From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM Thu Sep 20 22:07:00 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8L56xsP029123 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l8L540qn000724 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:04:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l8L53sot026193 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JOP00501CQ4U600@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.157.48] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JOP00895CQ6QZ80@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:33:41 +0530 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM To: psarc-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 2573 This information is Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request. 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Suresh Chandrasekharan 1.3 Date of This Document: 21 August, 2007 4. Technical Description OVERVIEW /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt is a utility which takes in text in native single byte CTL locales (ar, he and th_TH) and convert it into CTL'ised output. The output of ctlconvert_txt is the actual presentation forms. This is no longer used as conversion from logical to visual representation is done at runtime now and we are not interested in storing presentation forms output by ctlconvert_txt which is not portable. The original purpose this filter was to provide glyph input into non-PS printers. mp(1) do have -D/-P option for creating non-PS output so this is not useful at all now. /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp is a print filter used for converting single byte Arabic and Hebrew flat text file into a simple PostScript file for possible display or printing. As a part of print filter consolidation project, we developed multiscript capable /usr/bin/mp which is able to handle all scripts with proper configuration files. So far mp was lacking the configuration file it needed for printing in native Arabic and Hebrew locales, which justified ctlmp's existence. Now we are providing configuration files for these single byte locales also, as a result ctlmp is proposed to be removed. 4.12. Dependencies: Depends on the fix for "4771193 s10_build21 & s9ur2_build8: Arabic text does not print correctly" integrated into Solaris Nevada. INTERFACE STABILITY AND RELEASE BINDING There is no notable imported interfaces. The following are the exported interfaces: Interface Stability Reference /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp obsolete /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt obsolete 4.6. Doc Impact: Man page /usr/openwin/share/man/man1/ctlmp.1 will be removed. EOF announcement in s10u5. (According to file:///net/benet.sfbay/benet/S10U5/Schedule/U5schedule.draft5 s10u5 GA 11/14/07) EOF execution - Nevada 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: G11N 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM Thu Sep 20 22:32:41 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8L5WecC029343 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM [192.18.43.132]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l8L5TfxT006263 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:29:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l8L5TZDS027030 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JOP00F01DT7VM00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.157.48] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JOP008PQDX9QZB0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:59:31 +0530 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: psarc-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 2766 Date correction, should be 21 September, 2007 Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > This information is Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request. > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Suresh Chandrasekharan > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 21 August, 2007 > 4. Technical Description > > OVERVIEW > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt is a utility which takes in > text in native single byte CTL locales (ar, he and th_TH) and > convert it into CTL'ised output. The output of ctlconvert_txt > is the actual presentation forms. This is no longer used as > conversion from logical to visual representation is done at > runtime now and we are not interested in storing presentation > forms output by ctlconvert_txt which is not portable. The original > purpose this filter was to provide glyph input into non-PS > printers. mp(1) do have -D/-P option for creating non-PS output > so this is not useful at all now. > > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp is a print filter used for converting > single byte Arabic and Hebrew flat text file into a simple > PostScript file for possible display or printing. As a part of > print filter consolidation project, we developed multiscript > capable /usr/bin/mp which is able to handle all scripts with > proper configuration files. So far mp was lacking the > configuration file it needed for printing in native Arabic and > Hebrew locales, which justified ctlmp's existence. Now we are > providing configuration files for these single byte locales > also, as a result ctlmp is proposed to be removed. > > 4.12. Dependencies: > > Depends on the fix for "4771193 s10_build21 & s9ur2_build8: > Arabic text does not print correctly" integrated into Solaris > Nevada. > > > INTERFACE STABILITY AND RELEASE BINDING > > There is no notable imported interfaces. The following are the exported > interfaces: > > Interface Stability Reference > > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp obsolete > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt obsolete > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > > Man page > /usr/openwin/share/man/man1/ctlmp.1 > will be removed. > > > EOF announcement in s10u5. (According to > file:///net/benet.sfbay/benet/S10U5/Schedule/U5schedule.draft5 > s10u5 GA 11/14/07) > > EOF execution - Nevada > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > G11N > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Fri Sep 21 09:46:14 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8LGkDiI009242 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (phorcys.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.143]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l8LGhCSt009935; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:43:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8LGhCY2013790; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l8LGhCij013787; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:43:12 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:43:11 -0400 From: James Carlson To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: psarc-ext@Sun.COM Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-Reply-To: <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1593 Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > > is the actual presentation forms. This is no longer used as > > conversion from logical to visual representation is done at > > runtime now and we are not interested in storing presentation > > forms output by ctlconvert_txt which is not portable. The original > > purpose this filter was to provide glyph input into non-PS > > printers. mp(1) do have -D/-P option for creating non-PS output > > so this is not useful at all now. Are there any users potentially still using these utilities? If so, then what must they do on upgrade to a Nevada-based release? Does the upgrade process itself automatically adjust the print filters to the new mechanism, or is there a document that explains the necessary customer action? If there's customer action required, is this something that customers can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? > > There is no notable imported interfaces. The following are the exported > > interfaces: > > > > Interface Stability Reference > > > > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp obsolete > > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt obsolete Looks like this is: EOF Notice - Patch/Micro release binding Actual EOF - Minor release binding -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Mon Oct 1 05:42:11 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l91CgA4L007871 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 05:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l91CcuUJ002859 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:39:01 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JP800B07GGX8700@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JP8007F4GGX6C40@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l91Ccuj4022204 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JP800401GCP0L00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.48.156] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JP800KMTGGQQBD0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:15:48 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: James Carlson Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) Status: RO Content-Length: 2707 Thanks much for the mail. See my comments inlined. Pl. view this request as an EOF announcement for print filter consolidation similar to we did for PSARC/2001/754. James Carlson wrote: > Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > >>> is the actual presentation forms. This is no longer used as >>> conversion from logical to visual representation is done at >>> runtime now and we are not interested in storing presentation >>> forms output by ctlconvert_txt which is not portable. The original >>> purpose this filter was to provide glyph input into non-PS >>> printers. mp(1) do have -D/-P option for creating non-PS output >>> so this is not useful at all now. >>> > > Are there any users potentially still using these utilities? > No, these are quite antique tools. While there are no guarantees that people aren't using this, I will be quite surprised if we find any users, With fixing the mp(1) utility to work in native Arabic/Hebrew locale, (we already have the fix ready to be integrated for the bug "4771193 Native Arabic/Hebrew locale does not print correctly using mp") this utility may be replaced by mp(1). So if at all any customers are using this, they can use mp(1) instead. > If so, then what must they do on upgrade to a Nevada-based release? > Does the upgrade process itself automatically adjust the print filters > to the new mechanism, or is there a document that explains the > necessary customer action? > The following is the mechanism used for alerting the customers about the EOF. The EOF notice a message "ctlmp: This utility will be removed from next Solaris Major release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead" will output to stderr for each invocation of ctlmp. Pl. see the reasons for EOFing ctlconvert-txt in the OVERVIEW section of the fasttrack one pager submitted. "ctlconvert-txt: This utility will be removed from next Solaris Major release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead". > If there's customer action required, is this something that customers > can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF > notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? > > >>> There is no notable imported interfaces. The following are the exported >>> interfaces: >>> >>> Interface Stability Reference >>> >>> /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp obsolete >>> /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt obsolete >>> > > Looks like this is: > > EOF Notice - Patch/Micro release binding > Actual EOF - Minor release binding > Yes, you're right. Regards, Suresh From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Mon Oct 1 06:10:36 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l91DAZQW008756 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l91D7MF6006310; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:07:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JP80000PHSBMO00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com ([129.148.174.143]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JP800FZIHS84E30@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l91D7As2022771; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l91D7A6H022768; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:07:10 -0400 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: psarc-ext@Sun.Com, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 2261 Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > Pl. view this request as an EOF announcement for print filter > consolidation similar to we did for PSARC/2001/754. OK. > James Carlson wrote: > > If so, then what must they do on upgrade to a Nevada-based release? > > Does the upgrade process itself automatically adjust the print filters > > to the new mechanism, or is there a document that explains the > > necessary customer action? > > > The following is the mechanism used for alerting the customers about the > EOF. > > The EOF notice a message "ctlmp: This utility will be removed from next > Solaris Major release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable Given that we're not planning any Major releases, and haven't had one for 15+ years, that's probably not the right wording. It should say instead: This utility may be removed from a future Solaris release. > printing mechanism instead" will output to stderr for each invocation of > ctlmp. Who would see that message? Isn't this something that is likely to be buried under either lots of scripting or a GUI for most users? I think there needs to be at least a release note for this. > Pl. see the reasons for EOFing ctlconvert-txt in the OVERVIEW > section of the fasttrack one pager submitted. "ctlconvert-txt: This > utility will be removed from next Solaris Major release. Please use > mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead". Also inaccurate wording -- Solaris 10, for example, was a Minor release. Solaris Nevada hasn't been released yet (so doesn't formally have a binding yet), but currently admits only Minor-binding projects. (Modulo the mind-bending confusion over consolidations ...) > > If there's customer action required, is this something that customers > > can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF > > notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? Is there an answer to these questions? Can the user prepare for this change, or does the system just break on upgrade? -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Mon Oct 1 07:11:11 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l91EBBSF010978 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l91E7q7x017292 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JP80026PKLE6V00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.Com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:08:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JP8005B4KLBCOE0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.Com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l91E7x9B012327 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JP800M01KI61400@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.Com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.48.156] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JP800N0UKKY1NA0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.Com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:44:44 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: James Carlson Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) Status: RO Content-Length: 2933 Thanks much for the quick response. Pl. see my comments inlined. James Carlson wrote: > Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > >> Pl. view this request as an EOF announcement for print filter >> consolidation similar to we did for PSARC/2001/754. >> > > OK. > > >> James Carlson wrote: >> >>> If so, then what must they do on upgrade to a Nevada-based release? >>> Does the upgrade process itself automatically adjust the print filters >>> to the new mechanism, or is there a document that explains the >>> necessary customer action? >>> >>> >> The following is the mechanism used for alerting the customers about the >> EOF. >> >> The EOF notice a message "ctlmp: This utility will be removed from next >> Solaris Major release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable >> > > Given that we're not planning any Major releases, and haven't had one > for 15+ years, that's probably not the right wording. > > It should say instead: > > This utility may be removed from a future Solaris release. > Thanks for pointing that out. Will do like that. > >> printing mechanism instead" will output to stderr for each invocation of >> ctlmp. >> > > Who would see that message? Isn't this something that is likely to be > buried under either lots of scripting or a GUI for most users? > Both these are command line utilities. Users will see the message when running them unless they are redirecting stderr to /dev/null (which is possible if these are run as a part of the script) > I think there needs to be at least a release note for this. > This will be release noted for sure. > >> Pl. see the reasons for EOFing ctlconvert-txt in the OVERVIEW >> section of the fasttrack one pager submitted. "ctlconvert-txt: This >> utility will be removed from next Solaris Major release. Please use >> mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead". >> > > Also inaccurate wording -- Solaris 10, for example, was a Minor > release. Solaris Nevada hasn't been released yet (so doesn't formally > have a binding yet), but currently admits only Minor-binding projects. > (Modulo the mind-bending confusion over consolidations ...) > > Noted. The wording will be changed. >>> If there's customer action required, is this something that customers >>> can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF >>> notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? >>> > > Is there an answer to these questions? Can the user prepare for this > change, or does the system just break on upgrade? > > For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) print filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For ctlconvert-txt the part of the script which converts text to presentation forms and then piping to a print filter need to be replaced by mp(1) filter. Will be documented in the release notes. Suresh From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Mon Oct 1 07:20:29 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l91EKSxf011134 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l91EHEcF003025; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:17:17 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JP80070LL0S2P00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com ([129.148.174.143]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JP800FL7L0Q4E80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l91EH4bp023133; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l91EH4o1023130; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:17:04 -0400 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1008 Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > >>> If there's customer action required, is this something that customers > >>> can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF > >>> notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? > >>> > > > > Is there an answer to these questions? Can the user prepare for this > > change, or does the system just break on upgrade? > > > > > For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) print > filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For ctlconvert-txt > the part of the script which converts text to presentation forms and > then piping to a print filter need to be replaced by mp(1) filter. Will > be documented in the release notes. OK; thanks. That's what I was looking for. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Mon Oct 1 07:32:18 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l91EWI7e011305 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l91ESCGY022137 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JP800H0JLKKA200@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JP80079WLKK6BA0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l91ET8qw013554 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JP800J01LJE1A00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.48.156] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JP800G3HLKJIO10@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:06:05 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 FastTrack timeout 09/28/2007] In-reply-to: <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: James Carlson Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <4700FECD.8060705@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) Status: RO Content-Length: 513 >> For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) print >> filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For ctlconvert-txt >> the part of the script which converts text to presentation forms and >> then piping to a print filter need to be replaced by mp(1) filter. Will >> be documented in the release notes. >> > > OK; thanks. That's what I was looking for. > > Thanks, I am extending the timeout till 10/05/07 COB to accommodate additional suggestions if any. Suresh From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM Mon Oct 8 06:34:47 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l98DYlvE003151 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l98DUVc1038706 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:30:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPL00H0NHKKVT00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPL00MQSHKI0BC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l98DVUhD010933 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPL00701HJAWG00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.80.89] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPL006VMHKBFX00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:31:22 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 closed approved fast-track 10/05/2007] In-reply-to: <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM Cc: PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <470A312A.8020609@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 1758 This is timed out and approved on 10/05/2007 with the following TCRs. Following mechanisms will be used for alerting the customers of the EOF. 1. The EOF notice a message "ctlmp: This utility will be removed from future Solaris release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead" will output to stderr for each invocation of ctlmp. For ctlconvert_txt "ctlconvert-txt: This utility will be removed from future Solaris release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing mechanism instead". 2. For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) print filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For ctlconvert-txt the part of the script which converts text to presentation forms and then piping to a print filter need to be replaced by mp(1) filter. Will be documented in the release notes. Regards, Suresh James Carlson wrote: > Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: > >>>>> If there's customer action required, is this something that customers >>>>> can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the EOF >>>>> notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? >>>>> >>>>> >>> Is there an answer to these questions? Can the user prepare for this >>> change, or does the system just break on upgrade? >>> >>> >>> >> For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) print >> filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For ctlconvert-txt >> the part of the script which converts text to presentation forms and >> then piping to a print filter need to be replaced by mp(1) filter. Will >> be documented in the release notes. >> > > OK; thanks. That's what I was looking for. > > From Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com Mon Oct 8 07:52:10 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l98EqAJ8005012 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l98EmuuU021813 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JPL00F05L5KOY00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPL0005OL5K8GB0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l98Emu5e004699 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPL00201KZJL200@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.80.89] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPL00761L57LU70@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:48:42 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 closed approved fast-track 09/26/2007] In-reply-to: <470A312A.8020609@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Shinobu Matsuzuka Message-id: <470A434A.5070006@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <46F350AD.5000600@sun.com> <46F356BB.5000104@sun.com> <18163.62623.977481.766923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700E4F4.7090406@sun.com> <18176.61694.752607.851154@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4700F9CC.1010003@sun.com> <18177.352.392816.243311@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <470A312A.8020609@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 2066 Sorry for the incorrect approval date of 10/05/2007, right one should be 09/26/2007. Also pl. read "specification changes" for TCR's. Thanks much for James Carlson for pointing these out. Regards, Suresh Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > This is timed out and approved on 10/05/2007 with the following TCRs. > > Following mechanisms will be used for alerting the customers of the EOF. > > 1. The EOF notice a message "ctlmp: This utility will be removed from > future Solaris release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another > suitable printing mechanism instead" will output to stderr for each > invocation of ctlmp. > > For ctlconvert_txt > "ctlconvert-txt: This utility will be removed from future Solaris > release. Please use mp(1) print filter or another suitable printing > mechanism instead". > > 2. For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) > print filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For > ctlconvert-txt the part of the script which converts text to > presentation forms and then piping to a print filter need to be > replaced by mp(1) filter. Will be documented in the release notes. > > Regards, > Suresh > > > James Carlson wrote: >> Suresh Chandrasekharan writes: >> >>>>>> If there's customer action required, is this something that >>>>>> customers >>>>>> can do (prior to upgrade) on existing S10 and S9 systems when the >>>>>> EOF >>>>>> notice is released? Or is it an upgrade-break-fix cycle? >>>>>> >>>> Is there an answer to these questions? Can the user prepare for this >>>> change, or does the system just break on upgrade? >>>> >>>> >>> For ctlmp user can prepare for the upgrade by making use of mp(1) >>> print filter in places where ctlmp is used inside a script. For >>> ctlconvert-txt the part of the script which converts text to >>> presentation forms and then piping to a print filter need to be >>> replaced by mp(1) filter. Will be documented in the release notes. >>> >> >> OK; thanks. That's what I was looking for. >> >> > > From sacadmin Mon Apr 14 08:58:24 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3EFwNLW013954 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m3EFwGGO001221 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc@sun.com>; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:58:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JZB00801OD95G00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@Sun.COM); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JZB00K8WOD9HP90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@Sun.COM); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m3EFwLr4019865 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JZB00G01O30MR00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc@Sun.COM); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.49.150] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JZB00D2DOD10Q40@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc@Sun.COM); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:58:09 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 closed approved fast-track 09/26/2007] Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: psarc@sun.com Message-id: <48037F11.90306@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 933 Just would like to add some additional information to this case. The EOF announcement of this approved case will be made in s10u6. For that, creating additional interfaces named /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp-bin and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt-bin are necessary. This is because the EOF announcement approval mandates output of EOF announcement messages to stderr when the application runs. As the original source code of this application is no longer available, we need to change /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt to scripts which will output warning messages and will in turn will call the original binaries. sample ctlmp script follows... ------------------------ #!/bin/sh CTLMPBIN=ctlmp-bin printf "$CTLMPBIN: This utility is obsoleted and may be removed from next Solaris minor release. Please use mp(1) print filter instead." >&2 exec CTLMPBIN "$@" ----------------------------- Suresh. From sacadmin Mon Apr 14 10:09:57 2008 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3EH9vhF015594 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m3EH9vLB001255 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc@sun.com>; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JZB00A0LROJSP00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JZB003LGROI4X50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m3EH9s2S019327 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JZB00G01RNQH800@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM) for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.6.102.118] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JZB002H1RO35010@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:13:51 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 closed approved fast-track 09/26/2007] In-reply-to: <48037F11.90306@sun.com> Sender: Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com To: Suresh Chandrasekharan Cc: psarc@sun.com Message-id: <480390CF.9090209@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <48037F11.90306@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071119) Status: RO Content-Length: 1256 Why would the *-bin be in /usr/openwin/bin and not /usr/openwin/lib? You don't expect users to call them directly do you? -alan- Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > Just would like to add some additional information to this case. > > The EOF announcement of this approved case will be made in s10u6. For > that, creating additional interfaces named /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp-bin > and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt-bin are necessary. This is because > the EOF announcement approval mandates output of EOF announcement > messages to stderr when the application runs. As the original source > code of this application is no longer available, we need to change > /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt to scripts > which will output warning messages and will in turn will call the > original binaries. > > sample ctlmp script follows... > > ------------------------ > #!/bin/sh > CTLMPBIN=ctlmp-bin > > printf "$CTLMPBIN: This utility is obsoleted and may be removed from > next Solaris minor release. Please use mp(1) print filter instead." >&2 > > exec CTLMPBIN "$@" > ----------------------------- > > > Suresh. > -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From sacadmin Mon Apr 14 12:46:51 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3EJkoA8020383 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m3EJkWQJ014084 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc@sun.com>; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:46:49 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JZB0020BYY0U400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JZB00LUYYXZMZ70@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m3EJklSX011481 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JZB00501YPRAY00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Suresh.Chandrasekharan@Sun.COM) for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.81.204] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JZB004Y3YXQTJ90@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0400 From: Suresh Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: ctlmp/ctlconvert_txt EOF request [PSARC/2007/365 closed approved fast-track 09/26/2007] In-reply-to: <480390CF.9090209@sun.com> Sender: Suresh.Chandrasekharan@sun.com To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: psarc@sun.com Message-id: <4803B49A.6000004@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <48037F11.90306@sun.com> <480390CF.9090209@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070423) Status: RO Content-Length: 1341 Thanks much Alan for these comments. I agree. /usr/openwin/lib will be better place for *-bin's to live in. Regards, Suresh Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Why would the *-bin be in /usr/openwin/bin and not /usr/openwin/lib? > You don't expect users to call them directly do you? > > -alan- > > Suresh Chandrasekharan wrote: > >> Just would like to add some additional information to this case. >> >> The EOF announcement of this approved case will be made in s10u6. For >> that, creating additional interfaces named /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp-bin >> and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt-bin are necessary. This is because >> the EOF announcement approval mandates output of EOF announcement >> messages to stderr when the application runs. As the original source >> code of this application is no longer available, we need to change >> /usr/openwin/bin/ctlmp and /usr/openwin/bin/ctlconvert_txt to scripts >> which will output warning messages and will in turn will call the >> original binaries. >> >> sample ctlmp script follows... >> >> ------------------------ >> #!/bin/sh >> CTLMPBIN=ctlmp-bin >> >> printf "$CTLMPBIN: This utility is obsoleted and may be removed from >> next Solaris minor release. Please use mp(1) print filter instead." >&2 >> >> exec CTLMPBIN "$@" >> ----------------------------- >> >> >> Suresh. >> >> > >