From gd78059@sac.sfbay.sun.com Mon Dec 21 18:55:23 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBM2tNOt027254 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBM2tMCu018282; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV100J019GAD000@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV100DF79GAR640@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBM2tLsQ005140; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBM2tJtc027249; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gd78059@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id nBM2tJFv027245; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Subject: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Dan.Mick@sun.com Message-id: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 3501 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Serial Port Console Redirection 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Daniel Mick 1.3 Date of This Document: 21 December, 2009 4. Technical Description PROBLEM: x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to query the BIOS settings for serial console. Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). SOLUTION: Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. IMPLEMENTATION Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial port and mode (for example, "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look like: kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for diagnostic purposes. This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step on SPARC). SUMMARY OF CHANGE 1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' 2) new Grub command 'spcr' 3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From John.Fischer@sun.com Tue Dec 22 08:31:04 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMGV4Sb022818 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMGUrir018788 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV2002I1B7GHO00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200IHVB7COW90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMGUmn4006508 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:30:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200K00AYIHW00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:30:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([unknown] [76.20.56.122]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV200A8XB7B3T50@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:30:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:30:39 -0800 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: John.Fischer@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Reply-to: John.Fischer@sun.com Message-id: <4B30F42F.90309@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091124) Status: RO Content-Length: 4312 Garrett, The timeout seems a little quick for a short work week especially since there are numerous folks on vacation this week. Is there a reason why the timeout wasn't a little longer? Also what are the interface taxonomy classifications for the imported and exported interfaces? I did not see anything mentioned. Should we expect another case to resolve the 2 step process on the SPARC platform? Or should that be considered a bug that can be fixed at anytime? Thanks, John Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI > This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Serial Port Console Redirection > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Daniel Mick > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 21 December, 2009 > 4. Technical Description > > PROBLEM: > > x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early > boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, > configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been > unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to > query the BIOS settings for serial console. > > Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in > Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over > (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with > VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial > consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial > console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). > > SOLUTION: > > Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called > SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this > table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to > match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this > information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial > console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual > configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. > > IMPLEMENTATION > > Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new > keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; > it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial > port and mode (for example, > "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the > normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") > as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, > OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look > like: > > kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE > > In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the > settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for > diagnostic purposes. > > This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also > changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently > configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out > that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the > preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like > for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly > one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on > SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then > ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers > take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in > /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't > yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step > on SPARC). > > SUMMARY OF CHANGE > > 1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' > 2) new Grub command 'spcr' > 3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs > > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > ON > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-arc mailing list > opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org From gdamore@sun.com Tue Dec 22 09:07:49 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMH7npX023523 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMH7mxv000500 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200G0XCX1UE00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:07:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200C3QCWZ3C40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:07:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMH7lOx017362 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200H00CH6AU00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV2007PUCWY49G0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:07:46 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B30F42F.90309@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: John.Fischer@sun.com Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B30FCE2.5040206@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B30F42F.90309@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091013) Status: RO Content-Length: 5550 John Fischer wrote: > Garrett, > > The timeout seems a little quick for a short work week especially > since there are numerous folks on vacation this week. Is there a > reason why the timeout wasn't a little longer? I just set it for the default one week. If someone says "want more time", or the case doesn't appear to receive review, then it will be extended. I don't think there is any particular urgency here. > > Also what are the interface taxonomy classifications for the imported > and exported interfaces? I did not see anything mentioned. Good point. I think the imported SPCR interface in BIOS is specified by the ACPI specification, and falls outside of PSARC classification. I'm guessing that $CONSOLE is probably meant to be a newly exported Committed interface. The actual contents of $CONSOLE appear to be imported from the previous kernel boot command arguments. I'm not sure of their existing stability, but my first guess here is also Committed. The changes to /etc/ttydefs are not themselves an interface, but simply a change to the delivered defaults. So no interface changes there. spcr should probably be Uncommitted (my opinion), but I'll let the project team (Dan Mick) specify for sure. Dan, can you comment here? > > Should we expect another case to resolve the 2 step process on > the SPARC platform? Or should that be considered a bug that > can be fixed at anytime? I'd consider it a bug or rfe to be fixed anytime after this project integrates, without a need to come back to PSARC. (Or, if needed, could be done via a self-review case.) - Garrett > > Thanks, > > John > > > Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: >> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI >> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems >> 1. Introduction >> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >> Serial Port Console Redirection >> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >> Author: Daniel Mick >> 1.3 Date of This Document: >> 21 December, 2009 >> 4. Technical Description >> >> PROBLEM: >> >> x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early >> boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, >> configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been >> unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to >> query the BIOS settings for serial console. >> >> Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in >> Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over >> (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with >> VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial >> consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial >> console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). >> SOLUTION: >> >> Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called >> SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this >> table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to >> match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this >> information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial >> console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual >> configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. >> >> IMPLEMENTATION >> >> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >> port and mode (for example, >> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >> like: >> >> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >> >> In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the >> settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for >> diagnostic purposes. >> >> This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also >> changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently >> configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out >> that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the >> preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like >> for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly >> one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on >> SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then >> ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers >> take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in >> /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't >> yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step >> on SPARC). >> >> SUMMARY OF CHANGE >> >> 1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' >> 2) new Grub command 'spcr' >> 3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs >> >> >> >> >> 6. Resources and Schedule >> 6.4. Steering Committee requested information >> 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: >> ON >> 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack >> 6.6. ARC Exposure: open >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-arc mailing list >> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org From Nicolas.Williams@sun.com Tue Dec 22 09:16:47 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMHGlIG023600 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMHGgc4005840; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200H1DDBYPN00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:16:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from binky.Central.Sun.COM ([129.153.128.104]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200C68DBY3E60@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:16:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from binky.Central.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by binky.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBMHGggr011099; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:16:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from nw141292@localhost) by binky.Central.Sun.COM (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id nBMHGg4i011098; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:16:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:16:42 -0600 From: Nicolas Williams Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Dan.Mick@sun.com Message-id: <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> X-Authentication-warning: binky.Central.Sun.COM: nw141292 set sender to Nicolas.Williams@sun.com using -f User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i Status: RO Content-Length: 891 On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: > Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new > keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; > it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial > port and mode (for example, > "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the > normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") > as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, > OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look > like: > > kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and OpenSolaris? Are the changes to grub going back upstream? Nico -- From gdamore@sun.com Tue Dec 22 09:26:47 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMHQlG1023652 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMHQkpq063256 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:26:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200A0BDSMX100@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200C38DSLPYA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMHQj34019217 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200700DRE5000@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV200D6EDSL7560@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:26:44 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Nicolas Williams Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Dan.Mick@sun.com Message-id: <4B310154.4000004@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091013) Status: RO Content-Length: 1235 Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: > >> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >> port and mode (for example, >> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >> like: >> >> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >> > > How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or > console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and > OpenSolaris? > > Are the changes to grub going back upstream? > I think it will be different for the different builds, but I'm not sure. I don't think this case is changing *that* (the default value being different between OpenSolaris and Nevada). That said, it may soon be moot as SXCE is supposed to be stopping soon. - Garrett > Nico > From Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com Tue Dec 22 10:12:07 2009 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMIC7wh024371 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMIC6wc029666 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV20004BFW6BH00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200CQ2FW53G90@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:12:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMIC4qQ025581 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:12:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200B00FR3BA00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:11:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [81.187.162.109] ([unknown] [81.187.162.109]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV2007Z4FVKAS10@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:11:45 +0000 From: Andrew Gabriel Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Dan.Mick@sun.com Message-id: <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) Status: RO Content-Length: 1455 Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: > IMPLEMENTATION > > Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new > keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; > it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial > port and mode (for example, > "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the > normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") > as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, > OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look > like: > > kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE > > In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the > settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for > diagnostic purposes. > > This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also > changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently > configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out > that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the > preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like > for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly > one place: the BIOS. You should probably take CR 6206504 "ttymon has no business changing the serial console baud rate at first login: prompt" under the project's wing. -- Cheers Andrew From gdamore@sun.com Tue Dec 22 10:15:18 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMIFIY0024393 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMIFHgO034841 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:15:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200803G1HGE00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV2006TKG1H6730@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMIFGrf024600 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200700FNHTS00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV200L1VG168F60@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:06 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Andrew Gabriel Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Dan.Mick@sun.com Message-id: <4B310CAA.4050808@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091013) Status: RO Content-Length: 1544 Andrew Gabriel wrote: > Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: >> IMPLEMENTATION >> >> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >> port and mode (for example, >> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >> like: >> >> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >> >> In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the >> settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for >> diagnostic purposes. >> >> This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also >> changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently >> configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out >> that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the >> preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like >> for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly >> one place: the BIOS. > > You should probably take CR 6206504 "ttymon has no business changing > the serial console baud rate at first login: prompt" under the > project's wing. Thanks. I hope Dan will do that. - Garrett From Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM Tue Dec 22 10:25:07 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMIP77H024486 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMIP6E5014196 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV20011DGHVLN00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200CYVGHSQAD0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMIP4Tl027677 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200200GDLLR00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.6.102.27] ([unknown] [10.6.102.27]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV200LCCGHR8F90@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:03 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B310154.4000004@sun.com> Sender: Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Nicolas Williams , "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Dan.Mick@Sun.COM Message-id: <4B310EFF.4000903@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> <4B310154.4000004@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 832 Garrett D'Amore wrote: > I think it will be different for the different builds, but I'm not > sure. I don't think this case is changing *that* (the default value > being different between OpenSolaris and Nevada). That said, it may soon > be moot as SXCE is supposed to be stopping soon. Part of the ON-IPS project currently underway is merging the OpenSolaris customizations to ON back into the main ON Nevada gate, since after they're done there will be just one Nevada build train, distributed as IPS packages in the style of OpenSolaris. You can see this in their current project gate on hg.opensolaris.org. (Exact schedule and details of that integration are TBD at the moment, but that's not this case.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From gdamore@Sun.COM Tue Dec 22 10:48:29 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMImSD2024569 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMImRih064720 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:48:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV20061PHKRFD00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV2004TGHKRV900@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMImRtQ000098 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KV200M00HHXKE00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KV2000QLHKL77E0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:48:21 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B310CAA.4050808@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Andrew Gabriel Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Dan.Mick@Sun.COM Message-id: <4B311475.8070506@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> <4B310CAA.4050808@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091013) Status: RO Content-Length: 222 I've reset the timeout on this case to Jan 4, 2004. That should not be too onerous on the project team, and it allows for folks who may be out either this week or next (but not both) a chance to review. - Garrett From dan.mick@Sun.COM Tue Dec 22 13:49:43 2009 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMLnhQx028177 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLngg0022873; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200L07PYURI00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:49:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.198]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200K78PYU0D10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:49:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.150.241.253] (vpn-129-150-241-253.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.241.253]) by dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLnf62018011; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:44 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B30FCE2.5040206@sun.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: John.Fischer@Sun.COM, "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4B313EF8.1080302@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B30F42F.90309@sun.com> <4B30FCE2.5040206@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 5849 >> Also what are the interface taxonomy classifications for the imported >> and exported interfaces? I did not see anything mentioned. > > Good point. I think the imported SPCR interface in BIOS is specified by > the ACPI specification, and falls outside of PSARC classification. Specified by a Microsoft document, outside ACPI, but yes. (I've had the use of the information in the document cleared by Sun Legal, before anyone asks.) > I'm guessing that $CONSOLE is probably meant to be a newly exported > Committed interface. Right. > The actual contents of $CONSOLE appear to be imported from the previous > kernel boot command arguments. I'm not sure of their existing > stability, but my first guess here is also Committed. I'd have to guess; I'm not changing their committment level in any event. > The changes to /etc/ttydefs are not themselves an interface, but simply > a change to the delivered defaults. So no interface changes there. > > spcr should probably be Uncommitted (my opinion), but I'll let the > project team (Dan Mick) specify for sure. Right. The 'spcr' command is just for convenience and diagnosis, only useful to humans, and may change or go away. > Dan, can you comment here? > >> >> Should we expect another case to resolve the 2 step process on >> the SPARC platform? Or should that be considered a bug that >> can be fixed at anytime? > > I'd consider it a bug or rfe to be fixed anytime after this project > integrates, without a need to come back to PSARC. (Or, if needed, could > be done via a self-review case.) Yes, it's a bug (well, bugs). The fixes would be to all the applicable SPARC serial drivers, to note that, on console devices, let the property values supply the default settings rather than the options.conf parsing. > - Garrett >> >> Thanks, >> >> John >> >> >> Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: >>> Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI >>> This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems >>> 1. Introduction >>> 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: >>> Serial Port Console Redirection >>> 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: >>> Author: Daniel Mick >>> 1.3 Date of This Document: >>> 21 December, 2009 >>> 4. Technical Description >>> >>> PROBLEM: >>> >>> x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early >>> boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, >>> configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been >>> unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to >>> query the BIOS settings for serial console. >>> >>> Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in >>> Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over >>> (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with >>> VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial >>> consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial >>> console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). >>> SOLUTION: >>> >>> Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called >>> SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this >>> table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to >>> match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this >>> information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial >>> console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual >>> configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. >>> >>> IMPLEMENTATION >>> >>> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >>> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >>> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >>> port and mode (for example, >>> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >>> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >>> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >>> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >>> like: >>> >>> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >>> >>> In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the >>> settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for >>> diagnostic purposes. >>> >>> This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also >>> changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently >>> configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out >>> that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the >>> preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like >>> for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly >>> one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on >>> SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then >>> ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers >>> take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in >>> /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't >>> yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step >>> on SPARC). >>> >>> SUMMARY OF CHANGE >>> >>> 1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' >>> 2) new Grub command 'spcr' >>> 3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 6. Resources and Schedule >>> 6.4. Steering Committee requested information >>> 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: >>> ON >>> 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack >>> 6.6. ARC Exposure: open >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-arc mailing list >>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org > From dan.mick@sun.com Tue Dec 22 13:50:51 2009 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMLoo8s028199 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLonj0013075 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:50:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200309Q0PJR00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.198]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV2004KSQ0PVJC0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.241.253] (vpn-129-150-241-253.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.241.253]) by dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLolqr018526; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:50:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:50:50 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> To: Nicolas Williams Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B313F3A.70807@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 1152 Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: >> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >> port and mode (for example, >> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >> like: >> >> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE > > How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or > console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and > OpenSolaris? Yes, if the OpenSolaris transition hasn't taken over by the time of putback. > Are the changes to grub going back upstream? Probably not; something similar but different will be included in Grub2, which is on its way, but not ready soon enough to hold off this change. From dan.mick@sun.com Tue Dec 22 13:51:32 2009 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMLpWV1028218 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLpVxs028097 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200M0LQ1W0C00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.198]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200K7DQ1V1310@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.150.241.253] (vpn-129-150-241-253.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.241.253]) by dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMLpTsx018830; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:51:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:51:32 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> To: Andrew Gabriel Cc: "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B313F64.7020002@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B310BE1.5080405@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 260 > You should probably take CR 6206504 "ttymon has no business changing the > serial console baud rate at first login: prompt" under the project's wing. I can't imagine I didn't write that. It sounds just like me. ;) but yes, I'll take that one. Thanks. From bart.smaalders@sun.com Tue Dec 22 14:02:04 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMM24P7028833 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMM22Qu005578; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:02:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200N2RQJE3K00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:02:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from zion.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.75]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200JGAQJBZX10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:02:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.146.228.109] (cyber.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.228.109]) by zion.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBMM0O0W018169; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:00:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:59:57 -0800 From: Bart Smaalders Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B313F3A.70807@sun.com> To: Dan Mick Cc: Nicolas Williams , "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B31415D.7070508@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> <4B313F3A.70807@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091124) Status: RO Content-Length: 1354 Dan Mick wrote: > Nicolas Williams wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun >> microsystems wrote: >>> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >>> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >>> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >>> port and mode (for example, >>> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >>> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >>> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >>> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >>> like: >>> >>> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >> >> How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or >> console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and >> OpenSolaris? > > Yes, if the OpenSolaris transition hasn't taken over by the time of > putback. OpenSolaris doesn't recompile anything right now... why would we remove functionality such that this would have to change? How does this interact w/ the VESA console project? - Bart -- Bart Smaalders Solaris Kernel Performance barts@cyber.eng.sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/barts "You will contribute more with mercurial than with thunderbird." From carlsonj@workingcode.com Tue Dec 22 14:10:43 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMMAhYr028862 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMMAfeM011733; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:10:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200M09QXT1W00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200FJGQXRHOC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay41i.sun.com ([192.5.209.70]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nBMM48Dt014403; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp42es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.221.11] [160.41.221.11]) by relay41i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3381243; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:10:38 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay44i.sun.com (relay44i.sun.com [192.5.209.118]) by mmp42es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-10208086; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:10:38 +0000 (Z) Received: from carlson.workingcode.com ([75.150.68.97] [75.150.68.97]) by relay4i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-20863560; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:10:38 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.50.24.188] (gate.abinitio.com [65.170.40.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by carlson.workingcode.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBMMAbg6025142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:10:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:10:37 -0500 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B313EF8.1080302@sun.com> To: Dan Mick Cc: "Garrett D'Amore" , PSARC-ext@sun.com, "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Message-id: <4B3143DD.604@workingcode.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: carlson; whitelist X-Antispam: No, score=-0.2/5.0, scanned in 0.115sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B30F42F.90309@sun.com> <4B30FCE2.5040206@sun.com> <4B313EF8.1080302@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090605) Status: RO Content-Length: 1253 Dan Mick wrote: > >>> Also what are the interface taxonomy classifications for the imported >>> and exported interfaces? I did not see anything mentioned. >> >> Good point. I think the imported SPCR interface in BIOS is specified >> by the ACPI specification, and falls outside of PSARC classification. > > Specified by a Microsoft document, outside ACPI, but yes. (I've had the > use of the information in the document cleared by Sun Legal, before > anyone asks.) It doesn't "fall outside of PSARC." That suggestion from the previous poster just makes no sense. It's merely yet another external reference, just like POSIX or any other externally written interface. Treat it as Committed with a reference to the location and/or precise name of the standard, and move on. Please don't confuse the reviewer's ability (or inability) to change things with any notion of classification scope or lines of responsibility. Read-only references are just fine here. (And you generally can't import from a document, because they're not executable. It's probable that this case or some case related to it actually 'exports' [defines for use in OpenSolaris] this interface.) -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W From dan.mick@sun.com Tue Dec 22 14:51:12 2009 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBMMpBI4029081 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMMpB32017298 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:51:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200J05STBBU00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.198]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200F6NSTA5K60@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.241.253] (vpn-129-150-241-253.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.241.253]) by dm-eng-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBMMpAAp020027; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:51:13 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B31415D.7070508@Sun.COM> To: Bart Smaalders Cc: Nicolas Williams , "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B314D61.40908@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> <4B313F3A.70807@sun.com> <4B31415D.7070508@Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 1839 Bart Smaalders wrote: > Dan Mick wrote: >> Nicolas Williams wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun >>> microsystems wrote: >>>> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >>>> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; >>>> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial >>>> port and mode (for example, >>>> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >>>> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >>>> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >>>> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >>>> like: >>>> >>>> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >>> >>> How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or >>> console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and >>> OpenSolaris? >> >> Yes, if the OpenSolaris transition hasn't taken over by the time of >> putback. > > OpenSolaris doesn't recompile anything right now... why would we > remove functionality such that this would have to change? Don't know what you mean by remove. The alternative choice of "text" or "graphics" is dictated by the default of the particular flavor of boot in the distro we're constructing. Right now, OpenSolaris and Nevada differ in their defaults. When Nevada-or-what-it-becomes changes default, then so will this. That might be pre-push. > How does this interact w/ the VESA console project? I'm talking with Jan and Enrico; as far as I can see, that project changes how 'console=graphics' is implemented, but not that it is. In the case of "SPCR indicates serial", VESA mode will also be disabled just as 'VGA graphics' is disabled in the current prototype. From setje@sun.com Tue Dec 22 16:18:57 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBN0Ivof015495 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBN0IuMF026465; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:18:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV200707WVKK000@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.17.63]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV200177WVKWP40@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.146.226.114] (smack.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.114]) by jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBN0ItoP983950; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:18:55 -0800 From: Jan Setje-Eilers Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B314D61.40908@sun.com> To: Dan Mick Cc: Bart Smaalders , PSARC-ext@sun.com, "Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems" Message-id: <4B3161EF.2000805@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <200912220255.nBM2tJFv027245@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <20091222171641.GB1516@Sun.COM> <4B313F3A.70807@sun.com> <4B31415D.7070508@Sun.COM> <4B314D61.40908@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091124) Status: RO Content-Length: 3124 Dan Mick wrote: > Bart Smaalders wrote: >> Dan Mick wrote: >>> Nicolas Williams wrote: >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:55:19PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore - sun >>>> microsystems wrote: >>>>> Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new >>>>> keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in >>>>> menu.lst; >>>>> it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate >>>>> serial >>>>> port and mode (for example, >>>>> "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the >>>>> normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") >>>>> as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, >>>>> OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look >>>>> like: >>>>> >>>>> kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE >>>> >>>> How will grub know whether to expand $CONSOLE to console=text or >>>> console=graphics? Will grub be built differently for Nevada and >>>> OpenSolaris? >>> >>> Yes, if the OpenSolaris transition hasn't taken over by the time of >>> putback. >> >> OpenSolaris doesn't recompile anything right now... why would we >> remove functionality such that this would have to change? > > Don't know what you mean by remove. The alternative choice of "text" or > "graphics" is dictated by the default of the particular flavor of boot > in the distro we're constructing. Right now, OpenSolaris and Nevada > differ in their defaults. When Nevada-or-what-it-becomes changes > default, then so will this. That might be pre-push. To clear up some confusion, console=graphics is not the default for openSolaris or Nevada media. openSolaris media does not set is as it requires (required?) console interaction to set things like locale and keyboard type. There are two problems that need to be solved in order to enable console=graphics as the default: 1) Don't break systems with serial console redirection. This project solves that problem in addition to automatically allowing the OS console to inherit any serial settings from the platform firmware configuration (which is really cool BTW). 2) Automatically display any text that may need interaction on console when it does. That becomes possible with the VESA console (PSARC/2009/415). Once both projects are integrated $CONSOLE can default to "graphics". Prior to that it must default to "text". If we really wanted this to be a distro configurable behavior, we could work out a way to set a default in the menu file. However I really don't think we require that level of control. >> How does this interact w/ the VESA console project? > > I'm talking with Jan and Enrico; as far as I can see, that project > changes how 'console=graphics' is implemented, but not that it is. In > the case of "SPCR indicates serial", VESA mode will also be disabled > just as 'VGA graphics' is disabled in the current prototype. Correct, there's really no overlap. The SPCR support automates setting the console property which both pre and post VESA consoles consume. -jan From dan.mick@sun.com Wed Dec 23 13:59:13 2009 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBNLxDDX028941 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBNLxCGi002606 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:59:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KV400001L2O4W00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-eng-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.32]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KV400CT9L2OHKA0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.0.87] (vpn-129-150-0-87.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.0.87]) by dm-eng-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id nBNLxBEb026415; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:59:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:59:15 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: dan.mick@sun.com Message-id: <4B3292B3.7090009@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Status: RO Content-Length: 4827 Here's a revised version, with the following diffs: --- a/spcr Tue Dec 22 19:36:31 2009 -0800 +++ b/spcr Tue Dec 22 19:50:54 2009 -0800 @@ -57,9 +57,19 @@ SUMMARY OF CHANGE -1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' -2) new Grub command 'spcr' -3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs +Imported interface: +SPCR table, defined in Microsoft document "Windows Platform Design +Notes, Serial Port Console Redirection Table (Version 1.00, January 11, +2002)". See http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/spcr.mspx +for a clickthrough-license-protected version of this document. +New exported interfaces: +- New keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE': Committed +- New Grub command 'spcr': Uncommitted, human-readable diagnostic command + +Non-interface changes worthy of note: + +Removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs + Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Serial Port Console Redirection 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Daniel Mick 1.3 Date of This Document: 23 December, 2009 4. Technical Description PROBLEM: x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to query the BIOS settings for serial console. Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). SOLUTION: Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. IMPLEMENTATION Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial port and mode (for example, "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look like: kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for diagnostic purposes. This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step on SPARC). SUMMARY OF CHANGE Imported interface: SPCR table, defined in Microsoft document "Windows Platform Design Notes, Serial Port Console Redirection Table (Version 1.00, January 11, 2002)". See http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/spcr.mspx for a clickthrough-license-protected version of this document. New exported interfaces: - New keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE': Committed - New Grub command 'spcr': Uncommitted, human-readable diagnostic command Non-interface changes worthy of note: Removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From dan.mick@Sun.COM Tue Jan 5 17:23:47 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o061Nkk3001909 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o061NjXn018777 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:23:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KVS00903X7M4H00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-eng-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.32]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KVS005R6X7MZ800@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.48.101] (angus.West.Sun.COM [10.1.48.101]) by dm-eng-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o061NkGj012754 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:23:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:23:45 -0800 From: Dan Mick Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B3292B3.7090009@sun.com> To: PSARC-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <4B43E621.6070505@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B3292B3.7090009@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070419) Status: RO Content-Length: 5348 Jim Carlson points out that I'm still backward with "importing" the SPCR spec (it should be "exporting"). Assuming I change that, any more comments I can address? Jim, are the other two interfaces that I'm "providing" also "exports" in ARCese? Dan Mick wrote: > Here's a revised version, with the following diffs: > --- a/spcr Tue Dec 22 19:36:31 2009 -0800 > +++ b/spcr Tue Dec 22 19:50:54 2009 -0800 > @@ -57,9 +57,19 @@ > > SUMMARY OF CHANGE > > -1) new keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE' > -2) new Grub command 'spcr' > -3) removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs > +Imported interface: > > +SPCR table, defined in Microsoft document "Windows Platform Design > +Notes, Serial Port Console Redirection Table (Version 1.00, January 11, > +2002)". See > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/spcr.mspx > +for a clickthrough-license-protected version of this document. > > +New exported interfaces: > > +- New keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE': Committed > +- New Grub command 'spcr': Uncommitted, human-readable diagnostic command > + > +Non-interface changes worthy of note: > + > +Removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs > + > > > > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.68 02/23/09 SMI > This information is Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Serial Port Console Redirection > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Daniel Mick > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 23 December, 2009 > 4. Technical Description > > PROBLEM: > > x86 platforms have been able for some time to redirect BIOS and early > boot output to a serial port, as has the Solaris kernel; however, > configuration of both is separate, and error-prone. This has been > unavoidable, because, until recently, there's been no interface to > query the BIOS settings for serial console. > > Further, OpenSolaris now tries to enter graphics mode immediately in > Grub, and stay there during kernel boot until Xorg takes over > (so-called "happy face" boot). This works well on workstations with > VGAs and displays, and not so well on remote servers with serial > consoles (the graphics output is at least garbage to the serial > console, and in worse cases, can wedge the console). > > SOLUTION: > > Microsoft has defined an ACPI table to transmit this information called > SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection). Many machines support this > table, and its contents are sufficient to allow Grub and the kernel to > match their configuration to the BIOS configuration. Using this > information, Grub can automatically avoid graphics mode when serial > console is configured, and we can remove the requirement for manual > configuration of serial parameters for the kernel in Grub's menu.lst. > > IMPLEMENTATION > > Grub has been modified to read and use the information in SPCR. A new > keyword $CONSOLE is added for use on the kernel$ boot line in menu.lst; > it will expand to properties which select either the appropriate serial > port and mode (for example, > "console=ttya,ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,-,ttya-ignore-cd=true") or the > normal text or graphics console ("console=text" or "console=graphics") > as the Solaris release requires. (Currently Nevada uses text, > OpenSolaris uses graphics.) A typical use in menu.lst would look > like: > > kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,$CONSOLE > > In addition, a new "spcr" command has been defined, to display the > settings in the SPCR table (if it exists). This command is useful for > diagnostic purposes. > > This requires no change in the kernel to use; however, one file is also > changed in the Solaris system image: /etc/ttydefs, which currently > configures ttymon(1) to force the console to 9600 baud. It turns out > that if the baud rate setting is removed, ttymon simply uses the > preexisting baud rate without change. This is exactly what we'd like > for the x86 case, as it means that baud rate choice is done in exactly > one place: the BIOS. It also allows one fewer configuration step on > SPARC systems, where the ttya-mode variable can be set in OBP, and then > ttydefs will not need change. (Unfortunately, the SPARC serial drivers > take it upon themselves to initialize the baud rate from settings in > /kernel/drv/options.conf, ignoring ttya-mode, so on SPARC we haven't > yet made it a one-step process...but this does at least remove one step > on SPARC). > > SUMMARY OF CHANGE > > Imported interface: > > SPCR table, defined in Microsoft document "Windows Platform Design > Notes, Serial Port Console Redirection Table (Version 1.00, January 11, > 2002)". See http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/spcr.mspx > for a clickthrough-license-protected version of this document. > > New exported interfaces: > > - New keyword for use on Grub menu lines '$CONSOLE': Committed > - New Grub command 'spcr': Uncommitted, human-readable diagnostic command > > Non-interface changes worthy of note: > > Removal of baud rate from console: line in /etc/ttydefs > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > ON > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From carlsonj@workingcode.com Wed Jan 6 04:51:10 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o06CpAvB026539 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 04:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o06Cp9JE014186; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KVT00I09T192900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:51:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KVT00EZ5T18RN00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay11i.sun.com (ip121.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.121]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o06Cp86S010456; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:51:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp11es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.208.11] [160.41.208.11]) by relay11i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-10274807; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:49:08 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay11i.sun.com (relay11i.sun.com [129.179.4.121]) by mmp11es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-46859086; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:49:07 +0000 (Z) Received: from carlson.workingcode.com ([75.150.68.97] [75.150.68.97]) by relay1i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-24393031; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:49:07 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.50.23.149] (gate.abinitio.com [65.170.40.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by carlson.workingcode.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o06Cn7nC015739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:49:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:49:06 -0500 From: James Carlson Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B43E621.6070505@sun.com> To: Dan Mick Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B4486C2.3010707@workingcode.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: carlson; whitelist X-Antispam: No, score=3.2/5.0, scanned in 0.140sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4B3292B3.7090009@sun.com> <4B43E621.6070505@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090605) Status: RO Content-Length: 521 Dan Mick wrote: > Jim Carlson points out that I'm still backward with "importing" the SPCR > spec (it should be "exporting"). Assuming I change that, any more > comments I can address? > > Jim, are the other two interfaces that I'm "providing" also "exports" in > ARCese? Yep, they look fine. And as I mentioned in that message, these are really just nits, which is why I didn't bother broadcasting it to the list or asking for an update. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W From gdamore@sun.com Wed Jan 6 16:29:56 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o070TulQ011084 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o070TuvS022184 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KVU00J07PDW8Y00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KVU00JPXPDVYMD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:29:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o070TtZW004820 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KVU00100P865G00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KVU002LQPDUJ170@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:29:54 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Serial Port Console Redirection [PSARC/2009/684 FastTrack timeout 12/26/2009] In-reply-to: <4B43E621.6070505@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Dan Mick Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B452B02.4090404@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B3292B3.7090009@sun.com> <4B43E621.6070505@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091013) Status: RO Content-Length: 56 This case was approved at PSARC today. - Garrett