From gd78059@sac.sfbay.sun.com Sat Oct 24 20:30:24 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9P3UO99001635 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9P3UC6B019293; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:30:23 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KS100E05WEMJ300@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KS100COYWEMQ820@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id n9P3UMDX027749; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9P3ULue001630; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gd78059@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id n9P3UKZS001626; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Subject: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Garrett.Damore@sun.com Message-id: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 1077 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: EOF of bpp driver 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Garrett D'Amore 1.3 Date of This Document: 24 October, 2009 4. Technical Description EOF of bpp driver ----------------- The bpp device driver supports an Sbus based parallel port device, which was used in the Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 2 (and earlier) systems. More modern systems use the PCI based ecpp device. Note that recently the SBus based workstations were officially EOF'd (although code in ON still remains for them) and will not be supported in next release of Solaris. (See PSARC 2009/572.) Hence, we feel it is appropriate to remove the bpp driver from Nevada, as the driver will not be useful to users of OpenSolaris or Solaris Next. 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Artem.Kachitchkin@Sun.COM Sun Oct 25 14:56:03 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9PLu2Ro000161 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9PLtwHS015469 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:56:01 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KS300B01BLCPG00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KS3004QPBLBOP10@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9PLtxCH029993 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KS300A00BDW4U00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.64.159] ([unknown] [129.150.64.159]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KS300AE9BL9GX70@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:54:44 -0700 From: Artem Kachitchkine Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Artem.Kachitchkin@Sun.COM To: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Cc: PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM Message-id: <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 Gecko/20040113 Status: RO Content-Length: 392 > Hence, we feel it is appropriate to remove the bpp driver from Nevada, > as the driver will not be useful to users of OpenSolaris or Solaris Next. I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland (LP subsystem, 3rd party apps). -Artem From Garrett.Damore@sun.com Sun Oct 25 18:40:09 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9Q1e8GZ002512 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9Q1e5dG024074 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:40:07 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KS300A09LYT8A00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KS300EY4LYS9ND0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9Q1e4VZ003217 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KS300700LUCFC00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KS3007LYLYSGF90@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:03 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Artem Kachitchkine Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Reply-to: Garrett.Damore@sun.com Message-id: <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 650 Artem Kachitchkine wrote: > >> Hence, we feel it is appropriate to remove the bpp driver from Nevada, >> as the driver will not be useful to users of OpenSolaris or Solaris >> Next. > > I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will > happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are > currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland (LP > subsystem, 3rd party apps). > > -Artem If there are other consumers that depend on it, then I would *not* be removing the header file. To be honest, I hadn't tried searching with OpenGrok to find out who was using these header files. - Garrett From Mike.Oliver@sun.com Mon Oct 26 13:38:32 2009 Received: from sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (sunmail4.Singapore.Sun.COM [129.158.71.19]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9QKcVi8007288 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail4.singapore.sun.com (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9QKcKd6017030 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:38:30 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KS5005032O5DE00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KS5002PV2O4M720@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9QKcSnv001406 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KS5003002EDWL00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunray4.SFBay.Sun.COM ([unknown] [10.6.102.104]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KS500JXB2O4IO40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:28 -0700 From: Mike Oliver Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> Sender: Mike.Oliver@sun.com To: Garrett.Damore@sun.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080119) Status: RO Content-Length: 767 Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Artem Kachitchkine wrote: >> >>> Hence, we feel it is appropriate to remove the bpp driver from Nevada, >>> as the driver will not be useful to users of OpenSolaris or Solaris >>> Next. >> >> I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will >> happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are >> currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland (LP >> subsystem, 3rd party apps). >> >> -Artem > If there are other consumers that depend on it, then I would *not* be > removing the header file. To be honest, I hadn't tried searching with > OpenGrok to find out who was using these header files. Sun Ray's parallel port driver depends on . Mike. -- mike.oliver@sun.com From Garrett.Damore@sun.com Mon Oct 26 14:02:52 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9QL2p0b008178 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id n9QL2F8r026006 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:02:51 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KS5007013SQY700@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KS5002NZ3SPM630@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n9QL2nVX004160 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KS500J003P09D00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KS500JJE3SNIOE0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:47 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Mike Oliver Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Reply-to: Garrett.Damore@sun.com Message-id: <4AE60E77.2070604@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 896 Mike Oliver wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> Artem Kachitchkine wrote: >>> >>>> Hence, we feel it is appropriate to remove the bpp driver from Nevada, >>>> as the driver will not be useful to users of OpenSolaris or Solaris >>>> Next. >>> >>> I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will >>> happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are >>> currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland >>> (LP subsystem, 3rd party apps). >>> >>> -Artem >> If there are other consumers that depend on it, then I would *not* be >> removing the header file. To be honest, I hadn't tried searching >> with OpenGrok to find out who was using these header files. > > Sun Ray's parallel port driver depends on . That's fine. It looks like I'll be leaving the header in place. I've no problem with that. - Garrett > > Mike. From Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM Wed Nov 4 07:36:41 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA4FafNY001835 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nA4FafPp022849 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KSL00401CP5P100@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KSL00LP0COZSW90@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA4FaZGc004478 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:36:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KSL00G00ATNJI00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:36:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSL007WACO6TH10@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:36:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:33:32 -0500 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <4AE60E77.2070604@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@Sun.COM To: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM Cc: Mike Oliver , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <1257348812.26975.6.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> <4AE60E77.2070604@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1117 On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:02 -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Mike Oliver wrote: > > Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> Artem Kachitchkine wrote: > >>> I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will > >>> happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are > >>> currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland > >>> (LP subsystem, 3rd party apps). > >>> > >>> -Artem > >> If there are other consumers that depend on it, then I would *not* be > >> removing the header file. To be honest, I hadn't tried searching > >> with OpenGrok to find out who was using these header files. > > > > Sun Ray's parallel port driver depends on . > > That's fine. It looks like I'll be leaving the header in place. I've > no problem with that. The header file defines a bunch of ioctls that are no longer usable given that this case removes the device that implements them. What do we gain from leaving the header file behind? If it's just to save a few developers from having to remove a single #include from their source code, then is it really worth it? -Seb From Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM Wed Nov 4 08:21:43 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA4GLgS0002794 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id nA4GLcmc023821 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:21:42 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KSL00D11ES4XT00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KSL007WJES2YM90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA4GLc52024083 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KSL00800ELR5100@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSL005Q3ERSFO90@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:21:28 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <1257348812.26975.6.camel@strat> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Sebastien Roy Cc: Mike Oliver , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Reply-to: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM Message-id: <4AF1AA08.4030600@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> <4AE60E77.2070604@sun.com> <1257348812.26975.6.camel@strat> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 1330 Sebastien Roy wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:02 -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> Mike Oliver wrote: >> >>> Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> >>>> Artem Kachitchkine wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think this case would benefit from explicitly stating what will >>>>> happen to and the interfaces it defines. There are >>>>> currently consumers in the kernel (ecpp, usbprn) and the userland >>>>> (LP subsystem, 3rd party apps). >>>>> >>>>> -Artem >>>>> >>>> If there are other consumers that depend on it, then I would *not* be >>>> removing the header file. To be honest, I hadn't tried searching >>>> with OpenGrok to find out who was using these header files. >>>> >>> Sun Ray's parallel port driver depends on . >>> >> That's fine. It looks like I'll be leaving the header in place. I've >> no problem with that. >> > > The header file defines a bunch of ioctls that are no longer usable > given that this case removes the device that implements them. What do > we gain from leaving the header file behind? If it's just to save a few > developers from having to remove a single #include from their source > code, then is it really worth it? > No, other drivers use this header to implement the same ioctls. - Garrett > -Seb > > > From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Nov 4 08:26:34 2009 Received: from sunmail5.uk.sun.com (sunmail5.UK.Sun.COM [129.156.85.165]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA4GQXIr003117 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail5.uk.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id nA4GQUh0027067 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:26:32 GMT Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KSL00E03F067R00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KSL0077BF06YQ90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA4GQTWc027402 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:26:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KSL00N00ET91500@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:26:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSL002KUF05ZP80@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:26:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:23:55 -0500 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: EOF of bpp driver [PSARC/2009/581 FastTrack timeout 10/31/2009] In-reply-to: <4AF1AA08.4030600@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Garrett.Damore@sun.com Cc: Mike Oliver , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <1257351835.26975.28.camel@strat> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200910250330.n9P3UKZS001626@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4AE4C924.5070101@sun.com> <4AE4FDF3.5070803@sun.com> <4AE608C4.90204@sun.com> <4AE60E77.2070604@sun.com> <1257348812.26975.6.camel@strat> <4AF1AA08.4030600@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 566 On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 08:21 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Sebastien Roy wrote: > > The header file defines a bunch of ioctls that are no longer usable > > given that this case removes the device that implements them. What do > > we gain from leaving the header file behind? If it's just to save a few > > developers from having to remove a single #include from their source > > code, then is it really worth it? > > > > No, other drivers use this header to implement the same ioctls. Ah, I see. That wasn't immediately clear to me. +1 on the case. -Seb From gdamore@sun.com Wed Nov 4 10:16:20 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA4IGJmg008810 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id nA4IGCZ0002826 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:16:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KSL00K0NK37HI00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KSL00HUYK35VG80@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA4IGHfB000531 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KSL00100JAMQP00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSL00BHDK35P0H0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:16 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: PSARC 2009/581 EOF of bpp driver Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: PSARC-ext Message-id: <4AF1C4F0.4030106@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) Status: RO Content-Length: 55 This case was approved at PSARC today. -- Garrett