From fuyuki@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM Wed Feb 24 00:30:21 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1O8UKtQ014748 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o1O8UHXZ015049 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@Sun.Com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYC00C2Z7MK8H00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.17.59]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYC006BV7MG9PA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@Sun.Com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.Com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1O8UGli359771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fuyuki@localhost) by jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) id o1O8UF3U359769; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:15 -0800 (PST) From: Fuyuki Hasegawa Subject: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 2734 I'm submitting this fast-track for G11N IM group. Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Fuyuki Hasegawa 1.3 Date of This Document: 24 February, 2010 4. Technical Description OVERVIEW SunPinyin 1.0 IME (Input Method Engine) has been available for iiimf and scim IM framewroks. This project is to add SunPinyin 2.0 IME (Input Method Engine) to iBus Input Method framework. SunPinyin can be configured through iBus setup utility. SunPinYin 2.0 supports the following new features: * Double Pinyin (to support five shunpin plans - MS2003, ZiGuang, ABC, Ziranma, pinyin++) * Self dictionary build up * Fuzzy Pinyin * Auto-correct Pinyin * Customizable character mapping INTERFACE STABILITIES Exported Interfaces INTERFACE NAME STABILITY NOTE -------------------------- -------------------------------------------- /usr/bin/ibus-setup Volatile iBus setup utility /usr/lib/ibus/ Project IME invocation scripts ibus-engine-sunpinyin Private ibus-setup-sunpinyin /usr/share/ibus/component/ Project IME config file sunpinyin.xml Private /usr/share/ibus-sunpinyin/ Project iBus specific IME modules Private /usr/share/sunpinyin/ Project common SunPinyin IME modules Private (can be shared by other IM) PACKAGING system/input-method/ibus/sunpinyin (IPS) SUNWibus-sunpinyin (svr4) DEPENDENCIES ibus1.2 system/input-method/ibus (SUNWibus) sqlite3 database:sqlite-3 (SUNWsqlite3) RELEASE BINDING Micro/Patch release binding REFERENCES [1] iBus project ( http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ ) PSARC 2009/499 iBus integration [2] xkbc for iBus PSARC/2009/645 Keyboard layout emulation engine for iBus [3] IIIMF project ( http://www.openi18n.org/iiimf/ ) PSARC 2005/525 IIIMF upgrade to revision 12 [4] SCIM project ( http://www.scim-im.org ) PSARC 2008/418 Integrate SCIM to Solaris [5] Pinyin Method Pinyin Method - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_method 12 Double Pinyin - http://www.4jhm.com/sgsp/2008/1108/article_9.html 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: G11N 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From gdamore@sun.com Wed Feb 24 01:17:35 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1O9HZnx015758 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o1O9HYwb004227 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:17:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYC00K0F9TAZ800@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYC00ACL9T9AYA0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o1O9HXer002631 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYC00J009JMU500@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYC00KC59T8RR90@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:32 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Fuyuki Hasegawa Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B84EEAC.4040906@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20100117 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 Status: RO Content-Length: 3231 I'm not entirely sure that PSARC is the right place to deal with this. Would LSARC be better prepared to provide a meaningful review of it? (It *looks* reasonable to me, and I'd +1, but I'd like LSARC to have a chance at it first.) - Garrett On 02/24/10 12:30 AM, Fuyuki Hasegawa wrote: > I'm submitting this fast-track for G11N IM group. > > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI > This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Fuyuki Hasegawa > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 24 February, 2010 > 4. Technical Description > > OVERVIEW > > SunPinyin 1.0 IME (Input Method Engine) has been available for > iiimf and scim IM framewroks. This project is to add SunPinyin > 2.0 IME (Input Method Engine) to iBus Input Method framework. > SunPinyin can be configured through iBus setup utility. > > SunPinYin 2.0 supports the following new features: > > * Double Pinyin (to support five shunpin plans - > MS2003, ZiGuang, ABC, Ziranma, pinyin++) > * Self dictionary build up > * Fuzzy Pinyin > * Auto-correct Pinyin > * Customizable character mapping > > INTERFACE STABILITIES > > Exported Interfaces > > INTERFACE NAME STABILITY NOTE > -------------------------- -------------------------------------------- > /usr/bin/ibus-setup Volatile iBus setup utility > > /usr/lib/ibus/ Project IME invocation scripts > ibus-engine-sunpinyin Private > ibus-setup-sunpinyin > > /usr/share/ibus/component/ Project IME config file > sunpinyin.xml Private > > /usr/share/ibus-sunpinyin/ Project iBus specific IME modules > Private > > /usr/share/sunpinyin/ Project common SunPinyin IME modules > Private (can be shared by other IM) > > PACKAGING > > system/input-method/ibus/sunpinyin (IPS) > SUNWibus-sunpinyin (svr4) > > DEPENDENCIES > > ibus1.2 system/input-method/ibus (SUNWibus) > sqlite3 database:sqlite-3 (SUNWsqlite3) > > RELEASE BINDING > > Micro/Patch release binding > > REFERENCES > > [1] iBus project ( http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ ) > PSARC 2009/499 iBus integration > > [2] xkbc for iBus > PSARC/2009/645 Keyboard layout emulation engine for iBus > > [3] IIIMF project ( http://www.openi18n.org/iiimf/ ) > PSARC 2005/525 IIIMF upgrade to revision 12 > > [4] SCIM project ( http://www.scim-im.org ) > PSARC 2008/418 Integrate SCIM to Solaris > > [5] Pinyin Method > Pinyin Method - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_method > 12 Double Pinyin - http://www.4jhm.com/sgsp/2008/1108/article_9.html > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > G11N > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > > From Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com Wed Feb 24 01:42:21 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1O9gKND015970 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o1O9gHCj039196 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:42:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYC00M0NAYIIM00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYC00A49AYHAYC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o1O9gGst021998 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:42:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYC00E009BYH200@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:42:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.158.28.135] ([unknown] [129.158.28.135]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYC00AZRAXHV430@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:41:40 +0900 From: Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems Subject: Re: [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <4B84EEAC.4040906@sun.com> Sender: Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B84F454.4030508@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> <4B84EEAC.4040906@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070227) Status: RO Content-Length: 1190 Hi Garrett, Thank you for your prompt review and +1! I think PSARC is the adequate review body since the recent similar case ([2] xkbc for iBus) and also all other Input Method related cases were reviewed under PSARC. Fuyuki On 2010?02?24? 18:17, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > I'm not entirely sure that PSARC is the right place to deal with this. > Would LSARC be better prepared to provide a meaningful review of it? > (It *looks* reasonable to me, and I'd +1, but I'd like LSARC to have a > chance at it first.) > > - Garrett >> >> REFERENCES >> >> [1] iBus project ( http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ ) >> PSARC 2009/499 iBus integration >> >> [2] xkbc for iBus >> PSARC/2009/645 Keyboard layout emulation engine for iBus >> >> [3] IIIMF project ( http://www.openi18n.org/iiimf/ ) >> PSARC 2005/525 IIIMF upgrade to revision 12 >> >> [4] SCIM project ( http://www.scim-im.org ) >> PSARC 2008/418 Integrate SCIM to Solaris >> >> [5] Pinyin Method >> Pinyin Method - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_method >> 12 Double Pinyin - >> http://www.4jhm.com/sgsp/2008/1108/article_9.html >> From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Wed Mar 3 07:47:06 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o23Fl679023325 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o23Fl2Sr042509 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:47:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYP00I0DQIHWB00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYP00IS5QIGF710@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o23Fl4Gj024560 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYP00100Q1X4P00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:47:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYP00KGAQHVB310@mail-amer.sun.com>; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:46:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:44:01 -0500 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Fuyuki Hasegawa Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B8E83C1.6050904@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 807 +1 on this case, but I have lingering concerns over the higher-level architecture of input method. There are too many frameworks (iiimf, scim, and ibus), and users shouldn't need to be made to manually switch between implementations depending on what features may or may not be available in one or the other (do they do this by trial and error?). The fact that the state of the art appears to be ibus and that it is not the default on Solaris is a detriment to projects such as this that are integrating new features for ibus. Hasegawa-san, I believe you were both the case owner and the project team for the ibus integration. What are the plans to make ibus the default in Solaris, and to EOF the other two frameworks? Has this in fact already happened, and I simply missed it? Thanks, -Seb From Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com Sun Mar 7 22:04:56 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2864umR009045 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2864u3X022783 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:04:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYY001098W76M00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYY002888W6Z4B0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2864sfe026306 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:04:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYY000008GLON00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.158.28.135] ([unknown] [129.158.28.135]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYY00K058V1PM80@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:04:16 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:04:13 +0900 From: Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B94935D.6030905@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070227) Status: RO Content-Length: 2973 This case has been approved with +1. Fuyuki Hasegawa wrote: > I'm submitting this fast-track for G11N IM group. > > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI > This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Fuyuki Hasegawa > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 24 February, 2010 > 4. Technical Description > > OVERVIEW > > SunPinyin 1.0 IME (Input Method Engine) has been available for > iiimf and scim IM framewroks. This project is to add SunPinyin > 2.0 IME (Input Method Engine) to iBus Input Method framework. > SunPinyin can be configured through iBus setup utility. > > SunPinYin 2.0 supports the following new features: > > * Double Pinyin (to support five shunpin plans - > MS2003, ZiGuang, ABC, Ziranma, pinyin++) > * Self dictionary build up > * Fuzzy Pinyin > * Auto-correct Pinyin > * Customizable character mapping > > INTERFACE STABILITIES > > Exported Interfaces > > INTERFACE NAME STABILITY NOTE > -------------------------- -------------------------------------------- > /usr/bin/ibus-setup Volatile iBus setup utility > > /usr/lib/ibus/ Project IME invocation scripts > ibus-engine-sunpinyin Private > ibus-setup-sunpinyin > > /usr/share/ibus/component/ Project IME config file > sunpinyin.xml Private > > /usr/share/ibus-sunpinyin/ Project iBus specific IME modules > Private > > /usr/share/sunpinyin/ Project common SunPinyin IME modules > Private (can be shared by other IM) > > PACKAGING > > system/input-method/ibus/sunpinyin (IPS) > SUNWibus-sunpinyin (svr4) > > DEPENDENCIES > > ibus1.2 system/input-method/ibus (SUNWibus) > sqlite3 database:sqlite-3 (SUNWsqlite3) > > RELEASE BINDING > > Micro/Patch release binding > > REFERENCES > > [1] iBus project ( http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ ) > PSARC 2009/499 iBus integration > > [2] xkbc for iBus > PSARC/2009/645 Keyboard layout emulation engine for iBus > > [3] IIIMF project ( http://www.openi18n.org/iiimf/ ) > PSARC 2005/525 IIIMF upgrade to revision 12 > > [4] SCIM project ( http://www.scim-im.org ) > PSARC 2008/418 Integrate SCIM to Solaris > > [5] Pinyin Method > Pinyin Method - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_method > 12 Double Pinyin - http://www.4jhm.com/sgsp/2008/1108/article_9.html > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > G11N > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > From Sebastien.Roy@sun.com Mon Mar 8 10:16:08 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o28IG8nq006472 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o28IG7v6017043 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYZ00C256QW5H00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:16:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYZ00BCD6QVMB00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:16:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o28IG7au001801 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:16:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYZ004006M8AX00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:16:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.174.103] ([unknown] [129.148.174.103]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYZ001T06QTP410@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:16:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:13:19 -0500 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <4B94935D.6030905@sun.com> Sender: Sebastien.Roy@sun.com To: Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B953E3F.3030808@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> <4B94935D.6030905@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 267 On 03/ 8/10 01:04 AM, Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems wrote: > This case has been approved with +1. > I did give this case a +1, but there is still an unanswered question (see my mail from the 3rd). Please answer that question before approving the case. -Seb From Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com Mon Mar 8 19:30:12 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o293UCqJ016787 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o293U8Xb020105 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:30:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KYZ00D25WEBRR00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KYZ008SKWEARGB0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o293U9O8000753 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KYZ00M00W2E5Z00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.158.28.135] ([unknown] [129.158.28.135]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYZ006AHWDZ6J30@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:29:59 +0900 From: Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <4B953E3F.3030808@sun.com> Sender: Fuyuki.Hasegawa@sun.com To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B95C0B7.8070007@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_x+sRIsmimcs5X0UVBq8gFg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> <4B94935D.6030905@sun.com> <4B953E3F.3030808@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070227) Status: RO Content-Length: 7923 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_x+sRIsmimcs5X0UVBq8gFg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sebastien Roy wrote: > On 03/ 8/10 01:04 AM, Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems wrote: >> This case has been approved with +1. >> > > I did give this case a +1, but there is still an unanswered question > (see my mail from the 3rd). Please answer that question before > approving the case. > > -Seb Oh, somehow I removed PSARC-ext@sun.com alias when I replied this... When iBus becomes more stable in future, scim may be removed. 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CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list X-BeenThere: i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Delivered-to: i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on oss-mail1.opensolaris.org X-Original-To: i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org X-Antispam: No, score=-0.2/5.0, scanned in 2.013sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4B8E83C1.6050904@sun.com> <2118778675.641267775867672.JavaMail.Twebapp@sf-app1> <3a705ba51003060550q60561c73xf8affb31f6536ffc@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: List-Id: OpenSolaris internationalization and localization discussion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070227) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Level: Hi all, system/input-method/ibus/sunpinyin (SUNWibus-sunpinyin) package has been integrated in snv_135 which is first dev build after 2010.03. Yes, the plan is to make ibus default IM framework for next release and sunpinyin is planned to be the default Simplified Chinese IM. At this point we have no concrete plan about when removing scim/iiimf from OpenSolaris. Thanks, Fuyuki > 2010/3/5 W. Wayne Liauh : >> >> >>> The fact that the state of the art appears to be ibus >>> and that it is not >>> the default on Solaris is a detriment to projects >>> such as this that are >>> integrating new features for ibus. >>> >>> Hasegawa-san, I believe you were both the case owner >>> and the project >>> team for the ibus integration. What are the plans to >>> make ibus the >>> default in Solaris, and to EOF the other two >>> frameworks? Has this in >>> fact already happened, and I simply missed it? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Seb _______________________________________________ i18n-discuss mailing list i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n-discuss --Boundary_(ID_x+sRIsmimcs5X0UVBq8gFg)-- From sebastien.roy@oracle.com Tue Mar 9 07:44:03 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o29Fi3Fo013775 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o29Fhxwh022410; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ000D0DUDCCN00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:44:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.25]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ000BTLUDBG500@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:43:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o29Fhx6t029486; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:43:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o29FKsva022298; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:43:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 68616311268149374; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:42:54 -0800 Received: from [129.148.174.103] (/129.148.174.103) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:42:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:40:08 -0500 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010] In-reply-to: <4B95C0B7.8070007@sun.com> To: Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems Cc: Sebastien Roy , PSARC-ext@sun.com, i18n-discuss@opensolaris.org Message-id: <4B966BD8.5090607@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4B966CBD.0082:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201002240830.o1O8UF3U359769@jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM> <4B94935D.6030905@sun.com> <4B953E3F.3030808@sun.com> <4B95C0B7.8070007@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1213 On 03/ 8/10 10:29 PM, Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems wrote: > Sebastien Roy wrote: >> On 03/ 8/10 01:04 AM, Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun Microsystems wrote: >>> This case has been approved with +1. >>> >> >> I did give this case a +1, but there is still an unanswered question >> (see my mail from the 3rd). Please answer that question before >> approving the case. >> >> -Seb > > Oh, somehow I removed PSARC-ext@sun.com alias when I replied this... No problem. > When iBus becomes more stable in future, scim may be removed. 2009/499 also discussed the need for feature parity between iiimf and ibus (specifically regarding keyboard layout switching for European layouts). Those details are obviously beyond the scope of this case, but my main concern was that the more enhancements are made to ibus (such as this case) and the more mature it gets, the more antiquated our current default becomes, and the less it makes sense to maintain it as the default. I don't intend to discuss those issues in detail here, but only to state my general concern. Thanks, -Seb P.S.: When you approve this case and edit the IAM file, please fix the date format in there, it's currently unparsable by the SAC tools.