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From: James Walker <jw137282@sac.sfbay.sun.com>
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I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
materials directory.

Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI
This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems
1. Introduction
    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
	 Pipe Viewer (pv)
    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
	 Author:  Huajian Luo
    1.3  Date of This Document:
	11 June, 2009
4. Technical Description

Summary
=======

   pv[1] - Pipe Viewer - is a terminal-based tool for monitoring the
   progress of data through a pipeline. It can be inserted into any
   normal pipeline between two processes to give a visual indication
   of how quickly data is passing through, how long it has taken, how
   near to completion it is, and an estimate of how long it will be
   until completion.
   
   pv1.1.4 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of
   this proposal, and will be installed as SUNWpv.
   
   This project requests a minor release binding.


Dependencies
============

   None

Interfaces
==========

   Exported Interfaces		Classification	Comment
   -------------------		--------------	------------------
   SUNWpv			Uncommitted	Package
   /usr/bin/pv			Uncommitted	Command

   Imported Interfaces
   -------------------  
   None         

Reference Documents
===================
   [1] http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml

6. Resources and Schedule
    6.4. Steering Committee requested information
   	6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name:
		SFW
    6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack
    6.6. ARC Exposure: open


From dcragun@sonic.net Thu Jun 11 23:08:16 2009
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Subject: Re: Pipe Viewer (pv) [PSARC/2009/350 FastTrack timeout 06/18/2009]
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:41:50 -0700 (PDT) James Walker wrote:
>I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
>release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
>materials directory.
>

I find the pv(1) man page a little confusing...
1.  What does:
	"pv will copy each supplied FILE in turn to standard output
	 means standard input),"
    at the start of the 3rd paragraph of the description mean?  Is the
    intent something like:
	"pv will copy each supplied FILE in turn to standard output (-
	 means standard input),"?

2.  The 2nd paragraph of the description says:
	"To use it, insert it in a pipeline between two processes,"
    but several of the examples show it as the first process in a
    pipeline.  Are the examples wrong, or is the description wrong?

3.  The examples use several utilities that I haven't seen added to
    Solaris yet.  Is this case going to provide them as well?  I noted
    dialog (which is also in the See Also list), gpg, mcrypt, and nc;
    but there may be others.  If this case isn't going to provide them,
    shouldn't we have an updated man page that doesn't refer to them?

4.  The DISPLAY SWITCHES section of the OPTIONS sections starts with:
	"If no display switches are specified, pv behaves as if -p, -t,
	 -e, had been given (i.e. everything is switched on)."
    but there are other display switches in addition to -e, -p, and -t.
    Is the output with no display switches equivalent to:
	pv -e -p -t
    or to?:
	pv -b -e -p -r -t

5.  Shouldn't -n and -q be listed in the OUTPUT MODIFIERS list instead
    of the DISPLAY SWITCHES list?  If not, add -n and -q to the last
    command line in #4 above.  (Except, see #6 below.)

6.  Aren't -n and -q mutually exclusive?  What happens if both are given
    on the command line?

 - Don



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On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 20:41 -0700, James Walker wrote:
> I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
> release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
> materials directory.

I wonder how many other "/usr/bin/pv" commands there are...  Here's one
that's part of the "waon" project, included with Ubuntu:

http://www.kichiki.com/WAON/pv.html

There is even an unresolved bug filed against Ubuntu flagging this exact
conflict of /usr/bin/pv being in two different packages
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/waon/+bug/326717).  Sigh...

In any case, the next "pv" will have to deal with it, so +1. 

-Seb



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Sebastien Roy writes:
> On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 20:41 -0700, James Walker wrote:
> > I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
> > release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
> > materials directory.
> 
> I wonder how many other "/usr/bin/pv" commands there are...  Here's one
> that's part of the "waon" project, included with Ubuntu:

That's too bad, as waon (wav-to-notes) also looks pretty nifty.

-- 
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Currently, the project team is using the man page directly from
the tarball and tacking on the available and stability information
at the end. However, they will look into your suggestions and work
with the upstream community to improve the man page and or package
functionality.

Cheers,
Jim

Don Cragun wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:41:50 -0700 (PDT) James Walker wrote:
>> I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
>> release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
>> materials directory.
>>
> 
> I find the pv(1) man page a little confusing...
> 1.  What does:
> 	"pv will copy each supplied FILE in turn to standard output
> 	 means standard input),"
>     at the start of the 3rd paragraph of the description mean?  Is the
>     intent something like:
> 	"pv will copy each supplied FILE in turn to standard output (-
> 	 means standard input),"?
> 
> 2.  The 2nd paragraph of the description says:
> 	"To use it, insert it in a pipeline between two processes,"
>     but several of the examples show it as the first process in a
>     pipeline.  Are the examples wrong, or is the description wrong?
> 
> 3.  The examples use several utilities that I haven't seen added to
>     Solaris yet.  Is this case going to provide them as well?  I noted
>     dialog (which is also in the See Also list), gpg, mcrypt, and nc;
>     but there may be others.  If this case isn't going to provide them,
>     shouldn't we have an updated man page that doesn't refer to them?
> 
> 4.  The DISPLAY SWITCHES section of the OPTIONS sections starts with:
> 	"If no display switches are specified, pv behaves as if -p, -t,
> 	 -e, had been given (i.e. everything is switched on)."
>     but there are other display switches in addition to -e, -p, and -t.
>     Is the output with no display switches equivalent to:
> 	pv -e -p -t
>     or to?:
> 	pv -b -e -p -r -t
> 
> 5.  Shouldn't -n and -q be listed in the OUTPUT MODIFIERS list instead
>     of the DISPLAY SWITCHES list?  If not, add -n and -q to the last
>     command line in #4 above.  (Except, see #6 below.)
> 
> 6.  Aren't -n and -q mutually exclusive?  What happens if both are given
>     on the command line?
> 
>  - Don
> 
> 


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From: Jim Walker <James.Walker@sun.com>
Subject: Re: Pipe Viewer (pv) [PSARC/2009/350 FastTrack timeout 06/18/2009]
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Sebastien Roy wrote:
> I wonder how many other "/usr/bin/pv" commands there are...  Here's one
> that's part of the "waon" project, included with Ubuntu:
> 
> http://www.kichiki.com/WAON/pv.html
> 
> There is even an unresolved bug filed against Ubuntu flagging this exact
> conflict of /usr/bin/pv being in two different packages
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/waon/+bug/326717).  Sigh...
> 
> In any case, the next "pv" will have to deal with it, so +1. 

Since pipe viewer is intended to be used in command piping, it's
probably best to keep it short. Plus it was "first" as Joerg
likes to say :)

Cheers,
Jim

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On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 20:41 -0700, James Walker wrote:
> I'm sponsoring this familiarity case for Huajian Luo. The requested
> release binding is minor. The man page has been posted in the
> materials directory.

Last week, I wrote:
> I wonder how many other "/usr/bin/pv" commands there are...  Here's
> one
> that's part of the "waon" project, included with Ubuntu:
> 
> http://www.kichiki.com/WAON/pv.html
> 
> There is even an unresolved bug filed against Ubuntu flagging this
> exact
> conflict of /usr/bin/pv being in two different packages
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/waon/+bug/326717).  Sigh...
> 
> In any case, the next "pv" will have to deal with it, so +1. 

I'm re-sending this because it wasn't in the mail log due to technical
difficulties.

-Seb



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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -0600
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This case was approved at todays PSARC meeting.

Cheers,
Jim

-- 
Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker
Sun Microsystems, Broomfield, Colorado

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During pkgrti approval Alan Steinberg requested that the Pipe Viewer
package name be changed from SUNWpv to SUNWpipe-viewer so it would
be more descriptive for the user. Huajian from the project team agreed
with this change. I updated the proposal.txt file in the case directory
to show this change. This email documents this change, which I think
is under the threshold of needing a review.

Cheers,
Jim

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:31:09 -0700
From: "Garrett D'Amore" <gdamore@sun.com>
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Jim Walker wrote:
> During pkgrti approval Alan Steinberg requested that the Pipe Viewer
> package name be changed from SUNWpv to SUNWpipe-viewer so it would
> be more descriptive for the user. Huajian from the project team agreed
> with this change. I updated the proposal.txt file in the case directory
> to show this change. This email documents this change, which I think
> is under the threshold of needing a review.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
+1.  I should have complained about SUNWpv when it first came around 
anyway. :-)

(And ultimately, all these package names are going to be completely 
irrelevant when IPS replaces SVR4 packaging.)

    - Garrett

