From john.fischer@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 11:29:24 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59ITO88027482 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59ITNGd005413 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:29:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00207FCZXZ00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R004XCFCZAH50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o59ITMvt011618 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:29:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o58LuarA025771 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 311082811276108160; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:29:20 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:29:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:29:18 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer To: PSARC-ext Cc: Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4C0FDD81.00B6:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100510 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 1049 PSARC, The OpenSolaris Text Installer case (2010/165) is scheduled for the next Open meeting, Wednesday June 16th, 2010. The Text Installer is a mouseless, screen-oriented text installer designed for use on SPARC and x86 systems that may not have graphics support. The case directory contains the following materials: PSARC Questionnaire - PSARC-questionnaire.txt Design Document ODT - designdocv2.0.8.odt Design Document PDF - designdocv2.0.8.pdf User Interface Design Document no/graphics - spec10-21.html User Interface Design Document w/graphics - UI/index.html It is related to the following other Caiman Install cases: PSARC/2007/039 - Caiman: New Solaris Installation Experience PSARC/2007/284 - Dwarf Caiman, New Solaris Install GUI PSARC/2010/069 - Solaris GUI Install Users Screen Modification PSARC/2009/471 - OpenSolaris Distribution Constructor Though it stands on its own. Please be sure to use the issues file as I will be using it during the discussion next week. Thanks, John From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 13:38:48 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59Kcmx5029966 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59Kclip025784 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00H0FLCOJ800@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:38:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R0026VLCNB780@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:38:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.6.102.27] (sunray-osol-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.102.27]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59KckVP019364; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:38:46 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> To: John Fischer Cc: PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 306 It appears the Network Configuration is IPv4 only. Shouldn't we be prepared for IPv6 at this point? Is the user account created during the install granted any special privileges or roles? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From neal.pollack@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 13:48:13 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59KmCTa000035 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59Km8oL007389 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00617LSC3100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.25]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00MV9LSBOM70@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o59KmBuH023792 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:48:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o59ID8wr021363 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:48:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt012.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 334229051276116371; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:46:11 -0700 Received: from [141.144.80.177] (/141.144.80.177) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:46:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:45:11 -0700 From: Neal Pollack Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C0FFD57.2070800@oracle.com> Organization: Oracle Corporation MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VjFczFU9lZYNepC9P/G/8A)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4C0FFE09.0131:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) Status: RO Content-Length: 5799 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_VjFczFU9lZYNepC9P/G/8A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Off Topic, but your email raised the thought/question; Build 140 seems to have only a "Text Installer ISO image" available. Yet, I have not seen anyone point to documentation that tells the users what to expect with this, and what packages they would need to add after install if they wanted to end up with a Gnome desktop again, etc. What alias or person could point me at a page or wiki, release notes, or docs of any kind, so that we can learn what is different and what to expect from the current "x86/x64 Text Installer CD image" ? Thanks On 6/9/2010 1:38 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > It appears the Network Configuration is IPv4 only. Shouldn't we > be prepared for IPv6 at this point? > > Is the user account created during the install granted any special > privileges or roles? > > -- Oracle Neal Pollack | Senior Manager Phone: +1 3103411123 | Mobile: +1 3107047416 Oracle Solaris Platform Software Engineering 222 N. Sepulveda Blvd, Floor 10 | El Segundo, CA 90245 Green Oracle Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment --Boundary_(ID_VjFczFU9lZYNepC9P/G/8A) Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SeGkVosQkAVJBTg1C+diGQ)" --Boundary_(ID_SeGkVosQkAVJBTg1C+diGQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Off Topic, but your email raised the thought/question;
Build 140 seems to have only a "Text Installer ISO image" available.
Yet, I have not seen anyone point to documentation that tells the users
what to expect with this, and what packages they would need to add
after install if they wanted to end up with a Gnome desktop again, etc.

What alias or person could point me at a page or wiki, release notes, or docs of
any kind, so that we can learn what is different and what to expect from
the current "x86/x64 Text Installer CD image" ?

Thanks


On 6/9/2010 1:38 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: 
It appears the Network Configuration is IPv4 only.  Shouldn't we
be prepared for IPv6 at this point?

Is the user account created during the install granted any special
privileges or roles?

--
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Oracle Solaris Platform Software Engineering
222 N. Sepulveda Blvd, Floor 10 | El Segundo, CA 90245
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Shouldn't we > be prepared for IPv6 at this point? The common case for IPv6 will likely be stateless address autoconfiguration, which doesn't require specifying a static IPv6 address. As a result, I would say no question need be asked about IPv6 addresses during an interactive install. The old interactive installer asked a "do you want IPv6 enabled?" question, but at this point, IPv6 should always be "enabled", and the system should automatically get a global address if there is an IPv6 router advertising an IPv6 prefix on the network. This is already true with NWAM today, so perhaps we need to discuss what the installer needs to do to make that happen if it disables network/physical:nwam and enables network/physical:default... Alan, can you add this question to the issues file so that we can remember to cover it in more detail during the review please? Thanks, -Seb From sebastien.roy@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 14:07:20 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59L7Jee000696 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59L7JVX015798 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:07:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00L07MO71P00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00EEWMO6TD40@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o59L7IpT028380 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o59L7FBN002549 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 334276041276117542; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:05:42 -0700 Received: from [129.148.174.103] (/129.148.174.103) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:05:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:05:39 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FFD57.2070800@oracle.com> To: Neal Pollack Cc: Alan Coopersmith , John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C100223.80308@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4C100285.01ED:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C0FFD57.2070800@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100524 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 374 Neal, On 06/ 9/10 04:45 PM, Neal Pollack wrote: > Off Topic Yes indeed. Please ask such questions directly to the appropriate project team members or to a more appropriate mailing list. This external mailing list is for open architecture reviews of specific PSARC cases, and mail sent here is expected to be part of the record of a case's architecture review. -Seb From susan.sohn@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 14:33:06 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59LX6N5000832 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59LX5ut028108 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00815NV5GU00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00M2FNV3OU90@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o59LX29o008887 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o59DWsNe007775 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 311607671276119114; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:31:54 -0700 Received: from [129.146.224.145] (/129.146.224.145) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:31:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:31:42 -0700 From: Sue Sohn Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4C10088E.00CB:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 250 On 06/09/10 13:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Is the user account created during the install granted any special > privileges or roles? There are no special privileges, it is similar to the user account created by the livecd's gui installer. Sue From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 15:04:50 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59M4oZn001444 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59M4nmS009349 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:04:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00219PC2DM00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R002XAPC1B8B0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:04:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.6.102.27] (sunray-osol-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.102.27]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59M4mGM011462; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:04:48 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> To: Sue Sohn Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 575 Sue Sohn wrote: > On 06/09/10 13:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> Is the user account created during the install granted any special >> privileges or roles? > > There are no special privileges, it is similar to the user account > created by the livecd's gui installer. The LiveCD GUI installer currently does assign extra priviledges to the account created though - it puts an entry in /etc/user_attr allowing that user to run commands as root via pfexec. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 15:40:05 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59Me5Pn001852 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59Me3OI030688 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00C1PQYS9M00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00MGSQYROJD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.6.102.27] (sunray-osol-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.102.27]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59Me3nY021613; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:03 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FFFB4.2030907@oracle.com> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell Message-id: <4C101843.6050100@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C0FFFB4.2030907@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 2097 Sebastien Roy wrote: > On 06/ 9/10 04:38 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> It appears the Network Configuration is IPv4 only. Shouldn't we >> be prepared for IPv6 at this point? > > The common case for IPv6 will likely be stateless address > autoconfiguration, which doesn't require specifying a static IPv6 > address. As a result, I would say no question need be asked about IPv6 > addresses during an interactive install. The old interactive installer > asked a "do you want IPv6 enabled?" question, but at this point, IPv6 > should always be "enabled", and the system should automatically get a > global address if there is an IPv6 router advertising an IPv6 prefix on > the network. This is already true with NWAM today, so perhaps we need > to discuss what the installer needs to do to make that happen if it > disables network/physical:nwam and enables network/physical:default... > > Alan, can you add this question to the issues file so that we can > remember to cover it in more detail during the review please? I've put my two questions (the first as modified by Seb's comments) in the issues file as: alanc-1 What happens for IPv6 if static network configuration is chosen? alanc-2 Are any privileges, roles or other user_attr settings made for the user account created during installation? Aside from the case materials, I happen to know from out-of-band discussions with Install QA that there is currently an open bug where the text installer cannot be used on SPARC systems displaying on a local console device driven by a frame buffer without coherent console support. It's not clear where the bug lies (presumably something in the ncurses implementation is relying on something that is only supported by the in-kernel coherent console terminal emulator and not the OBP terminal emulator) - but is coherent console support going to be a dependency of this project or is that bug going to be root caused and fixed in either the installer or ncurses? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From susan.sohn@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 15:40:51 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59Mepux001868 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59MepcB011757 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00507R03TF00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:40:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.43.22]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R002IER02B4D0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o59MeoCX026555 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o59Mencg031996 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:40:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 311778991276123247; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:47 -0700 Received: from [129.146.224.145] (/129.146.224.145) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:40:34 -0700 From: Sue Sohn Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C101862.8030801@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4C101872.000A:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090910) Status: RO Content-Length: 660 On 06/09/10 15:04, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Sue Sohn wrote: >> On 06/09/10 13:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> Is the user account created during the install granted any special >>> privileges or roles? >> There are no special privileges, it is similar to the user account >> created by the livecd's gui installer. > > The LiveCD GUI installer currently does assign extra priviledges to the > account created though - it puts an entry in /etc/user_attr allowing that > user to run commands as root via pfexec. > For the user account, root is a role. I thought you meant something beyond that since root being a role was mentioned in the materials. Sue From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 15:45:55 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o59MjtJx001929 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59MjsKg033448 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:45:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00C07R8IL100@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.118]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00M56R8IORD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.6.102.27] (sunray-osol-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.102.27]) by dm-sfbay-01.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o59Mjrqi002119; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:53 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C101862.8030801@oracle.com> To: Sue Sohn Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C1019A1.4040000@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> <4C101862.8030801@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 933 Sue Sohn wrote: > On 06/09/10 15:04, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Sue Sohn wrote: >>> On 06/09/10 13:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>> >>>> Is the user account created during the install granted any special >>>> privileges or roles? >>> There are no special privileges, it is similar to the user account >>> created by the livecd's gui installer. >> >> The LiveCD GUI installer currently does assign extra priviledges to the >> account created though - it puts an entry in /etc/user_attr allowing that >> user to run commands as root via pfexec. >> > > For the user account, root is a role. I thought you meant something > beyond that since root being a role was mentioned in the materials. Root being a role is why I suspected the user had more than basic privileges, but that wasn't called out in the case materials. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From Zhang.Yi@Sun.COM Wed Jun 9 18:34:41 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5A1YeVm004608 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5A1YeJn015873 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3R00M01Z1SB500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com ([192.18.6.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3R00FCZZ1R94A0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5A1Ycpr002471 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) id <0L3R00B00YZRFE00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.158.144.187] ([unknown] [129.158.144.187]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.04 64bit (built Jul 2 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3R00LNEZ1M4TE0@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:34:37 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:31:50 +0800 From: zhangyi Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> Sender: Zhang.Yi@Sun.COM To: John Fischer Cc: PSARC-ext , Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C104086.9040806@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100329 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 100 Is there possibility that iSCSI LUN selected as root for opensolaris to install in text installer? From john.fischer@oracle.com Thu Jun 10 15:27:52 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5AMRqi3016240 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5AMRqim045216 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3T00M03L2GE600@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.43.22]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3T00EU9L2F2P10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5AMRpx1025008 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:27:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5AMRo2b018030 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 315500961276208849; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:29 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:27:27 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C1019A1.4040000@oracle.com> To: Alan Coopersmith Cc: Sue Sohn , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C1166CF.8000206@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4C1166E6.01A9:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> <4C101862.8030801@oracle.com> <4C1019A1.4040000@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100510 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 2323 All, So Alan and I had an off alias conversation about his security question. I pointed out that the questionnaire talks about the security for the project: The creation of a user account is optional. If a user account is created, root is a role (not allowed to login). If the user account is not created, then a root login is allowed. The root password and the user account password are not required. However, if not provided, the user must respond to a confirmation dialog warning that the system is unsecured. Alan pointed out that this says nothing about the user account being added to /etc/user_attr with the flags "role=root" or whether it continues the LiveCD/GUI installer "bug" of also adding "profiles=Primary Administrator". Alan further stated that this is something that needs to be clearly documented for the many admins unfamiliar with rbac, that this user account isn't just the same as a default new user, but has this role, and if they delete it or create new users what to do. The project team confirmed the "profiles=Primary Administrator" issue as well. They further stated that even though the Text Installer has help screens this is nuance is not documented but believes that it would be something that would be helpful. We need further discussion on this topic. Thanks, John On 06/ 9/10 03:45 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Sue Sohn wrote: > >> On 06/09/10 15:04, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> Sue Sohn wrote: >>> >>>> On 06/09/10 13:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Is the user account created during the install granted any special >>>>> privileges or roles? >>>>> >>>> There are no special privileges, it is similar to the user account >>>> created by the livecd's gui installer. >>>> >>> The LiveCD GUI installer currently does assign extra priviledges to the >>> account created though - it puts an entry in /etc/user_attr allowing that >>> user to run commands as root via pfexec. >>> >>> >> For the user account, root is a role. I thought you meant something >> beyond that since root being a role was mentioned in the materials. >> > Root being a role is why I suspected the user had more than basic privileges, > but that wasn't called out in the case materials. > > From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Thu Jun 10 15:40:48 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5AMemKe016422 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5AMelJr009994 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3T00I0PLNZ9900@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3T002C8LNZYQ80@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5AMekYI012276 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:40:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5ALujMn005437 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:40:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 337539311276209568; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:39:28 -0700 Received: from [10.6.102.27] (/10.6.102.27) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:39:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:39:26 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C1166CF.8000206@oracle.com> To: John Fischer Cc: Sue Sohn , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner Message-id: <4C11699E.30701@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4C1169EE.007B:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C10083E.30506@oracle.com> <4C101000.9000602@oracle.com> <4C101862.8030801@oracle.com> <4C1019A1.4040000@oracle.com> <4C1166CF.8000206@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 628 Thanks for summarizing and providing the answers John. John Fischer wrote: > Alan pointed out that this says nothing about the user account being added > to /etc/user_attr with the flags "role=root" or whether it continues the > LiveCD/GUI installer "bug" of also adding "profiles=Primary Administrator". For details, the LiveCD bug is reported as/discussed in: https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=4885 I believe PSARC discussed this issue previously in the sudo & Interim Modernization cases. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Tue Jun 15 14:45:16 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5FLjG9N006992 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5FLjEEK005758 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L420072DSFF2N00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.11.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L4200CXASFE5090@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.6.102.27] (sunray-osol-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.102.27]) by dm-sfbay-02.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5FLjD5S006122; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:13 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer In-reply-to: <4C101843.6050100@oracle.com> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell Message-id: <4C17F469.2090204@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 References: <4C0FDD7E.1020500@oracle.com> <4C0FFBD6.2010305@oracle.com> <4C0FFFB4.2030907@oracle.com> <4C101843.6050100@oracle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090926) Status: RO Content-Length: 1553 Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Aside from the case materials, I happen to know from out-of-band discussions > with Install QA that there is currently an open bug where the text installer > cannot be used on SPARC systems displaying on a local console device driven > by a frame buffer without coherent console support. It's not clear where the > bug lies (presumably something in the ncurses implementation is relying on > something that is only supported by the in-kernel coherent console terminal > emulator and not the OBP terminal emulator) - but is coherent console support > going to be a dependency of this project or is that bug going to be root caused > and fixed in either the installer or ncurses? Offline discussion with some of the team members who investigated this issue has led us to the conclusion that the initial diagnosis was wrong, and there is no dependency on coherent console that needs to be called out in the case materials. There is a bug with display on the XVR-2500 card, which is now being tracked as: 6961487 Caiman text installer unusable on XVR-2500 console but since the text installer is operable on other SPARC graphics cards without coherent console support (I believe the test system used Expert3D lite graphics, for which the driver is not packaged in IPS, so coherent console mode cannot be used), it's not an undeclared dependency, just a bug, so does not need to be covered in this ARC review. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System From john.fischer@oracle.com Thu Jun 17 18:17:41 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5I1Hf73003937 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5I1HdwS021401 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L4600403RLF7A00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L46001Q2RLE6QE0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5I1Hcnq009736 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5I0C1OW012812 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:17:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 354209931276823856; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:36 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:17:33 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... To: PSARC-ext Cc: Dave Miner , Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell Message-id: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uMagIaXIe1YA5yvXSl/l4w)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4C1AC931.0237:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100524 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 7545 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_uMagIaXIe1YA5yvXSl/l4w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PSARC members, The project team has provided updated materials which have been placed under the commitment.materials directory. There is now an ARC cover page (ARC-CoverPage.html) which describes the changes between the inception and commitment materials. I have also added the attached draft opinion which is in the top level directory. There is also an HTML version of the draft opinion in the case directory. Please review these new materials and the draft opinion. Either provide feedback or vote on the case by COB Wednesday, June 30th, 2010. Thanks, John --Boundary_(ID_uMagIaXIe1YA5yvXSl/l4w) Content-type: text/plain; name=opinion-draft.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=opinion-draft.txt Oracle Systems Architecture Committee Oracle Proprietary/Need to Know Subject:  OpenSolaris Text Installer Submitted by:  Susan Sohn File:  PSARC/2010/165/opinion.html Date:  TBD Committee:  John Fischer, TBD. Product Approval Committee:  N/A 1. Summary The Text Installer is a mouseless, screen-oriented installer designed for use on SPARC and x86 systems that may not have graphics support such as many server-class machines. 2. Decision & Precedence Information The project is approved as specified in reference [1]. The project may be delivered in a minor release of the ON Consolidation. 3. Interfaces The project exports the following interfaces. Interfaces Exported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- ------------------- -------------------- /usr/lib/text-install Uncommitted CLI system/install/text-install Committed IPS package name ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/tgt.so Private to Target Instantiation and Target Discovery ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/libzoneinfo.so Private to /usr/lib/\ libzoneinfo.so system/install-setup:default Uncommitted SMF Install service The project imports the following interfaces. Interfaces Imported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- ------------------- -------------------- libzoneinfo.so.1 Contracted Private LSARC/2001/015 Python2.6 Uncommitted PSARC/2009/043 libdiskmgt.so.1 Consolidation LSARC/2004/743 Private Distribution Constructor Committed PSARC/2009/471 libncurses.so Contracted Volatile LSARC/2008/524 menu.lst (grub) Evolving PSARC/2004/454 4. Opinion This project had a successful inception review which did not have any major concerns that could not be corrected by specification updates. Thus the case was approved by updating those specifications and taking an email vote. The issues listed below reflect the substantial inception review issues. 4.1 Static IP and IPv6 Networking The inception UI specifications discussed the longer term UI for setting up the various NICs. The project team stated that the current review was based upon allowing networking to be setup via NWAM or not established. Static and IPv6 configurations will be reviewed in a future fast track and be based upon the “interfaces for basic install network configuration” case (PSARC/2010/164). There will be documentation in the commitment materials explaining that the Static IP and IPv6 Network section of the UI specification are not covered by this case (reference [2]). The committee was fine with the OpenSolaris Text Installer not being dependent upon that case and following up with a fast track. 4.2 text-install Command Installation Location As specified the project installs text-installer into /usr/bin. When questioned about the usage of the command the project team stated that there are a few edge use cases where the end user might execute the command from a command line. The majority of uses would simply be to insert a disc and the text-installer automatically starts on boot. The committee stated that perhaps a better installation location might be /usr/lib. The project team has decided to install the text-installer into the /usr/lib directory. The committee was fine with the resolution of this issue. 4.3 Root and User Passwords Not Required The committee noted that the root and user passwords are not required at install time. The project team stated that they were following current Best Practices with regards to installation technologies. The installation user is warned that the system will be installed in an unsafe manor. The committee was fine with the issue. 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the Primary Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going away. The issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). In that case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: 1. remove the root password prompt 2. require an initial user login name and password 3. set the root password to the initial user password 4. the root is type=role 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights Profile 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). sp_lstchg == 0 username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this requirement and deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - [1]). The committee was fine with the issue. 5. Minority Opinion(s) None 6. Advisory Information None 7. Appendices 7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required None 7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised None 7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory (PSARC/2010/165). 1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt Standard PSARC Questionnaire 2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review 3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format 4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format 5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical format --Boundary_(ID_uMagIaXIe1YA5yvXSl/l4w)-- From john.fischer@oracle.com Fri Jun 18 08:08:55 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IF8sfa010067 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IF8pZw058144 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:08:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L470022JU2R1I00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L4700GW9U2QOMA0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IF8nTK024431 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5IAu9Fh018333 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:08:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt006.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 355629611276873695; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:15 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:13 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> To: PSARC-ext Cc: Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iAtI7L2LSjTH4CZjxt6nAA)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4C1B8C01.0158:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100524 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 22874 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_iAtI7L2LSjTH4CZjxt6nAA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PSARC members, Updated opinion based upon feedback provided. Case directory is updated. Thanks, John ?Oracle Systems Architecture Committee Oracle Proprietary/Need to Know Subject: OpenSolaris Text Installer Submitted by: Susan Sohn File: PSARC/2010/165/opinion.html Date: TBD Committee: John Fischer, TBD. Product Approval Committee: N/A 1. Summary The Text Installer is a mouseless, screen-oriented installer designed for use on SPARC and x86 systems that may not have graphics support such as many server-class machines. 2. Decision & Precedence Information The project is approved as specified in reference [1]. The project may be delivered in a minor release of the ON Consolidation. 3. Interfaces The project exports the following interfaces. Interfaces Exported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- --------------------------- -------------------- /usr/lib/text-install Uncommitted CLI system/install/text-install Committed IPS package name ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/tgt.so Private to Target Instantiation and Target Discovery ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/libzoneinfo.so Private to /usr/lib/\ libzoneinfo.so system/install-setup:default Uncommitted SMF Install service The project imports the following interfaces. Interfaces Imported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- --------------------- -------------------- libzoneinfo.so.1 Contracted Private LSARC/2001/015 Python2.6 Uncommitted PSARC/2009/043 libdiskmgt.so.1 Consolidation LSARC/2004/743 Private Distribution Constructor Committed PSARC/2009/471 libncurses.so Contracted Volatile LSARC/2008/524 menu.lst (grub) Committed PSARC/2004/454 4. Opinion This project had a successful inception review which did not have any major concerns that could not be corrected by specification updates. Thus the case was approved by updating those specifications and taking an email vote. The issues listed below reflect the substantial inception review issues. 4.1 Static IP and IPv6 Networking The inception UI specifications discussed the longer term UI for setting up the various NICs. The project team stated that the current review was based upon allowing networking to be setup via NWAM or not established. Static and IPv6 configurations will be reviewed in a future fast track and be based upon the "interfaces for basic install network configuration" case (PSARC/2010/164). There will be documentation in the commitment materials explaining that the Static IP and IPv6 Network section of the UI specification are not covered by this case (reference [2]). The committee was fine with the OpenSolaris Text Installer not being dependent upon that case and following up with a fast track. 4.2 text-install Command Installation Location As specified the project installs text-installer into /usr/bin. When questioned about the usage of the command the project team stated that there are a few edge use cases where the end user might execute the command from a command line. The majority of uses would simply be to insert a disc and the text-installer automatically starts on boot. The committee stated that perhaps a better installation location might be /usr/lib. The project team has decided to install the text-installer into the /usr/lib directory. The committee was fine with the resolution of this issue. 4.3 Root and User Passwords Not Required The committee noted that the root and user passwords are not required at install time. The project team stated that they were following current Best Practices with regards to installation technologies. The installation user is warned that the system will be installed in an unsafe manner. The committee was fine with the issue. 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the Primary Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going away. The issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). In that case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: 1. remove the root password prompt 2. require an initial user login name and password 3. set the root password to the initial user password 4. the root is type=role 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights Profile 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). sp_lstchg == 0 username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this requirement and deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - [1]). The committee was fine with the issue. 5. Minority Opinion(s) None 6. Advisory Information None 7. Appendices 7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required None 7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised None 7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory (PSARC/2010/165). 1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt Standard PSARC Questionnaire 2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review 3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format 4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format 5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical format On 06/17/10 06:17 PM, John Fischer wrote: > PSARC members, > > The project team has provided updated materials which have been placed > under > the commitment.materials directory. There is now an ARC cover page > (ARC-CoverPage.html) which describes the changes between the inception > and > commitment materials. > > I have also added the attached draft opinion which is in the top level > directory. > There is also an HTML version of the draft opinion in the case directory. > > Please review these new materials and the draft opinion. Either > provide feedback > or vote on the case by COB Wednesday, June 30th, 2010. > > Thanks, > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-arc mailing list > opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org --Boundary_(ID_iAtI7L2LSjTH4CZjxt6nAA) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PSARC members,

Updated opinion based upon feedback provided.
Case directory is updated.

Thanks,

John



Oracle
Systems Architecture Committee

Oracle Proprietary/Need to Know

Subject:                                          OpenSolaris Text Installer
Submitted by:                                Susan Sohn
File:                                                PSARC/2010/165/opinion.html
Date:                                              TBD
Committee:                                    John Fischer, TBD.
Product Approval Committee:     N/A
1. Summary
The Text Installer is a mouseless, screen-oriented installer designed for use
on SPARC and x86 systems that may not have graphics support such as many
server-class machines.

2. Decision & Precedence Information
The project is approved as specified in reference [1].

The project may be delivered in a minor release of the ON Consolidation.

3. Interfaces
The project exports the following interfaces.
Interfaces Exported
Interface                                                       Classification      Comments
---------------------------------------                               ---------------------------  --------------------
/usr/lib/text-install                                       Uncommitted        CLI

system/install/text-install                            Committed            IPS package name

${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\  Consolidation       Python to C bridge
    osol_install/tgt.so                                    Private                   to Target
                                                                                                     Instantiation and
                                                                                                     Target Discovery

${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation       Python to C bridge
    osol_install/libzoneinfo.so                      Private                  to /usr/lib/\
                                                                                                   libzoneinfo.so

system/install-setup:default                      Uncommitted        SMF Install service

The project imports the following interfaces.
Interfaces Imported
Interface                                 Classification           Comments
---------------------------------------         ---------------------             --------------------
libzoneinfo.so.1                     Contracted Private  LSARC/2001/015

Python2.6                               Uncommitted           PSARC/2009/043

libdiskmgt.so.1                      Consolidation          LSARC/2004/743
                                                Private

Distribution Constructor     Committed                PSARC/2009/471

libncurses.so                        Contracted Volatile  LSARC/2008/524

menu.lst (grub)                    Committed                PSARC/2004/454

4. Opinion
This project had a successful inception review which did not have any major
concerns that could not be corrected by specification updates. Thus the case
was approved by updating those specifications and taking an email vote. The
issues listed below reflect the substantial inception review issues.

4.1 Static IP and IPv6 Networking
The inception UI specifications discussed the longer term UI for setting up the
various NICs. The project team stated that the current review was based upon
allowing networking to be setup via NWAM or not established. Static and IPv6
configurations will be reviewed in a future fast track and be based upon the
“interfaces for basic install network configuration” case (PSARC/2010/164).
There will be documentation in the commitment materials explaining that the
Static IP and IPv6 Network section of the UI specification are not covered by
this case (reference [2]). The committee was fine with the OpenSolaris Text
Installer not being dependent upon that case and following up with a fast track.

4.2 text-install Command Installation Location
As specified the project installs text-installer into /usr/bin. When questioned
about the usage of the command the project team stated that there are a few edge
use cases where the end user might execute the command from a command line. The
majority of uses would simply be to insert a disc and the text-installer
automatically starts on boot. The committee stated that perhaps a better
installation location might be /usr/lib. The project team has decided to install
the text-installer into the /usr/lib directory.  The committee was fine with the
resolution of this issue.

4.3 Root and User Passwords Not Required
The committee noted that the root and user passwords are not required at install
time. The project team stated that they were following current Best Practices
with regards to installation technologies. The installation user is warned that
the system will be installed in an unsafe manner. The committee was fine with
the issue.

4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator
The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the Primary
Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going away. The
issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). In that
case the project team agreed to modify the installers to:

    1. remove the root password prompt
    2. require an initial user login name and password
    3. set the root password to the initial user password
    4. the root is type=role
    5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root)
    6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands
    7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights
       Profile
    8. the password hash algorithm is sha256
    9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f).
       sp_lstchg == 0
       username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag
       sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag

The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this requirement and
deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - [1]). The
committee was fine with the issue.

5. Minority Opinion(s)

None

6. Advisory Information

None

7. Appendices
7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required

None

7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised

None

7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material
Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory (PSARC/2010/165).

1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt
  Standard PSARC Questionnaire
2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html
  ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review
3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt
  Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format
4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf
  Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format
5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html
  Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical format


On 06/17/10 06:17 PM, John Fischer wrote:
PSARC members,

The project team has provided updated materials which have been placed under
the commitment.materials directory.  There is now an ARC cover page
(ARC-CoverPage.html) which describes the changes between the inception and
commitment materials.

I have also added the attached draft opinion which is in the top level directory.
There is also an HTML version of the draft opinion in the case directory.

Please review these new materials and the draft opinion.  Either provide feedback
or vote on the case by COB Wednesday, June 30th, 2010.

Thanks,

John 


_______________________________________________
opensolaris-arc mailing list
opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org

--Boundary_(ID_iAtI7L2LSjTH4CZjxt6nAA)-- From Darren.Moffat@oracle.com Fri Jun 18 08:36:38 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IFacAF010527 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IFaa5Y003071 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:36:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L470030FVD0DY00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L4700G7XVCZONC0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IFaYou022760 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:36:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5IE3vYf031034 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 338960501276875303; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:35:03 -0700 Received: from [10.7.251.221] (/10.7.251.221) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:35:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:34:58 +0100 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> To: John Fischer Cc: PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> Organization: Oracle Solaris Security MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4C1B9281.0252:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100412 Lightning/1.0b1 OracleBeehiveExtension/1.0.0.0pre3 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 3544 On 18/06/2010 16:08, John Fischer wrote: > 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator > The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the > Primary > Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going > away. The > issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). > In that > case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: "Primary Administrator" is a Rights Profile not a Role. The distinction is very important. It is the fact that the profile is assigned directly to a user rather than a role what was the whole problem. Also "Primary Administrator" as a Rights Profile is not planned to "go away". The advice of the security team was not to assign "Primary Administrator" to the initial user directly. The main reason this was done early on in the Caiman GUI installer was because other technology like the RBAC "Console User" profile wasn't available and neither was sudo. > 1. remove the root password prompt > 2. require an initial user login name and password > 3. set the root password to the initial user password > 4. the root is type=role > 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) > 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands > 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights > Profile "initial user" > 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 > 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). > sp_lstchg == 0 > username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag > sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag That is all fine. > The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this > requirement and > deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - > [1]). The > committee was fine with the issue. > > 5. Minority Opinion(s) > > None > > 6. Advisory Information > > None > > 7. Appendices > 7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required > > None > > 7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised > > None > > 7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material > Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory > (PSARC/2010/165). > > 1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt > Standard PSARC Questionnaire > 2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html > ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review > 3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt > Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format > 4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf > Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format > 5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html > Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical format > > > On 06/17/10 06:17 PM, John Fischer wrote: >> PSARC members, >> >> The project team has provided updated materials which have been placed >> under >> the commitment.materials directory. There is now an ARC cover page >> (ARC-CoverPage.html) which describes the changes between the inception >> and >> commitment materials. >> >> I have also added the attached draft opinion which is in the top level >> directory. >> There is also an HTML version of the draft opinion in the case directory. >> >> Please review these new materials and the draft opinion. Either >> provide feedback >> or vote on the case by COB Wednesday, June 30th, 2010. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-arc mailing list >> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org > -- Darren J Moffat From john.fischer@oracle.com Fri Jun 18 08:40:59 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IFexnA010570 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IFewhH010443 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L4700H1HVKAK900@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.43.22]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L4700EXBVK9AQ50@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by sca-ea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IFevhw028683 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:40:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5ICvKxQ021653 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 338986931276875642; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:42 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:40:39 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> To: Darren J Moffat Cc: PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C1B9377.7060504@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4C1B9389.0037:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100524 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 3970 Darren, I'll update the opinion accordingly. Please note that the project team is not using the Primary Administrator Rights Profile. Instead is using the points outlined so this is only an opinion wording issue. I'll update the opinion. Thanks, John On 06/18/10 08:34 AM, Darren J Moffat wrote: > On 18/06/2010 16:08, John Fischer wrote: >> 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator >> The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the >> Primary >> Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going >> away. The >> issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). >> In that >> case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: > > "Primary Administrator" is a Rights Profile not a Role. The > distinction is very important. It is the fact that the profile is > assigned directly to a user rather than a role what was the whole > problem. > > Also "Primary Administrator" as a Rights Profile is not planned to "go > away". > > The advice of the security team was not to assign "Primary > Administrator" to the initial user directly. The main reason this was > done early on in the Caiman GUI installer was because other technology > like the RBAC "Console User" profile wasn't available and neither was > sudo. > >> 1. remove the root password prompt >> 2. require an initial user login name and password >> 3. set the root password to the initial user password >> 4. the root is type=role >> 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) >> 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all >> commands >> 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights >> Profile > > "initial user" > >> 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 >> 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). >> sp_lstchg == 0 >> username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag >> sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag > > That is all fine. > >> The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this >> requirement and >> deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - >> [1]). The >> committee was fine with the issue. >> >> 5. Minority Opinion(s) >> >> None >> >> 6. Advisory Information >> >> None >> >> 7. Appendices >> 7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required >> >> None >> >> 7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised >> >> None >> >> 7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material >> Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory >> (PSARC/2010/165). >> >> 1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt >> Standard PSARC Questionnaire >> 2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html >> ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review >> 3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt >> Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format >> 4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf >> Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format >> 5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html >> Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical >> format >> >> >> On 06/17/10 06:17 PM, John Fischer wrote: >>> PSARC members, >>> >>> The project team has provided updated materials which have been placed >>> under >>> the commitment.materials directory. There is now an ARC cover page >>> (ARC-CoverPage.html) which describes the changes between the inception >>> and >>> commitment materials. >>> >>> I have also added the attached draft opinion which is in the top level >>> directory. >>> There is also an HTML version of the draft opinion in the case >>> directory. >>> >>> Please review these new materials and the draft opinion. Either >>> provide feedback >>> or vote on the case by COB Wednesday, June 30th, 2010. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-arc mailing list >>> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org >> > From john.fischer@oracle.com Fri Jun 18 08:57:19 2010 Received: from sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3mpk.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.52]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IFvJ5K011020 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail3mpk.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IFvJR0029124 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L4700N09WBJ5400@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:57:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L47007I4WBI69E0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IFvHOl002800 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:57:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5IEs3aY003768 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:57:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 355765091276876616; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:56:56 -0700 Received: from [10.7.250.84] (/10.7.250.84) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:56:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:56:54 -0700 From: John Fischer Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1B9377.7060504@oracle.com> To: PSARC-ext Cc: Dave Miner , Sue Sohn , Keith Mitchell Message-id: <4C1B9746.2080402@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4C1B975D.00A0:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> <4C1B9377.7060504@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100524 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 5925 PSARC members, Updated opinion includes grub.lst taxonomy updated to Committed and Primary Administrator Rights Profile discussion updated. Thanks, John Oracle Systems Architecture Committee Oracle Proprietary/Need to Know Subject: OpenSolaris Text Installer Submitted by: Susan Sohn File: PSARC/2010/165/opinion.html Date: TBD Committee: John Fischer, TBD. Product Approval Committee: N/A 1. Summary The Text Installer is a mouseless, screen-oriented installer designed for use on SPARC and x86 systems that may not have graphics support such as many server-class machines. 2. Decision & Precedence Information The project is approved as specified in reference [1]. The project may be delivered in a minor release of the ON Consolidation. 3. Interfaces The project exports the following interfaces. Interfaces Exported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- ------------------- -------------------- /usr/lib/text-install Uncommitted CLI system/install/text-install Committed IPS package name ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/tgt.so Private to Target Instantiation and Target Discovery ${root}/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/\ Consolidation Python to C bridge osol_install/libzoneinfo.so Private to /usr/lib/\ libzoneinfo.so system/install-setup:default Uncommitted SMF Install service The project imports the following interfaces. Interfaces Imported Interface Classification Comments --------------------------------------- ------------------- -------------------- libzoneinfo.so.1 Contracted Private LSARC/2001/015 Python2.6 Uncommitted PSARC/2009/043 libdiskmgt.so.1 Consolidation LSARC/2004/743 Private Distribution Constructor Committed PSARC/2009/471 libncurses.so Contracted Volatile LSARC/2008/524 menu.lst (grub) Committed PSARC/2004/454 4. Opinion This project had a successful inception review which did not have any major concerns that could not be corrected by specification updates. Thus the case was approved by updating those specifications and taking an email vote. The issues listed below reflect the substantial inception review issues. 4.1 Static IP and IPv6 Networking The inception UI specifications discussed the longer term UI for setting up the various NICs. The project team stated that the current review was based upon allowing networking to be setup via NWAM or not established. Static and IPv6 configurations will be reviewed in a future fast track and be based upon the “interfaces for basic install network configuration” case (PSARC/2010/164). There will be documentation in the commitment materials explaining that the Static IP and IPv6 Network section of the UI specification are not covered by this case (reference [2]). The committee was fine with the OpenSolaris Text Installer not being dependent upon that case and following up with a fast track. 4.2 text-install Command Installation Location As specified the project installs text-installer into /usr/bin. When questioned about the usage of the command the project team stated that there are a few edge use cases where the end user might execute the command from a command line. The majority of uses would simply be to insert a disc and the text-installer automatically starts on boot. The committee stated that perhaps a better installation location might be /usr/lib. The project team has decided to install the text-installer into the /usr/lib directory. The committee was fine with the resolution of this issue. 4.3 Root and User Passwords Not Required The committee noted that the root and user passwords are not required at install time. The project team stated that they were following current Best Practices with regards to installation technologies. The installation user is warned that the system will be installed in an unsafe manner. The committee was fine with the issue. 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the Primary Administrator Rights Profile. The committee pointed out that this Rights Profile is going away. The issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). In that case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: 1. remove the root password prompt 2. require an initial user login name and password 3. set the root password to the initial user password 4. the root is type=role 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights Profile 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). sp_lstchg == 0 username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag The specification for this case will be modified to reflect this requirement and deposited in the case directory as commitment materials (Appendix C - [1]). The committee was fine with the issue. 5. Minority Opinion(s) None 6. Advisory Information None 7. Appendices 7.1 Appendix A: Technical Changes Required None 7.2 Appendix B: Technical Changes Advised None 7.3 Appendix C: Reference Material Unless otherwise stated, path names are relative to the case directory (PSARC/2010/165). 1.commitment.materials/PSARC-Questionnaire.txt Standard PSARC Questionnaire 2.commitment.materials/ARC-CoverPage.html ARC cover page describing the case and documents included for review 3.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.odt Text Installer Design Document Open Document Text format 4.commitment.materials/designdocv2.0.9.pdf Text Installer Design Document Portable Document Format 5.commitment.materials/spec10-21.html Solaris Caiman Text-based Installer UI Specification non-graphical format From sacadmin Fri Jun 18 08:59:18 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IFxIet011034 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IFxH9x020921 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L470040DWETGU00@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L4700GPEWETOPD0@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com> for psarc@sun.com (ORCPT psarc@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IFxGqj003698 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:59:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5IFxFa2012289 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt017.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 339066311276876684; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:58:04 -0700 Received: from gwws-macbook-pro.local (/10.7.251.252) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:58:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:57:34 -0700 From: Gary Winiger Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> To: John Fischer Cc: psarc@sun.com, Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C1B976E.3090206@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4C1B97D4.00A1:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 2078 John, members, and project team, On 6/18/10 8:08 AM, John Fischer wrote: > PSARC members, PSARC-EXT replaced with PSARC. > 4.1 Static IP and IPv6 Networking Talking the other day with some SunFed folk, I continue to forget the Oracle group name;-(, they emphasize that a significant set of Government customers will be IPv6 only by the time S11 ships. And if I understood correctly with only "static" addresses. The folk said without full IPv6 support out of the box, sales will be lost to competitors. Comments below. Gary.. > 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator > The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the > Primary > Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going > away. The > issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). Primary Administrator is a Rights Profile. It is NOT a role. A role is a "shared" account that can not be logged into, but can only be "assumed" (su-ed to) by users who are "granted" the role. Rights Profiles can be "granted" to both user and role accounts. IMO, it is important to be accurate when talking about Rights Profiles and roles. > In that > case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: > > 1. remove the root password prompt > 2. require an initial user login name and password > 3. set the root password to the initial user password > 4. the root is type=role ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I should have been more clear. make the root account a role (type=role) or set the root account type to role. > 5. the initial user is granted the root role (type=normal;roles=root) > 6. the initial user is put in /etc/sudoers -- presumable with all commands > 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights > Profile > 8. the password hash algorithm is sha256 > 9. the root account password is installed as expired (passwd -f). > sp_lstchg == 0 > username:password:lastchg:min:max:warn:inactive:expire:flag > sp_namp:sp_pwdp:sp_lstchg:sp_min:sp_max:sp_inact:ex_expire:sp_flag From gary.winiger@oracle.com Fri Jun 18 09:04:32 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5IG4VwM011115 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o5IG4UTn017665 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:psarc-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L470012BWNJ8E00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L470005TWNHOZ10@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for psarc-ext@sun.com (ORCPT psarc-ext@sun.com); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o5IG4T05002601 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:04:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5IG4Rdl032330 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt010.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 339098231276877060; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:04:20 -0700 Received: from gwws-macbook-pro.local (/10.7.251.252) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:04:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:03:51 -0700 From: Gary Winiger Subject: Re: PSARC/2010/165 - OpenSolaris Text Installer email vote... In-reply-to: <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> To: Darren J Moffat Cc: John Fischer , PSARC-ext , Keith Mitchell , Dave Miner , Sue Sohn Message-id: <4C1B98E7.3070604@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4C1B990D.0001:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C1AC92D.2010602@oracle.com> <4C1B8BDD.7070008@oracle.com> <4C1B9222.8010101@Oracle.COM> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 1261 On 6/18/10 8:34 AM, Darren J Moffat wrote: > On 18/06/2010 16:08, John Fischer wrote: >> 4.4 User Installed as Primary Administrator >> The initial user installed by the Caiman installers have been given the >> Primary >> Administrator role. The committee pointed out that this role is going >> away. The >> issue was discussed in the Solaris Modernization case (PSARC/2010/067). >> In that >> case the project team agreed to modify the installers to: > > "Primary Administrator" is a Rights Profile not a Role. The distinction > is very important. It is the fact that the profile is assigned directly > to a user rather than a role what was the whole problem. > > Also "Primary Administrator" as a Rights Profile is not planned to "go > away". Yes it is. PSARC/2009/652 User, RBAC and Labeled Networking Administration will be removing it along with all the "suser" and "act" type entries. Primary Administrator is a bug. With root as a role, there is no reason for Primary Administrator. Gary.. P.S. I'll be requesting a case date for 2009/652 shortly. >> 7. the initial use is no longer granted the Primary Administrator Rights >> Profile > > "initial user" Yup. No matter how may times the 6 of us read this we didn't catch all the typos ;-(