From tedk@sac.sfbay.sun.com Wed Jun 17 15:27:45 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HMRiHH002969 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HMRfmG006245; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:27:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00701ME57R00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE0037PME5HC30@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HMRfJL000660; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HMRdDP002964; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tedk@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id n5HMRdnv002960; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Kim Subject: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 3032 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: New IPonIB dladm properties 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Venkatakrishnan Rajagopalan 1.3 Date of This Document: 17 June, 2009 4. Technical Description A. Problem IP-on-IB (PSARC/2001/289 and PSARC/2007/636) is implemented as the ibd(7D) driver in Solaris. When customers face problems in bringing up ibd(7d) instances on Solaris, they are advised to take a number of steps to gather information about the IPoIB link that results in usability issues. Users currently need to run cfgadm to obtain the port GUID information, search the system messages file to determine if the IPoIB broadcast group is present or not, do 'ls -l' on the /dev/ibd* nodes to determine the IB partition that an ibd instance belongs to. There are also instances when it is necessary to obtain the P_Key corresponding to the ibd instance and HCA that it is bound do. These operations require a combination of commands, parsing device names, message files and GIDs to obtain the answer. B. Solution We propose to add the following read-only Infiniband-specific properties to dladm that could be displayed via 'dladm show-ib'. These properties are well known to each ibd driver instance and it would be a simple matter for the driver to provide them to users via 'dladm show-ib'. After discussing things with the dladm team, we are advocating a media specific subcommand (show-ib) because these read-only items are very specific to InfiniBand mapping of IPonIB. Note that while broadcast is possibly on or off, the status cannot be changed from the host (only from the IB Subnet Manager). A sample 'dladm show-ib' output for an ibd instance would be like below: LINK PROPERTY VALUE POSSIBLE ibd0 partition ffff -- ibd0 broadcast on on,off ibd0 guid 2c9030001c86c -- These properties will apply only to data links of type DL_IB. The dladm manpage changes are submitted in the materials directory. A micro/patch binding is asserted for this proposal. C. Interface Changes +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Interface Classification Comments | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MAC_PROP_IB_PARTITION Consolidation Private P_Key value | | MAC_PROP_IB_BROADCAST Consolidation Private IPoIB broadcast group status | | MAC_PROP_IB_GUID Consolidation Private Port GUID | | "partition" Committed dladm property name | | "broadcast" Committed dladm property name | | "guid" Committed dladm property name | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Jun 17 15:53:39 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HMrcHI004830 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HMrWLp013218 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:53:37 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00903NLCVV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE003JGNLBY250@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5HMrZAD016770 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLE00M00NAIZE00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLE00NWWNKY0E80@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:52:15 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Ted Kim Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1879 On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:27 -0700, Ted Kim wrote: > B. Solution > > We propose to add the following read-only Infiniband-specific > properties to dladm that could be displayed via 'dladm show-ib'. > These properties are well known to each ibd driver instance and it > would be a simple matter for the driver to provide them to users via > 'dladm show-ib'. After discussing things with the dladm team, we are > advocating a media specific subcommand (show-ib) because these > read-only items are very specific to InfiniBand mapping of > IPonIB. Note that while broadcast is possibly on or off, the status > cannot be changed from the host (only from the IB Subnet Manager). > > A sample 'dladm show-ib' output for an ibd instance would be like below: > > LINK PROPERTY VALUE POSSIBLE > > ibd0 partition ffff -- > ibd0 broadcast on on,off > ibd0 guid 2c9030001c86c -- I don't have a problem with the properties themselves, but the output format seems rather strange. Presumably, the properties will show up in show-linkprop in a format similar (but not quite the same) as that as shown above, so it doesn't seem valuable to have this type of one-property per line format. Instead, I'd expect these properties to show up as follows in the show-linkprop output: LINK PROPERTY PERM VALUE DEFAULT POSSIBLE ibd0 partition r- ffff -- -- ibd0 broadcast r- on on on,off ibd0 guid r- 2c9030001c86c -- -- ibd1 partition r- ... Then, to make things more legible for IB-specific output (analogous to the show-ether Ethernet-specific output), something like this in show-ib: LINK PARTITION BROADCAST GUID ibd0 ffff on 2c9030001c86c ibd1 abcd off 2134123412341 ibd2 ... That way, we don't have a subcommand that is almost totally without value beyond what show-linkprop shows, and one can get a nice IB overview without too much clutter with show-ib. -Seb From Kais.Belgaied@sun.com Wed Jun 17 16:14:48 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HNElWU006640 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HNEg7E025185 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@Sun.COM>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:14:46 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00C09OKL8300@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.59]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE0037MOKLY570@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.146.11.146] (sr1-jurassic-03.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.146]) by jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5HNEiad121433; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:14:44 -0700 From: Kais Belgaied Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: Ted Kim Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com Reply-to: Kais.Belgaied@sun.com Message-id: <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) Status: RO Content-Length: 1214 On 06/17/09 15:27, Ted Kim wrote: > C. Interface Changes > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Interface Classification Comments | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | MAC_PROP_IB_PARTITION Consolidation Private P_Key value | > | MAC_PROP_IB_BROADCAST Consolidation Private IPoIB broadcast group status | > | MAC_PROP_IB_GUID Consolidation Private Port GUID | > | "partition" Committed dladm property name | > | "broadcast" Committed dladm property name | > | "guid" Committed dladm property name | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > the word property in the context of dladm heavily suggests a link property that can be set/gotten by dladm {set,get}-linkprop are these link props or are they rather non configurable attributes of the IB class of links? Kais. > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > ON > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > > > From Ted.Kim@sun.com Wed Jun 17 16:47:21 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HNlKSs010772 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HNlJWG045371 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00F0PQ2VYG00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:47:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE003UXQ2UY880@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:47:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5HNlICm011557 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLE00600PZ0KS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLE0062ZQ2RGDD0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:45:29 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> Sender: Ted.Kim@sun.com To: Sebastien Roy Cc: Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090311) Status: RO Content-Length: 1805 Seb, Maybe this is better, but I have question ... I imagine the one-line format works fine for the three properties we have now because they fit in 80 or so columns. But if for some reason we added more later would this present a problem with output that is too wide? Would we have to do something akin to what show-ether does? I gather you sort of get the basic info without -x. And then get "extended" stuff with -x ending up as multi-line output. I just want to understand if we are possibly committing to a future -x type solution too, if we go this way. -ted > I don't have a problem with the properties themselves, but the output > format seems rather strange. Presumably, the properties will show up in > show-linkprop in a format similar (but not quite the same) as that as > shown above, so it doesn't seem valuable to have this type of > one-property per line format. Instead, I'd expect these properties to > show up as follows in the show-linkprop output: > > LINK PROPERTY PERM VALUE DEFAULT POSSIBLE > ibd0 partition r- ffff -- -- > ibd0 broadcast r- on on on,off > ibd0 guid r- 2c9030001c86c -- -- > ibd1 partition r- ... > > Then, to make things more legible for IB-specific output (analogous to > the show-ether Ethernet-specific output), something like this in > show-ib: > > LINK PARTITION BROADCAST GUID > ibd0 ffff on 2c9030001c86c > ibd1 abcd off 2134123412341 > ibd2 ... > > That way, we don't have a subcommand that is almost totally without > value beyond what show-linkprop shows, and one can get a nice IB > overview without too much clutter with show-ib. -- Ted H. Kim Sun Microsystems, Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1120 FAX From Ted.Kim@sun.com Wed Jun 17 16:49:12 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5HNnCip010788 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5HNn5HQ046169 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:49:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE0090LQ5YE400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE001BIQ5XLQA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5HNn91H011899 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLE00600PZ0KS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLE006ODQ5TGDD0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:47:18 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> Sender: Ted.Kim@sun.com To: Kais.Belgaied@sun.com Cc: Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <4A398086.7020204@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090311) Status: RO Content-Length: 1672 They are the latter (non configurable). Is there a different terminolgy that should be used for that? -ted Kais Belgaied wrote: > On 06/17/09 15:27, Ted Kim wrote: >> C. Interface Changes >> >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> | Interface Classification Comments | >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> | MAC_PROP_IB_PARTITION Consolidation Private P_Key >> value | >> | MAC_PROP_IB_BROADCAST Consolidation Private IPoIB broadcast >> group status | >> | MAC_PROP_IB_GUID Consolidation Private Port >> GUID | >> | "partition" Committed dladm property name | >> | "broadcast" Committed dladm property name | >> | "guid" Committed dladm property name | >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> > the word property in the context of dladm heavily suggests a link > property that > can be set/gotten by dladm {set,get}-linkprop > > are these link props or are they rather non configurable attributes of > the IB class of links? > > Kais. > >> 6. Resources and Schedule >> 6.4. Steering Committee requested information >> 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: >> ON >> 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack >> 6.6. ARC Exposure: open >> >> >> > -- Ted H. Kim Sun Microsystems, Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1120 FAX From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Jun 17 18:10:54 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5I1Aslu013776 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5I1AqM8029588 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00207TY58U00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE001P6TY51000@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5I1Ardo024363 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:10:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLE00B00TQQ1K00@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLE00IQETY4NS50@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:09:45 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: "Ted H. Kim" Cc: Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <1245287385.10017.56.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1124 Hi Ted, On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 16:45 -0700, Ted H. Kim wrote: > Maybe this is better, but I have question ... > > I imagine the one-line format works fine for the three properties we > have now because they fit in 80 or so columns. But if for > some reason we added more later would this present a problem with > output that is too wide? > > Would we have to do something akin to what show-ether does? I gather > you sort of get the basic info without -x. And then get "extended" > stuff with -x ending up as multi-line output. > > I just want to understand if we are possibly committing to > a future -x type solution too, if we go this way. Right, either a -x, or another - that describes a specific mode of output where a different subset of columns are displayed, or simply that there would be optional columns that are only displayed if specified explicitly with -o. There could be a number of acceptable ways to deal with that. On that note, your case did not specify the full syntax of show-ib. I suspect it looks almost identical to the other show-* subcommands, but I'm just making sure. -Seb From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Jun 17 18:13:09 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5I1D9qs013811 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5I1D19N015041 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLE00L01U1W3B00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLE00B52U1VY070@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5I1D712025268 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:13:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLE00D00TYKW900@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLE00I8FU1UNS60@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:11:59 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A398086.7020204@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: "Ted H. Kim" Cc: Kais.Belgaied@sun.com, Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <1245287519.10017.59.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> <4A398086.7020204@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 691 On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 16:47 -0700, Ted H. Kim wrote: > Kais Belgaied wrote: > > the word property in the context of dladm heavily suggests a link > > property that > > can be set/gotten by dladm {set,get}-linkprop > > > > are these link props or are they rather non configurable attributes of > > the IB class of links? > > They are the latter (non configurable). > Is there a different terminolgy that should be used for that? > Hmm, are you sure that these are not simply link properties that happen to be read-only (implemented in the linkprop.c libdladm file)? Your earlier response to my mail implies this. I don't see why these wouldn't be read-only link properties. -Seb From peter.memishian@sun.com Thu Jun 18 01:28:09 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5I8S9EY021922 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5I8S7C1004874; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLF0032VE6VJX00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.108.208]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLF00527E6TUNB0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5IDUZOU007615; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from meem@localhost) by triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id n5IDUZUU007612; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:30:35 -0700 From: Peter Memishian Subject: re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] To: psarc-ext@sun.com Cc: sowmini.varadhan@sun.com Reply-to: peter.memishian@sun.com Message-id: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under 21.4 (patch 21) "Educational Television" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Authentication-warning: triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM: meem set sender to peter.memishian@sun.com using -f Status: RO Content-Length: 1351 Some background here: the original draft proposal for this case was for a set of read-only link properties, which Sowmini and I (and perhaps others) commented on. I asked Ted/Venki to instead build a show-ib subcommand because (a) it follows what we've already done with other media and (b) it seemed more convenient given that none of the things being modeled as properties could be administratively controlled. (I never saw the updated materials with the proposed output from show-ib; I agree with Seb's suggestion for the new output format.) Regarding also having administrative link properties: I see limited value in exposing inherently read-only things as link properties, as they clutter up the show-linkprop output and cannot be operated on by any of the other linkprop subcommands -- and the set of possible values is likely something better explained in a manpage. This is why the dladm/wifi case that introduced link properties had both a show-wifi subcommand and a smaller set of link properties that could be configured. (Note that there are still cases when a property may be read-only -- e.g., it may be that the property can only be set by some subset of drivers, or only if other bits of configuration are set a certain way.) I will concede that there are already some inherently read-only properties in dladm (grr). -- meem From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Thu Jun 18 06:54:43 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IDsgEh026678 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IDsSxS020285 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:54:41 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLF00003TB39X00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLF00F0ZTB3LF90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5IDscpW016520 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:54:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLF00200SZEIU00@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLF00FU7TB1SD50@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:53:30 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Peter.Memishian@sun.com Cc: psarc-ext@sun.com Message-id: <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Status: RO Content-Length: 1837 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 06:30 -0700, Peter Memishian wrote: > Some background here: the original draft proposal for this case was for a > set of read-only link properties, which Sowmini and I (and perhaps others) > commented on. I asked Ted/Venki to instead build a show-ib subcommand > because (a) it follows what we've already done with other media and (b) it > seemed more convenient given that none of the things being modeled as > properties could be administratively controlled. (I never saw the updated > materials with the proposed output from show-ib; I agree with Seb's > suggestion for the new output format.) > > Regarding also having administrative link properties: I see limited value > in exposing inherently read-only things as link properties, as they > clutter up the show-linkprop output and cannot be operated on by any of > the other linkprop subcommands -- and the set of possible values is likely > something better explained in a manpage. This is why the dladm/wifi case > that introduced link properties had both a show-wifi subcommand and a > smaller set of link properties that could be configured. (Note that there > are still cases when a property may be read-only -- e.g., it may be that > the property can only be set by some subset of drivers, or only if other > bits of configuration are set a certain way.) I will concede that there > are already some inherently read-only properties in dladm (grr). Okay, and I was evidently misled by Ted's acknowledgment of my previous mail message suggesting both show-linkprop and show-ib output. For the record, the proposal is for a show-ib subcommand only, and no link properties, right? Can the project team supply an updated proposal which clarifies some of the confusion and brings the output format up to date with what was discussed? Thanks, -Seb From peter.memishian@sun.com Thu Jun 18 09:36:42 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IGaefp001076 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IGaXoF016953; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:36:38 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG009150T1JG00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.108.208]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG0040C0T0XF70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5ILd6eL008423; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from meem@localhost) by triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id n5ILd6Q7008420; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:39:06 -0700 From: Peter Memishian Subject: re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: peter.memishian@sun.com, psarc-ext@sun.com Reply-to: peter.memishian@sun.com Message-id: <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under 21.4 (patch 21) "Educational Television" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> X-Authentication-warning: triplex.SFBay.Sun.COM: meem set sender to peter.memishian@sun.com using -f Status: RO Content-Length: 721 > Okay, and I was evidently misled by Ted's acknowledgment of my previous > mail message suggesting both show-linkprop and show-ib output. For the > record, the proposal is for a show-ib subcommand only, and no link > properties, right? Can the project team supply an updated proposal > which clarifies some of the confusion and brings the output format up to > date with what was discussed? I was a bit surprised to see this case filed since I thought Ted, Venki, Sowmini and I were still discussing the specifics of the proposal. Ted: can the IB team tie up these loose ends with Sowmini and myself offline, then come back to PSARC with an updated proposal? This shouldn't take very long. Thanks, -- meem From sowmini.varadhan@sun.com Thu Jun 18 10:01:17 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IH1GZe002729 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IH11t0000821 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:01:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG0070X1Y2DA00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-east-02.east.sun.com ([129.148.13.5]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00LIT1Y2ACC0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (quasimodo.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.94]) by dm-east-02.east.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IH1DhV033726; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5IGxLZa022748; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sowmini@localhost) by quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id n5IGxLoP022747; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:21 -0400 From: sowmini.varadhan@sun.com Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: Peter Memishian Cc: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20090618165921.GC22556@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Authentication-warning: quasimodo.East.Sun.COM: sowmini set sender to sowmini.varadhan@sun.com using -f User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2008-01-17) Status: RO Content-Length: 864 On (06/18/09 14:39), Peter Memishian wrote: > > Okay, and I was evidently misled by Ted's acknowledgment of my previous > > mail message suggesting both show-linkprop and show-ib output. For the > > record, the proposal is for a show-ib subcommand only, and no link > > properties, right? Can the project team supply an updated proposal > > which clarifies some of the confusion and brings the output format up to > > date with what was discussed? > > I was a bit surprised to see this case filed since I thought Ted, Venki, > Sowmini and I were still discussing the specifics of the proposal. > > Ted: can the IB team tie up these loose ends with Sowmini and myself > offline, then come back to PSARC with an updated proposal? This shouldn't > take very long. agreed. I also was thrown off by the references to linkprop in the PSARC case. --Sowmini From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Thu Jun 18 10:07:42 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IH7g7m003125 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IH7gbc004501 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00B0728T4500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG004J328RXLB0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5IH7clu002880 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:07:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLF00H00YF11A00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG00I9U28K4IE0@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:06:25 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <20090618165921.GC22556@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Sowmini.Varadhan@sun.com Cc: Peter Memishian , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <1245344785.27141.66.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20090618165921.GC22556@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> Status: RO Content-Length: 644 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 12:59 -0400, Sowmini.Varadhan@Sun.COM wrote: > On (06/18/09 14:39), Peter Memishian wrote: > > I was a bit surprised to see this case filed since I thought Ted, Venki, > > Sowmini and I were still discussing the specifics of the proposal. > > > > Ted: can the IB team tie up these loose ends with Sowmini and myself > > offline, then come back to PSARC with an updated proposal? This shouldn't > > take very long. > > agreed. I also was thrown off by the references to linkprop in the PSARC > case. Okay, I've gone ahead and marked the case "waiting need spec" while the new spec is being generated off-line. -Seb From gdamore@Sun.COM Thu Jun 18 11:22:09 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IIM9Lh008205 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IIM6Zg017269 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00F075OD7U00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00DJG5OCXD20@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5IILmZs002280 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG008004CE7E00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG00DIB5O65Q20@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:21:42 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Peter.Memishian@Sun.COM Cc: Sebastien Roy , psarc-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4A3A85B6.4030104@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081201) Status: RO Content-Length: 863 Peter Memishian wrote: > > Okay, and I was evidently misled by Ted's acknowledgment of my previous > > mail message suggesting both show-linkprop and show-ib output. For the > > record, the proposal is for a show-ib subcommand only, and no link > > properties, right? Can the project team supply an updated proposal > > which clarifies some of the confusion and brings the output format up to > > date with what was discussed? > > I was a bit surprised to see this case filed since I thought Ted, Venki, > Sowmini and I were still discussing the specifics of the proposal. > > Ted: can the IB team tie up these loose ends with Sowmini and myself > offline, then come back to PSARC with an updated proposal? This shouldn't > take very long. > > Thanks, > It sounds like the case owner should mark this "waiting need spec" in the meantime. - Garrett From Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM Thu Jun 18 11:29:05 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IIT5Wx008395 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IIT2A9020669 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00F1T60GP400@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00DMJ60GX620@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5IIT3eM016021 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:29:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG0020051O4V00@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG006Y5605HRA0@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT psarc-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:27:46 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A3A85B6.4030104@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Peter.Memishian@Sun.COM, psarc-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <1245349666.27141.104.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <19002.16763.610244.249498@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1245333210.27141.12.camel@strat> <19002.46074.260292.7419@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4A3A85B6.4030104@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 217 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:21 -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > It sounds like the case owner should mark this "waiting need spec" in > the meantime. Or anyone who gets to the IAM file first (already done). ;-) -Seb From Ted.Kim@Sun.COM Thu Jun 18 14:49:56 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5ILnuFX016825 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5ILntFU002228 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00813FB6LV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:49:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00EC3FB42TF0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5ILnpIt025675 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG00I00F2BZA00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG00CISFAUOHG0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:47:55 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <1245287385.10017.56.camel@strat> Sender: Ted.Kim@Sun.COM To: Sebastien Roy Cc: Ted Kim , psarc-ext@Sun.COM, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <4A3AB60B.4090405@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> <1245287385.10017.56.camel@strat> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090311) Status: RO Content-Length: 548 Seb, There is this change bar line in the revised man page: | dladm show-ib [[-p] -o field[,...]] [ipoib-link] which I think is more or less what show-ether has (modulo the -x) -ted > On that note, your case did not specify the full syntax of show-ib. I > suspect it looks almost identical to the other show-* subcommands, but > I'm just making sure. -- Ted H. Kim Sun Microsystems, Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1120 FAX From Ted.Kim@sun.com Thu Jun 18 14:54:09 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5ILs9sl017194 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5ILs8Xw004098 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00L0JFI8F400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00GHXFI8FH60@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5ILs8CD016885 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG00I00F2BZ900@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG0027XFI77510@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:52:19 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <1245287519.10017.59.camel@strat> Sender: Ted.Kim@sun.com To: Sebastien Roy Cc: Kais.Belgaied@sun.com, Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <4A3AB713.7000502@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> <4A398086.7020204@sun.com> <1245287519.10017.59.camel@strat> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090311) Status: RO Content-Length: 1227 Seb, I may not understanding something about the terminology, but I thought I said that. What is the right way to say "non-configurable" and/or "read-only" attribute w.r.t. dladm? Should the case not call them "dladm property name"? Should it say something else? My apologies if I am overlooking the obvious. -ted Sebastien Roy wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 16:47 -0700, Ted H. Kim wrote: >> Kais Belgaied wrote: >>> the word property in the context of dladm heavily suggests a link >>> property that >>> can be set/gotten by dladm {set,get}-linkprop >>> >>> are these link props or are they rather non configurable attributes of >>> the IB class of links? >> They are the latter (non configurable). >> Is there a different terminolgy that should be used for that? > > Hmm, are you sure that these are not simply link properties that happen > to be read-only (implemented in the linkprop.c libdladm file)? Your > earlier response to my mail implies this. I don't see why these > wouldn't be read-only link properties. > > -Seb -- Ted H. Kim Sun Microsystems, Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1120 FAX From sowmini.varadhan@sun.com Thu Jun 18 15:02:57 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IM2uH7017724 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IM2nGp024518 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:02:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00M0RFWUOY00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-east-02.east.sun.com ([129.148.13.5]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00G24FWTFJ70@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (quasimodo.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.94]) by dm-east-02.east.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IM2nUI026400; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5IM0tSt023280; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sowmini@localhost) by quasimodo.East.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id n5IM0tZW023279; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:55 -0400 From: sowmini.varadhan@sun.com Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A3AB60B.4090405@sun.com> To: "Ted H. Kim" Cc: Sebastien Roy , Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <20090618220055.GB23024@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> <1245287385.10017.56.camel@strat> <4A3AB60B.4090405@sun.com> X-Authentication-warning: quasimodo.East.Sun.COM: sowmini set sender to sowmini.varadhan@sun.com using -f User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2008-01-17) Status: RO Content-Length: 766 On (06/18/09 14:47), Ted H. Kim wrote: > Seb, > > There is this change bar line in the revised man page: > > | dladm show-ib [[-p] -o field[,...]] [ipoib-link] > > which I think is more or less what show-ether has > (modulo the -x) > > -ted > > >> On that note, your case did not specify the full syntax of show-ib. I >> suspect it looks almost identical to the other show-* subcommands, but >> I'm just making sure. > > I think the source of much of the confusion is the similarity between the proposed show-ib command and the existing show-linkprop. Would it not be simpler to have the output as LINK PARTITION BROADCAST GUID <...> ibd0 ffff on 2c9030001c86c (which also allows for more lines for ibd1 etc.) --Sowmini From Ted.Kim@sun.com Thu Jun 18 15:07:17 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IM7HhK017872 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5IM7HxL003614 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00509G45TW00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG001HPG44RA70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5IM7Gxl018499 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG00D00FTFJY00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG002QFG3S7550@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:05:16 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <20090618220055.GB23024@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> Sender: Ted.Kim@sun.com To: Sowmini.Varadhan@sun.com Cc: Sebastien Roy , Ted Kim , psarc-ext@sun.com, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <4A3ABA1C.1040901@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <1245279135.10017.46.camel@strat> <4A398019.4040207@sun.com> <1245287385.10017.56.camel@strat> <4A3AB60B.4090405@sun.com> <20090618220055.GB23024@quasimodo.East.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090311) Status: RO Content-Length: 764 > I think the source of much of the confusion is the similarity between > the proposed show-ib command and the existing show-linkprop. Would it > not be simpler to have the output as > > LINK PARTITION BROADCAST GUID <...> > ibd0 ffff on 2c9030001c86c > > (which also allows for more lines for ibd1 etc.) > > --Sowmini Yes this is more or less what Seb advocated in an earlier message. And I am agreeable to this, but I just want to be sure I am not missing something from the messages from Kais and Seb in terms of terminology. -ted -- Ted H. Kim Sun Microsystems, Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1120 FAX From Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM Thu Jun 18 17:41:43 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5J0fhqZ021266 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n5J0fhki026692 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KLG00L01N9JHT00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KLG00HVHN9JJKA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5J0fgU8014883 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:41:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KLG00D00MYZ7500@mail-amer.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLG00I9NN9IXT70@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:40:34 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: New IPonIB dladm properties [PSARC/2009/365 FastTrack timeout 06/24/2009] In-reply-to: <4A3AB713.7000502@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM To: "Ted H. Kim" Cc: Kais.Belgaied@Sun.COM, Ted Kim , psarc-ext@Sun.COM, Venki Rajagopalan Message-id: <1245372034.27141.134.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200906172227.n5HMRdnv002960@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4A3978E4.10603@Sun.COM> <4A398086.7020204@sun.com> <1245287519.10017.59.camel@strat> <4A3AB713.7000502@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 815 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 14:52 -0700, Ted H. Kim wrote: > I may not understanding something about the terminology, > but I thought I said that. What is the right > way to say "non-configurable" and/or "read-only" > attribute w.r.t. dladm? > > Should the case not call them "dladm property name"? > Should it say something else? The confusion isn't over whether or not these are read-only; but about whether or not you're implementing link properties that are visible through show-linkprop, or just using a private mechanism to obtain some values that are only displayed by show-ib. The term "link property" (as described in the dladm(1M) man page) refers to things displayed by show-linkprop. In any case, we can sort this out off-list and make sure that we have the details disambiguated in the new spec. -Seb From Ted.Kim@sun.com Sun Mar 14 19:54:44 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2F2siWx016445 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2F2shRb036072 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZA0040BYR79O00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZA006PLYR5P660@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2F2sf5E019239 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZA00I00YK1TY00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.153.3.74] ([unknown] [129.153.3.74]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZA00E1YYR4TLG0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:54:04 -0700 From: "Ted H. Kim" Subject: PSARC/2009/365 closed Sender: Ted.Kim@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: "Ted H. Kim" Message-id: <4B9DA14C.1020307@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 311 This case has been closed. It has been superseded by PSARC/2010/085. Further discussion should be directed there. -ted -- Ted H. Kim, PhD Sun/Oracle America Inc. ted.kim@sun.com 222 North Sepulveda Blvd., 10th Floor (310) 341-1116 El Segundo, CA 90245 (310) 341-1115 FAX