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From: Artem Kachitchkine <Artem.Kachitchkin@sun.com>
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I am sponsoring this fast track for Strony Zhang.
Requested binding is minor, timeout 02/07/2008.

-Artem

Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI
This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
     1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 Additional USB Device Properties
     1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Strony Zhang
     1.3  Date of This Document:
	31 January, 2008
4. Technical Description
4.1. Problem

The USB device properties presently provided by the kernel USBA
framework, such as usb-product-id, usb-vendor-id, low-speed, etc,
are not sufficient to address the needs of the upcoming functionality
in HAL and OpenUSB.

4.2. Proposal

We propose to add the following properties for USB device nodes:

Name: high-speed
Type: boolean
Description: If present, indicates that the USB device is high speed.

Name: usb-port-count
Type: integer
Description: Indicates how many ports a USB hub has. Only applies
to USB hub devices.

Name: usb-dev-descriptor
Type: byte array
Description: Contains the USB device descriptor. This property is
18 bytes long.

Name: usb-raw-cfg-descriptors
Type: byte array
Description: Contains the USB configuration descriptor (length 9)
followed by all descriptors beneath the configuration descriptor.
In general, it includes the interface descriptor (length 9) and
endpoint descriptor (length 7). The other type of descriptors are
also included if they exist in device hardware. The total length
of this property depends on device.

4.3. Interfaces

Interface               | Stability | Comments
------------------------+-----------+--------------------------
high-speed              | Committed | device property
usb-port-count          | Committed | device property
usb-dev-descriptor      | Committed | device property
usb-raw-cfg-descriptors | Committed | device property
------------------------+-----------+--------------------------

Binding: minor

4.4. References

PSARC/1998/111 Universal Serial Bus Framework Support
PSARC/2000/454 USB configuration selection
Universal Serial Bus Specification, 2.0


6. Resources and Schedule
     6.4. Steering Committee requested information
    	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		ON
     6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
     6.6. ARC Exposure: open

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Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/069 Additional USB Device Properties
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one comment.
a boolean "high-speed" property makes sense when there are only
two speeds available (ie, use 1.0 and usb 2.0) but i keep hearing
about usb 3.x compared with the next version of firewire, etc.
perhaps something more future proof would make sense for a committed
interfaces?
ed
ps - i have intermittent internet access now and may not respond to
     any replies in a timely manner, so please just treat this as
     food for thought and don't let my comments hold up the timer for
     this proposal.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 10:35:33AM -0800, Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
> I am sponsoring this fast track for Strony Zhang.
> Requested binding is minor, timeout 02/07/2008.
>
> -Artem
>
> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI
> This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems
> 1. Introduction
>      1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
> 	 Additional USB Device Properties
>      1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
> 	 Author:  Strony Zhang
>      1.3  Date of This Document:
> 	31 January, 2008
> 4. Technical Description
> 4.1. Problem
>
> The USB device properties presently provided by the kernel USBA
> framework, such as usb-product-id, usb-vendor-id, low-speed, etc,
> are not sufficient to address the needs of the upcoming functionality
> in HAL and OpenUSB.
>
> 4.2. Proposal
>
> We propose to add the following properties for USB device nodes:
>
> Name: high-speed
> Type: boolean
> Description: If present, indicates that the USB device is high speed.
>
> Name: usb-port-count
> Type: integer
> Description: Indicates how many ports a USB hub has. Only applies
> to USB hub devices.
>
> Name: usb-dev-descriptor
> Type: byte array
> Description: Contains the USB device descriptor. This property is
> 18 bytes long.
>
> Name: usb-raw-cfg-descriptors
> Type: byte array
> Description: Contains the USB configuration descriptor (length 9)
> followed by all descriptors beneath the configuration descriptor.
> In general, it includes the interface descriptor (length 9) and
> endpoint descriptor (length 7). The other type of descriptors are
> also included if they exist in device hardware. The total length
> of this property depends on device.
>
> 4.3. Interfaces
>
> Interface               | Stability | Comments
> ------------------------+-----------+--------------------------
> high-speed              | Committed | device property
> usb-port-count          | Committed | device property
> usb-dev-descriptor      | Committed | device property
> usb-raw-cfg-descriptors | Committed | device property
> ------------------------+-----------+--------------------------
>
> Binding: minor
>
> 4.4. References
>
> PSARC/1998/111 Universal Serial Bus Framework Support
> PSARC/2000/454 USB configuration selection
> Universal Serial Bus Specification, 2.0
>
>
> 6. Resources and Schedule
>      6.4. Steering Committee requested information
>     	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
> 		ON
>      6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
>      6.6. ARC Exposure: open
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From Darren.Moffat@sun.com Tue Feb  5 04:51:50 2008
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Edward Pilatowicz wrote:
> one comment.
> a boolean "high-speed" property makes sense when there are only
> two speeds available (ie, use 1.0 and usb 2.0) but i keep hearing
> about usb 3.x compared with the next version of firewire, etc.
> perhaps something more future proof would make sense for a committed
> interfaces?

I was initially going to send a very similar comment then I remembered 
that "high-speed" is actually USB terminology in common use.

IMO it wasn't forward thinking terminology for considering future faster 
(even-higher-speed then no-really-we-mean-it-this-time-high-speed) but 
looked great for marketing.  Since it is in very common use when talking 
about USB devices I suspect is is probably a reasonable choice here 
(sadly) and hope that the usb 3.x spec produced a better term than 
"even-higher-speed".

-- 
Darren J Moffat

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> I was initially going to send a very similar comment then I remembered 
> that "high-speed" is actually USB terminology in common use.
> 
> IMO it wasn't forward thinking terminology for considering future faster 
> (even-higher-speed then no-really-we-mean-it-this-time-high-speed) but 
> looked great for marketing.  Since it is in very common use when talking 
> about USB devices I suspect is is probably a reasonable choice here 
> (sadly) and hope that the usb 3.x spec produced a better term than 
> "even-higher-speed".

Correct:

1.5 Mbit/s is Low-Speed
12 Mbit/s is Full-Speed
480 Mbit/s is Hi-Speed

Rumor has it, the USB 3.0 mode will be called "SuperSpeed".

-Artem

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Artem Kachitchkine <Artem.Kachitchkin@sun.com> wrote:

> 1.5 Mbit/s is Low-Speed
> 12 Mbit/s is Full-Speed
> 480 Mbit/s is Hi-Speed
>
> Rumor has it, the USB 3.0 mode will be called "SuperSpeed".

Then I would guess that USB-4.0 mode will be called "UltraSparc" ;-)

Jörg

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Case is approved.

-Artem

