From gd78059@sac.sfbay.sun.com Tue Oct 6 20:17:10 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n973HADF007412 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id n973HA7N011476; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KR400B07JSMFD00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KR40073DJSMYP90@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n973HAOg021556; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n973H80P007407; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gd78059@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id n973H8da007403; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Subject: EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE [PSARC/2009/538 FastTrack timeout 10/14/2009] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <200910070317.n973H8da007403@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 2353 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Garrett D'Amore 1.3 Date of This Document: 06 October, 2009 4. Technical Description EOF for Douglas Platform (TAD,SPARCLE) -------------------------------------- Approximately 2.5 years ago, we integrated the basic platmod support for the Douglas platform (PSARC 2007/152), which is the Tadpole SPARCLE laptop. These laptops contain an UltraSPARC-IIe or IIi processor from 500 to 650 MHz. Even at that time, the platforms were a bit on the underpowered side. This laptop was very briefly marketed by Sun as the Sun Ultra 3, but it would appear that very few units were sold under this brand. (Those units shipped with a customized version of Solaris 10, provided by Tadpole.) Note that the Sun Ultra 3 was also used to cover mobile laptops from Naturetech, which are not affected by this case. However, the work was never complete, and most notably the power management code was never integrated, which is a significant feature deficiency. Unfortunately, the project team never found time to complete this work. And as processing speeds have increased, the platform has slowly declined into irrelevance. Additionally, the driver for the framebuffer used by this platform is not integrated into OpenSolaris, and there is no plan to resolve this. Hence, with the plan to EOF SXCE, this platform will essentially become mostly useless with OpenSolaris and Solaris.Next. (You'd still be able to use it in text mode, but I think most folks would agree that this is not a very usable situation for a laptop.) Hence, the project team would like to ask for permission to simply remove the support for the underlying platmod. As this platform has never been supported by production version of Solaris, we believe we can do this within the context of a fast track, with Minor patch binding, without advance notification. We will also remove the /platform/TAD,SPARCLE/ platform directories and associated links. 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From gdamore@Sun.COM Tue Oct 20 11:57:07 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KIv6Qb024381 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id n9KIv5Un009138 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRT00H0HTZ4UV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRT00HG3TZ1BI00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9KIv1uQ022441 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KRT00M00TR7X900@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRT001ABTZ14OG0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:01 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: PSARC-ext Message-id: <4ADE07FD.3050708@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 120 I didn't see any +1s on this, although the case timed out. Can I get a member to review this? Thanks. - Garrett From gww@sac.sfbay.sun.com Tue Oct 20 12:33:00 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KJWwLI025090 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9KJWquA018323; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:32:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRT00K01VMWBW00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRT004GTVMVK7B0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id n9KJWtTi024975; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KJWsrP025087; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gww@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id n9KJWrTt025086; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Winiger Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE To: PSARC-ext@sun.com, gdamore@sun.com Cc: glenn.faden@sun.com Message-id: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 1110 > I didn't see any +1s on this, although the case timed out. Can I get a > member to review this? The case states: > Approximately 2.5 years ago, we integrated the basic platmod support > for the Douglas platform (PSARC 2007/152), which is the Tadpole SPARCLE > laptop. These laptops contain an UltraSPARC-IIe or IIi processor from 500 to > 650 MHz. > > Even at that time, the platforms were a bit on the underpowered side. > > This laptop was very briefly marketed by Sun as the Sun Ultra 3, but it > would appear that very few units were sold under this brand. (Those units > shipped with a customized version of Solaris 10, provided by Tadpole.) > Note that the Sun Ultra 3 was also used to cover mobile laptops from > Naturetech, which are not affected by this case. And I'm aware that there is a "Tadpole" based on UltraSPARC IIIi that is still in use in some TX environments. I suspect such use would also carry over to Solaris Next with TX. How does this case affect that "Tadpole"? And if it does, have you checked with the TX folk on how that might affect those customers? Gary.. From gdamore@sun.com Tue Oct 20 12:40:58 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KJevd6025224 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9KJes80021755 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:40:57 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRT00M0TW069Y00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:40:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRT00H0GW05B630@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:40:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9KJerbK022402 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KRT00400VOXEF00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRT008R7W02HPG0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:50 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE In-reply-to: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Gary Winiger Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Glenn.Faden@sun.com Message-id: <4ADE1242.5060605@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 1893 Gary Winiger wrote: >> I didn't see any +1s on this, although the case timed out. Can I get a >> member to review this? >> > > The case states: > >> Approximately 2.5 years ago, we integrated the basic platmod support >> for the Douglas platform (PSARC 2007/152), which is the Tadpole SPARCLE >> laptop. These laptops contain an UltraSPARC-IIe or IIi processor from 500 to >> 650 MHz. >> >> Even at that time, the platforms were a bit on the underpowered side. >> >> This laptop was very briefly marketed by Sun as the Sun Ultra 3, but it >> would appear that very few units were sold under this brand. (Those units >> shipped with a customized version of Solaris 10, provided by Tadpole.) >> Note that the Sun Ultra 3 was also used to cover mobile laptops from >> Naturetech, which are not affected by this case. >> > > And I'm aware that there is a "Tadpole" based on UltraSPARC IIIi > that is still in use in some TX environments. I suspect such > use would also carry over to Solaris Next with TX. How does > this case affect that "Tadpole"? And if it does, have you checked > with the TX folk on how that might affect those customers? > It doesn't effect the Ultra IIIi systems at all... although we have never had support for them in Nevada. (They would have been identified as TAD,Viper most likely, although this "implementation" name covered some wildly differing Tadpole units, including the Bullfrog and Bullfrog 2 systems, which were not really laptops at all but rather "luggable" behemoths weighing in at over 20 lbs. Bullfrog 2 didn't even support a battery, since putting a battery in a system with a pair of UltraSPARC IIIi CPUs was ... not practical.) Are you sure that these systems are Tadpole systems? Naturetech had some UltraSPARC IIIi systems that were also sold under the Sun Ultra 3 brand. - Garrett > Gary.. > From Glenn.Faden@sun.com Tue Oct 20 12:57:42 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KJvfGT025922 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9KJvVeA002492 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:57:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRT00E07WS46100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRT003I4WS4FLE0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9KJvddR028881 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KRT00200WH2SG00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpn-129-150-176-222.central.sun.com ([unknown] [129.150.176.222]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRT00DOYWS3GI60@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:57:39 -0700 From: Glenn Faden Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE In-reply-to: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Glenn.Faden@sun.com To: Gary Winiger Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, gdamore@sun.com Message-id: <4ADE1633.2030509@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 1410 Gary Winiger wrote: >> I didn't see any +1s on this, although the case timed out. Can I get a >> member to review this? >> > > The case states: > >> Approximately 2.5 years ago, we integrated the basic platmod support >> for the Douglas platform (PSARC 2007/152), which is the Tadpole SPARCLE >> laptop. These laptops contain an UltraSPARC-IIe or IIi processor from 500 to >> 650 MHz. >> >> Even at that time, the platforms were a bit on the underpowered side. >> >> This laptop was very briefly marketed by Sun as the Sun Ultra 3, but it >> would appear that very few units were sold under this brand. (Those units >> shipped with a customized version of Solaris 10, provided by Tadpole.) >> Note that the Sun Ultra 3 was also used to cover mobile laptops from >> Naturetech, which are not affected by this case. >> > > And I'm aware that there is a "Tadpole" based on UltraSPARC IIIi > that is still in use in some TX environments. I suspect such > use would also carry over to Solaris Next with TX. How does > this case affect that "Tadpole"? And if it does, have you checked > with the TX folk on how that might affect those customers? > > Gary.. > Gary, The Tadpole systems that are listed in the DTW overview are VM2100's. They are apparently still being used for Solaris 10 deployments. The software running in these is apparently Solaris 10 with TX enabled. --Glenn From gdamore@Sun.COM Tue Oct 20 13:16:26 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KKGPTJ026410 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9KKGHbV016284 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:16:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRT00209XNBW300@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRT00497XNAKAD0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9KKGMhT000896 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KRT00H00XJ8OI00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRT004O4XN6C4C0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:18 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE In-reply-to: <4ADE1633.2030509@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Glenn Faden Cc: Gary Winiger , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4ADE1A92.1090002@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910201932.n9KJWrTt025086@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4ADE1633.2030509@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 2042 Glenn Faden wrote: > Gary Winiger wrote: >>> I didn't see any +1s on this, although the case timed out. Can I >>> get a member to review this? >>> >> >> The case states: >>> Approximately 2.5 years ago, we integrated the basic platmod support >>> for the Douglas platform (PSARC 2007/152), which is the Tadpole SPARCLE >>> laptop. These laptops contain an UltraSPARC-IIe or IIi processor >>> from 500 to >>> 650 MHz. >>> >>> Even at that time, the platforms were a bit on the underpowered side. >>> >>> This laptop was very briefly marketed by Sun as the Sun Ultra 3, but it >>> would appear that very few units were sold under this brand. (Those >>> units >>> shipped with a customized version of Solaris 10, provided by Tadpole.) >>> Note that the Sun Ultra 3 was also used to cover mobile laptops from >>> Naturetech, which are not affected by this case. >>> >> >> And I'm aware that there is a "Tadpole" based on UltraSPARC IIIi >> that is still in use in some TX environments. I suspect such >> use would also carry over to Solaris Next with TX. How does >> this case affect that "Tadpole"? And if it does, have you checked >> with the TX folk on how that might affect those customers? >> >> Gary.. >> > Gary, > > The Tadpole systems that are listed in the DTW overview are VM2100's. > They are apparently still being used for Solaris 10 deployments. The > software running in these is apparently Solaris 10 with TX enabled. This looks like a ruggedized version of the Bullfrog II. In any case, it is *not* impacted by this change. It is also most likely *not* supported by the stock versions of Nevada. It does not appear that Tadpole is still offering the SPARCLE. They do have the SPARCbook on their website still, and this is also based on the UltraSPARC IIi/IIe, but this product line uses a different platmod and uname -i, and is also not affected by this case. (That said, I'd be rather surprised if you can actually purchase a SPARCbook anymore...) - Garrett From Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM Wed Oct 21 05:16:32 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9LCGW5o025414 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9LCGD6u002382 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:16:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KRV00I0H63HSV00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KRV0095163FSH60@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9LCGPII022232 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KRV006005QPPK00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:16:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (cpc2-rdng20-2-0-cust917.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com [86.28.167.150]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRV00H3G62V4U80@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:16:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:16:07 +0100 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: PSARC 2009/538 EOF of Tadpole SPARCLE In-reply-to: <4ADE07FD.3050708@sun.com> Sender: Darren.Moffat@Sun.COM To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: PSARC-ext Message-id: <4ADEFB87.5060406@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4ADE07FD.3050708@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) Status: RO Content-Length: 223 Having read this case and PSARC/2007/152 I'm happy to give my +1 for this case EOF and removal case. I see no need to an announcement on this since it only ever appeared in the ONNV derived products -- Darren J Moffat