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From: James Walker <jw137282@sac.sfbay.sun.com>
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I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Erik Lafever. The requested
release binding is minor. The man pages have been posted in the
materials directory.

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1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 pylint
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Erik Lafever
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	28 May, 2009
4. Technical Description

Summary
=======
	Pylint[1] is a python tool that checks if a Python module satisfies a coding
	standard by analyzing Python source code looking for bugs and signs of
	pool quality.

	pylint-0.18.0 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation
        as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWpylint.

	This project requests a minor release binding.

Dependencies
============

	SUNWPython
	SUNWgnome-libs
	SUNWgnome-python-libs
	SUNWlogilab-common		
	SUNWlogilab-astng

Interfaces
==========

	Exported Interfaces			Classification	Comment
	-------------------			--------------	-------
	SUNWpylint				Uncommitted 	Package
	/usr/bin/pylint				Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/symilar			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/pyreverse			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/epylint			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/pylint-gui			Uncommitted	Python script

	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
	SUNWgnome-libs        	Volatile	GNOME platform libraries
	SUNWgnome-python-libs   Volatile	Python GNOME libraries
	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library

	Project Private
	-------------------
	/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pylint
						
Reference Documents
===================
	[1] http://www.logilab.org/project/pylint/



6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		SFW
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


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On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 14:51 -0700, James Walker wrote:
> 	Pylint[1] is a python tool that checks if a Python module satisfies a coding
> 	standard by analyzing Python source code looking for bugs and signs of
> 	pool quality.

I'm guessing it looks for signs of poor quality? ;-)

> 	pylint-0.18.0 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation
>         as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWpylint.
> 
> 	This project requests a minor release binding.

It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to any
existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
restrictive.  Why not Patch?

> 	Exported Interfaces			Classification	Comment
> 	-------------------			--------------	-------
> 	SUNWpylint				Uncommitted 	Package
> 	/usr/bin/pylint				Uncommitted	Python script
> 	/usr/bin/symilar			Uncommitted	Python script
> 	/usr/bin/pyreverse			Uncommitted	Python script
> 	/usr/bin/epylint			Uncommitted	Python script
> 	/usr/bin/pylint-gui			Uncommitted	Python script

It appears that the project team has supplied man pages for each of
these interfaces in the materials directory (thank you).  Of note is the
reference to the use of Tcl/Tk by pylint-gui(1), which suggests that
there should be some additional related imported interfaces below.  If
Tcl/Tk is in fact used to drive the GUI, then what are the GNOME
libraries used for?

> 	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
> 	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
> 	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
> 	SUNWgnome-libs        	Volatile	GNOME platform libraries
> 	SUNWgnome-python-libs   Volatile	Python GNOME libraries
> 	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
> 	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library

I don't see the latter two packages in the existing repositories.  Are
they in fact being delivered by this case (and should therefore be part
of the exported interfaces), or being delivered by a separate case (if
so there is case dependency that should be called out)?

-Seb



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Sebastien,

My responses are in-line.  I have included another draft of the proposal 
with edits based on your
comments.

Thanks,

-Erik


Sebastien Roy wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 14:51 -0700, James Walker wrote:
>   
>> 	Pylint[1] is a python tool that checks if a Python module satisfies a coding
>> 	standard by analyzing Python source code looking for bugs and signs of
>> 	pool quality.
>>     
>
> I'm guessing it looks for signs of poor quality? ;-)
>   
correct :)
>   
>> 	pylint-0.18.0 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation
>>         as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWpylint.
>>
>> 	This project requests a minor release binding.
>>     
>
> It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to any
> existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
> restrictive.  Why not Patch?
>
>   
>> 	Exported Interfaces			Classification	Comment
>> 	-------------------			--------------	-------
>> 	SUNWpylint				Uncommitted 	Package
>> 	/usr/bin/pylint				Uncommitted	Python script
>> 	/usr/bin/symilar			Uncommitted	Python script
>> 	/usr/bin/pyreverse			Uncommitted	Python script
>> 	/usr/bin/epylint			Uncommitted	Python script
>> 	/usr/bin/pylint-gui			Uncommitted	Python script
>>     
>
> It appears that the project team has supplied man pages for each of
> these interfaces in the materials directory (thank you).  Of note is the
> reference to the use of Tcl/Tk by pylint-gui(1), which suggests that
> there should be some additional related imported interfaces below. 
Tk represents python's standard built in Tkinter interface, not tcl's.
>  If
> Tcl/Tk is in fact used to drive the GUI, then what are the GNOME
> libraries used for?
>   
The Gnome libraries are a requirement for SUNWlogilab-common.  Should we 
leave out
SUNWgnome-libs and SUNWgnome-python-libs as they are covered by the 
dependencies
for SUNWlogilab-common?
>   
>> 	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
>> 	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
>> 	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
>> 	SUNWgnome-libs        	Volatile	GNOME platform libraries
>> 	SUNWgnome-python-libs   Volatile	Python GNOME libraries
>> 	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
>> 	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library
>>     
>
> I don't see the latter two packages in the existing repositories.  Are
> they in fact being delivered by this case (and should therefore be part
> of the exported interfaces), or being delivered by a separate case (if
> so there is case dependency that should be called out)?
>   
SUNWlogilab-common and SUNWlogilab-astng are separate cases:
        SUNWlogilab-common          http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/   
        SUNWlogilab-astng                
http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/
> -Seb
>
>
>   


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This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 pylint
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Erik LaFever
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	 27 May, 2009
4. Technical Description


Summary
=======
	Pylint[1] is a python tool that checks if a module satisfies a coding
	standard by analyzing Python source code looking for bugs and signs of
	poor quality.

	pylint-0.18.0 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation
        as part of this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWpylint.

	This project requests a minor release binding.

Dependencies
============

	SUNWPython
	SUNWlogilab-common	 	http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/	
	SUNWlogilab-astng		http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/

	NOTE: SUNWlogilab-common and SUNWlogilab-astng proposals are currently
	    under review.	

Interfaces
==========

	Exported Interfaces			Classification	Comment
	-------------------			--------------	-------
	SUNWpylint				Uncommitted 	Package

	/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pylint
						Uncommitted 	Python scripts
	/usr/bin/pylint				Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/symilar			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/pyreverse			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/epylint			Uncommitted	Python script
	/usr/bin/pylint-gui			Uncommitted	Python script
	

	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library

Reference Documents
===================
	[1] http://www.logilab.org/project/pylint/

6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		SFW
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open




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From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Fri May 29 11:20:52 2009
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Hi Erik,

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:05 -0700, Erik Lafever wrote:
> Sebastien Roy wrote:
> > It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to any
> > existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
> > restrictive.  Why not Patch?

Any thoughts on this?

> > It appears that the project team has supplied man pages for each of
> > these interfaces in the materials directory (thank you).  Of note is the
> > reference to the use of Tcl/Tk by pylint-gui(1), which suggests that
> > there should be some additional related imported interfaces below. 
> Tk represents python's standard built in Tkinter interface, not tcl's.

Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying.

> >  If
> > Tcl/Tk is in fact used to drive the GUI, then what are the GNOME
> > libraries used for?
> >   
> The Gnome libraries are a requirement for SUNWlogilab-common.  Should we 
> leave out
> SUNWgnome-libs and SUNWgnome-python-libs as they are covered by the 
> dependencies
> for SUNWlogilab-common?

I'd leave them out, as they should already be imported by those
interfaces that you depend on and are importing directly, yes.  I see
you've done that in your updated spec.

> >   
> >> 	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
> >> 	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
> >> 	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
> >> 	SUNWgnome-libs        	Volatile	GNOME platform libraries
> >> 	SUNWgnome-python-libs   Volatile	Python GNOME libraries
> >> 	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
> >> 	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library
> >>     
> >
> > I don't see the latter two packages in the existing repositories.  Are
> > they in fact being delivered by this case (and should therefore be part
> > of the exported interfaces), or being delivered by a separate case (if
> > so there is case dependency that should be called out)?
> >   
> SUNWlogilab-common and SUNWlogilab-astng are separate cases:
>         SUNWlogilab-common          http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/   
>         SUNWlogilab-astng                
> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/

Great, thanks for clarifying that.

+1 from me, modulo the clarification regarding release binding.

-Seb



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Sebastien Roy wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:05 -0700, Erik Lafever wrote:
>   
>> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>>     
>>> It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to any
>>> existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
>>> restrictive.  Why not Patch?
>>>       
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>   
I followed the binding type that was used for SUNWlogilab-common and 
SUNWlogilab-astng
which SUNWpylint depends on.  I was trying to keep things consistent so 
I matched what was there.

Thanks,

-Erik


>   
>>> It appears that the project team has supplied man pages for each of
>>> these interfaces in the materials directory (thank you).  Of note is the
>>> reference to the use of Tcl/Tk by pylint-gui(1), which suggests that
>>> there should be some additional related imported interfaces below. 
>>>       
>> Tk represents python's standard built in Tkinter interface, not tcl's.
>>     
>
> Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying.
>
>   
>>>  If
>>> Tcl/Tk is in fact used to drive the GUI, then what are the GNOME
>>> libraries used for?
>>>   
>>>       
>> The Gnome libraries are a requirement for SUNWlogilab-common.  Should we 
>> leave out
>> SUNWgnome-libs and SUNWgnome-python-libs as they are covered by the 
>> dependencies
>> for SUNWlogilab-common?
>>     
>
> I'd leave them out, as they should already be imported by those
> interfaces that you depend on and are importing directly, yes.  I see
> you've done that in your updated spec.
>
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> 	Imported Interfaces	Classification	Comment
>>>> 	-------------------	--------------	---------------------------
>>>> 	SUNWPython    		Volatile	Python interpreter, library
>>>> 	SUNWgnome-libs        	Volatile	GNOME platform libraries
>>>> 	SUNWgnome-python-libs   Volatile	Python GNOME libraries
>>>> 	SUNWlogilab-common 	Uncommitted	Python library
>>>> 	SUNWlogilab-astng	Uncommitted	Python library
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I don't see the latter two packages in the existing repositories.  Are
>>> they in fact being delivered by this case (and should therefore be part
>>> of the exported interfaces), or being delivered by a separate case (if
>>> so there is case dependency that should be called out)?
>>>   
>>>       
>> SUNWlogilab-common and SUNWlogilab-astng are separate cases:
>>         SUNWlogilab-common          http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/   
>>         SUNWlogilab-astng                
>> http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/
>>     
>
> Great, thanks for clarifying that.
>
> +1 from me, modulo the clarification regarding release binding.
>
> -Seb
>
>
>   


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Erik Lafever wrote:
> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>> Hi Erik,
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:05 -0700, Erik Lafever wrote:
>>  
>>> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>>>    
>>>> It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to 
>>>> any
>>>> existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
>>>> restrictive.  Why not Patch?
>>>>       
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>   
> I followed the binding type that was used for SUNWlogilab-common and 
> SUNWlogilab-astng
> which SUNWpylint depends on.  I was trying to keep things consistent so 
> I matched what was there.

 From what I can tell, there seems to be a random naming pattern to 
packages where some of them get named SUNWpyhon-something, others 
SUNWPython-something, and yet others SUNWsomething.

Is there an established practice yet?

Cheers,
-- 
Shawn Walker

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Shawn Walker wrote:
> Erik Lafever wrote:
>> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>>> Hi Erik,
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:05 -0700, Erik Lafever wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes 
>>>>> to any
>>>>> existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
>>>>> restrictive.  Why not Patch?
>>>>>       
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>   
>> I followed the binding type that was used for SUNWlogilab-common and 
>> SUNWlogilab-astng
>> which SUNWpylint depends on.  I was trying to keep things consistent 
>> so I matched what was there.
>
> From what I can tell, there seems to be a random naming pattern to 
> packages where some of them get named SUNWpyhon-something, others 
> SUNWPython-something, and yet others SUNWsomething.
>
> Is there an established practice yet?

There is no practice, except that SUNW is used for Sun supplied 
packages, for historical reasons.  (Maybe they should be JAVA now, but 
soon they might need to be ORCL. :-)

There used to be a limit on the overall length, and the practice used to 
be to use lower case characters.  I generally prefer SUNW<lowercase> and 
to have the <lowercase> part be a relatively small number of characters 
(say not more than 20 or so for the whole package name) just to make the 
names easier to work with.  But this is just personal preference and not 
part of a hard and fast rule.

    - Garrett
>
> Cheers,


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>
> Dependencies
> ============
>
>        SUNWPython
>        SUNWlogilab-common              http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/
>        SUNWlogilab-astng               http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/
>

Erik,

these URLs are internal to your employer. Can you please use publicly
available URLs ?

-- 
Regards,
        Cyril


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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:23:12PM +0300, Cyril Plisko wrote:

> > SUNWlogilab-common   http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/298/
> > SUNWlogilab-astng    http://sac.sfbay/arc/LSARC/2009/299/
> 
> these URLs are internal to your employer. Can you please use publicly
> available URLs ?

The usual way is to not use URLs, but just case IDs: LSARC/2009/298.

Danek

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Shawn Walker wrote:
>  From what I can tell, there seems to be a random naming pattern to 
> packages where some of them get named SUNWpyhon-something, others 
> SUNWPython-something, and yet others SUNWsomething.
> 
> Is there an established practice yet?

For now, we will use SUNWpylint until directed otherwise.

I don't know of a standard Python naming practice yet.

Cheers,
Jim


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Sebastien Roy wrote:
> Hi Erik,
> 
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:05 -0700, Erik Lafever wrote:
>> Sebastien Roy wrote:
>>> It looks like this project makes no backward incompatible changes to any
>>> existing software.  As such, Minor binding seems unnecessarily
>>> restrictive.  Why not Patch?
> 
> Any thoughts on this?

I updated the proposal.txt file as discussed and changed
the requested binding to patch to give us more options.
I'll review the logilab library cases too.

I recommend this case be approved at the PSARC meeting today.
I won't be able to attend.

Cheers,
Jim

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This case was approved during the PSARC meeting.

Cheers,
Jim

