From jim.walker@oracle.com Wed Apr 14 08:28:58 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3EFSwbM017683 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3EFSa8E013200 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L0V00115HNRDV00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L0V00HO2HNQ6NE0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3EFSc7v009840 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:28:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3EFSUDi009406 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:28:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 174859441271258891; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:28:11 -0700 Received: from [129.147.233.127] (/129.147.233.127) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:28:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:26:29 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: "LAYTON,EVAN" , "MINER,DAVID" Reply-to: jim.walker@oracle.com Message-id: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4BC5DF25.000D:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 212 Here is the draft opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt I request an email vote. Let me know if you have any comments. Cheers, Jim From joel.buckley@oracle.com Wed Apr 14 09:34:31 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3EGYVsk024282 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3EGYU6E008194 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L0V00K0DKPI4M00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L0V0093JKPH3MC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3EGYT8A017966 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3EFWah1020759 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:34:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt016.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 175091481271262790; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:33:10 -0700 Received: from [129.147.9.127] (/129.147.9.127) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:33:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:33:08 -0600 From: Joel Buckley Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] In-reply-to: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> To: jim.walker@oracle.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON,EVAN" , "MINER,DAVID" Message-id: <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gvLloGap9UbQoZPWUhu/pg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4BC5EE94.0192:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 24956 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_gvLloGap9UbQoZPWUhu/pg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Jim, I believe this is incorrectly included in Live Update interfaces: luxadm Obsolete [1] Cheers, Joel. On 04/14/10 09:26, Jim Walker wrote: > Here is the draft opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. > > http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt > > I request an email vote. > > Let me know if you have any comments. > > Cheers, > Jim -- Joel Buckley | +1.303.272.5556 Oracle Open Storage Systems 500 Eldorado Blvd Broomfield, CO 80021-3400 --Boundary_(ID_gvLloGap9UbQoZPWUhu/pg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Jim,

I believe this is incorrectly included in Live Update interfaces:

luxadm		      Obsolete             [1]

Cheers,
Joel.

On 04/14/10 09:26, Jim Walker wrote:
Here is the draft opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management.

http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt

I request an email vote.

Let me know if you have any comments.

Cheers,
Jim


--

Joel Buckley | +1.303.272.5556
Oracle Open Storage Systems
500 Eldorado Blvd

Broomfield, CO 80021-3400

--Boundary_(ID_gvLloGap9UbQoZPWUhu/pg)-- From jim.walker@oracle.com Wed Apr 14 09:56:00 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3EGu0Tm028018 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3EGtvhs011256 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L0V00A13LPB4S00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L0V0017BLPAIY80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3EGtv3D025844 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3EG0NFI019807 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 175165361271264156; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:55:56 -0700 Received: from [129.147.233.127] (/129.147.233.127) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:55:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:54:14 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] In-reply-to: <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> To: Joel Buckley Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON,EVAN" , "MINER,DAVID" Reply-to: jim.walker@oracle.com Message-id: <4BC5F336.8090404@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4BC5F39D.017A:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 198 On 04/14/10 10:33 AM, Joel Buckley wrote: > Jim, > > I believe this is incorrectly included in Live Update interfaces: > > luxadm Obsolete [1] Good catch. Removed. Cheers, Jim From garrett.damore@oracle.com Wed Apr 14 09:58:43 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3EGwhv3028660 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3EGwgY8008278 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L0V00A01LTUFB00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L0V001E6LTTIO80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3EGweJu011143 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:58:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3EGwaNo013697 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:58:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt014.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 160542191271264222; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:57:02 -0700 Received: from [10.7.251.172] (/10.7.251.172) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:57:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:57:00 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] In-reply-to: <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> To: Joel Buckley Cc: jim.walker@oracle.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON,EVAN" , "MINER,DAVID" Message-id: <4BC5F3DC.3080806@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mbgfes9cQ2D8iEHBjR1mRg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4BC5F440.0103:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 26843 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_mbgfes9cQ2D8iEHBjR1mRg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 04/14/10 09:33 AM, Joel Buckley wrote: > Jim, > > I believe this is incorrectly included in Live Update interfaces: > > luxadm Obsolete [1] > > Cheers, > Joel. Nice catch Joel -- that *clearly* doesn't belong here. Modulo fixing that problem, I'm going to say for the record that I've never been happy about not having a good upgrade path between Solaris 10 and Solaris Next. Of course, we've already left that concern behind a long time ago. I'd really like section 4.2 or section 6 to indicate advice that some form of "supported" solution for migrating S10 customers to Solaris Next is needed. (I do recall someone mentioning that P2V is supported right now? If so, then perhaps the opinion here should mention that.) In any case, I'm going to go ahead and give this case my vote to approve. - Garrett > > On 04/14/10 09:26, Jim Walker wrote: >> Here is the draft opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. >> >> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt >> >> I request an email vote. >> >> Let me know if you have any comments. >> >> Cheers, >> Jim > > > -- > > Joel Buckley | +1.303.272.5556 > Oracle Open Storage Systems > 500 Eldorado Blvd > > Broomfield, CO 80021-3400 > --Boundary_(ID_mbgfes9cQ2D8iEHBjR1mRg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 04/14/10 09:33 AM, Joel Buckley wrote:
Jim,

I believe this is incorrectly included in Live Update interfaces:

luxadm		      Obsolete             [1]

Cheers,
Joel.

Nice catch Joel -- that *clearly* doesn't belong here.

Modulo fixing that problem, I'm going to say for the record that I've never been happy about not having a good upgrade path between Solaris 10 and Solaris Next.  Of course, we've already left that concern behind a long time ago.

I'd really like section 4.2 or section 6 to indicate advice that some form of "supported" solution for migrating S10 customers to Solaris Next is needed.  (I do recall someone mentioning that P2V is supported right now?  If so, then perhaps the opinion here should mention that.)

In any case, I'm going to go ahead and give this case my vote to approve.

    - Garrett


On 04/14/10 09:26, Jim Walker wrote:
Here is the draft opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management.

http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt

I request an email vote.

Let me know if you have any comments.

Cheers,
Jim


--

Joel Buckley | +1.303.272.5556
Oracle Open Storage Systems
500 Eldorado Blvd

Broomfield, CO 80021-3400


--Boundary_(ID_mbgfes9cQ2D8iEHBjR1mRg)-- From dave.miner@oracle.com Wed Apr 14 12:46:38 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3EJkcYl021060 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3EJkb8h014674 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L0V0040HTLPAG00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L0V00JOFTLOPB40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3EJkahS002819 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3EGqBUv025746 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 161002341271274286; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:44:46 -0700 Received: from [129.147.242.104] (/129.147.242.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:44:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:44:41 -0400 From: Dave Miner Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] In-reply-to: <4BC5F3DC.3080806@oracle.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Joel Buckley , jim.walker@oracle.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON,EVAN" Message-id: <4BC61B29.7040608@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4BC61B9B.0156:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> <4BC5F3DC.3080806@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100315 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 579 On 04/14/10 12:57 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: ... > > I'd really like section 4.2 or section 6 to indicate advice that some > form of "supported" solution for migrating S10 customers to Solaris Next > is needed. (I do recall someone mentioning that P2V is supported right > now? If so, then perhaps the opinion here should mention that.) > P2V into an S10C (PSARC/2009/253) zone will be the primary recommended and supported path. Evan is also leading the effort to provide additional migration aids, so if you have ideas I'd suggest an off-line conversation with him. Dave From jim.walker@oracle.com Wed Apr 21 10:27:34 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3LHRXDq015620 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3LHRTB2006919 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1800F01LTW5A00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1800A94LTWL570@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3LHRV16012686 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:27:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0L1800D00LKD6Q00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:27:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jwmac.local ([unknown] [129.150.220.75]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L18002SWLTMZW90@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:27:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:27:22 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/23/2010] Sender: James.Walker@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: "LAYTON,EVAN" , "MINER,DAVID" Reply-to: jim.walker@oracle.com Message-id: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) Status: RO Content-Length: 220 (reminder - I extended this until Friday) Here is the opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt I request a commitment email vote. Cheers, Jim From sebastien.roy@oracle.com Wed Apr 21 10:34:21 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3LHYLhp015905 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3LHQN5q001460 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1800603M422L00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.43.22]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L18004LAM417G10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3LHXboh020491 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:33:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3LGBia9017343 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:33:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 196367561271871215; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:33:35 -0700 Received: from [129.148.174.103] (/129.148.174.103) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:33:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:33:33 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/23/2010] In-reply-to: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> To: jim.walker@oracle.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON, EVAN" , "MINER, DAVID" Message-id: <4BCF36ED.5010509@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4BCF36F0.0191:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100329 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 355 On 04/21/10 01:27 PM, Jim Walker wrote: > (reminder - I extended this until Friday) > > Here is the opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. > > http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt > > I request a commitment email vote. Suggestion: Perhaps a subject line starting with "NEED VOTE" would draw more attention. -Seb From jim.walker@oracle.com Tue Apr 27 23:36:37 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3S6abYM019058 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3S6abWp025344 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1K00H01QD1D100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1K00CCCQD0LI40@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3S6aa2a016401 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:36:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0L1K00F00NC8FK00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:36:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c-67-177-236-198.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([unknown] [129.150.176.192]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L1K008HWQCZZR50@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:36:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:36:35 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059 opinion for review by 04/21/2010] In-reply-to: <4BC61B29.7040608@oracle.com> Sender: James.Walker@sun.com To: Dave Miner Cc: "Garrett D'Amore" , PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON,EVAN" Reply-to: jim.walker@oracle.com Message-id: <4BD7D773.6050302@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4BC5DEA5.7040404@oracle.com> <4BC5EE44.7010402@oracle.com> <4BC5F3DC.3080806@oracle.com> <4BC61B29.7040608@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) Status: RO Content-Length: 709 I summarized this in section 4.2, and added Garrett to the Committee list. Cheers, Jim Dave Miner wrote: > On 04/14/10 12:57 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > ... >> >> I'd really like section 4.2 or section 6 to indicate advice that some >> form of "supported" solution for migrating S10 customers to Solaris Next >> is needed. (I do recall someone mentioning that P2V is supported right >> now? If so, then perhaps the opinion here should mention that.) >> > > P2V into an S10C (PSARC/2009/253) zone will be the primary recommended > and supported path. Evan is also leading the effort to provide > additional migration aids, so if you have ideas I'd suggest an > off-line conversation with him. > > Dave From jim.walker@oracle.com Tue Apr 27 23:44:12 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3S6iCNe019148 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3S6iBbC028236 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1K00K0BQPNZK00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1K00DC8QPNBJ70@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3S6iBsK020310 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:44:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0L1K00F00NC8FK00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c-67-177-236-198.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([unknown] [129.150.176.192]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L1K008JHQPNZR50@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:44:11 -0600 From: Jim Walker Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059] NEED VOTE In-reply-to: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> Sender: James.Walker@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: "LAYTON, EVAN" Reply-to: jim.walker@oracle.com Message-id: <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) Status: RO Content-Length: 369 Let me know if any other members have reviewed this opinion and would like to be added to the Committee. So far, we have: Mark Carlson John Fischer Garrett D'Amore Thanks, Jim > Here is the opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. > > http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt > > I request a commitment email vote. > > Cheers, > Jim From glenn.skinner@covad.net Wed Apr 28 09:45:01 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3SGj12l018179 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3SGj1uv021913 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1L00B0XIJ1BJ00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1L00MKLIIZDZ80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:44:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay13i.sun.com (ip123.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.123]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3SGeuCF025796 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:44:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp11es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.208.11] [160.41.208.11]) by relay13i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-462699 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:44:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay14i.sun.com (relay14i.sun.com [129.179.4.124]) by mmp11es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-167772102 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:44:58 +0000 (Z) Received: from mail155c8.megamailservers.com ([209.235.129.65] [209.235.129.65]) by relay1i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-20599044 for PSARC-ext@sun.com; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:44:58 +0000 (Z) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (h-64-105-36-23.snvacaid.static.covad.net [64.105.36.23]) by mail155c8.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o3SGirNV020876; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:44:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:44:53 -0700 From: Glenn Skinner Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059] NEED VOTE In-reply-to: <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> To: jim.walker@oracle.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON, EVAN" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-POP-User: jeannette.cosby@covad.net X-Antispam: No, score=0.0/5.0, scanned in 0.246sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 249 On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Jim Walker wrote: > Let me know if any other members have reviewed this opinion > and would like to be added to the Committee. So far, we have: > > Mark Carlson > John Fischer > Garrett D'Amore Approve. -- Glenn From gary.winiger@oracle.com Wed Apr 28 09:48:52 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3SGmpqY018358 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3SGmoqm004434 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:48:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1L0070HIPFI400@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1L00K4TIPE98C0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3SGmoV8022788 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:48:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3SFGWRK030790 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:48:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 217796651272473297; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:17 -0700 Received: from [129.146.108.166] (/129.146.108.166) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:50:55 -0700 From: Gary Winiger Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059] NEED VOTE In-reply-to: <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> To: jim.walker@oracle.com Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON, EVAN" Message-id: <4BD8676F.1050406@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4BD866F1.00DF:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100329 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 234 On 04/27/10 23:44, Jim Walker wrote: >> Here is the opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. >> >> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt >> >> I request a commitment email vote. Approve. Gary.. From garrett.damore@oracle.com Wed Apr 28 09:57:26 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3SGvQPZ019341 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o3SGvOHg009867 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:57:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L1L00E1TJ3P7400@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L1L00ANQJ3L7870@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o3SGvLBG026269 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:57:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o3S81FJd009859 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:57:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 217827881272473786; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:56:26 -0700 Received: from [10.7.251.172] (/10.7.251.172) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:56:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:56:23 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: SNAP BE Management [PSARC/2010/059] NEED VOTE In-reply-to: <4BD8676F.1050406@oracle.com> To: Gary Winiger Cc: jim.walker@oracle.com, PSARC-ext@sun.com, "LAYTON, EVAN" Message-id: <4BD868B7.7010306@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4BD868F0.00E6:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4BCF357A.5000001@oracle.com> <4BD7D93B.1030906@oracle.com> <4BD8676F.1050406@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 357 On 04/28/10 09:50 AM, Gary Winiger wrote: > On 04/27/10 23:44, Jim Walker wrote: > >>> Here is the opinion for PSARC/2010/059 SNAP BE Management. >>> >>> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion_draft.txt >>> >>> I request a commitment email vote. > > Approve. > > Gary.. I approve. 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U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 124 This case is seeking SAC review of this opinion: http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/059/opinion.txt Cheers, Jim From sac-owner Mon Jun 7 14:03:27 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o57L3QAc025797 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o57L3QAX026713 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from noaccess@localhost) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id o57L3Pfu026712 for sac-opinion-not-2b-used-directly; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com: noaccess set sender to sac-opinion-request@sun.com using -f Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o57L3P8A026703 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:sac-opinion@sun.com>; 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I'm marking this case closed approved. Jim --Boundary_(ID_Om+ocG1MqZp1i+DaDFE7aw) Content-type: text/plain; name=opinion.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=opinion.txt Sun Microsystems Systems Architecture Committee _________________________________________________________________ Subject: SNAP BE Management Submitted by: Evan Layton File: PSARC/2010/059/opinion.txt Date: March 3, 2010 Committee: Mark Carlson (opinion written by Jim Walker), John Fischer, Garrett D'Amore, Glenn Skinner, Gary Winiger, Rick Matthews Product Approval Committee: Systems PAC solaris-pac-opinion@sun.com 1. Summary Snap Boot Environment (BE) Management provides the mechanism to safely update system software by capturing system states and allowing previous system states to be re-enabled. It does this by creating a ZFS clone of the current system. The definition of a boot environment (also called a BE) is an instance of a bootable OpenSolaris environment consisting of a root file system and, optionally, other file systems mounted underneath it. The root file system and all other file systems of the BE which contain system software must be zfs datasets. This project will allow a user to very quickly create a duplicate image of their running system or other inactive BE, which can then be updated and booted. This project will also EOL Live Upgrade in Solaris Next as part of this case. Specifically, PSARC/1997/318 and its exported interfaces will be obsoleted for Solaris Next. 2. Decision & Precedence Information The project is approved as specified in reference [1]. The project may be delivered in a Minor release of Solaris. This case sets a precedent as the first PSARC case that includes functionality that only works on a ZFS root file system (see section 4.1). 3. Interfaces 3.1 SNAP BE Management Interfaces Exported Interfaces Interface Name Classification Comments --------------------- -------------------- -------------------------- be_init Consolidation Private See [1] be_mount Consolidation Private See [1] be_unmount Consolidation Private See [1] be_create Consolidation Private See [1] be_destroy Consolidation Private See [1] be_rename Consolidation Private See [1] be_activate Consolidation Private See [1] be_create_snapshot Consolidation Private See [1] be_destroy_snapshot Consolidation Private See [1] be_rollback Consolidation Private See [1] be_list Consolidation Private See [1] be_free_list Consolidation Private See [1] beadm list Committed See [2] beadm create Committed See [2] beadm destroy Committed See [2] beadm mount Committed See [2] beadm unmount/umount Committed See [2] beadm rename Committed See [2] beadm activate Committed See [2] [1] system/library/install package [2] install/beadm package Imported Interfaces Interface Name Classification Comments --------------------- -------------------- -------------------------- libinstzones Uncommitted package/svr4 pkg libzfs Contract Private system/file-system/zfs pkg installgrub Uncommitted SUNWcs pkg 3.2 Live Upgrade Interfaces Exported Interfaces Interface Name Classification Comments --------------------- -------------------- -------------------------- lu Obsolete [1] luactivate Obsolete [1] lucancel Obsolete [1] lucompare Obsolete [1] lucreate Obsolete [1] lucurr Obsolete [1] ludelete Obsolete [1] ludesc Obsolete [2] lufslist Obsolete [1] lumake Obsolete [1] lumount Obsolete [1] lurename Obsolete [1] lustatus Obsolete [1] luumount Obsolete [1] luupgrade Obsolete [1] /etc/lutab Obsolete [1] /etc/default/lu Obsolete [3] /etc/lu/synclist Obsolete [3] [1] PSARC/1997/318 [2] PSARC/2001/551 [3] PSARC/2002/064 See Appendix C for imported and private interface detail. 4. Opinion 4.1 ZFS Root File System Required The committee discussed various precedent setting and dependency implications regarding requiring a ZFS Root file system. The committee noted that this is the first case that includes functionality that only works on a ZFS Root file system, which sets a new precedent. However, this case is not dependent on a new case which ONLY allows ZFS Root file systems. 4.2 EOL of Live Upgrade There is no upgrade path between Solaris Nevada which uses Live Upgrade and Solaris Next which uses 'pkg image-update' in conjunction with beadm. The committee noted that additional case work is needed to close the gap between the upgrade approach used by Solaris 10 and Solaris Nevada and Solaris Next. The project team agreed to file RFEs to EOL Live Upgrade in Solaris Next as part of this case. Specifically, PSARC/1997/318 and its exported interfaces will be obsoleted for Solaris Next. In addition, the project team notes that P2V into a Solaris 10 Container (PSARC/2009/253) will be the primary recommended and supported path for migrating from Solaris 10 to Solaris Next, and they plan to provide additional migration aids. 4.3 EOL of UFS as Root File System and ZFS Standards Conformance After committee discussion, it was determined that a project needs to be funded to address standards conformance issues related to using ZFS as a root file system and to EOL UFS as a root file system. 5. Minority Opinion(s) None. 6. Advisory Information The project team is advised to file appropriate RFEs to EOL Live Upgrade in Solaris Next. Specifically, PSARC/1997/318 and its exported interfaces should be Obsoleted. 7. Appendices 7.1. Appendix A: Technical Changes Required None. 7.2. Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised None. 7.3. Appendix C: Reference Material PSARC/2010/059/final.materials/* Migration cases: PSARC/2009/253 S10C Live Upgrade cases: PSARC/1997/318 Solaris/NCR Online Upgrade (VM&F/LiveUpgrade) PSARC/2001/084 Live Upgrade Enhancements PSARC/2001/551 Live Upgrade Enhancements PSARC/2002/064 Live Upgrade Boot Environment Enhancements PSARC/2010/059 Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems --Boundary_(ID_Om+ocG1MqZp1i+DaDFE7aw)--