From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Feb 12 17:11:51 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1D1Borr005006 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1D1BmjM024734 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:11:49 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW500K07KNOZV00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW500ICWKNNCI90@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1D1Bl6e025010 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW500I01KMTFS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.6] ([24.10.86.139]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW5003PEKNM5I50@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:29 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: psarc-ext@sun.com Cc: Dermot McCluskey Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rWXKmB/DW+YYxF7Ql7zi8A)" X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070622) Status: RO Content-Length: 5033 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_rWXKmB/DW+YYxF7Ql7zi8A) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PSARC, I am sponsoring this fast track for Dermot McCluskey of the JDS team in Dublin, Ireland. The case directory contains this proposal. I have set the timer for Wednesday, February 20th, 2008. This project introduces the Python Imaging Library (PIL) which provides image processing capabilities for Python environments. The project is requesting a Minor release of Solaris. The interfaces being introduced are being declared Uncommitted. These all depend upon Python which was declared External. I am working on the contract for the interface in parallel with this fast track. Thanks, John --Boundary_(ID_rWXKmB/DW+YYxF7Ql7zi8A) Content-type: text/plain; name=proposal.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=proposal.txt 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Python Imaging Library (PIL) 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Dermot McCluskey 1.3. Date of This Document: 02/06/08 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: 11/08/07 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: Solaris PAC 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: PSARC 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: robert.odea@sun.com 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: OPG / OpenSource. 1.5. Email Aliases: 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: tom.garland@sun.com 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: darren.kenny@sun.com 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: dan.roberts@sun.com 1.5.4. Interest List: desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org 4. Technical Description: 4.1. Details: Python Imaging Library (PIL) provides image processing capabilities for Python environments. It allows numerous imaging-related operations to be performed from within Python scripts (for example, you could load an image from a file, crop it, flip it, convert to grayscale and save the resulting image in a different format). PIL provides support for numerous graphical file formats with varying degrees of support: Identify Only, Read Only or Read-Write. The full list of supported formats is: ARG BMP BUFR CUR DCX EPS FITS FLI FPX GBR GIF GRIB HDF5 ICNS ICO IM IMT IPTC JPEG MCIDAS MIC MPEG MSP PCD PCX PIXAR PNG PPM PSD SGI SPIDER SUN TGA TIFF WMF XBM XPM XVTHUMB Support is also provided for Tkinter (Python interface to Tk) image formats. PIL is delivered as a set of Python modules installed in /usr/lib/python2.4/vendor-packages/PIL. There are also demo scripts to be installed in /usr/demo and HTML-format documentation. This proposal integrates version 1.1.6 of PIL. 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): None. 4.3. In Scope: See above. 4.4. Out of Scope: The ImageGrab module, for doing screen grabs, does not work on Unix. 4.5. Interfaces: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Exported Stability Comments -------------------------------------------------------------------- SUNWpython-imaging Uncommitted Package name Image Uncommitted Python module ImageChops Uncommitted Python module ImageColor Uncommitted Python module ImageDraw Uncommitted Python module ImageEnhance Uncommitted Python module ImageFile Uncommitted Python module ImageFileIO Uncommitted Python module ImageFilter Uncommitted Python module ImageFont Uncommitted Python module ImageGrab Uncommitted Python module ImageMath Uncommitted Python module ImageOps Uncommitted Python module ImagePalette Uncommitted Python module ImagePath Uncommitted Python module ImageQt Uncommitted Python module ImageSequence Uncommitted Python module ImageStat Uncommitted Python module ImageTk Uncommitted Python module ImageWin Uncommitted Python module PSDraw Uncommitted Python module -------------------------------------------------------------------- Imported Stability Comments -------------------------------------------------------------------- python Contracted External libjpeg Evolving libz Contracted Volatile libtcl Uncommitted libtk Uncommitted 4.6. Doc Impact: HTML format handbook included. 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: None. 4.8. HA Impact: None. 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: None. 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: Adds new package, SUNWpython-imaging, approx 1.8 MB. Package will go into SUNWCall, SUNWCXall and SUNWCprog clusters. 4.11. Security Impact: None. 4.12. Dependencies: No specific versions of the imported interfaces are specified. 5. Reference Documents: Online documentation: http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/index.htm LSARC/2003/085, libtiff, libjpeg and libpng PSARC/2006/537, Solaris libz (zlib) upgrade to 1.2.3 PSARC/2007/317, Tcl/Tk upgrade to 8.4.14 --Boundary_(ID_rWXKmB/DW+YYxF7Ql7zi8A)-- From sacadmin Tue Feb 12 17:05:13 2008 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1D15Cc8004904; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from johnf@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m1D15C4V004900; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:05:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:05:12 -0800 (PST) From: John Fischer Message-Id: <200802130105.m1D15C4V004900@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: PSARC-record@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Python Imaging Library (PIL) [PSARC/2008/102 FastTrack timeout 02/20/2008] Status: RO Content-Length: 578 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Python Imaging Library (PIL) 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Dermot McCluskey 1.3 Date of This Document: 12 February, 2008 4. Technical Description See the case directory for more detail 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: JDS - Gnome 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com Tue Feb 12 17:35:38 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1D1Zccv006293 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1D1ZcBw025934 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW500001LREKJ00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW5000AILRD0H00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1D1Zbne026556 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW500901LNNPM00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.108.211] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW50021DLRCLDC0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:36 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> Sender: Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Dermot McCluskey Message-id: <47B24968.7080807@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071203) Status: RO Content-Length: 791 John Fischer wrote: > This project introduces the Python Imaging Library (PIL) which provides > image processing capabilities for Python environments. The project > is requesting a Minor release of Solaris. The interfaces being > introduced are being declared Uncommitted. These all depend upon > Python which was declared External. I am working on the contract > for the interface in parallel with this fast track. Given that Python will be the foundation upon which Solaris packaging (IPS) and source code management (mercurial) are likely to be based in the future, wouldn't it be better to work on a fasttrack to raise its stability instead of yet another contract? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Feb 12 18:43:45 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1D2hij0010860 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1D2hcEV005390 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:43:43 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW500001OWUJZ00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW50000EOWTJH00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1D2hfxF029731 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW500B01OS7AZ00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.6] ([24.10.86.139]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW500LDAOWSOCE0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:23 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <47B24968.7080807@sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Dermot McCluskey Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <47B2594B.3030108@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> <47B24968.7080807@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070622) Status: RO Content-Length: 887 Alan, That sounds reasonable. I'll talk with the maintainer. We'll either have a follow up case to raise the stability or a contract will be signed. Thanks, John Alan Coopersmith wrote: > John Fischer wrote: >> This project introduces the Python Imaging Library (PIL) which provides >> image processing capabilities for Python environments. The project >> is requesting a Minor release of Solaris. The interfaces being >> introduced are being declared Uncommitted. These all depend upon >> Python which was declared External. I am working on the contract >> for the interface in parallel with this fast track. > > Given that Python will be the foundation upon which Solaris packaging (IPS) > and source code management (mercurial) are likely to be based in the future, > wouldn't it be better to work on a fasttrack to raise its stability instead > of yet another contract? > From danek.duvall@sun.com Wed Feb 13 11:32:29 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1DJWTep006288 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1DJWSkF021027 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:32:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW60000TZM36100@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:32:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW600FZHZM2SUD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:32:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1DJWPFi028128; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1DJWOrR000614; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1DJWO1Z000613; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:32:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:32:24 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> To: John Fischer Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Dermot McCluskey Message-id: <20080213193224.GN22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 267 On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 05:11:29PM -0800, John Fischer wrote: > Image Uncommitted Python module > ImageChops Uncommitted Python module > [ ... ] These are all prefixed with "PIL.", right? That is, "PIL.Image", etc, are the full module names? Thanks, Danek From Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com Thu Feb 14 03:51:09 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1EBp8x0003566 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1EBp50S023125 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:51:07 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW800K0R8X6ZB00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW8009ZI8X4SDA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1EBp4jG016834 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:51:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW800C018N3AI00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Dermot.McCluskey@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:51:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.226.130] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW800M3M8WX2PE0@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:50:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:50:57 +0000 From: Dermot McCluskey Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <20080213193224.GN22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext@sun.com Reply-to: Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com Message-id: <47B42B21.9050306@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> <20080213193224.GN22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071023) Status: RO Content-Length: 750 Danek Duvall wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 05:11:29PM -0800, John Fischer wrote: > >> Image Uncommitted Python module >> ImageChops Uncommitted Python module >> [ ... ] > > These are all prefixed with "PIL.", right? That is, "PIL.Image", etc, are > the full module names? PIL is a package (with an empty module body) and Image, ImageChops, etc are modules within that package. The project docs refer to the modules only as Image, etc (not PIL.Image). A PIL.pth file is installed so users can simply use "import Image", etc, but, of course, "from PIL import Image" and "import PIL.Image" also work. If PIL.Image is the preferred form, or is considered clearer, I'm happy to change the interface table to show this? Thanks, - Dermot From danek.duvall@sun.com Thu Feb 14 09:16:55 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1EHGsqI014657 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1EHGmhQ029312 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@Sun.COM>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:16:53 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW80070BO04DN00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW8003Z3O047O90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (zruty.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.168.40]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1EHGpiG003274; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from zruty.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1EHGpFt012457; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dduvall@localhost) by zruty.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m1EHGpM5012456; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:16:50 -0800 From: Danek Duvall Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <47B42B21.9050306@Sun.COM> To: Dermot McCluskey Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20080214171650.GV22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> <20080213193224.GN22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B42B21.9050306@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-27) Status: RO Content-Length: 1051 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:50:57AM +0000, Dermot McCluskey wrote: > PIL is a package (with an empty module body) and Image, ImageChops, etc > are modules within that package. > > The project docs refer to the modules only as Image, etc (not PIL.Image). > A PIL.pth file is installed so users can simply use "import Image", etc, > but, of course, "from PIL import Image" and "import PIL.Image" also work. > > If PIL.Image is the preferred form, or is considered clearer, I'm happy > to change the interface table to show this? What it should show is the names necessary to import the modules if the developer hasn't modified $PYTHONPATH or sys.path. I guess with the .pth file, then it's correct as it is, though I question the wisdom of delivering the .pth file in the first place. There's the required one to add vendor-packages in the first place, and pygtk seems to have delivered one, but why not one for all the other things in vendor-packages? Is there any rhyme or reason to which modules get their own .pth files, and which don't? Danek From Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com Thu Feb 14 09:39:00 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1EHcxDI014973 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1EHctab008963 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:58 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JW800C0FP0X4500@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:38:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JW8002PMP0WZM80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:38:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1EHcuGW028897 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW800401OVRJU00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Dermot.McCluskey@Sun.COM) for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.226.130] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW800HFAP0L8U40@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:45 +0000 From: Dermot McCluskey Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <20080214171650.GV22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com To: Danek Duvall Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext@sun.com Reply-to: Dermot.McCluskey@sun.com Message-id: <47B47CA5.7000003@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> <20080213193224.GN22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> <47B42B21.9050306@Sun.COM> <20080214171650.GV22027@zruty.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071023) Status: RO Content-Length: 778 Danek Duvall wrote: > > What it should show is the names necessary to import the modules if the > developer hasn't modified $PYTHONPATH or sys.path. I guess with the .pth > file, then it's correct as it is, though I question the wisdom of > delivering the .pth file in the first place. There's the required one to > add vendor-packages in the first place, and pygtk seems to have delivered > one, but why not one for all the other things in vendor-packages? Is there > any rhyme or reason to which modules get their own .pth files, and which > don't? None that I know of, but in this case it will be expected. Also, I see that 2 other proposed, or soon-to-be proposed, packages deliver .pth files, pygst and zope-interface, so perhaps it's becoming more common? - Dermot From John.Fischer@sun.com Wed Feb 20 16:24:52 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1L0Opl6018053 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m1L0OMp5017581 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:24:50 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0JWK00H03BTCUX00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JWK00DH3BTBSK60@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1L0Ol38019460 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:24:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JWK00J01BNJ4E00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from John.Fischer@Sun.COM) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from 129.145.154.84 ([129.145.154.84]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JWK006FVBTAHBE0@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:24:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:46 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2008/102 - Python Imaging Library (PIL) In-reply-to: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: psarc-ext@sun.com Cc: John Fischer , Dermot McCluskey Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <1203553485.63061.293.camel@sr1-umpk-34> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.301c Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 References: <47B243C1.2040905@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 5165 Dermot, This case was approved during PSARC's open business today. Thanks, John On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 17:11, John Fischer wrote: > PSARC, > > I am sponsoring this fast track for Dermot McCluskey of the JDS > team in Dublin, Ireland. The case directory contains this proposal. > I have set the timer for Wednesday, February 20th, 2008. > > This project introduces the Python Imaging Library (PIL) which provides > image processing capabilities for Python environments. The project > is requesting a Minor release of Solaris. The interfaces being > introduced are being declared Uncommitted. These all depend upon > Python which was declared External. I am working on the contract > for the interface in parallel with this fast track. > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Python Imaging Library (PIL) > > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Dermot McCluskey > > 1.3. Date of This Document: > 02/06/08 > > 1.3.1. Date this project was conceived: > 11/08/07 > > 1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s): > 1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project: > Solaris PAC > 1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project: > PSARC > 1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project: > robert.odea@sun.com > 1.4.4. The name of your business unit: > OPG / OpenSource. > > 1.5. Email Aliases: > 1.5.1. Responsible Manager: > tom.garland@sun.com > 1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: > darren.kenny@sun.com > 1.5.3. Marketing Manager: > dan.roberts@sun.com > 1.5.4. Interest List: > desktop-discuss@opensolaris.org > > 4. Technical Description: > 4.1. Details: > Python Imaging Library (PIL) provides image processing > capabilities for Python environments. It allows numerous > imaging-related operations to be performed from within Python > scripts (for example, you could load an image from a file, > crop it, flip it, convert to grayscale and save the > resulting image in a different format). > > PIL provides support for numerous graphical file formats > with varying degrees of support: Identify Only, Read > Only or Read-Write. The full list of supported formats is: > ARG BMP BUFR CUR DCX EPS FITS FLI FPX GBR GIF GRIB HDF5 ICNS > ICO IM IMT IPTC JPEG MCIDAS MIC MPEG MSP PCD PCX PIXAR PNG > PPM PSD SGI SPIDER SUN TGA TIFF WMF XBM XPM XVTHUMB > > Support is also provided for Tkinter (Python interface to Tk) > image formats. > > PIL is delivered as a set of Python modules installed in > /usr/lib/python2.4/vendor-packages/PIL. There are also > demo scripts to be installed in /usr/demo and > HTML-format documentation. > > This proposal integrates version 1.1.6 of PIL. > > > 4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s): > None. > > 4.3. In Scope: > See above. > > 4.4. Out of Scope: > The ImageGrab module, for doing screen grabs, does not work on Unix. > > 4.5. Interfaces: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Exported Stability Comments > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SUNWpython-imaging Uncommitted Package name > Image Uncommitted Python module > ImageChops Uncommitted Python module > ImageColor Uncommitted Python module > ImageDraw Uncommitted Python module > ImageEnhance Uncommitted Python module > ImageFile Uncommitted Python module > ImageFileIO Uncommitted Python module > ImageFilter Uncommitted Python module > ImageFont Uncommitted Python module > ImageGrab Uncommitted Python module > ImageMath Uncommitted Python module > ImageOps Uncommitted Python module > ImagePalette Uncommitted Python module > ImagePath Uncommitted Python module > ImageQt Uncommitted Python module > ImageSequence Uncommitted Python module > ImageStat Uncommitted Python module > ImageTk Uncommitted Python module > ImageWin Uncommitted Python module > PSDraw Uncommitted Python module > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Imported Stability Comments > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > python Contracted > External > libjpeg Evolving > libz Contracted > Volatile > libtcl Uncommitted > libtk Uncommitted > > > 4.6. Doc Impact: > HTML format handbook included. > > 4.7. Admin/Config Impact: > None. > > 4.8. HA Impact: > None. > > 4.9. I18N/L10N Impact: > None. > > 4.10. Packaging & Delivery: > Adds new package, SUNWpython-imaging, approx 1.8 MB. > Package will go into SUNWCall, SUNWCXall and SUNWCprog clusters. > > 4.11. Security Impact: > None. > > 4.12. Dependencies: > No specific versions of the imported interfaces are specified. > > 5. Reference Documents: > Online documentation: http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/index.htm > LSARC/2003/085, libtiff, libjpeg and libpng > PSARC/2006/537, Solaris libz (zlib) upgrade to 1.2.3 > PSARC/2007/317, Tcl/Tk upgrade to 8.4.14