. >> > > There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library > (even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses > your python library). For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently > execute and parse the output of locale -a). But also C implementations > of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization > features. > > Also, there's a tight coupling between locale definitions and this > library, which is a good reason to consider having this library in ON. > > I didn't see any functions for searching for locales given RFC5066 > language tags (and optional codeset, though in general when such a > function is necessary one typically also cares only about UTF-8 as the > codeset). > > Nico > From Nicolas.Williams@sun.com Wed Mar 17 14:35:38 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HLZcGI019667 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HLZaqN043462; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00E0R3ZCU900@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00D0F3ZC0W20@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HLZYHX012348; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:35:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2HLZWFL016777; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:35:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 89812951268861628; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:33:48 -0700 Received: from Sun.COM (/129.153.128.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:33:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:33:43 -0500 From: Nicolas Williams Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20100317213343.GX14993@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A0B0205.4BA14B25.01F9,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2010-03-02) Status: RO Content-Length: 1199 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 05:15:49PM -0400, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > If requirements exist, we can look into how to provide C bindings > for this python library later. Who sets requirements? I only know that there are definitely uses for C bindings of this API in ONNV and elsewhere. > The following functions in the library do support RFC3066 language tags Sorry, I typoed, it's RFC5646. > def g11nsvc_get_all_system_locales(self, lang_code=None): --> > returns all locales for lang_code > def g11nsvc_get_all_system_utf8_locales(self, lang_code=None): > --> Returns UTF-8 locales for lang_code > def g11nsvc_get_all_system_legacy_locales(self, lang_code=None): > --> Returns non-UTF-8 locales for lang code > def g11nsvc_get_localename_from_timezone(self, timezone, > lang_code, check_locale=True, encoding="UTF-8"): --> Contructs a > locale from a timezone/lang code info Ah, that was unclear to me. Do make sure that the documents state this explicitly. (RFC5646 language tags are not always equivalent to the ISO-639 language codes. There's not always a direct mapping of RFC5646 language tag + codeset to locale. Matching rules are specified in RFC 4647.) Nico -- From gdamore@sun.com Wed Mar 17 14:44:06 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HLi66x019703 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HLi1dp015595 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG005194DIRM00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG004TK4DH8F00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HLi5jX018934 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG0030049VRZ00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG00AHB4DBI750@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:43:58 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: Nicolas Williams , Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 535 On 03/17/10 02:15 PM, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Thanks for the comments. > > If requirements exist, we can look into how to provide C bindings for > this python library later. I think you're probably approaching this backwards. With most other languages (not sure about Python), its usually easier to provide the underlying implementation in C, and add language bindings on top. In particular, I'd be really unhappy if accessing g11n services required a program written in C to bring in a Python runtime. - Garrett From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 15:51:10 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HMpAcD020568 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HMp90f016185 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:51:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG009077H90800@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00MUB7H91640@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HMp9uL013688 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG0000078FY500@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG00KKU7H77RH0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:51:06 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Nicolas Williams , Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 1084 Hi Garret, The requirement for the library came from installer group. Originally we are planning to deliver the library in C, since the text/auto installers currently are getting re-written in Python, as per their request, we changed the implementation to python. (Sure writing it in C and provide python bindings is a possibility, but compared to python, the development time will be much more in C, and we were not aware of C requirements for a CLDR interface library) What we can realistically do is to work on a C implementation after this python library is integrated (and installers can use it), and at that point replace the existing library with python bindings to that C library. regards, Suresh > > I think you're probably approaching this backwards. With most other > languages (not sure about Python), its usually easier to provide the > underlying implementation in C, and add language bindings on top. > > In particular, I'd be really unhappy if accessing g11n services > required a program written in C to bring in a Python runtime. > > - Garrett > From gdamore@Sun.COM Wed Mar 17 16:12:14 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2HNCES2021410 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2HNCC2d047142 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00E198GDU100@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00M788GC1780@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2HNCCUw017409 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG0090088QLZ00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG0036I8G604H0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:12:06 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: Nicolas Williams , Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1235 On 03/17/10 03:51 PM, Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Hi Garret, > > The requirement for the library came from installer group. Originally > we are planning to deliver the library in C, since the text/auto > installers currently are getting re-written in Python, as per their > request, we changed the implementation to python. (Sure writing it in > C and provide python bindings is a possibility, but compared to > python, the development time will be much more in C, and we were not > aware of C requirements for a CLDR interface library) > > What we can realistically do is to work on a C implementation after > this python library is integrated (and installers can use it), and at > that point replace the existing library with python bindings to that C > library. That would be a reasonable compromise. - Garrett > > regards, > Suresh >> >> I think you're probably approaching this backwards. With most other >> languages (not sure about Python), its usually easier to provide the >> underlying implementation in C, and add language bindings on top. >> >> In particular, I'd be really unhappy if accessing g11n services >> required a program written in C to bring in a Python runtime. >> >> - Garrett >> From David.Lim@sun.com Wed Mar 17 20:49:37 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2I3nb2N024327 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2I3nbpp025321 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00007LAPAK00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG007EILAOAB80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2I3nasD014588 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00F00L36HH00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.21] ([unknown] [75.128.55.123]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG007C5LAOPOA0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49:35 -0700 From: David Lim Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> Sender: David.Lim@sun.com To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 85 Is there a particular reason why Python 2.6 is used and not the later Python 3.1? From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Wed Mar 17 20:51:57 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2I3pvQC024342 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2I3ptiD026471 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:51:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG0020JLEKJ500@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00186LEJ5HE0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2I3ptJx014738 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00500L35DI00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG003H9LEISY10@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:51:52 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: David Lim Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA1A358.9090702@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 179 Current default in the OpenSolaris 2010.03 is used... No other reason. David Lim wrote: > Is there a particular reason why Python 2.6 is used and not the later > Python 3.1? > From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Wed Mar 17 21:30:43 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2I4UhkB024931 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2I4Ufch053900; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00E0TN751D00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG005LON742E20@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2I4UdHU028035; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2HKLrq6032206; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:30:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt006.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 90747571268886574; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:29:34 -0700 Received: from [129.145.155.53] (/129.145.155.53) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:29:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:29:33 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> To: Nicolas Williams Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Message-id: <4BA1AC2D.40203@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4BA1AC6E.0192:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 806 Nicolas Williams wrote: > There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library > (even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses > your python library). For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently > execute and parse the output of locale -a). But also C implementations > of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization > features. And while admittedly not this project, add gdm to the list for this informal advice to the project team for a follow-on project, if the resulting API will allow gdm to get a list of locales without mapping (and leaving mapped) almost a hundred locale .so files, as noted in CR 6920064. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM Wed Mar 17 22:17:00 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2I5H0qj025551 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2I5H0UL014712 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZG00005PCCTA00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZG00EPRPCB8670@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2I5Gx1W020042 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZG00G00P7D3300@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZG0038DPC9SYE0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:16:55 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA1AC2D.40203@oracle.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: Nicolas Williams , Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4BA1B747.1070608@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA1AC2D.40203@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 5670 While a proposed python project API g11nsvc_get_valid_locales() in locale services library do have an option for not testing setlocale() when listing out locales, (but just look for /usr/lib/locale/<localename>/<localename>.so.? ), default and better way is to test for a  valid locale by calling setlocale(), which's more accurate and rightly flags error with an invalid locale shared object file.

I think the comments in 6920064 like following

"The supported method to get the
list of available locales is to run "locale -a" (see locale(1)).
gdmgreeter should read the output of "locale -a" instead of scanning
/usr/lib/locale and calling setlocale() for all directories."

does not seem to be right, can be verified by the multitudes of setlocale() called by locale -a

truss -ulibc::setlocale -t ' ' locale -a

Further looking into

http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/locale/locale.c

reveals how locale -a checks for locales, going to /usr/lib/locale and for each dir, by calling setlocale() inside the following function
static void
    574 check_loc(char *loc)
    575 {
    576 	int	cat;
    577 
    578 	/* first, try LC_ALL */
    579 	if (setlocale(LC_ALL, loc) != NULL) {
    580 		/* succeeded */
    581 		add_loc_entry(loc);
    582 		return;
    583 	}
    584 
    585 	/*
    586 	 * LC_ALL failed.
    587 	 * try each category.
    588 	 */
    589 	for (cat = 0; cat <= _LastCategory; cat++) {
    590 		if (setlocale(cat, loc) != NULL) {
    591 			/* succeeded */
    592 			add_loc_entry(loc);
    593 			return;
    594 		}
    595 	}
    596 
    597 	/* loc is not a valid locale */
    598 }


So it seems, unless setlocale() is not fixed we need to resort to less stricter checkings (like to look for /usr/lib/locale/<localename>/<localename>.so.) for overcoming this issue.

Suresh

Alan Coopersmith wrote: 
Nicolas Williams wrote:
  
There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library
(even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses
your python library).  For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently
execute and parse the output of locale -a).  But also C implementations
of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization
features.
    

And while admittedly not this project, add gdm to the list for this informal
advice to the project team for a follow-on project, if the resulting API will
allow gdm to get a list of locales without mapping (and leaving mapped) almost
a hundred locale .so files, as noted in CR 6920064.

From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Thu Mar 18 04:10:52 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2IBAqr2017435 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2IBAqE1006768 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZH001095Q4WF00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZH0014M5Q30H10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2IBApww008771 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZH00C005K2I800@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZH00BSP5Q2FO00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:10:50 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA1B747.1070608@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA20A3A.5070505@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA1AC2D.40203@oracle.com> <4BA1B747.1070608@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 7343 Another point of the comments in 6920064 may be - if you're calling an external exe like 'locale -a' from gdm, then the lost space is reclaimed when it exits. So locale -a is marginally better than doing this inside gdmgreeter which's potentially lasts some what more... But when the user logs in to desktop it exits though... Only gdm-binary remains at that point.

Suresh

Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote:
While a proposed python project API g11nsvc_get_valid_locales() in locale services library do have an option for not testing setlocale() when listing out locales, (but just look for /usr/lib/locale/<localename>/<localename>.so.? ), default and better way is to test for a  valid locale by calling setlocale(), which's more accurate and rightly flags error with an invalid locale shared object file.

I think the comments in 6920064 like following

"The supported method to get the
list of available locales is to run "locale -a" (see locale(1)).
gdmgreeter should read the output of "locale -a" instead of scanning
/usr/lib/locale and calling setlocale() for all directories."

does not seem to be right, can be verified by the multitudes of setlocale() called by locale -a

truss -ulibc::setlocale -t ' ' locale -a

Further looking into

http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/locale/locale.c

reveals how locale -a checks for locales, going to /usr/lib/locale and for each dir, by calling setlocale() inside the following function
static void
    574 check_loc(char *loc)
    575 {
    576 	int	cat;
    577 
    578 	/* first, try LC_ALL */
    579 	if (setlocale(LC_ALL, loc) != NULL) {
    580 		/* succeeded */
    581 		add_loc_entry(loc);
    582 		return;
    583 	}
    584 
    585 	/*
    586 	 * LC_ALL failed.
    587 	 * try each category.
    588 	 */
    589 	for (cat = 0; cat <= _LastCategory; cat++) {
    590 		if (setlocale(cat, loc) != NULL) {
    591 			/* succeeded */
    592 			add_loc_entry(loc);
    593 			return;
    594 		}
    595 	}
    596 
    597 	/* loc is not a valid locale */
    598 }


So it seems, unless setlocale() is not fixed we need to resort to less stricter checkings (like to look for /usr/lib/locale/<localename>/<localename>.so.) for overcoming this issue.

Suresh

Alan Coopersmith wrote: 
Nicolas Williams wrote:
  
There's a number of projects that could greatly benefit from a C library
(even if that were implemented using IPC to a python daemon that uses
your python library).  For example, ssh(1) and sshd(1M) (which currently
execute and parse the output of locale -a).  But also C implementations
of a growing number of Internet protocols that provide globalization
features.
    

And while admittedly not this project, add gdm to the list for this informal
advice to the project team for a follow-on project, if the resulting API will
allow gdm to get a list of locales without mapping (and leaving mapped) almost
a hundred locale .so files, as noted in CR 6920064.


From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Thu Mar 18 07:35:41 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2IEZeCJ020156 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2IEZZBB007146; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:35:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZH00617F7F2800@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.25]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZH00JHLF7DEW60@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2IEZbHJ002599; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:35:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2HMCZv2005078; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:35:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 92093071268922923; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:23 -0700 Received: from [129.145.155.53] (/129.145.155.53) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:35:21 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> To: David Lim Cc: Suresh Chandrasekharan , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BA23A29.6060402@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A0B0201.4BA23A38.0312:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 346 David Lim wrote: > Is there a particular reason why Python 2.6 is used and not the later > Python 3.1? Python 3.1 has not yet gone through ARC review, nor been delivered in Solaris or OpenSolaris, so isn't available for use yet. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Fri Mar 26 09:45:09 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2QGj9d9018325 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2QGj7Vs006501 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZW0070LEJ8WV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@SUN.COM); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZW0049TEJ7FBA0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@SUN.COM); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2QGj7di023252 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZW00L00EJ1UB00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@SUN.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@SUN.COM); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([unknown] [74.183.249.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZW006TWEJ5IG30@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@SUN.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@SUN.COM); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:45:03 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Locale Services Library [LSARC/2010/094 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010] In-reply-to: <4BA23A29.6060402@oracle.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BACE48F.7000508@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003171804.o2HI4lF0015359@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20100317202522.GT14993@Sun.COM> <4BA14685.6090601@sun.com> <4BA14D1E.8080405@sun.com> <4BA15CDA.7020609@sun.com> <4BA161C6.7060603@sun.com> <51825687-BE51-4471-B10C-FDEE66F95CD0@sun.com> <4BA23A29.6060402@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090804) Status: RO Content-Length: 315 Timed out & approved. Suresh Alan Coopersmith wrote: > David Lim wrote: > >> Is there a particular reason why Python 2.6 is used and not the later >> Python 3.1? >> > > Python 3.1 has not yet gone through ARC review, nor been delivered in > Solaris or OpenSolaris, so isn't available for use yet. > >