From sacadmin Mon Mar 2 03:23:24 2009 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22BNOkh027612; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eh146360@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id n22BNONu027608; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:23:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:23:24 -0800 (PST) From: En-Hua Cecilia Hu Message-Id: <200903021123.n22BNONu027608@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: PSARC-record@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver [PSARC/2009/143 Self Review] Status: RO Content-Length: 584 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Tim Chen 1.3 Date of This Document: 02 March, 2009 4. Technical Description See the case directory for more detail 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: Automatic 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Cecilia.Hu@Sun.COM Mon Mar 2 03:31:15 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22BVENG027639 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n22BVETu027146 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KFV00609MO2ZH00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:31:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from sineb-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.19.7]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KFV002GQMO0A340@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:31:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n22BVCDl011331 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:31:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KFV00C00MAFQF00@mail-apac.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:31:12 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.218.98] ([unknown] [129.158.218.98]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFV00L07MNZ4GL0@mail-apac.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:31:11 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:29:00 +0800 From: Cecilia Hu Subject: PSARC 2009/143 Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver Sender: Cecilia.Hu@Sun.COM To: psarc-ext@Sun.COM Cc: Pengcheng.Chen@Sun.COM Reply-to: Cecilia.Hu@Sun.COM Message-id: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080128) Status: RO Content-Length: 2769 I am sponsoring this case for Tim Chen. It is to provide a new wireless(IEEE802.11b) driver, atu(7D), for Atmel AT76C50x USB card. The requested release binding is micro/patch. The architecture and interface of it are clear enough to be a self review, so the case is marked as "closed approved automatic". -Cecilia 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Tim Chen 1.3 Date of This Document: 2 Mar, 2009 4. Technical Description 4.1 Details This case is to support Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b wireless devices through providing atu(7D) driver, which is based on gldv3, mac_wifi plugin, and net80211 kernel module. The vendor ID and product ID of the chips supported by this driver is: usb1915,2233 This driver supports Brussels, Suspend/Resume, and Fast Reboot. +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | NAME | STABILITY LABEL | DESCRIPTION | +------------------------+-----------------------+----------------+ | Interfaces Exported | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | atu | Committed | Driver name | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| | SUNWatu | Committed | Package name | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Interfaces Imported | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | Gldv3/Nemo | Consolidation Private | PSARC/2004/571 | | | | PSARC/2005/396 | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| | Mac_wifi plugin | Consoladation Private | PSARC/2006/406 | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| | net80211 kernel module | Consoladation Private | PSARC/2006/406 | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| | Brussels | Committed | PSARC/2007/429 | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| | Fast Reboot | Committed | PSARC/2008/382 | |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions: No sparc version for this driver, for net80211 kernel module exists on x86 platform only. 6.5. ARC review type: Self approval From carlsonj@phorcys.east.sun.com Mon Mar 2 03:40:01 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22Be1cF027734 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n22BdwJo001566; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KFV0070DN2MS800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:39:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com ([129.148.174.143]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KFV0025IN2KAD40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:39:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from phorcys.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n22BdrYh022601; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.east.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id n22Bdrup022598; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:39:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:39:52 -0500 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/143 Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver In-reply-to: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> To: Cecilia.Hu@sun.com Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Pengcheng.Chen@sun.com Message-id: <18859.50568.988964.690320@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 431 Cecilia Hu writes: > I am sponsoring this case for Tim Chen. It is to provide a new > wireless(IEEE802.11b) driver, atu(7D), for Atmel AT76C50x USB card. > The requested release binding is micro/patch. +1 -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 From gdamore@sun.com Mon Mar 2 08:31:07 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22GV7sJ014899 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n22GV2ak014056 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KFW00C1N0JTYR00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:31:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KFW00LSC0JRXSA0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:31:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n22GV3Xe022572 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KFV00H00Z10G300@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFW00CX70JQNK30@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:31:02 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/143 Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver In-reply-to: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Cecilia.Hu@sun.com Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com, Pengcheng.Chen@sun.com Message-id: <49AC09C6.1040301@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081201) Status: RO Content-Length: 2888 +1 Cecilia Hu wrote: > I am sponsoring this case for Tim Chen. It is to provide a new > wireless(IEEE802.11b) driver, atu(7D), for Atmel AT76C50x USB card. > The requested release binding is micro/patch. > > The architecture and interface of it are clear enough to be a self > review, so the case is marked as "closed approved automatic". > > -Cecilia > > > > > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Tim Chen > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 2 Mar, 2009 > > 4. Technical Description > > 4.1 Details > This case is to support Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b wireless > devices through providing atu(7D) driver, which is based on gldv3, > mac_wifi plugin, and net80211 kernel module. > > The vendor ID and product ID of the chips supported by this > driver is: > usb1915,2233 > > This driver supports Brussels, Suspend/Resume, and Fast Reboot. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | NAME | STABILITY LABEL | DESCRIPTION | > +------------------------+-----------------------+----------------+ > | Interfaces Exported | > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| > | atu | Committed | Driver name | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > | SUNWatu | Committed | Package name | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Interfaces Imported | > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| > | Gldv3/Nemo | Consolidation Private | PSARC/2004/571 | > | | | PSARC/2005/396 | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > | Mac_wifi plugin | Consoladation Private | PSARC/2006/406 | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > | net80211 kernel module | Consoladation Private | PSARC/2006/406 | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > | Brussels | Committed | PSARC/2007/429 | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > | Fast Reboot | Committed | PSARC/2008/382 | > |------------------------+-----------------------+----------------| > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > ON > 6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions: > No sparc version for this driver, for net80211 kernel > module exists on x86 platform only. > 6.5. ARC review type: > Self approval From Artem.Kachitchkin@Sun.COM Mon Mar 2 11:34:05 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22JY5GB020750 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n22JY2YC045392 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:34:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KFW0071X90QF800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:34:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KFW0019T90OIP60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:34:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n22JY0pK019470 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KFW00H0088KF300@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.104.83] ([unknown] [129.146.104.83]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFW00LP990EDMC0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:33:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:32:35 -0800 From: Artem Kachitchkine Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/143 Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver In-reply-to: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> Sender: Artem.Kachitchkin@Sun.COM To: Cecilia.Hu@Sun.COM Cc: psarc-ext@Sun.COM, Pengcheng.Chen@Sun.COM Message-id: <49AC3453.8060901@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081215) Status: RO Content-Length: 439 On 03/02/09 03:29, Cecilia Hu wrote: > I am sponsoring this case for Tim Chen. It is to provide a new > wireless(IEEE802.11b) driver, atu(7D), for Atmel AT76C50x USB card. I'd be the last to complain about naming, so let me start by saying: +1 on the case. But a note for the future: we've tried to name USB drivers with names starting with "usb" or at least "u", though I guess that line has faded since rum(7D) and zyd(7D). -Artem From gdamore@sun.com Mon Mar 2 12:37:54 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22Kbs0R014189 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n22Kbse5022950 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KFW00D0DBZ4ZA00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:37:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KFW001OKBZ3IPC0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:37:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n22KbpkM028346 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KFW00100B8KRZ00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFW00KKLBZ2FK10@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:37:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:37:50 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/143 Atmel AT76C50x USB IEEE 802.11b Wireless Device Driver In-reply-to: <49AC3453.8060901@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Artem Kachitchkine Cc: Cecilia.Hu@sun.com, psarc-ext@sun.com, Pengcheng.Chen@sun.com Message-id: <49AC439E.4010402@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <49ABC2FC.9010308@sun.com> <49AC3453.8060901@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081201) Status: RO Content-Length: 1384 Artem Kachitchkine wrote: > On 03/02/09 03:29, Cecilia Hu wrote: >> I am sponsoring this case for Tim Chen. It is to provide a new >> wireless(IEEE802.11b) driver, atu(7D), for Atmel AT76C50x USB card. > > I'd be the last to complain about naming, so let me start by saying: > +1 on the case. But a note for the future: we've tried to name USB > drivers with names starting with "usb" or at least "u", though I guess > that line has faded since rum(7D) and zyd(7D). > > -Artem IMO, naming conventions for drivers is a doomed effort. You wind up with either long names to avoid collisions in the namespace, or names that don't make sense. The only thing I'll say further about it is, I would really like if *device drivers* (I don't care about misc/ modules) could please avoid using *numbers* in their names. Names like e1000g, audiovia823x, and audio810 are a PITA. I'll even go one further than that -- I'd like to suggest that henceforth, no driver should be allowed to integrate which uses trailing digits in its name (audio810 being an example). It breaks all kinds of parsing and forces folks to come up with special hacks to print device information. (Instead of just , you have use a delimiting colon.) Note that this rule already exists for NIC devices -- I just would like to see it expanded to all other devices. -- Garrett