From Tim.Haley@sun.com Tue Sep 23 21:46:45 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8O4kjFm028328 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8O4kilv001426 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7O00B03NXWU200@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-central-02.central.sun.com ([129.147.62.5]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7O00732NXVWUD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spidey.Central.Sun.COM (spidey.Central.Sun.COM [172.20.25.27]) by dm-central-02.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8O4kgeQ029141; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from spidey.Central.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spidey.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m8O4jctB005655; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from timh@localhost) by spidey.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id m8O4jcpH005653; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:45:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Haley Subject: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Achut.Reddy@sun.com, Jatin.Jhala@sun.com Message-id: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 4515 I am sponsoring the following case on behalf of Achut Reddy. The case proposes to add the open source 'pconsole' command to Solaris/OpenSolaris. Requested binding is micro/patch. Timeout is 9/30/2008. Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase %I% %G% SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: pconsole - parallel console 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Achut Reddy 1.3 Date of This Document: 23 September, 2008 4. Technical Description pconsole - parallel console. Allows user to create multiple shell console windows; typically one for each node of the cluster. There is an existing open source implementation of pconsole here: http://www.heiho.net/pconsole/ This project is simply to port it to OpenSolaris and have it be delivered into the SFW repository. The porting effort is expected to be minimal. 4.5. Interfaces: Files: /usr/bin/pconsole-bin /usr/bin/pconsole Environment variables: P_TERM, P_TERM_OPTIONS, P_CONNECT_CMD 4.6. Doc Impact: Proposed new man page: ----8<---------------------------------- User Commands pconsole(1) NAME pconsole - parallel console SYNOPSIS pconsole [host[:port]]... DESCRIPTION The pconsole utility creates a host terminal window for each remote host specified on the command line, and a special "central" console window that 'multiplies' the input to each of the connections you have opened. pconsole is best run from within X Windows, although it is possible to employ it without X (in console mode) as well. You need to install pconsole on only one machine in the cluster. This would usually be your central administrative node. If you have a serial port multiplexer that allows you to connect to specific port numbers on the IP address of the multiplexer, you can specify the port number in addition to the the host- name or IP address as ':'. COMMANDS pconsole supports the following commands in the central con- sole window: Enter command mode. ? or help Print a list of available commands. version Display version information. echo Turn echo on or off. attach Attach to a tty device. detach Detach from a tty device. list Show devices currently attached to. connect Leave command mode. quit or exit Exit pconsole. EXIT STATUS The following exit values are returned: 0 Successful completion. 1 An error occurred. ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES P_TERM pconsole uses xterm(1) by default to create a win- dow to the remote system. Another command can be specified by setting the environment variable P_TERM to the chosen command. P_TERM_OPTIONS pconsole uses the options "-geometry 80x24 -fn 10x20" by default to pass to the command specified by P_TERM (or xterm(1) if P_TERM is unspecified). Different option can be specified by setting the environment variable P_TERM_OPTIONS to the chosen options. P_CONNECT_CMD By default, pconsole uses ssh(1) to make connec- tions. A different command (such as rlogin(1)) can be used by setting the environment variable P_CONNECT_CMD to the chosen command. ATTRIBUTES See attributes(5) for descriptions of the following attri- butes: _______________________________________________ | ATTRIBUTE TYPE | ATTRIBUTE VALUE | |________________________|_____________________| | Availability | SUNWpconsole | |________________________|_____________________| | Interface Stability | Uncommitted | |________________________|_____________________| SEE ALSO rlogin(1), ssh(1), xterm(1) ----8<---------------------------------- 4.12. Dependencies: depends on: xterm ssh rlogin ps 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: SFW 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From roehrich@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM Wed Sep 24 07:34:57 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OEYvZq011959 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OEYqlU022477; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00L0RF67YR00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-central-01.central.sun.com ([129.147.62.4]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P007KTF676JC0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM [10.1.170.217]) by dm-central-01.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OEYs45006789; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m8OERPV6013975; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from roehrich@localhost) by kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m8OEROhp013974; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:27:24 -0500 From: Dean Roehrich Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> To: Tim Haley Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Achut.Reddy@sun.com, Jatin.Jhala@sun.com Message-id: <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Status: RO Content-Length: 507 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:45:38PM -0600, Tim Haley wrote: > 4. Technical Description > > pconsole - parallel console. > Allows user to create multiple shell console windows; > typically one for each node of the cluster. > > There is an existing open source implementation of pconsole here: > > http://www.heiho.net/pconsole/ What is the relationship between this and the 'ctelnet' that is discussed at http://ssc.west.sun.com/Internals/sysadmin_brc.html ? They sound identical. Dean From John.Plocher@sun.com Wed Sep 24 10:04:08 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OH48R8019695 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OH47Sw000536; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00J0JM2UW200@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P00I9SM2TCC30@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OH45gH014837; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00401LIZ4100@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P0034SM2SF000@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:03:59 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> Sender: John.Plocher@sun.com To: Dean Roehrich Cc: Tim Haley , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, Achut.Reddy@sun.com Message-id: <48DA72FF.2070601@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) Status: RO Content-Length: 1236 As one of the motley crewe* who produced ctelnet and friends for the SPARCcluster1 in 1993-ish, I had the same questions :-) cconsole/ctelnet/crsh... don't have the "main window commands" that pconsole does, but they *did* have an understanding of a cluster nameservice (files, nis...) that expanded a cluster name into a list of hosts: ctelnet clustername Without looking at the sources, I would guess that there is a common ancestor (or at least meme) out there - it all sounds way to familiar! -John ____ [*] IIRC, Larry McVoy hacked up the original... Dean Roehrich wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:45:38PM -0600, Tim Haley wrote: >> 4. Technical Description >> >> pconsole - parallel console. >> Allows user to create multiple shell console windows; >> typically one for each node of the cluster. >> >> There is an existing open source implementation of pconsole here: >> >> http://www.heiho.net/pconsole/ > > What is the relationship between this and the 'ctelnet' that is > discussed at http://ssc.west.sun.com/Internals/sysadmin_brc.html ? > > They sound identical. > > Dean > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-arc mailing list > opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org From Achut.Reddy@sun.com Wed Sep 24 12:32:59 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OJWxls024320 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OJWweR051935; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00I0DSYWRY00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P00CY9SYVG330@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OJWtoT015542; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00M01SS6EF00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Achut.Reddy@Sun.COM); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.16.182] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P00JNXSYTR290@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32:52 -0700 From: achut reddy Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> Sender: Achut.Reddy@sun.com To: Dean Roehrich Cc: Tim Haley , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Jatin.Jhala@sun.com Message-id: <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Status: RO Content-Length: 2104 All, cconsole/crlogin/ctelnet/cssh (all links to the same binary) is a tool we are currently shipping as part of SunCluster. The package that contains it is SUNWccon (and localized variants). We have been shipping this utility for years. It is more or less functionally equivalent to pconsole, with minor differences. However, our field people insist that our customers prefer pconsole (because it is more widespread and they are familiar with it). So basically we are giving the customers what they want. pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, although both will coexist for a time. Our expectation is that we will eventually EOL cconsole and leave only pconsole. Here is a quick summary of the differences between cconsole and pconsole. - pedigree: cconsole was an internal utility used by our field people, and eventually packaged into the product. Looks it originally came from the utility that John Plocher had worked on for SPARCcluster1 . pconsole came from the OS community. - cconsole knows specifically about clusters, and uses the config files /etc/clusters and /etc/serialports. pconsole uses no config files and is not specific to clusters. - cconsole uses name of the binary link to determine connection method (ctelnet vs crlogin, etc) pconsole uses an enviroment variable for this purpose. - cconsole has no "command mode" other than a couple of escape sequences pconsole has a command mode that allows attach/detach as well as other commands. Hope this helps, Achut Dean Roehrich wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:45:38PM -0600, Tim Haley wrote: > >> 4. Technical Description >> >> pconsole - parallel console. >> Allows user to create multiple shell console windows; >> typically one for each node of the cluster. >> >> There is an existing open source implementation of pconsole here: >> >> http://www.heiho.net/pconsole/ >> > > What is the relationship between this and the 'ctelnet' that is > discussed at http://ssc.west.sun.com/Internals/sysadmin_brc.html ? > > They sound identical. > > Dean > From John.Plocher@sun.com Wed Sep 24 13:24:55 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OKOsFV026697 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OKOqkJ020338; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00107VDF5R00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P00C03VDEFX70@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OKOoLf013868; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00H01V561C00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P00CT4VD9XWF0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:40 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> Sender: John.Plocher@sun.com To: achut reddy Cc: Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, Tim Haley Message-id: <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) Status: RO Content-Length: 427 achut reddy wrote: > pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, > although both will > coexist for a time. The larger context is useful, thanks! It sounds like this case could easily be re-spec'd to Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete Introduce pconsole as a functional replacement Specify the interface taxonomy details of the new pconsole command (including any "Volatile/Private, keep off the grass" aspects) -John From tim.haley@Sun.COM Wed Sep 24 13:53:22 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OKrLsc027772 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OKrEiU001183 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00511WOTIK00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P002W1WOS7F80@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OKrGeL006733 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:53:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00101U3AK100@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from tim.haley@sun.com) for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.25.27] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P000KLWO9T040@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:51:53 -0600 From: Tim Haley Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> Sender: Timothy.Haley@Sun.COM To: John Plocher Cc: achut reddy , Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@Sun.COM, PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <48DAA869.6000709@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080825) Status: RO Content-Length: 907 John Plocher wrote: > achut reddy wrote: >> pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, although both will >> coexist for a time. > > > The larger context is useful, thanks! > > It sounds like this case could easily be re-spec'd to > > Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete > That would mean what exactly? Don't count on these command being around forever? All I'm getting at is, does this force any behavior regarding cconsole and friends for the project team at this time? > Introduce pconsole as a functional replacement > > Specify the interface taxonomy details of the new pconsole command > (including any "Volatile/Private, keep off the grass" aspects) > I declared this 'Uncommitted' in keeping with what I've observed of most if not all of the open source ports I've been seeing coming in. That's only in the man page, I should probably add it to the interfaces section. > -John -tim From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Wed Sep 24 14:02:05 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OL24qx028253 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OL1wb8018124; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P0050DX3FUS00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com ([129.148.174.143]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P002ZNX3E7F90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m8OL22Mr018679; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id m8OL22vp018676; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:02 -0400 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAA869.6000709@sun.com> To: Tim Haley Cc: John Plocher , Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, achut reddy , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <18650.43722.426364.957570@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> <48DAA869.6000709@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 791 Tim Haley writes: > > Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete > > > That would mean what exactly? Don't count on these command being around > forever? All I'm getting at is, does this force any behavior regarding > cconsole and friends for the project team at this time? It means: - we owe customers some sort of "learn to use pconsole, not cconsole" notice of obsolescence. - new projects can't rely on cconsole (not that they ever did). - any project team proposing to modify cconsole and friends will be asked "so, why again are you doing this?" -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From John.Plocher@sun.com Wed Sep 24 14:24:12 2008 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OLOBfp028491 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OLO6Sc027461; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:24:10 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00709Y47F400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P00CKCY47FXA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OLO7E1022211; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00K01XUBBN00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from John.Plocher@Sun.COM); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp668.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.226.219]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P003TWY3YOL60@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:23:53 -0700 From: John Plocher Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAA869.6000709@sun.com> Sender: John.Plocher@sun.com To: Tim Haley Cc: achut reddy , Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <48DAAFE9.5000403@Sun.Com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> <48DAA869.6000709@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) Status: RO Content-Length: 1185 Tim Haley wrote: > John Plocher wrote: >> achut reddy wrote: >>> pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, although both will >>> coexist for a time. >> >> >> The larger context is useful, thanks! >> >> It sounds like this case could easily be re-spec'd to >> >> Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete >> > That would mean what exactly? Don't count on these command being around > forever? All I'm getting at is, does this force any behavior regarding > cconsole and friends for the project team at this time? It means "New projects should not consume this interface". Combined with the pconsole case, the message is "use pconsole instead". (duh :-) A followon case is needed to do the "remove cconsole etc from the consolidation" bit. > >> Introduce pconsole as a functional replacement >> >> Specify the interface taxonomy details of the new pconsole command >> (including any "Volatile/Private, keep off the grass" aspects) >> > I declared this 'Uncommitted' in keeping with what I've observed of most > if not all of the open source ports I've been seeing coming in. That's > only in the man page, I should probably add it to the interfaces section. OK by me. -John From Achut.Reddy@sun.com Wed Sep 24 14:25:28 2008 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8OLPSL2028505 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8OLPRpE025500; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7P00705Y6FLH00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7P00C1ZY6EG4A0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8OLPQ65029754; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7P00K01XUBBN00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Achut.Reddy@Sun.COM); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([24.5.75.37]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7P003BKY6AOL70@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:25:22 -0700 From: achut reddy Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> Sender: Achut.Reddy@sun.com To: John Plocher Cc: Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, Tim Haley Message-id: <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Status: RO Content-Length: 765 Except I would rather not tie the two together at this time, unless this is required by PSARC. While I believe it is likely that cconsole may be obsoleted, that decision has NOT actually been made by our PAC. It is at least conceivable that both could continue to coexist for some time. Achut John Plocher wrote: > achut reddy wrote: >> pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, although both will >> coexist for a time. > > > The larger context is useful, thanks! > > It sounds like this case could easily be re-spec'd to > > Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete > > Introduce pconsole as a functional replacement > > Specify the interface taxonomy details of the new pconsole command > (including any "Volatile/Private, keep off the grass" aspects) > > -John From gdamore@sun.com Wed Sep 24 16:52:12 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8ONqCRw002349 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8ONqCjc016720; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7Q00F034Z08400@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7Q000NV4YZVIC0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8ONqBIA016511; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7Q005014N9ID00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from gdamore@sun.com) ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.251.172] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7Q00FAY4YVYKD0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:49:56 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: achut reddy Cc: John Plocher , Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, Tim Haley Message-id: <48DAD224.6000303@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080616) Status: RO Content-Length: 1357 achut reddy wrote: > Except I would rather not tie the two together at this time, > unless this is required by PSARC. > > While I believe it is likely that cconsole may be obsoleted, > that decision has NOT actually been made by our PAC. > It is at least conceivable that both could continue to coexist > for some time. Marking cconsole Obsolete doesn't mean that we can't deliver it forever more. It just means that folks looking to use it should instead be looking at pconsole (which can be documented in man pages.) My "preference" is to Obsolete the older one unless it provides clear functionality that pconsole lacks (or there is some other reason that people using cconsole shouldn't switch to pconsole.) However, *I* certainly don't have the strength of conviction behind this to do more than make it a polite suggestion. -- Garrett > > Achut > > John Plocher wrote: >> achut reddy wrote: >>> pconsole is intended to replace cconsole, although both will >>> coexist for a time. >> >> >> The larger context is useful, thanks! >> >> It sounds like this case could easily be re-spec'd to >> >> Make cconsole/ctelnet/... Obsolete >> >> Introduce pconsole as a functional replacement >> >> Specify the interface taxonomy details of the new pconsole command >> (including any "Volatile/Private, keep off the grass" aspects) >> >> -John > From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Thu Sep 25 04:58:48 2008 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8PBwlth022156 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m8PBwhIw011752; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:58:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K7R0010B2LVO600@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com ([129.148.174.143]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K7R000CQ2LUKT10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m8PBwga3020356; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id m8PBwgOW020353; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:58:27 -0400 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> To: achut reddy Cc: John Plocher , Dean Roehrich , Jatin.Jhala@sun.com, psarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <18651.31971.314536.70080@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 652 achut reddy writes: > Except I would rather not tie the two together at this time, > unless this is required by PSARC. > > While I believe it is likely that cconsole may be obsoleted, > that decision has NOT actually been made by our PAC. > It is at least conceivable that both could continue to coexist > for some time. Indeed, it is. Obsoleting it (in ARC terms) doesn't mean it can't continue to ship -- possibly forever. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From tim.haley@sun.com Sun Oct 5 21:02:30 2008 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9642UXO025278 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id m9642Tts017086 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0K8A00A05TW5QS00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:02:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K8A001O1TW4QBE0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9642SUd025216 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:02:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K8A00A01TUWYG00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from tim.haley@sun.com) for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Giles.local ([76.120.1.50]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K8A00175TVZKI30@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:02:21 -0600 From: Tim Haley Subject: Re: pconsole - parallel console [PSARC/2008/606 FastTrack timeout 09/30/2008] In-reply-to: <18651.31971.314536.70080@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Timothy.Haley@sun.com To: psarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <48E98DCD.2000804@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200809240445.m8O4jcpH005653@spidey.Central.Sun.COM> <20080924142724.GA13898@kickball-mn.Central.Sun.COM> <48DA95E4.6070301@sun.com> <48DAA208.40609@Sun.Com> <48DAB042.6000505@sun.com> <18651.31971.314536.70080@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) Status: RO Content-Length: 131 The timer on this case has expired. Questions regarding it have all been addresssed, so I am marking the case approved. -tim