From sacadmin Wed Nov 15 12:35:33 2006 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAFKZXR2024658; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alanc@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id kAFKZWoq024654; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:35:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:35:32 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Coopersmith Message-Id: <200611152035.kAFKZWoq024654@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: PSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: xserver-group@sun.com Subject: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement [PSARC/2006/641 Timeout: 11/22/2006] Subject: PSARC FastTrack [11/22/2006]: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of the entire X server team. It will time out on Wednesday, Nov. 22, at which point we will all be giving much thanks. -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase %I% %G% SMI 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Alan Coopersmith 1.3 Date of This Document: 15 November, 2006 4. Technical Description This case seeks approval to announce the EOF of the Xsun X server. The current draft of the release notes entry is: The Xsun server for the X Window System may not be included in a future release of Solaris. Users are recommended to migrate to the Xorg server when possible. Features found in Xsun but not in Xorg, such as Display Postscript and X Image Extension (XIE), may also not be included in a future release of Solaris. Currently Xorg support is provided for x86 local graphics devices. The SPARC graphics team is currently in development of Xorg drivers for the XVR-300 and XVR-2500 graphics cards. The Sun Ray team is also in development of a Sun Ray product which does not depend on Xsun. This case does not include removal of Xsun at this time - just starting the one year to FCS countdown timer. A future case will seek that removal once the above mentioned dependencies are closer to delivery. Interfaces Imported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------------------------------------- Xorg Standard / External PSARC 2004/187 Interfaces Exported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------------------------------------- Xsun Obsolete Assumed formerly Stable 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: X Consolidation / Desktop C-Team 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack From sacadmin Wed Nov 15 14:35:34 2006 Received: from engmail3mpk.sfbay.Sun.COM (engmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.26]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAFMZYxq003243; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from marduk.eng.sun.com (marduk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.224]) by engmail3mpk.sfbay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kAFMZYcp028112; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from marduk.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marduk.eng.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAFMd59I008201; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gww@localhost) by marduk.eng.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.11/Submit) id kAFMd5xB008200; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Winiger Message-Id: <200611152239.kAFMd5xB008200@marduk.eng.sun.com> To: PSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, alanc@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement [PSARC/2006/641 Timeout: 11/22/2006] Cc: xserver-group@sun.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > Currently Xorg support is provided for x86 local graphics devices. > The SPARC graphics team is currently in development of Xorg drivers > for the XVR-300 and XVR-2500 graphics cards. The Sun Ray team is > also in development of a Sun Ray product which does not depend on Xsun. Really for the future case, but what SPARC systems are planned to be supported? fbconfig on my existing systems say ffb and m640. How does this relate to xvr*? Gary.. From sacadmin Wed Nov 15 15:07:31 2006 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAFN7V2T005288; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kAFN7U3E018086; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <455B9DB2.5040301@sun.com> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:07:30 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Winiger CC: PSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, alanc@sac.sfbay.sun.com, xserver-group@sun.com Subject: Re: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement [PSARC/2006/641 Timeout: 11/22/2006] References: <200611152239.kAFMd5xB008200@marduk.eng.sun.com> In-Reply-To: <200611152239.kAFMd5xB008200@marduk.eng.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Winiger wrote: >> Currently Xorg support is provided for x86 local graphics devices. >> The SPARC graphics team is currently in development of Xorg drivers >> for the XVR-300 and XVR-2500 graphics cards. The Sun Ray team is >> also in development of a Sun Ray product which does not depend on Xsun. > > Really for the future case, but what SPARC systems are planned > to be supported? fbconfig on my existing systems say ffb and > m640. How does this relate to xvr*? A table mapping graphics devices from driver names to marketing names is available internally at: http://xserver.sfbay.sun.com/twiki/bin/view/X/SunFrameBuffers I don't know about external customer documentation beyond the Sun System Handbook on SunSolve for customers with valid support contracts. For your specific case, ffb is Creator-3D, m64 is PGX-8/24/64. Both are almost a decade older than the XVR-300 & XVR-2500. (Those XVR models first went on sale during 2006. ffb was the first UltraSPARC 3D graphics card, sold with the original Ultra 1 & 2 machines, with later models for later machines. m64 was the on board graphics in Ultra 5 & 10, and Sun Blade 100 & 150, as well as add in PCI boards.) Support for graphics devices for pre PCI-Express systems is still TBD. (XVR-300 & XVR-2500 are the PCI-E boards for Ultra 25 & 45.) Even prior to the Xsun EOF, SPARC graphics had a long list of graphics boards proposed for EOF due to end of hardware support life, including both of yours. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From sacadmin Wed Nov 15 17:29:57 2006 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAG1Tv66015950 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] (almas.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.108.211]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id kAG1Tu74017117; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:29:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <455BBF14.4090508@sun.com> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:29:56 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PSARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com CC: xserver-group@sun.com Subject: Re: Xsun Obsolescence / EOF Announcement [PSARC/2006/641 Timeout: 11/22/2006] References: <200611152035.kAFKZWoq024654@sac.sfbay.sun.com> In-Reply-To: <200611152035.kAFKZWoq024654@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This case was approved at PSARC today. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering