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Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 SMIT for OpenSolaris
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Dan McDonald
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	01 April, 2009
4. Technical Description
    See the case directory for more detail

6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
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    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


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From: James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com>
Subject: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris
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I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
approved automatic."



OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
level design needed are trivial.

This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
The user/administrator interfaces are:

	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]

"smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.

Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
here, but will include:

	SMF FMRI management
	Networking Interfaces
	Dtrace
	Zones
	ZFS file systems and pools

SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
familiarity reasons.

Other interfaces delivered by this project include:

	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/

	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
	smit.script

A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
stick figure frozen in mid-step.

The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
"Difficult."

Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.

From matty91@gmail.com Wed Apr  1 09:08:00 2009
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From: Matty <matty91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris
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I'm a bit perplexed by this:

"Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway."

Any reason the project team isn't working with the visual panels team
or soliciting their input?

Thanks,
- Ryan
--
http://prefetch.net


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM, James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com> wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>
>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
>        /usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>        /usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>        /usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
>        SMF FMRI management
>        Networking Interfaces
>        Dtrace
>        Zones
>        ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
>        /etc/objrepos   - symlink to /etc/svc/
>
>        smit.log,       - droppings left in current directory
>        smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-arc mailing list
> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org
>


From Torrey.McMahon@sun.com Wed Apr  1 09:09:21 2009
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Will this case include the secure shell variant of smit, sshmit?

On 4/1/2009 11:55 AM, James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>
>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
> 	SMF FMRI management
> 	Networking Interfaces
> 	Dtrace
> 	Zones
> 	ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
>
> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
> 	smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
>    

From Bart.Blanquart@sun.com Wed Apr  1 09:11:06 2009
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From: Bart Blanquart <Bart.Blanquart@sun.com>
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On 04/01/09 18:07, Matty wrote:
> I'm a bit perplexed by this:
> 
> "Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway."
> 
> Any reason the project team isn't working with the visual panels team
> or soliciting their input?

If they did they wouldn't be able to integrate before this day finishes, 
which, I understand, is essential for this project.

Bart

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----- Original Message ----
From: James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com>
To: psarc-ext@sun.com
Cc: Dan McDonald <danmcd@sun.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:55:05 AM
Subject: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris

I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
approved automatic."



OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
level design needed are trivial.

This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
The user/administrator interfaces are:

    /usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
    /usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
    /usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]

"smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.

Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
here, but will include:

    SMF FMRI management
    Networking Interfaces
    Dtrace
    Zones
    ZFS file systems and pools

SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
familiarity reasons.

Other interfaces delivered by this project include:

    /etc/objrepos    - symlink to /etc/svc/

    smit.log,    - droppings left in current directory
    smit.script

A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
stick figure frozen in mid-step.

The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
"Difficult."

Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
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Also, it's critical that he stick figure runs when SMIT is thinking.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Matty <matty91@gmail.com>
To: James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com>
Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com; Dan McDonald <danmcd@sun.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:07:54 AM
Subject: Re: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris

I'm a bit perplexed by this:

"Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway."

Any reason the project team isn't working with the visual panels team
or soliciting their input?

Thanks,
- Ryan
--
http://prefetch.net


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM, James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com> wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>
>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
>        /usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>        /usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>        /usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
>        SMF FMRI management
>        Networking Interfaces
>        Dtrace
>        Zones
>        ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
>        /etc/objrepos   - symlink to /etc/svc/
>
>        smit.log,       - droppings left in current directory
>        smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-arc mailing list
> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org
>
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Matty writes:
> I'm a bit perplexed by this:
> 
> "Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway."
> 
> Any reason the project team isn't working with the visual panels team
> or soliciting their input?

I thought it was obvious from the context, but the project team
doesn't wish to be bothered with coordination for their open source
project.  Open source makes it different, and they just want the
approval for integration, which I'm only too pleased to provide.

-- 
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From Mark.Carlson@sun.com Wed Apr  1 09:24:13 2009
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From: "Mark A. Carlson" <Mark.Carlson@sun.com>
Subject: Re: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris
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I would think that this requires an imported interface from
the Acquisition by IBM eXtensions (AIX) project to be listed
in the interface table.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-smit/index.html

-- mark

James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>
>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
> 	SMF FMRI management
> 	Networking Interfaces
> 	Dtrace
> 	Zones
> 	ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
>
> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
> 	smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
>   

-- 
<http://www.sun.com> 	* Mark A. Carlson *
Sr. Architect

*Systems Group*
Phone x69559 / 303-223-6139
Email Mark.Carlson@Sun.COM
	



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<tt>I would think that this requires an imported interface from<br>
the Acquisition by IBM eXtensions (AIX) project to be listed<br>
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  <pre wrap="">I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
approved automatic."



OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
level design needed are trivial.

This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
The user/administrator interfaces are:

	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]

"smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.

Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
here, but will include:

	SMF FMRI management
	Networking Interfaces
	Dtrace
	Zones
	ZFS file systems and pools

SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
familiarity reasons.

Other interfaces delivered by this project include:

	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/

	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
	smit.script

A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
stick figure frozen in mid-step.

The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
"Difficult."

Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
  </pre>
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Does this have anything to do with the April 1st today's date?


Kais.

On 04/01/09 08:55, James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>
>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
> 	SMF FMRI management
> 	Networking Interfaces
> 	Dtrace
> 	Zones
> 	ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
>
> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
> 	smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
>
>   


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On 04/01/09 08:55 AM, James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
>   

I'd like to change this to "Approved Conditional", pending alignment
with both HPARC and IBMARC, as well as coordination with the
MS kernel replacement project team.

Please advise.


>
>
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
>
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>
> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
>
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
>
> 	SMF FMRI management
> 	Networking Interfaces
> 	Dtrace
> 	Zones
> 	ZFS file systems and pools
>
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
>
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>
> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
>
> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
> 	smit.script
>
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
>   


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From: Sherry Moore <sherry.moore@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris
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I'd like to suggest that the project team rename the project to "System
Modified by Ridiculous Things", SMRT.  The project team can continue to
deliver the listed binaries as symlinks to /usr/bin/smrt.  A dryrun
option "-n" should be provided:

    Global optionss:
	-n --not	fool-proof dryrun

Sherry

On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:55:05AM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."
> 
> 
> 
> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking at
> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
> level design needed are trivial.
> 
> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for "System
> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
> The user/administrator interfaces are:
> 
> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
> 
> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man pages.
> 
> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in detail
> here, but will include:
> 
> 	SMF FMRI management
> 	Networking Interfaces
> 	Dtrace
> 	Zones
> 	ZFS file systems and pools
> 
> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on other
> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
> familiarity reasons.
> 
> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
> 
> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
> 
> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
> 	smit.script
> 
> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
> 
> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
> "Difficult."
> 
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.

-- 
Sherry Moore, Solaris Core Kernel	http://blogs.sun.com/sherrym

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Incidentally 'smrt' means death in Czech :-)

Cheers,
Spity

On 1.4.2009, at 19:12, Sherry Moore wrote:

> I'd like to suggest that the project team rename the project to  
> "System
> Modified by Ridiculous Things", SMRT.  The project team can continue  
> to
> deliver the listed binaries as symlinks to /usr/bin/smrt.  A dryrun
> option "-n" should be provided:
>
>    Global optionss:
> 	-n --not	fool-proof dryrun
>
> Sherry
>
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:55:05AM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
>> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
>> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
>> approved automatic."
>>
>>
>>
>> OpenSolaris currently lacks a standard, interoperable system
>> management tool.  Fortunately, we are able to discern both the
>> requirements for such a tool and the overall design by just looking  
>> at
>> artifacts on other operating systems, so the architecture and top
>> level design needed are trivial.
>>
>> This project provides SMIT for OpenSolaris.  "SMIT" stands for  
>> "System
>> Modified by Invisible Things," but the project team isn't sure why.
>> The user/administrator interfaces are:
>>
>> 	/usr/bin/smit [-C] [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>> 	/usr/bin/smitty [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>> 	/usr/bin/xsmit [-D] [-m menu-entry] [-R alternate-root]
>>
>> "smitty" is equivalent to "smit -C".  "xsmit" is an enhancement
>> designed by the project team, and is just a symlink to "smit."  These
>> commands all bring up configuration menus, allowing the user (with
>> appropriate privileges) to modify system configuration by exec-ing
>> commands that he could otherwise learn about via the system man  
>> pages.
>>
>> Menus to be delivered with the "smit" tool are not described in  
>> detail
>> here, but will include:
>>
>> 	SMF FMRI management
>> 	Networking Interfaces
>> 	Dtrace
>> 	Zones
>> 	ZFS file systems and pools
>>
>> SMIT is a system management tool but it's located in /usr/bin on  
>> other
>> systems, so we're placing it there on OpenSolaris as well for
>> familiarity reasons.
>>
>> Other interfaces delivered by this project include:
>>
>> 	/etc/objrepos	- symlink to /etc/svc/
>>
>> 	smit.log,	- droppings left in current directory
>> 	smit.script
>>
>> A desktop link for GNOME will be provided.  The icon will depict a
>> stick figure frozen in mid-step.
>>
>> The release binding is "Tight."  The interfaces described are all
>> "Difficult."
>>
>> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
>> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
>> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.
>
> -- 
> Sherry Moore, Solaris Core Kernel	http://blogs.sun.com/sherrym


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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:55:05AM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
> I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> approved automatic."

And I just putback the code about an hour or two ago.  It compiles on all
three platforms (sparc, x86, ppc) so I'm in good shape!

<SNIP!>
> Related OpenSolaris projects may include Visual Panels.  The SMIT
> project team is not in contact with that team, and doesn't expect
> their agreement with this project, but would like to proceed anyway.

Wait a minute... what's Visual Panels?

Dan

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Dan,

V st, 01. 04. 2009 v 20:52, Dan McDonald pÃ­Å¡e:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:55:05AM -0400, James Carlson wrote:
> > I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> > change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> > approved automatic."
> 
> And I just putback the code about an hour or two ago.  It compiles on all
> three platforms (sparc, x86, ppc) so I'm in good shape!
> 

You missed S390 and ARM, so it should be backouted.

Best regards,

Milan


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Kais Belgaied wrote:

> Does this have anything to do with the April 1st today's date?

Didn't you see the commit notification?

http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/onnv-notify/2009-April/009025.html

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"Mark A. Carlson" <Mark.Carlson@sun.com> wrote:

> I would think that this requires an imported interface from
> the Acquisition by IBM eXtensions (AIX) project to be listed
> in the interface table.

Sun did just announce to lay off another 1500 employees.
With the todays stock prize for "java", it is obvious that Sun
will buy IBM today.

Jörg

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From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Subject: Re: 2009/211 SMIT for OpenSolaris
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Neal Pollack <Neal.Pollack@sun.com> wrote:

> On 04/01/09 08:55 AM, James Carlson wrote:
> > I'm just tickled pink to sponsor this request for Dan McDonald.  The
> > change looks entirely obvious to me, so I've marked it as "closed
> > approved automatic."
> >   
>
> I'd like to change this to "Approved Conditional", pending alignment
> with both HPARC and IBMARC, as well as coordination with the
> MS kernel replacement project team.

I may need to mention that the first name of SMIT is SAM.

When will the printer tool "Spooler Aadministration made Manually" be added to 
Solaris?

Jörg

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