From sacadmin Tue May 25 12:46:42 2010 Received: from sac.sfbay.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4PJkgt5020614; Tue, 25 May 2010 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dp@localhost) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id o4PJkgKv020610; Tue, 25 May 2010 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Price Message-Id: <201005251946.o4PJkgKv020610@sac.sfbay.sun.com> To: PSARC-record@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: Daniel.Price@Sun.COM Subject: FMLI EOF [PSARC/2010/192 FastTrack timeout 06/02/2010] Status: RO Content-Length: 579 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.70 03/30/10 SMI This information is Copyright (c) 2010, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: FMLI EOF 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Daniel Price 1.3 Date of This Document: 25 May, 2010 4. Technical Description See the case directory for more detail 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From daniel.price@oracle.com Tue May 25 13:01:44 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4PK1hdM021126 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o4PK1hR9025340 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:01:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L2Z00D05RMVZB00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 14:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.17.59]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L2Z00G2XRMUJ9F0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 14:01:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from xanadu (xanadu.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.228.194]) by jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o4PK1g3n723670 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:01:42 -0700 From: Dan Price Subject: PSARC 2010/192 FMLI EOF To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Status: RO Content-Length: 2058 I am filing this case on behalf of myself. This case completes work begun half a decade ago in PSARC/2005/592, by EOFing the FMLI facility. I have set the timer to Jun 2, 2010. -dp - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FMLI EOF Daniel Price (dp@eng) ---------------- This case requests EOF of the FMLI facility (Form and Menu Language Interpreter). This case is a followup to PSARC/2005/592[1], which EOLed this feature with minor release binding. Please see that case for more details, as it extensively explored the rationale for the EOL. We have no new information to add to the rationale at this time. PSARC/2005/592 noted a dependency by Live Upgrade's "lu" utility on the FMLI interpreter. Since the LU command is now obsolete[2], the time has come for FMLI to go to a nice farm upstate where it can be free to roam with crash(1m) and vold(1m). FMLI presently delivers two binaries: /usr/bin/fmli - invoke FMLI /usr/bin/vsig - synchronize a co-process with the controlling FMLI application These will be removed. The FMLI man pages consist of: fmli.1 cocheck.1f echo.1f indicator.1f reinit.1f test.1f cocreate.1f fmlcut.1f longline.1f reset.1f unset.1f codestroy.1f fmlexpr.1f message.1f run.1f vsig.1f coproc.1f fmlgrep.1f pathconv.1f set.1f coreceive.1f getfrm.1f readfile.1f setcolor.1f cosend.1f getitems.1f regex.1f shell.1f (Note that some common-sounding commands such as echo(1f) are *not* the same as their section 1 equivalents, such as echo(1)). These manual pages as well as other references to FMLI in the system documentation will be removed. ---------------- 5. References [1] D. Price. "AT&T FACE and FMLI EOL", PSARC/2005/592. [2] E. Layton. "SNAP BE Management", PSARC/2010/059. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Daniel Price, Solaris Kernel Engineering http://blogs.sun.com/dp From sebastien.roy@oracle.com Tue May 25 13:17:56 2010 Received: from sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (sunmail6brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.169]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4PKHujY021648 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by sunmail6brm.central.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o4PKHtBN001826 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:17:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L2Z00I0ZSDUW500@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 13:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L2Z003EVSDTLMA0@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 13:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o4PKHqLg010486 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 20:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o4PCloHd019636 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 20:17:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 267412991274818637; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:17:17 -0700 Received: from [129.148.174.103] (/129.148.174.103) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:17:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:17:16 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: PSARC 2010/192 FMLI EOF In-reply-to: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> To: Dan Price Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BFC304C.5050606@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A0B0204.4BFC3070.0106:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100412 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 263 On 05/25/10 04:01 PM, Dan Price wrote: > I am filing this case on behalf of myself. This case completes work > begun half a decade ago in PSARC/2005/592, by EOFing the FMLI facility. Given the context of lu going away, this is rather straightforward. +1 -Seb From daniel.price@oracle.com Tue May 25 13:51:29 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4PKpTT0022554 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o4PKpSm9029556 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 25 May 2010 14:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L2Z00I07TXS9L00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 14:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.17.59]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L2Z00E96TXSET20@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 14:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from xanadu (xanadu.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.228.194]) by jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o4PKpR6G729164; Tue, 25 May 2010 13:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:51:27 -0700 From: Dan Price Subject: Re: PSARC 2010/192 FMLI EOF In-reply-to: <4BFC304C.5050606@oracle.com> To: Sebastien Roy Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20100525205127.GF28977@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> <4BFC304C.5050606@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Status: RO Content-Length: 528 On Tue 25 May 2010 at 04:17PM, Sebastien Roy wrote: > On 05/25/10 04:01 PM, Dan Price wrote: > >I am filing this case on behalf of myself. This case completes work > >begun half a decade ago in PSARC/2005/592, by EOFing the FMLI facility. > > Given the context of lu going away, this is rather straightforward. +1 Is it sufficiently straightforward that you think I could accelerate the timeout? I'd be happy to not wait a whole week :) -dp -- Daniel Price, Solaris Kernel Engineering http://blogs.sun.com/dp From sebastien.roy@oracle.com Tue May 25 15:08:24 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4PM8OA1024319 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o4PM8O9V011553 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L2Z0020HXI01N00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 16:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.98.31]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L2Z00EJCXHYEM70@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Tue, 25 May 2010 16:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o4PM8MPs017595 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 22:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o4PHODT8027766 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 22:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 297655851274825299; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:08:19 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (/173.76.19.159) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 25 May 2010 15:08:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:08:18 -0400 From: Sebastien Roy Subject: Re: PSARC 2010/192 FMLI EOF In-reply-to: <20100525205127.GF28977@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> To: Dan Price Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <4BFC4A52.9070303@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4BFC4A56.0097:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> <4BFC304C.5050606@oracle.com> <20100525205127.GF28977@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100510 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 749 On 05/25/10 04:51 PM, Dan Price wrote: > On Tue 25 May 2010 at 04:17PM, Sebastien Roy wrote: >> On 05/25/10 04:01 PM, Dan Price wrote: >>> I am filing this case on behalf of myself. This case completes work >>> begun half a decade ago in PSARC/2005/592, by EOFing the FMLI facility. >> >> Given the context of lu going away, this is rather straightforward. +1 > > Is it sufficiently straightforward that you think I could accelerate > the timeout? I'd be happy to not wait a whole week :) We typically require cases to at least stay open for 48hrs to allow the general engineering community to see it before it's approved. I don't have a problem with shortening the timer to at least accomodate that 48hr window. Would that suit you? -Seb From daniel.price@oracle.com Fri Jun 4 10:18:08 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o54HI8mi019529 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o54HI79Q006639 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L3I001012Q7PH00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.17.63]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L3I0080C2Q7VGD0@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from xanadu (xanadu.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.228.194]) by jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o54HI69l883176 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:18:06 -0700 From: Dan Price Subject: Re: PSARC 2010/192 FMLI EOF In-reply-to: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Message-id: <20100604171802.GA12353@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 References: <20100525200134.GA25807@xanadu.sfbay.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Status: RO Content-Length: 389 On Tue 25 May 2010 at 01:01PM, Dan Price wrote: > > I am filing this case on behalf of myself. This case completes work > begun half a decade ago in PSARC/2005/592, by EOFing the FMLI facility. > I have set the timer to Jun 2, 2010. > > -dp This case was approved. I am marking it as such. -dp -- Daniel Price, Solaris Kernel Engineering http://blogs.sun.com/dp