From sacadmin Thu Jul 15 14:50:30 2010 Received: from tethys.Eng.Sun.COM (tethys.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.226.92]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6FLoUMq029957; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tethys.Eng.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tethys.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6FLoUIm015896; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jg@localhost) by tethys.Eng.Sun.COM (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) id o6FLoUTD015893; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Gilliam Message-Id: <201007152150.o6FLoUTD015893@tethys.Eng.Sun.COM> To: PSARC-record@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support [PSARC/2010/271 FastTrack timeout 07/23/2010] Status: RO Content-Length: 624 Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.70 03/30/10 SMI This information is Copyright (c) 2010, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Jan Seje-Eilers 1.3 Date of This Document: 15 July, 2010 4. Technical Description See the case directory for more detail 6. Resources and Schedule 6.4. Steering Committee requested information 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: ON 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack 6.6. ARC Exposure: open From jerry.gilliam@oracle.com Thu Jul 15 14:53:37 2010 Received: from sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.234]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6FLrarv000004 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (brm-avmta-1.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.4.11]) by sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o6FLrZXK019565; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L5M00D0NCTCKE00@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L5M009ZNCTB8S50@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o6FLrZl5011262; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6FBCat1019819; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:53:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 409521761279230813; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:33 -0700 Received: from [129.146.226.92] (/129.146.226.92) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:32 -0700 From: Jerry Gilliam Subject: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support [PSARC/2010/271 fasttrack timeout 07/23/2010] To: PSARC-ext@sun.com Cc: Jan Setje-Eilers , Seth Goldberg , Brian.Dowdy@sun.com, Shidokht Yadegari , Dan Mick , Enrico Message-id: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A0B0205.4C3F835F.0018:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100607 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 2392 I'm sponsoring this case on behalf of Jan Setje-Eilers as a fast-track, with timeout set to 07/23/2010. 1. Introduction This case requests the removal and EOF of the installgrub(1M) support for floppy disks. Minor release binding is requested. 2. Discussion installgrub(1M) is responsible of installing the GRUB bootloader on a given partition and/or on the master boot record of a storage device. Along with understanding and supporting the standard Solaris partition, installgrub is capable of handling floppy disks which are a special label-free case of pcfs/FAT. Since the EOL of the v20z, we do not support any systems equipped with a floppy disk. Floppy disks are a dying technology, surpassed by USB flash memory sticks and CD/DVD ROM/WORM and RW, both of which can be used (with the vast majority of BIOS releases) to bootstrap a system. Removing the support for installing GRUB on floppy disks simplifies the installgrub code and makes it cleaner for a future transition to new major versions of the boot loader. 3. Interface table PSARC 2004/454 states the installgrub(1M) interface as "Evolving" Passing /dev/rdiskette to installgrub post remove will produce a message indicating that floppies are no longer supported. 4. References PSARC 2004/454 Solaris Boot Architecture 5. Manual page differences --- installgrub_orig.txt Fri Jun 25 06:04:58 2010 +++ installgrub_new.txt Fri Jun 25 06:07:39 2010 @@ -48,8 +48,7 @@ that is readable and writable. For disk dev- ices, specify the slice where the GRUB menu file is located. (For Solaris it is the root - slice.) For a floppy disk, it is - /dev/rdiskette. + slice.) EXAMPLES @@ -79,20 +78,7 @@ /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c0d0s0 - Example 2 Installing GRUB on a Floppy - - The following command installs GRUB on a formatted floppy: - - - example# mount -F pcfs /dev/diskette /mnt - # mkdir -p /mnt/boot/grub - # cp /boot/grub/* /mnt/boot/grub - # umount /mnt - # cd /boot/grub - # /sbin/installgrub stage1 stage2 /dev/rdiskette - - FILES /boot/grub Directory where GRUB files reside. From Darren.Moffat@oracle.com Fri Jul 16 01:39:28 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6G8dSVx008465 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (nwk-avmta-2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.6]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o6G8dPnP010737; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L5N00A0P6PQJ500@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.43.24]) by nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L5N007Y16PP0A20@nwk-avmta-2.sfbay.sun.com>; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by sca-ea-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o6G8dPAx008590; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:39:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6G6FExk017155; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:39:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 431751451279269450; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:37:30 -0700 Received: from [10.7.251.221] (/10.7.251.221) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:37:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:37:26 +0100 From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Re: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support [PSARC/2010/271 fasttrack timeout 07/23/2010] In-reply-to: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> To: Jerry Gilliam Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Jan Setje-Eilers , Seth Goldberg , Brian.Dowdy@sun.com, Shidokht Yadegari , Dan Mick , Enrico Message-id: <4C401A46.9090306@Oracle.COM> Organization: Oracle Solaris Security MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4C401ABD.007D:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100607 Lightning/1.0b1 OracleBeehiveExtension/1.0.0.0pre3 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Status: RO Content-Length: 65 I see no issues with this so it gets my +1. -- Darren J Moffat From garrett@damore.org Fri Jul 16 08:03:27 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6GF3QHO023408 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o6GF3LXt008281 for <@sunmail2sca.sfbay.sun.com:PSARC-ext@sun.com>; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L5N0080BOHQF200@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sca-ea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.43.21]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L5N00MO2OHPVZ80@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM> for PSARC-ext@sun.com (ORCPT PSARC-ext@sun.com); 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Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:03:21 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:03:04 -0700 From: "Garrett D'Amore" Subject: Re: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support [PSARC/2010/271 fasttrack timeout 07/23/2010] In-reply-to: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> To: Jerry Gilliam Cc: PSARC-ext@sun.com, Enrico , Dan Mick , Seth Goldberg , Shidokht Yadegari , Brian.Dowdy@sun.com Message-id: <1279292585.2510.712.camel@velocity> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=damore.org; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=gcskImdDolZHC8d94KBIc71+uQQUy1qQ/chSxlsel0GqctVZmzo2HIqb2Ej581yiwf5GfPR2n2eFVT7fmlsO1CHWZ7W/9LQOK363pA8Rwb1rsw8gLRQxqxBL3ntTbJRu; X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Identified-User: {2225:box374.bluehost.com:damoreor:damore.org} {sentby:smtp auth 75.82.74.133 authed with garrett+damore.org} X-Antispam: No, score=-0.7/5.0, scanned in 0.213sec at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smf-spamd v1.3.1 - http://smfs.sf.net/ References: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 2793 +1. I'm assuming that this won't affect USB flash media. - Garrett On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 14:53 -0700, Jerry Gilliam wrote: > I'm sponsoring this case on behalf of Jan Setje-Eilers > as a fast-track, with timeout set to 07/23/2010. > > > 1. Introduction > > This case requests the removal and EOF of the installgrub(1M) > support for floppy disks. > > Minor release binding is requested. > > 2. Discussion > > installgrub(1M) is responsible of installing the GRUB bootloader > on a given partition and/or on the master boot record of a storage > device. Along with understanding and supporting the standard > Solaris partition, installgrub is capable of handling floppy disks > which are a special label-free case of pcfs/FAT. > > Since the EOL of the v20z, we do not support any systems equipped > with a floppy disk. Floppy disks are a dying technology, surpassed > by USB flash memory sticks and CD/DVD ROM/WORM and RW, both of > which can be used (with the vast majority of BIOS releases) to > bootstrap a system. > > Removing the support for installing GRUB on floppy disks > simplifies the installgrub code and makes it cleaner for a future > transition to new major versions of the boot loader. > > 3. Interface table > > PSARC 2004/454 states the installgrub(1M) interface as "Evolving" > > Passing /dev/rdiskette to installgrub post remove will produce a > message indicating that floppies are no longer supported. > > 4. References > > PSARC 2004/454 Solaris Boot Architecture > > 5. Manual page differences > > --- installgrub_orig.txt Fri Jun 25 06:04:58 2010 > +++ installgrub_new.txt Fri Jun 25 06:07:39 2010 > @@ -48,8 +48,7 @@ > that is readable and writable. For disk dev- > ices, specify the slice where the GRUB menu > file is located. (For Solaris it is the root > - slice.) For a floppy disk, it is > - /dev/rdiskette. > + slice.) > > > EXAMPLES > @@ -79,20 +78,7 @@ > /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c0d0s0 > > > - Example 2 Installing GRUB on a Floppy > > - > - The following command installs GRUB on a formatted floppy: > - > - > - example# mount -F pcfs /dev/diskette /mnt > - # mkdir -p /mnt/boot/grub > - # cp /boot/grub/* /mnt/boot/grub > - # umount /mnt > - # cd /boot/grub > - # /sbin/installgrub stage1 stage2 /dev/rdiskette > - > - > FILES > /boot/grub Directory where GRUB files reside. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-arc mailing list > opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org From enrico.perla@oracle.com Fri Jul 16 08:46:59 2010 Received: from newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (newsunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.245]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6GFkwEt023736 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM (nwk-avmta-1.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.74]) by newsunmail1brm.central.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/ENSMAIL,v2.4) with ESMTP id o6GFkv2P032339; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) id <0L5N00H03QI9DV00@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com ([192.18.98.36]) by nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0L5N00D2IQI8IC20@nwk-avmta-1.sfbay.Sun.COM>; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o6GFkuqr000594; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:46:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6G6FERU017155; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:46:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abhmt014.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 432849651279295208; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:46:48 -0700 Received: from macdonald.local (/10.7.250.254) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:46:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:47:14 +0200 From: Enrico Perla Subject: Re: EOF and removal of installgrub(1m) floppy support [PSARC/2010/271 fasttrack timeout 07/23/2010] In-reply-to: <1279292585.2510.712.camel@velocity> To: "Garrett D'Amore" Cc: Jerry Gilliam , PSARC-ext@sun.com, Enrico , Dan Mick , Seth Goldberg , Shidokht Yadegari , Brian.Dowdy@sun.com Message-id: <4C407F02.8080904@oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nS55T8ACE79p0Bo7th53pg)" X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4C407EEE.013E:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 References: <4C3F835C.3020904@oracle.com> <1279292585.2510.712.camel@velocity> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) Status: RO Content-Length: 7654 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_nS55T8ACE79p0Bo7th53pg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Garrett D'Amore wrote: > +1. I'm assuming that this won't affect USB flash media. > It does not (actually, the usb live image is a UFS filesystem). Testing the new bits with usbgen/usbcopy has been part of the testing matrix. In general, the floppy support was 'activated' by detecting the target device as: is_floppy = strncmp(device, "/dev/rdsk", strlen("/dev/rdsk")) && strncmp(device, "/dev/dsk", strlen("/dev/dsk")); so I don't think we should miss any scenario with USB media (without limiting to the liveusb case). We are keeping the PCFS support. Thanks, - Enrico > - Garrett > > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 14:53 -0700, Jerry Gilliam wrote: > >> I'm sponsoring this case on behalf of Jan Setje-Eilers >> as a fast-track, with timeout set to 07/23/2010. >> >> >> 1. Introduction >> >> This case requests the removal and EOF of the installgrub(1M) >> support for floppy disks. >> >> Minor release binding is requested. >> >> 2. Discussion >> >> installgrub(1M) is responsible of installing the GRUB bootloader >> on a given partition and/or on the master boot record of a storage >> device. Along with understanding and supporting the standard >> Solaris partition, installgrub is capable of handling floppy disks >> which are a special label-free case of pcfs/FAT. >> >> Since the EOL of the v20z, we do not support any systems equipped >> with a floppy disk. Floppy disks are a dying technology, surpassed >> by USB flash memory sticks and CD/DVD ROM/WORM and RW, both of >> which can be used (with the vast majority of BIOS releases) to >> bootstrap a system. >> >> Removing the support for installing GRUB on floppy disks >> simplifies the installgrub code and makes it cleaner for a future >> transition to new major versions of the boot loader. >> >> 3. Interface table >> >> PSARC 2004/454 states the installgrub(1M) interface as "Evolving" >> >> Passing /dev/rdiskette to installgrub post remove will produce a >> message indicating that floppies are no longer supported. >> >> 4. References >> >> PSARC 2004/454 Solaris Boot Architecture >> >> 5. Manual page differences >> >> --- installgrub_orig.txt Fri Jun 25 06:04:58 2010 >> +++ installgrub_new.txt Fri Jun 25 06:07:39 2010 >> @@ -48,8 +48,7 @@ >> that is readable and writable. For disk dev- >> ices, specify the slice where the GRUB menu >> file is located. (For Solaris it is the root >> - slice.) For a floppy disk, it is >> - /dev/rdiskette. >> + slice.) >> >> >> EXAMPLES >> @@ -79,20 +78,7 @@ >> /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c0d0s0 >> >> >> - Example 2 Installing GRUB on a Floppy >> >> - >> - The following command installs GRUB on a formatted floppy: >> - >> - >> - example# mount -F pcfs /dev/diskette /mnt >> - # mkdir -p /mnt/boot/grub >> - # cp /boot/grub/* /mnt/boot/grub >> - # umount /mnt >> - # cd /boot/grub >> - # /sbin/installgrub stage1 stage2 /dev/rdiskette >> - >> - >> FILES >> /boot/grub Directory where GRUB files reside. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-arc mailing list >> opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org >> > > > --Boundary_(ID_nS55T8ACE79p0Bo7th53pg) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Garrett D'Amore wrote: 
+1.  I'm assuming that this won't affect USB flash media.
It does not (actually, the usb live image is a UFS filesystem).
Testing the new bits with usbgen/usbcopy has been part of the testing matrix.

In general, the floppy support was 'activated' by detecting the target device as:

is_floppy = strncmp(device, "/dev/rdsk", strlen("/dev/rdsk")) &&
            strncmp(device, "/dev/dsk", strlen("/dev/dsk"));

so I don't think we should miss any scenario with USB media (without limiting to the liveusb case).
We are keeping the PCFS support.

Thanks,


              -   Enrico

	- Garrett

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 14:53 -0700, Jerry Gilliam wrote:
  
I'm sponsoring this case on behalf of Jan Setje-Eilers
as a fast-track, with timeout set to 07/23/2010.


1.  Introduction

     This case requests the removal and EOF of the installgrub(1M)
     support for floppy disks.

     Minor release binding is requested.

2.  Discussion

     installgrub(1M) is responsible of installing the GRUB bootloader
     on a given partition and/or on the master boot record of a storage
     device. Along with understanding and supporting the standard
     Solaris partition, installgrub is capable of handling floppy disks
     which are a special label-free case of pcfs/FAT.

     Since the EOL of the v20z, we do not support any systems equipped
     with a floppy disk. Floppy disks are a dying technology, surpassed
     by USB flash memory sticks and CD/DVD ROM/WORM and RW, both of
     which can be used (with the vast majority of BIOS releases) to
     bootstrap a system.

     Removing the support for installing GRUB on floppy disks
     simplifies the installgrub code and makes it cleaner for a future
     transition to new major versions of the boot loader.

3.  Interface table

     PSARC 2004/454 states the installgrub(1M) interface as "Evolving"

     Passing /dev/rdiskette to installgrub post remove will produce a
     message indicating that floppies are no longer supported.

4.  References

	PSARC 2004/454 Solaris Boot Architecture

5.  Manual page differences

--- installgrub_orig.txt        Fri Jun 25 06:04:58 2010
+++ installgrub_new.txt Fri Jun 25 06:07:39 2010
@@ -48,8 +48,7 @@
                     that is readable and writable. For  disk  dev-
                     ices,  specify  the  slice where the GRUB menu
                     file is located. (For Solaris it is  the  root
-                   slice.)    For    a   floppy   disk,   it   is
-                   /dev/rdiskette.
+                   slice.)


  EXAMPLES
@@ -79,20 +78,7 @@
                  /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c0d0s0


-     Example 2 Installing GRUB on a Floppy

-
-     The following command installs GRUB on a formatted floppy:
-
-
-       example# mount -F pcfs /dev/diskette /mnt
-       # mkdir -p /mnt/boot/grub
-       # cp /boot/grub/* /mnt/boot/grub
-       # umount /mnt
-       # cd /boot/grub
-       # /sbin/installgrub stage1 stage2 /dev/rdiskette
-
-
  FILES
       /boot/grub    Directory where GRUB files reside.





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