From blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Thu Mar 11 08:23:28 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BGNSYB014770 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BGNQgk026036; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ400F0VLJ3VI00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ4006QLLJ2O0D0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (sac.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.132]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BGNO0M002586; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BGNNDp014738; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from blu@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id o2BGNNvv014734; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:23 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Utterback Subject: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 Status: RO Content-Length: 6114 I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of Lukas Rovensky. Binding is patch. Time out is 03/18/2010. Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Lukas Rovensky 1.3 Date of This Document: 11 March, 2010 4. Technical Description Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1 Project/Component Working Name: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris 1.2 Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Sunanda Menon (original author) Lukas Rovensky (current author) 1.3 Date of This Document: 10 March, 2010 1.4 Introduction This FastTrack will EOL the MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris and obsolete MySQL 4.0 interfaces in Solaris 10. All products and users should migrate to 5.1, as MySQL 4.0 is an end of life product. 1.5 Previous Relevant ARC cases LSARC/2004/324 - SIP Proxy Server LSARC/2009/062 - Including MySQL 5.1 with Solaris 2. Technical issues 2.1 Changes to existing code All references to MySQL 4.0 in the SIP Express Router (SER) will be updated to reference to the new location at /usr/mysql. See CR 6799158, [3], which addresses this task. 2.2 Upgrade procedure for existing users of SER After the new SER packages are installed then the database upgrade procedure on MySQL pages: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/upgrade.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/upgrade.html need to be followed on current installations, to ensure that the tables created with /etc/sfw/ser/ser_mysql.sh will be upgraded to the current MySQL version. New SER users can use the set up procedure described at [2]. Certainly, the way MySQL 5.1 is installed and run differs from Solaris 10 and MySQL 5.1 man pages should be referred. 2.3 Risks and Assumptions All MySQL 4.0 users/products will have been updated to use 5.1 by the time Solaris Next ships. It is also expected that SER will not be part of Solaris Next, since in accordance with its project pages, [4], SER developers joined SIP Router project, [5], and SER itself is no longer developed. Having a dead open source product included in Solaris Next does not make sense. Should a SIP router like product be part of Solaris Next then most likely SIP Router, [5], shall replace SER, [4]. 2.4 SMF No changes as MySQL 4.0 does not have any smf support. 3. Documentation SER documentation on [2] may be upgraded supposing SIP/ser stays in OpenSolaris / Solaris Next, see section 2.3. Note, that for Solaris 10 this document is still valid. Obsoleting MySQL 4 interfaces in Solaris 10 will be announced in release notes for Solaris 10. MySQL 4 man page in Solaris 10 needs to be updated to reflect this change -- Interface Stability will be set to "External, Obsolete". 4. Packaging and Delivery SUNWmysqlr, SUNWmysqlu and SUNWmysqlt packages will be removed. 5. Interfaces All the interfaces described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10. MySQL 4.0 binaries from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed: mysqladmin mysqlcheck mysqlshow mysqldump mysqlimport mysqlbinlog mysqlmanagerc mysqlmanager-pwgen replace comp_err perror resolveip my_print_defaults resolve_stack_dump mysql_install mysql_waitpid isamchk isamlog pack_isam myisamchk myisamlog myisampack mysql_install_db make_win_src_distribution msql2mysql mysql_config mysql_fix_privilege_tables mysql_fix_extensions mysql_setpermission mysql_secure_installation mysql_zap mysqlaccess mysqlbug mysql_convert_table_format mysql_find_rows mysqlhotcopy mysqldumpslow mysql_explain_log mysql_tableinfo mysqld_multi mysqlmanager MySQL 4.0 libraries from /usr/sfw/lib will be removed: /usr/sfw/lib/mysql - entire directory libmysqlclient.so libmysqlclient.so.12 libmysqlclient.so.12.0.0 libmysqlclient_r.so libmysqlclient_r.so.12 libmysqlclient_r.so.12.0.0 libmystrings.a libdbug.a libmysys.a libnisam.a libmerge.a libmyisam.a libmyisammrg.a libheap.a libvio.a MySQL 4.0 man pages from /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed: mysql.1 mysql_fix_privilege_tables.1 mysql_zap.1 mysqlaccess.1 mysqladmin.1 mysqld.1 mysqld_multi.1 mysqld_safe.1 mysqldump.1 mysqlshow.1 isamchk.1 isamlog.1 MySQL 4.0 include files from /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed including the entire directory. MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, including the entire directory. MySQL 4.0 I18N and config files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will be removed, including the entire directory, and the file /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info 6. References [1] [http://www.mysql.com/] [2] [http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/solaris_as_sip/solaris_as_sip.html#MySQL] [3] CR 6799158 Update SER to link the MySQL 5.1 instead of the MySQL 4.0, http://monaco.sfbay.sun.com/detail.jsf?cr=6799158 [4] http://www.iptel.org/ser [5] http://sip-router.org/ [6] CR 6631906 Removal of MySQL 4.0 http://monaco.sfbay.sun.com/detail.jsf?cr=6631906 7. Resources and Schedule 7.4. Steering Committee requested information 7.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: sfw 7.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 7.6. ARC Exposure: open 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: SFW 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com Thu Mar 11 08:48:03 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BGm3Ju015457 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BGm1bm009955 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ40032JMO2XA00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ4002FAMO0V780@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BGlw7d000467 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:47:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400M00LZUXQ00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:47:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [81.187.162.109] ([unknown] [81.187.162.109]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400GGFMNA5YG0@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:48:17 +0000 From: Andrew Gabriel Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com To: Brian Utterback Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) Status: RO Content-Length: 609 Brian Utterback wrote: > I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of Lukas Rovensky. Binding is patch. Time > out is 03/18/2010. > > This FastTrack will EOL the MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris and obsolete > MySQL 4.0 interfaces in Solaris 10. > This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings (and would normally be two separate cases). EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a patch binding. EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is not eligible for patch binding). Is this what you mean? -- Andrew From Brian.Utterback@SUN.COM Thu Mar 11 09:03:33 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BH3Xnc016356 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BH3Tk3054819 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:03:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ400I0XNDW2C00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ400I2YNDV0Z00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BH3VKu025986 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:03:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400F00L669Y00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:03:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.9.178] ([unknown] [129.148.9.178]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400GMLNDQM400@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:03:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:03:26 -0500 From: Brian Utterback Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> Sender: Brian.Utterback@SUN.COM To: Andrew Gabriel Cc: Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@SUN.COM, Lukas.Rovensky@SUN.COM Message-id: <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4v; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 825 On 03/11/10 11:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings > (and would normally be two separate cases). > > EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a > patch binding. > > EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is > not eligible for patch binding). > > Is this what you mean? > The project team thinks of this as one action, hence the single proposal. We can split this into to cases you that is desired. -- blu It's bad civic hygiene to build technologies that could someday be used to facilitate a police state. - Bruce Schneier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Utterback - Solaris RPE, Oracle Corporation. Ph:877-259-7345, Em:brian.utterback@oracle.com From gdamore@sun.com Thu Mar 11 09:33:39 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BHXc8l016929 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BHXc9q014519 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ40080ZOS18200@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:33:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ400KMPOS0D380@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:33:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BHXaBN029718 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400400OIS5K00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400J4IORZF1G0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:34 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Brian Utterback Cc: Andrew Gabriel , Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4B99296E.3070406@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 759 On 03/11/10 09:03 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: > > > On 03/11/10 11:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > >> This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings >> (and would normally be two separate cases). >> >> EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a >> patch binding. >> >> EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is >> not eligible for patch binding). >> >> Is this what you mean? >> > > The project team thinks of this as one action, hence the single > proposal. We can split this into to cases you that is desired. > Personally, I see no need for two separate cases. The intentions are clearly enough stated here, and the actions do seem to be somewhat linked. - Garrett From Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Thu Mar 11 11:17:48 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BJHlaJ019103 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BJHkn6006133 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ400J0RTLN0500@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:17:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ400EYATLKBG20@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:17:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BJHidD012018 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:17:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400B00T4CZ600@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Lukas-Rovenskys-Mac-mini.local ([unknown] [85.207.15.101]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ4008OCTL8J990@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:17:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:17:31 +0100 From: Lukas Rovensky Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> Sender: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com To: Andrew Gabriel Cc: Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4B9941CB.7090808@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 932 On 3/11/10 5:48 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > Brian Utterback wrote: >> I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of Lukas Rovensky. Binding is >> patch. Time >> out is 03/18/2010. > >> This FastTrack will EOL the MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris and obsolete >> MySQL 4.0 interfaces in Solaris 10. > > This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings > (and would normally be two separate cases). > > EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a > patch binding. > > EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is > not eligible for patch binding). > > Is this what you mean? > In general yes and if formally two cases are needed then I can prepare two cases. However, this would be more or less just "copy/paste" work, so if it is possible to go with one case (and eventually modify the wording if needed) I would certainly prefer this option. Thanks, Lukas From Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com Thu Mar 11 11:23:43 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BJNhru019144 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BJNeRV044547 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ40030HTVH9E00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ400IUUTVH15D0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BJNffM015820 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400800TL64Y00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.145.155.53] ([unknown] [129.145.155.53]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400BF3TVDA5E0@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:37 -0800 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> Sender: Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com To: Brian Utterback Cc: Andrew Gabriel , Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4B994339.2010900@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 854 Brian Utterback wrote: > On 03/11/10 11:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > >> This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings >> (and would normally be two separate cases). >> >> EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a >> patch binding. >> >> EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is >> not eligible for patch binding). >> >> Is this what you mean? >> > > The project team thinks of this as one action, hence the single > proposal. We can split this into to cases you that is desired. EOF's (removing a feature from a product, as you're doing here) are often done as one case, but with different release bindings for the two phases, as Andrew described. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@sun.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From Brian.Utterback@sun.com Thu Mar 11 11:35:56 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BJZte3019343 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BJZtXj008383 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:35:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ400401UFV1800@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ400I2QUFU17F0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BJZsY5023602 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:35:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400G00TT2JS00@mail-amer.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.148.9.178] ([unknown] [129.148.9.178]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400G6KUFBM470@mail-amer.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:35:35 -0500 From: Brian Utterback Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B994339.2010900@sun.com> Sender: Brian.Utterback@sun.com To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: Andrew Gabriel , Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4B994607.4080409@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> <4B994339.2010900@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4v; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 1245 If everyone will be happy if we just state that the removal is minor binding and the obsolescence is patch binding, then consider it done. On 03/11/10 14:23, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Brian Utterback wrote: >> On 03/11/10 11:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: >> >>> This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings >>> (and would normally be two separate cases). >>> >>> EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would be a >>> patch binding. >>> >>> EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature removal is >>> not eligible for patch binding). >>> >>> Is this what you mean? >>> >> >> The project team thinks of this as one action, hence the single >> proposal. We can split this into to cases you that is desired. > > EOF's (removing a feature from a product, as you're doing here) are often done > as one case, but with different release bindings for the two phases, as Andrew > described. > -- blu It's bad civic hygiene to build technologies that could someday be used to facilitate a police state. - Bruce Schneier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Utterback - Solaris RPE, Oracle Corporation. Ph:877-259-7345, Em:brian.utterback@oracle.com From gdamore@sun.com Thu Mar 11 11:42:56 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BJgtcE019392 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BJgtj5012331 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:42:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ40040FURJGK00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ4004FNURI6420@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BJgoE9018899 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ400600UF7MJ00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@Sun.COM (ORCPT PSARC-ext@Sun.COM); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ400F8PUQURB50@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:30 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B994607.4080409@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Brian Utterback Cc: Alan Coopersmith , Andrew Gabriel , Brian Utterback , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4B9947A6.1040109@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> <4B991ED1.6030102@sun.com> <4B99225E.9000603@sun.com> <4B994339.2010900@sun.com> <4B994607.4080409@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1242 SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 and the removal in OpenSolaris.) - Garrett On 03/11/10 11:35 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: > If everyone will be happy if we just state that the removal is minor > binding and the obsolescence is patch binding, then consider it done. > > On 03/11/10 14:23, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Brian Utterback wrote: >>> On 03/11/10 11:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: >>> >>>> This seems like two separate things, which need two different bindings >>>> (and would normally be two separate cases). >>>> >>>> EOL notification and interface reclassification in Solaris 10 would >>>> be a >>>> patch binding. >>>> >>>> EOL removal in Solaris Next would be a minor binding (feature >>>> removal is >>>> not eligible for patch binding). >>>> >>>> Is this what you mean? >>>> >>> >>> The project team thinks of this as one action, hence the single >>> proposal. We can split this into to cases you that is desired. >> >> EOF's (removing a feature from a product, as you're doing here) are >> often done >> as one case, but with different release bindings for the two phases, >> as Andrew >> described. >> > From dcragun@sonic.net Thu Mar 11 15:17:57 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2BNHvVW025443 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2BNHs4I018366; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:17:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ500I094PU7T00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ500FKW4PTWU20@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay43i.sun.com ([192.5.209.74]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2BN7ViI018833; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp42es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.221.11] [160.41.221.11]) by relay43i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-522541; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay44i.sun.com (relay44i.sun.com [192.5.209.118]) by mmp42es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-36099174; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000 (Z) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.16.245] [64.142.16.245]) by relay4i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-4480162; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (76-191-129-144.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.129.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2BNHpcv018211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:17:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:17:50 -0800 From: Don Cragun Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=0.0/5.0, scanned in 0.090sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: Status: RO Content-Length: 735 On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on > just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 > and the removal in OpenSolaris.) > > - Garrett Garrett, I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product rather than a patch binding. Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT appropriate! - Don From gdamore@sun.com Thu Mar 11 21:24:56 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2C5Ot4E003130 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2C5OtNi063584 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:24:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ500003LPJCL00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.133]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ500JL2LPIXO70@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2C5OsFY018845 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ500400LE27L00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ50094JLPHG580@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:53 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Don Cragun Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1180 On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: > On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > >> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >> >> - Garrett >> > Garrett, > I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the > removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a > patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy > if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, > but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product > rather than a patch binding. > > Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT > appropriate! > Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) - Garrett > - Don > From Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Thu Mar 11 22:09:51 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2C69p43003755 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2C69pdx027338 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ500D05NSFML00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ500JN3NSDX9B0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2C69nPn026694 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:09:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ500200NOK3J00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:09:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Lukas-Rovenskys-Mac-mini.local ([unknown] [85.207.15.101]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ500LOTNRWJI10@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:09:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:09:32 +0100 From: Lukas Rovensky Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> Sender: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Don Cragun , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 1478 On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> >>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>> >>> - Garrett >> Garrett, >> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >> rather than a patch binding. >> >> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >> appropriate! > > Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce > the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really > appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. > > So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in > S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) > > - Garrett >> - Don > Hi all, no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired but this is not goal of this case. Thanks, Luksa From gdamore@sun.com Thu Mar 11 22:45:54 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2C6js2D003912 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2C6jq9b002910 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:45:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ500N0DPGH4L00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ500J3HPGFXQD0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2C6jphm002588 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ500500P80WU00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ5000GPPGF7L20@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:50 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> Sender: Garrett.Damore@sun.com To: Lukas Rovensky Cc: Don Cragun , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 1670 On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: > On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> >>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and >>>> +1 on >>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in >>>> S10 >>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>> >>>> - Garrett >>> Garrett, >>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>> rather than a patch binding. >>> >>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>> appropriate! >> >> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >> >> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >> >> - Garrett >>> - Don >> > Hi all, > > no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and > only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is > possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired > but this is not goal of this case. Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) - Garrett > > Thanks, > Luksa From Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Thu Mar 11 23:50:07 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2C7o7kN004760 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2C7o5n6031747 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:50:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ500H0HSFHNU00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ500C1OSFGPM70@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2C7o3o9020712 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ500K00RL0WJ00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:49:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MyspulinPro.local (101-15-207-85.static.bluetone.cz [85.207.15.101]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ500GRZSEDP350@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:49:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:49:25 +0100 From: Lukas Rovensky Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> Sender: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Don Cragun , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B99F205.3050001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 1742 On 3/12/10 7:45 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: >> On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>> >>>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and >>>>> +1 on >>>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in >>>>> S10 >>>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>>> >>>>> - Garrett >>>> Garrett, >>>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>>> rather than a patch binding. >>>> >>>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>>> appropriate! >>> >>> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >>> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >>> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >>> >>> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >>> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >>> >>> - Garrett >>>> - Don >>> >> Hi all, >> >> no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and >> only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is >> possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired >> but this is not goal of this case. > > Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) > Great, thanks :-) ... Lukas From dcragun@sonic.net Fri Mar 12 10:20:07 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2CIK6sS002676 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2CIK0WL058398; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:20:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ600I19LLERG00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.25]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ6004Y6LLEO1D0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11i.sun.com (ip121.net129179-4.block1.us.syntegra.com [129.179.4.121]) by sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2CI9DYX018163; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:20:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mmp13es.mmp.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.208.13] [160.41.208.13]) by relay11i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-1328674; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:20:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay13i.sun.com (relay13i.sun.com [129.179.4.123]) by mmp13es.mmp.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-56269227; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:19:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.16.245] [64.142.16.245]) by relay1i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-28090961; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:19:57 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (76-191-129-144.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.129.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2CIJmnZ023623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:19:48 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:19:48 -0800 From: Don Cragun Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Lukas Rovensky , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <5E567347-3257-4F0F-A2B8-F86747B11B8F@sonic.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=-1.1/5.0, scanned in 2.150sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 2745 On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: >> On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>> >>>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >>>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >>>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>>> >>>>> - Garrett >>>> Garrett, >>>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>>> rather than a patch binding. >>>> >>>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>>> appropriate! >>> >>> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >>> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >>> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >>> >>> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >>> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >>> >>> - Garrett >>>> - Don >>> >> Hi all, >> >> no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired but this is not goal of this case. > > Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) > > - Garrett No. That is not what the case says. Quoting from the original materials: 1. From your intro to the case: "Binding is patch." 2. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "All the interfaces described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10." (This is fine with a patch binding.) 3. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "MySQL 4.0 binaries from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 libraries from /usr/sfw/lib will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 man pages from /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 include files from /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed including the entire directory.", "MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, including the entire directory.", and "MySQL 4.0 I18N and config files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will be removed, including the entire directory, and the file /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info". (These all need a minor release binding; not a patch binding.) - Don >> >> Thanks, >> Luksa > From gdamore@Sun.COM Fri Mar 12 10:37:07 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2CIb7Tm002781 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2CIStgL026364 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ60080DMDMIW00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from sca-es-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.132]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ60072HMDK5G10@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2CIauLW006742 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ600D00LJ1GQ00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.251.11] ([unknown] [76.93.15.33]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ600GPCMD99HA0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:45 -0800 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <5E567347-3257-4F0F-A2B8-F86747B11B8F@sonic.net> Sender: Garrett.Damore@Sun.COM To: Don Cragun Cc: Lukas Rovensky , PSARC-ext@Sun.COM, Andrew.Gabriel@Sun.COM, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B9A89BD.1050905@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> <5E567347-3257-4F0F-A2B8-F86747B11B8F@sonic.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100131 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Status: RO Content-Length: 3460 On 03/12/10 10:19 AM, Don Cragun wrote: > On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > >> On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: >> >>> On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >>>>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >>>>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Garrett >>>>>> >>>>> Garrett, >>>>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>>>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>>>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>>>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>>>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>>>> rather than a patch binding. >>>>> >>>>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>>>> appropriate! >>>>> >>>> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >>>> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >>>> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >>>> >>>> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >>>> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >>>> >>>> - Garrett >>>> >>>>> - Don >>>>> >>>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired but this is not goal of this case. >>> >> Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) >> >> - Garrett >> > No. That is not what the case says. Quoting from the original > materials: > 1. From your intro to the case: "Binding is patch." > 2. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "All the interfaces > described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10." (This is fine with > a patch binding.) > 3. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "MySQL 4.0 binaries > from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 libraries from > /usr/sfw/lib will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 man pages from > /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 include files from > /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed including the entire > directory.", "MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, > including the entire directory.", and "MySQL 4.0 I18N and config > files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will be removed, including the entire > directory, and the file /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info". (These all > need a minor release binding; not a patch binding.) > > - Don > Okay, but in the subsequent conversation, it seems pretty clear that what is intended is what I said; confirmation mail from project team (above) indicates this as well. So regardless of what the original mail said, the case at hand is announce EOF in S10, remove in Nevada. The "binding" on this is Patch for the announce, and Minor for the removal. Do we really need the project to resubmit the materials to make that any more explicit? - Garrett From dcragun@sonic.net Fri Mar 12 11:01:07 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2CJ16ZF003295 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2CJ128f026938; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:01:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ600313NHQZ900@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ6002LXNHQIFC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay42i.sun.com ([192.5.209.72]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2CIuFxQ009968; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:01:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mms48es.mms.us.syntegra.com ([160.41.221.230] [160.41.221.230]) by relay42i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-2131079; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:01:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from relay45i.sun.com (relay45i.sun.com [192.5.209.94]) by mms48es.mms.us.syntegra.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-37060057; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:01:00 +0000 (Z) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.19.5] [64.142.19.5]) by relay4i.sun.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-19718009; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:00:59 +0000 (Z) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (76-191-129-144.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.129.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2CJ0wRg017647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0800 From: Don Cragun Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <4B9A89BD.1050905@sun.com> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Lukas Rovensky , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <86B67486-7E56-4424-BA39-6E8EA36544FA@sonic.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Antispam: No, score=-2.6/5.0, scanned in 1.202sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> <5E567347-3257-4F0F-A2B8-F86747B11B8F@sonic.net> <4B9A89BD.1050905@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 4020 On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On 03/12/10 10:19 AM, Don Cragun wrote: >> On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> >> >>> On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >>>>>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >>>>>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Garrett >>>>>>> >>>>>> Garrett, >>>>>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>>>>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>>>>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>>>>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>>>>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>>>>> rather than a patch binding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>>>>> appropriate! >>>>>> >>>>> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >>>>> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >>>>> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >>>>> >>>>> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >>>>> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >>>>> >>>>> - Garrett >>>>> >>>>>> - Don >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired but this is not goal of this case. >>>> >>> Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) >>> >>> - Garrett >>> >> No. That is not what the case says. Quoting from the original >> materials: >> 1. From your intro to the case: "Binding is patch." >> 2. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "All the interfaces >> described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10." (This is fine with >> a patch binding.) >> 3. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "MySQL 4.0 binaries >> from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 libraries from >> /usr/sfw/lib will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 man pages from >> /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 include files from >> /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed including the entire >> directory.", "MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, >> including the entire directory.", and "MySQL 4.0 I18N and config >> files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will be removed, including the entire >> directory, and the file /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info". (These all >> need a minor release binding; not a patch binding.) >> >> - Don >> > > Okay, but in the subsequent conversation, it seems pretty clear that what is intended is what I said; confirmation mail from project team (above) indicates this as well. > > So regardless of what the original mail said, the case at hand is announce EOF in S10, remove in Nevada. Hi Garrett, The above statement is all I need. This is the first time you (the case owner) or the project team has explicitly stated the change to the release binding presented in the original case materials. (Someone on the project team earlier said they "would accept" this change, but never said that the change to the case materials was requested by the project team.) I'm a standards guy; the paperwork is important to me. ;-} - Don > > The "binding" on this is Patch for the announce, and Minor for the removal. Do we really need the project to resubmit the materials to make that any more explicit? > > - Garrett From Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Fri Mar 12 11:23:54 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2CJNso8004010 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2CJNrfS022849 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZ600D05OJT8G00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:23:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZ60075AOJS5G40@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:23:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2CJNqri002719 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:23:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0KZ600300OCWKS00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:23:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Lukas-Rovenskys-Mac-mini.local ([unknown] [85.207.15.101]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ6005HYOJCT900@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:23:37 +0100 From: Lukas Rovensky Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <86B67486-7E56-4424-BA39-6E8EA36544FA@sonic.net> Sender: Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com To: Don Cragun Cc: "Garrett D'Amore" , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Andrew.Gabriel@sun.com, blu@sac.sfbay.sun.com Message-id: <4B9A94B9.5070203@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4B99D025.20701@sun.com> <4B99DA9C.3010001@sun.com> <4B99E31E.4030403@sun.com> <5E567347-3257-4F0F-A2B8-F86747B11B8F@sonic.net> <4B9A89BD.1050905@sun.com> <86B67486-7E56-4424-BA39-6E8EA36544FA@sonic.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 4646 On 3/12/10 8:00 PM, Don Cragun wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> On 03/12/10 10:19 AM, Don Cragun wrote: >>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 03/11/10 10:09 PM, Lukas Rovensky wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/12/10 6:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 03/11/10 03:17 PM, Don Cragun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:42:30 -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SInce nobody else has said so explicitly yet, +1 on the case, and +1 on >>>>>>>> just needing the single case. (I.e. I'm +1'ing both the announce in S10 >>>>>>>> and the removal in OpenSolaris.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Garrett >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Garrett, >>>>>>> I think you're missing the point. The case as written announces the >>>>>>> removal of MySQL 4.0 from S10 and removes MySQL 4.0 from S10 as a >>>>>>> patch. I believe everyone that has commented so far would be happy >>>>>>> if the case announced the future removal with a patch or micro binding, >>>>>>> but had a minor release binding for the actual removal of the product >>>>>>> rather than a patch binding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Removing an old, supported interface as part in a patch is NOT >>>>>>> appropriate! >>>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I misread that... I thought the case was only proposing to announce >>>>>> the removal in S10. Actually *removing* it in S10 is not really >>>>>> appropriate, removing it in the next release is fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I'm going to have to retract the +1 that relates to the removal in >>>>>> S10. A removal in SNV is OK. (Assuming it already hasn't happened.) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Garrett >>>>>> >>>>>>> - Don >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> no, please -- the case really wants to *remove* MySQL 4 from *SNV* and only *obsolete* MySQL 4 in *S10*. That's it. If later on it is possible to remove MySQL from S10 then this will be certainly desired but this is not goal of this case. >>>>> >>>> Okay, so that's what I *thought* I was +1'ing. So you have my +1. :-) >>>> >>>> - Garrett >>>> >>> No. That is not what the case says. Quoting from the original >>> materials: >>> 1. From your intro to the case: "Binding is patch." >>> 2. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "All the interfaces >>> described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10." (This is fine with >>> a patch binding.) >>> 3. From the interface table in the case (section 5): "MySQL 4.0 binaries >>> from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 libraries from >>> /usr/sfw/lib will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 man pages from >>> /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed:", "MySQL 4.0 include files from >>> /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed including the entire >>> directory.", "MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, >>> including the entire directory.", and "MySQL 4.0 I18N and config >>> files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will be removed, including the entire >>> directory, and the file /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info". (These all >>> need a minor release binding; not a patch binding.) >>> >>> - Don >>> >> Aha -- I wondered what made you to think that the case says remove from S10. As the section 1.4 says: " This FastTrack will EOL the MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris and obsolete MySQL 4.0 interfaces in Solaris 10." I thought that it is clear that all the "removing" is really just about removing from Nevada. So, perhaps to make things clearer I should have used wording in section 5 like the following: "All the interfaces described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10. MySQL 4.0 binaries from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed *from OpenSolaris / SNV*:" >> Okay, but in the subsequent conversation, it seems pretty clear that what is intended is what I said; confirmation mail from project team (above) indicates this as well. >> >> So regardless of what the original mail said, the case at hand is announce EOF in S10, remove in Nevada. > > Hi Garrett, > The above statement is all I need. This is the first time you (the Thanks. Lukas > case owner) or the project team has explicitly stated the change to > the release binding presented in the original case materials. > (Someone on the project team earlier said they "would accept" this > change, but never said that the change to the case materials was > requested by the project team.) > > I'm a standards guy; the paperwork is important to me. ;-} > > - Don > >> >> The "binding" on this is Patch for the announce, and Minor for the removal. Do we really need the project to resubmit the materials to make that any more explicit? >> >> - Garrett From brian.utterback@oracle.com Fri Mar 19 09:21:25 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2JGLOWB000511 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o2JGLMvv015719; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:21:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0KZJ00K0DERNVN00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KZJ00F8VERME660@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o2JGLLhB026138; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2JGLIn8019160; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:21:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt016.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 100786081269015601; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:20:01 -0700 Received: from [129.148.9.178] (/129.148.9.178) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:20:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:19:58 -0400 From: Brian utterback Subject: Re: Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris [PSARC/2010/088 FastTrack timeout 03/18/2010] In-reply-to: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: Brian Utterback Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Lukas.Rovensky@sun.com Message-id: <4BA3A42E.3060401@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4BA3A481.0060:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <201003111623.o2BGNNvv014734@sac.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4v; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 6797 The timer has passed, there was at least one +1, there are no open issues and nobody derailed, so I am marking this closed approved. On 03/11/10 11:23, Brian Utterback wrote: > I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of Lukas Rovensky. Binding is patch. Time > out is 03/18/2010. > > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI > This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: > Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris > 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Lukas Rovensky > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 11 March, 2010 > 4. Technical Description > Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.64 07/13/07 SMI > This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems > 1. Introduction > 1.1 Project/Component Working Name: > Removing MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris > > 1.2 Name of Document Author/Supplier: > Author: Sunanda Menon (original author) > Lukas Rovensky (current author) > > 1.3 Date of This Document: > 10 March, 2010 > > 1.4 Introduction > > This FastTrack will EOL the MySQL 4.0 from OpenSolaris and obsolete > MySQL 4.0 interfaces in Solaris 10. > > All products and users should migrate to 5.1, as MySQL 4.0 is an end > of life product. > > 1.5 Previous Relevant ARC cases > > LSARC/2004/324 - SIP Proxy Server > LSARC/2009/062 - Including MySQL 5.1 with Solaris > > 2. Technical issues > > 2.1 Changes to existing code > > All references to MySQL 4.0 in the SIP Express Router (SER) will be > updated to reference to the new location at /usr/mysql. See > CR 6799158, [3], which addresses this task. > > 2.2 Upgrade procedure for existing users of SER > > After the new SER packages are installed then the database > upgrade procedure on MySQL pages: > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/upgrade.html > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/upgrade.html > need to be followed on current installations, to ensure that the tables > created with /etc/sfw/ser/ser_mysql.sh will be upgraded to the current > MySQL version. > > New SER users can use the set up procedure described at [2]. > Certainly, the way MySQL 5.1 is installed and run differs from > Solaris 10 and MySQL 5.1 man pages should be referred. > > 2.3 Risks and Assumptions > > All MySQL 4.0 users/products will have been updated to use 5.1 by > the time Solaris Next ships. It is also expected that SER will not > be part of Solaris Next, since in accordance with its project > pages, [4], SER developers joined SIP Router project, [5], and > SER itself is no longer developed. Having a dead open source > product included in Solaris Next does not make sense. Should > a SIP router like product be part of Solaris Next then most likely > SIP Router, [5], shall replace SER, [4]. > > 2.4 SMF > > No changes as MySQL 4.0 does not have any smf support. > > 3. Documentation > > SER documentation on [2] may be upgraded supposing SIP/ser > stays in OpenSolaris / Solaris Next, see section 2.3. Note, > that for Solaris 10 this document is still valid. > > Obsoleting MySQL 4 interfaces in Solaris 10 will be announced > in release notes for Solaris 10. MySQL 4 man page in Solaris 10 > needs to be updated to reflect this change -- Interface Stability > will be set to "External, Obsolete". > > 4. Packaging and Delivery > > SUNWmysqlr, SUNWmysqlu and SUNWmysqlt packages will be removed. > > 5. Interfaces > > All the interfaces described below will be obsoleted in Solaris 10. > > MySQL 4.0 binaries from /usr/sfw/bin will be removed: > mysqladmin > mysqlcheck > mysqlshow > mysqldump > mysqlimport > mysqlbinlog > mysqlmanagerc > mysqlmanager-pwgen > replace > comp_err > perror > resolveip > my_print_defaults > resolve_stack_dump > mysql_install > mysql_waitpid > isamchk > isamlog > pack_isam > myisamchk > myisamlog > myisampack > mysql_install_db > make_win_src_distribution > msql2mysql > mysql_config > mysql_fix_privilege_tables > mysql_fix_extensions > mysql_setpermission > mysql_secure_installation > mysql_zap > mysqlaccess > mysqlbug > mysql_convert_table_format > mysql_find_rows > mysqlhotcopy > mysqldumpslow > mysql_explain_log > mysql_tableinfo > mysqld_multi > mysqlmanager > > MySQL 4.0 libraries from /usr/sfw/lib will be removed: > /usr/sfw/lib/mysql - entire directory > libmysqlclient.so > libmysqlclient.so.12 > libmysqlclient.so.12.0.0 > libmysqlclient_r.so > libmysqlclient_r.so.12 > libmysqlclient_r.so.12.0.0 > libmystrings.a > libdbug.a > libmysys.a > libnisam.a > libmerge.a > libmyisam.a > libmyisammrg.a > libheap.a > libvio.a > > MySQL 4.0 man pages from /usr/sfw/man/man1 will be removed: > mysql.1 > mysql_fix_privilege_tables.1 > mysql_zap.1 > mysqlaccess.1 > mysqladmin.1 > mysqld.1 > mysqld_multi.1 > mysqld_safe.1 > mysqldump.1 > mysqlshow.1 > isamchk.1 > isamlog.1 > > MySQL 4.0 include files from /usr/sfw/mysql/include will be removed > including the entire directory. > > MySQL 4.0 tests in /usr/sfw/mysql will be removed, including the > entire directory. > > MySQL 4.0 I18N and config files at /usr/sfw/share/mysql/ will > be removed, including the entire directory, and the file > /usr/sfw/share/info/mysql.info > > 6. References > > [1] [http://www.mysql.com/] > [2] [http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/solaris_as_sip/solaris_as_sip.html#MySQL] > [3] CR 6799158 Update SER to link the MySQL 5.1 instead of the MySQL 4.0, > http://monaco.sfbay.sun.com/detail.jsf?cr=6799158 > [4] http://www.iptel.org/ser > [5] http://sip-router.org/ > [6] CR 6631906 Removal of MySQL 4.0 > http://monaco.sfbay.sun.com/detail.jsf?cr=6631906 > > 7. Resources and Schedule > 7.4. Steering Committee requested information > 7.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > sfw > 7.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 7.6. ARC Exposure: open > > > > 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > SFW > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open > >