From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Tue Oct 23 10:58:19 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9NHwIKd015727 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NHsmgE007338 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:54:50 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQD00001LRDZW00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQD0010PLRCANF0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9NHsmrF022085 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:54:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQD00K01ISC1Y00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:54:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQD00K3LLR8G460@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:54:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:54:44 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 4339 I'm sponsoring this fast-track for Shivakumar GN and the SFW OpenSolaris community. The timer for this case expires on 10/30/2007. The release binding is Patch. Summary ======= Expect, a tcl extension is a very powerful and extensively used tool for automating interactive commands and system administration tasks. Many people build test harnesses around expect/tcl/tk provided facilities. This proposal is to request inclusion of expect into the SFW consolidation. Currently expect sources are present in the Companion CD. This needs to be migrated into the SFW consolidation. Solaris platform deployment being one of having considerable system administration workflows involving command-line interfaces stand to benefit by addressing this. Expect 5.43 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWexpect. All interfaces included in the "Exported Interfaces" table below are Uncommitted. All files under /usr/demo are not interfaces. Dependencies ============ Versions of Tcl/Tk & expect must remain mutually compatible. SUNWTcl(>=8.2) & SUNWTk(>=8.2) are expected to be available on the system. Expect versions 5.38 and above (5.43 being latest as of now) is compatible with Tcl & Tk versions 8.2 and above (latest being 8.4.14) Out of Scope ============ Removal of the expect sources from CompanionCD will be handled independently. (discussed on the community mailing list) Interfaces ========== Stability classification Uncommitted for all exported interfaces. Man pages are included in the case materials directory. Exported Interfaces ------------------- /usr/bin/expect Command /usr/bin/expectk Command /usr/include/expect.h Header /usr/include/expect_comm.h Header /usr/include/expect_tcl.h Header /usr/include/tcldbg.h Header /usr/lib/tcl8.4/expect5.43/pkgIndex.tcl package loading script used to make expect functionality available(load) within a tcl shell dynamically /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib /usr/share/man/man1/expect.1 Man page /usr/share/man/man1/expectk.1 Man page /usr/share/man/man3/libexpect.3 Man page Imported Interfaces ------------------- SUNWTcl/SUNWTk (Ref: PSARC/2007/317 Tcl/Tk upgrade to 8.4.14) The following list of additional installed files are not interfaces. Additional example scripts -------------------------- /usr/demo/expect/autoexpect /usr/demo/expect/autopasswd /usr/demo/expect/cryptdir /usr/demo/expect/decryptdir /usr/demo/expect/dislocate /usr/demo/expect/ftp-rfc /usr/demo/expect/kibitz /usr/demo/expect/lpunlock /usr/demo/expect/mkpasswd /usr/demo/expect/multixterm /usr/demo/expect/passmass /usr/demo/expect/rftp /usr/demo/expect/rlogin-cwd /usr/demo/expect/timed-read /usr/demo/expect/timed-run /usr/demo/expect/tknewsbiff /usr/demo/expect/tkpasswd /usr/demo/expect/unbuffer /usr/demo/expect/weather /usr/demo/expect/xkibitz /usr/demo/expect/xpstat /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/autoexpect.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/cryptdir.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/decryptdir.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/dislocate.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/kibitz.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/mkpasswd.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/multixterm.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/passmass.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/tknewsbiff.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/unbuffer.1 /usr/demo/expect/man/man1/xkibitz.1 Reference Documents =================== * RFE ID# 6608957 * Mail thread: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=37586&tstart=0 OR http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/sfwnv-discuss -> thread "[sfwnv-discuss] tcl/expect in SX" From danek.duvall@sun.com Tue Oct 23 12:04:57 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9NJ4uaw018224 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NJ1NHk005853 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:01:28 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQD0070FOUFZU00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.154.35]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQD0016WOUE5RF0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NJ1PM6028147; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9NJ1PEB002316; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l9NJ1PsT002315; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:25 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 283 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:54:44PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: > /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib I neglected to notice this before. Is this the actual library, or the link to the versioned object? If the former, why isn't it versioned? How is it used? Danek From Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM Tue Oct 23 12:16:38 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9NJGbSP018687 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NJD50n004470 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:13:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQD00901PDW7N00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQD008P2PDVEE00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9NJD779016001 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:13:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQD00701O3QZM00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQD00491PDC1J10@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:12:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:12:48 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM To: Danek Duvall Cc: PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <471E47B0.7040209@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 826 Danek Duvall wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:54:44PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: > >> /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib > > I neglected to notice this before. Is this the actual library, or the link > to the versioned object? If the former, why isn't it versioned? How is it > used? I'll let Shiv answer the first two (FWIW, when I install expect from the existing open-source, it installs the actual library as libexpect5.43.so with no symlinks to a versioned library.) As for the latter question, there is a libexpect.3 man page in the materials directory. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2007/612/materials/ The thing that pushes the materials out to the caselog on www.opensolaris.org hasn't run yet for this case, so the URL above doesn't exist at the moment. -Seb From danek.duvall@sun.com Tue Oct 23 12:38:25 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9NJcO3i019190 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NJYlh5011415 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@Sun.COM>; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:34:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQD00B0JQE7NS00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQD008S4QE7EE20@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9NJYsAg004274; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9NJYsDN002662; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l9NJYsY0002661; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:34:53 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <471E47B0.7040209@sun.com> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <20071023193453.GZ1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <471E47B0.7040209@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 923 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:12:48PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: > Danek Duvall wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:54:44PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: >> >>> /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib >> >> I neglected to notice this before. Is this the actual library, or the >> link to the versioned object? If the former, why isn't it versioned? >> How is it used? > > I'll let Shiv answer the first two (FWIW, when I install expect from the > existing open-source, it installs the actual library as libexpect5.43.so > with no symlinks to a versioned library.) Wow, that's hideous. Though I'll note that it's the same for the tcl and tk libraries, too, so I guess it's just some brokenness the tcl/tk community somehow decided was the right thing to do. I'll hold my nose and try not to care. > As for the latter question, there is a libexpect.3 man page in the > materials directory. Ah, thanks. Danek From shivakumar.gn@gmail.com Tue Oct 23 23:22:24 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9O6MOFD002595 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9O6ItWn017298 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQE00A0BK7KFI00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQE00FO5K7JT4B0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay21.sun.com (relay21.sun.com [192.12.251.14] (may be forged)) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9O6C8uN006566 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:18:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mms25es.sun.com ([150.143.232.94] [150.143.232.94]) by relay25i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-2429585 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:18:54 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay22.sun.com (relay22.sun.com [192.12.251.34]) by mms25es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-687176 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:18:54 +0000 (Z) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.226] [64.233.162.226]) by relay22i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-53755873 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:18:54 +0000 (Z) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id z31so88693nzd for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.211.16 with SMTP id n16mr489554qbq.1193206733993; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:53 +0530 From: S h i v Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> To: Danek Duvall , Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <319ee2b10710232318r16c1d2e8yabf7161355f0f0d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uP3SGoxq7NAxbvUXXSAatM3nF4q68nYbPDs7eHPnXWc=; b=QVW3eRHXeiaxVZ0Yw7CLWa7G/bzl1LF5sl3XmeU6BQ7j0jYn1+bW+sSBVmCMG5SIW3NT5D6azqqJEYQT9k81o3l6Phoy7SwGX1MiBCA2kfkmePZ2an9cd/bWEB9Pz5qn6pHP45n9MGCu+HuyyPjizCYkwtRKWjvVBz8DBE+XZoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IRYbAJl80+3zel38jpUtGqLrt+04BNENv21Dn8uwP/FVItoDEwt4xKc4zYZzPbHOaZeZas6bk2YgtHSSLsvQa+Az7ewFjVYhHu4wltfTWeYllBJ0uf2/PaMP4mqFfeTsgb9lkAHXW35jYJBuT0IxktkOmp4QO/GI1FoAvLTc60A= X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1368 On 10/24/07, Danek Duvall wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:54:44PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: > > > /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib > > I neglected to notice this before. Is this the actual library, or the link > to the versioned object? It is the library (actual file) > If the former, why isn't it versioned? I have followed the default installation. Tcl & Tk's libs already had the same convention and I kept it the same. This can be changed to the below form with very little impact (see answer to next question). /usr/lib/libexpect.so -> /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43 -> /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 > How is it used? > It can be used in two ways 1. tcl scripts that get executed via tclsh can load it dynamically using "package require Expect" (something like importing it) 2. A developer may write c programs using the libraries exposed by the lib. Man page for the lib provides these details. Changing to the versioned scheme will mean installing the lib with a different name and installing 2 links to the lib. The manpage suggest linking to -lexpect5.43. A text update in the man page to reflect the new name. If we can keep libexpect5.43.so as the versioned name, then no change to man page but just installing 2 links. regards Shiv From danek.duvall@sun.com Wed Oct 24 00:01:56 2007 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9O71uM2003782 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9O6wRQ7003359 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQE00F03M1EYW00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQE005K4M1EP640@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9O6wQW9010180; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9O6wPZ6009693; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l9O6wPkF009692; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:58:25 -0700 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <319ee2b10710232318r16c1d2e8yabf7161355f0f0d2@mail.gmail.com> To: S h i v Cc: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <20071024065825.GV17676@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <20071023190125.GY1976@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <319ee2b10710232318r16c1d2e8yabf7161355f0f0d2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1161 On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:48:53AM +0530, S h i v wrote: > I have followed the default installation. Tcl & Tk's libs already had > the same convention and I kept it the same. This can be changed to the > below form with very little impact (see answer to next question). > /usr/lib/libexpect.so -> /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 > /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43 -> /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 > /usr/lib/libexpect.so.5.43.0 Yeah. I'd actually expect (hah) instead: /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so -> /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so.1 but given that the rest of the tcl suite does without the symlinks, you should just do what the package does naturally. > Changing to the versioned scheme will mean installing the lib with a > different name and installing 2 links to the lib. > The manpage suggest linking to -lexpect5.43. A text update in the man > page to reflect the new name. If we can keep libexpect5.43.so as the > versioned name, then no change to man page but just installing 2 > links. No, that's definitely too much change. We don't want to screw up other packages that would expect to build out of the box against libexpect. Thanks, Danek From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Oct 24 14:35:36 2007 Received: from sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9OLZZcW002668 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9OLW4Aw015361 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:32:07 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQF00B1DQHH7V00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQF0026BQHHVG50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9OLW5pn009758 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQF00K01Q4P6800@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([72.93.204.238]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQF003WXQHE8R10@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:32:01 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071009) Status: RO Content-Length: 974 Sebastien Roy wrote: > Exported Interfaces > ------------------- > /usr/bin/expect Command > /usr/bin/expectk Command > /usr/include/expect.h Header > /usr/include/expect_comm.h Header > /usr/include/expect_tcl.h Header > /usr/include/tcldbg.h Header > /usr/lib/tcl8.4/expect5.43/pkgIndex.tcl > package loading script used to > make expect functionality > available(load) within a tcl > shell dynamically > /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so Shared lib I just saw PSARC/2007/619 (64-bit Tcl/Tk) fly by. Does expect have 64-bit support, and does it come for free once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk libraries exist? More generally, does that case affect this one? -Seb From shivakumar.gn@gmail.com Thu Oct 25 08:19:19 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9PFJJxY018116 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9PFFlB5028793 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQH0092T3QED200@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQH0064K3QD5630@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:15:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay11i.sun.com (ip121.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.121]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9PFFn67003834 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp13es.sun.com ([160.41.209.23] [160.41.209.23]) by relay11i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-751408 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay18i.sun.com (relay18i.sun.com [129.179.4.128]) by mmp13es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-6797 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (Z) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.179] [64.233.166.179]) by relay1i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-4311827 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (Z) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so837605pyi for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.14 with SMTP id f14mr4183539qbm.1193325348335; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:45:48 +0530 From: S h i v Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> To: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=95iWML1/PswooZdXn/lq8N6IksZQ0IZWh9g3Rz5rtW4=; b=Z+rwLt8e7y7p3wcUUpejippFoSMnODNx4bJhnfpBnFWDVhCr7Y0c0jxhSiYR8DJbbQNdlOynGOJvl0GDgJ7jAipXPeFZLlvZZ95upISYwRK4iNhpLKehONJJLq/M4IL+wyMYbWc8cXcI63141I0AqIL9vFQowbf8zDjIIbiBoBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A56Jj7oDj1Y7kkCBu7kvUCYOTLmH6uRYCoPeQwYRG4k6+lRoLDzRQEw1PSAxEyTEUZQ0BwpBZameJsFDZONI2wMnKgCiKrQGyoKoyObE5GrTOMqQHpPfTJa2T165Ym1qtTMtBbS6doTgzS5bgzOO4m4taumb4kR1Nwptps5Sfqs= X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 723 On 10/25/07, Sebastien Roy wrote: > > I just saw PSARC/2007/619 (64-bit Tcl/Tk) fly by. Does expect have > 64-bit support, and does it come for free once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk > libraries exist? More generally, does that case affect this one? > It seems not to be an issue for Expect. Expect's code seems to be written in a fairly portable manner. I do not have first hand info. From the changlog(history) details, 64bit seems to be actively used by people. I also checked some of the rpm sources build contributions for 64bit on other linux platforms and the patches contributed, the one correction I saw specific to 64bit issue has already be taken care in an earlier version (5.39). regards Shiv From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Thu Oct 25 08:52:03 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9PFq3ru018401 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9PFmYNm025257 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQH00B1358YJU00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQH006AV58XFU80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9PFmXTp024323 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:48:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQH003014YUXJ00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQH009PQ58VMHG0@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:48:31 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: S h i v Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4720BACF.7060208@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 883 S h i v wrote: > On 10/25/07, Sebastien Roy wrote: >> I just saw PSARC/2007/619 (64-bit Tcl/Tk) fly by. Does expect have >> 64-bit support, and does it come for free once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk >> libraries exist? More generally, does that case affect this one? >> > > It seems not to be an issue for Expect. Expect's code seems to be > written in a fairly portable manner. I do not have first hand info. >>From the changlog(history) details, 64bit seems to be actively used by > people. I also checked some of the rpm sources build contributions for > 64bit on other linux platforms and the patches contributed, the one > correction I saw specific to 64bit issue has already be taken care in > an earlier version (5.39). More specifically, will there be an integration of 64-bit expect libraries and binaries once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk case has delivered? -Seb From shivakumar.gn@gmail.com Thu Oct 25 10:07:41 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9PH7fwo020691 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9PH4Cl6026403 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQH007038QZLZ00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQH001BP8QYN7C0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay18i.sun.com (ip128.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.128]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9PGvjTv002838 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp12es.sun.com ([160.41.209.22] [160.41.209.22]) by relay18i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-906340 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:10 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay16i.sun.com (relay16i.sun.com [129.179.4.126]) by mmp12es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-34497 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:10 +0000 (Z) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.179] [64.233.166.179]) by relay1ib.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-2759568 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:10 +0000 (Z) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so904958pyi for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.253.6 with SMTP id f6mr4329757qbs.1193331849563; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:34:09 +0530 From: S h i v Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <4720BACF.7060208@sun.com> To: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <319ee2b10710251004x19e60507p44c26c114e23a7a9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=dwaMuxAHZArbVc/KXrn3PjH4m+v3PvRkFynwkcPns2k=; b=AbKpFuLjD5RPNBImJPXQE7zOGxxbf9GYhxykL71sOA57Tsh4fuGG03Z7MHQFRD+43p5kGvMBeGiIFfQQoqVuhn4deB/0wUR6oznuhOK4RbV7vtV9sjA0kvMhVQXoCyKF4KXCesqEgtdtWZtW04IEfGWe/Q8fqIiryfsHOHs1WiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sUzSTSTuQveYj6pdAlt1A7KIo/BWu1rpWgrdPvMJsUdYVZdpAIs/y+uVr2RlvdwEPtrSL8RPtseb5UoAdchtOK+hJVqwjg/IrEZwigbANTCNgDYk76d+fqAo2yB5Aw85tEa6n/737IuVcMvKV6PQaH0eLVwU9v520243sdzt5M0= X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> <4720BACF.7060208@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 415 On 10/25/07, Sebastien Roy wrote: > > More specifically, will there be an integration of 64-bit expect > libraries and binaries once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk case has delivered? > No. Expect is used as a top level app. I am not aware of any application that uses libexpect and *require* it to be in 64bit and do not work otherwise (as is the case for the ARC case for 64bit Tcl/Tk). regards Shiv From Nicolas.Williams@sun.com Thu Oct 25 12:59:21 2007 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9PJxLCR024417 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9PJto3f025042; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQH0060HGP3NY00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from binky.Central.Sun.COM ([129.153.128.104]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQH006RPGP31R00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from binky.Central.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by binky.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9PJtoNe007992; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nw141292@localhost) by binky.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.1+Sun/8.14.1/Submit) id l9PJtoDD007991; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:50 -0500 From: Nicolas Williams Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <319ee2b10710251004x19e60507p44c26c114e23a7a9@mail.gmail.com> To: S h i v Cc: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <20071025195549.GH6776@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> <4720BACF.7060208@sun.com> <319ee2b10710251004x19e60507p44c26c114e23a7a9@mail.gmail.com> X-Authentication-warning: binky.Central.Sun.COM: nw141292 set sender to Nicolas.Williams@sun.com using -f User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i Status: RO Content-Length: 753 On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:34:09PM +0530, S h i v wrote: > On 10/25/07, Sebastien Roy wrote: > > More specifically, will there be an integration of 64-bit expect > > libraries and binaries once the 64-bit Tcl/Tk case has delivered? > > No. Expect is used as a top level app. I am not aware of any > application that uses libexpect and *require* it to be in 64bit and do > not work otherwise (as is the case for the ARC case for 64bit Tcl/Tk). But do we have to know of such an application before we'll ship a 64-bit version of some library? Isn't the point to enable development of 32- and 64-bit applications alike? If libexpect cannot be built as a 64-bit object that's one thing, but if it can, why not ship it? Nico -- From shivakumar.gn@gmail.com Thu Oct 25 19:45:03 2007 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9Q2j2Zv004081 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9Q2fXkp014202 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQH00G0DZH56W00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQH00GZTZH4WO90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay43i.sun.com ([192.5.209.74]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9Q2fS9Y001257 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:41:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mms49es.sun.com ([160.41.221.233] [160.41.221.233]) by relay43i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-2389487 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:41:28 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay43i.sun.com ([192.5.209.74] [192.5.209.74]) by mms49es.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-749403 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:41:28 +0000 (Z) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183] [64.233.166.183]) by relay4i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-37095290 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:41:28 +0000 (Z) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so1163922pyi for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.156.2 with SMTP id d2mr70330qbe.1193366487410; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:11:27 +0530 From: S h i v Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <20071025195549.GH6776@Sun.COM> To: Nicolas Williams , Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <319ee2b10710251941o276981beofd5776289a8b05ec@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6imrLVwceenfozvrGEENDyqtMWI4aeAS2Po89otbulA=; b=X/kusbdUoL6eKaK1vbx8VA761r5AksUaIjhmuDZ9IHLlQiicSPkqweLoCaQ08yohsqOiVhvPsEUcRXMENUh7E0JGRw2SDqyzdU+X4UStNzqxfywRCpimZXEvamuBKWkq4bE6zUCxJiEI6cex7u55mzB1GL37IUaYpSmWNRgcAcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j8zmdWiuTtsAeygOogbr9yx2YhOPJlBUoea3oE6CctSFnw8nwZEyfkRPc0oC6RNxesxhF8psNmBxsz5VQlP32haSizW2E+sdjIB/x0Lfp/Q2y6Z2z6lgD85Tba6GmAOii3sLQFSNbf1M8ac0j/auSCtLV0l/Cgl0zqYerCVg8Ww= X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> <471FB9D1.20005@sun.com> <319ee2b10710250815n32e4f084vafe478245a14480b@mail.gmail.com> <4720BACF.7060208@sun.com> <319ee2b10710251004x19e60507p44c26c114e23a7a9@mail.gmail.com> <20071025195549.GH6776@Sun.COM> Status: RO Content-Length: 1155 On 10/26/07, Nicolas Williams wrote: > > > > No. Expect is used as a top level app. I am not aware of any > > application that uses libexpect and *require* it to be in 64bit and do > > not work otherwise (as is the case for the ARC case for 64bit Tcl/Tk). > > But do we have to know of such an application before we'll ship a 64-bit > version of some library? Isn't the point to enable development of 32- > and 64-bit applications alike? If libexpect cannot be built as a 64-bit > object that's one thing, but if it can, why not ship it? > Just like any new interface has to establish a case to be introduced, even this would need to. Solaris 64-bit Developer's Guide [docs.sun.com : 816-5138] is clear about this: Conversion is necessary only if - the app needs more than 4GB of virtual address space - Uses a library that has only a 64-bit version - Is numeric computation intensive and needs 64-bit registers for performance reasons - ...couple of other points that are still farther for this case It goes on to say 32-bit apps that do not require 64-bit capabilities should remain 32-bit to maximize portability. -Shiv From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Tue Oct 30 14:04:39 2007 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9UL4cCl021391 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id l9UL10rs014418 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:04 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JQQ0040VT1QIV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JQQ00HIYT1Q7AD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9UL12Oe029256 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQQ00101RQ05I00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQQ0026OT1JY4G0@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:00:54 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: 2007/612 Expect 5.43 in SFW In-reply-to: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, S h i v , sfwnv-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <47279B86.7040509@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <471E3564.1040608@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) Status: RO Content-Length: 418 Sebastien Roy wrote: > I'm sponsoring this fast-track for Shivakumar GN and the SFW OpenSolaris > community. The timer for this case expires on 10/30/2007. The release > binding is Patch. This case was approved during last week's PSARC meeting. I don't believe the 64-bit Tcl/Tk case has any significant impact on this one. The project team can figure out the right thing to do wrt 64-bit on their own. -Seb